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General and Gaming => Classic Video Games => Topic started by: oldgamerz on August 24, 2019, 04:22:42 pm
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I want real, but sometimes :(
I don't want to offend anyone with this but I'd thought I'd ask. Are you completely sure that every single game you own is not a reproduction or a bootleg? I mean some of us just buy in bulk.
This is a vary vary heated subject for a ton of collectors, fake games are all over the place, and the real retro ones that were manufactured. Some them are old, and were poorly cared for. and a lot of them might not work
Some of the original cartridges have dead batteries in them, and no longer save from what I read. Like Pokemon Gameboy games. Do you open up the game as soon as you get them, and judge them from the inside out? or do you just see if the game works first?
To me, as long as I can actually play the game, and lets say it was cheap. Real or not, I would keep it, as long as if it was not dangerous.
I want real games, but if it works and plays like the original was supposed to, and you got it cheap, and didn't pay a ton of money for it. Would you still have it in your collection?
I don't care what the game companies think, the modern gaming industry, are playing unfair today in my opinion
I am prepared to be creamed, but I had to say something because, I know someone will understand.
I could just spend money on a modern system. But they are a rip off in my opinion mainly because of the requirement to download the game, before playing 50 gigs of data it sucks
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A majority of my games are legit originals.
I own a small handful of reproductions on purpose.
I know they are repros I’m not ashamed of it. I just wanted to play the games on real hardware.
Shantae for GBC
Super Back to the Future II
Star Fox 2
Mega Man Wiley Wars
Repros. Glad I own them.
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The only bootlegs I have were accidental; a couple of Game Boy Advance carts. I got a genuine replacement for one of them, but not the other, at least not yet.
Otherwise, yes, I am very confident that the rest of my collection contains no bootlegs or repros (not counting Majesco reprints of course).
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The only bootleg of a US-released game I have is Castlevania Double Pack. At least it saves correctly.
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I might be a little maticulous. But i work in a Play N' Trade and usually when i buy a couple games i verify they're in working order and original before stocking them into my collection. So im pretty sure they're all original.
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Of all my games I only have 1 fake it's a gba game called shinning souls so i had to buy a legit copy.
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Yes. The only reproductions I own are on purpose.
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For me I have one cartridge with 450 games built in on it, so I don't have all originals either. It's not one of those illegal SD cartridges though, but I do have ROMS for the Atari portable device I got from Atari Age Forums
Atari 2600 games that I don't have included in my collection
I tried to get buy more games for my Atari portable device from ATGames website but they had none for sale so I got them from Atari Age, if it were illegal to download those Atari2600 ROM's I am un aware because their is an SD slot built into the device I got. and plus Atari Age has permission to give out Atari2600 ROMs I heard but it could be wrong
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Yep, except a handful of repros I know are repros.
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I am 99.9% sure all of my games are originals. I can't be 100% sure, because it's not like I've sat down & opened each and every game I own to check the chipset- but I don't think I've got any fakes. I'm generally pretty meticulous about where I buy my games, and most of my cartridge games were purchased before the retro bubble & online shopping really hit- therefore, before fakes really flooded in.
I think, of everything I own, the one I'm most concerned about being 'fake' is my CIB copy of Starfox 64. That's largely becuase it's in pristine condition, but came from a shop not known for pristine condition... and that doesn't screen for fakes. I try to compare to online from time to time, but I can't find anything wrong with it. The print's clean, there's no errors I can find, it's got the incidental paperwork like a Nintendo power mini flyer- I've even opened the cart up & checked it, it looks fine. Until I get a chance to look over a legit box in real life, or put mine in the hands of a reputable source for confirmation, I'll probably continue to be suspicious of it. It wasn't expensive though, so as long as the cart itself is real I don't think I'd mind much finding out the box is repro.
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I'd say about 98% of the games i own are authentic, but as somebody mentioned above i do own a couple of knock-offs/repro carts intentionally. The ones i have that i can remember off the top of my head are 2 summon night gba carts, and ocarina of time master quest on the n64. ;D
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The only bootleg of a US-released game I have is Castlevania Double Pack.
Exact same one I have.
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As far as I know, they’re all legit.
I have a couple bootleg arcade PCB’s, but they aren’t counted here.
The only time I unknowingly purchased a fake, was on the PS2. Bought a new copy of Vice City from a swap meet. It had the shrink wrap, hang tab and security sticker. After I opened it, I noticed the back cover art had a razor cut through it (just the art, not the plastic). The game could only be played on modded systems. Man they did a good job on that one...
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I'm 99% sure. I can always spot a fake, the print quality is just never as good. I own a bootleg Earthbound but that was my choice.
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Well, here in Japan, I have the impression that counterfeits are so rare that they tend to be even more expensive than the real deal. I very often find unlicensed PC-Engine or Famicon games being sold close to the equivalent to hundreds of American dollars, so the only fakes I own (as far as I know) I bought very consciously.
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Aside from a few burned copies of CD-I games that I made myself, yeah, everything I own is legit. I’ve opened every cartridge that can be opened without damaging it to clean them all.
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Unless it’s s really good fake, I don’t have any fakes.
I say that, but I do have a Wily Wars. Since that wasn’t released here, I’m calling it a repro.
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I'm not positive all my carts are legit, but most of my games are commons and not worth somebody making repros.
I have spotted a few low-quality imitations with a quick visual inspection and have passed, but I might have a few knock-offs in the collection somewhere and don't know it.
If I'm making a high-dollar purchase I tend to ask to crack it open or gets pics of the board.
Handhelds are bit more tricky, but that's not my focus for collecting so don't tend to spend much money on them. I remember a few years ago we had some imitation pokemon games going around.
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This next post ties to one of the reasons why I created this thread
Bootlegs as far as I heard have been around since at least the early 1990's and maybe sooner. that is why I heard Nintendo made their
"official seal of quality" on all Nintendo licensed cartridges in the United States. starting with the Nintendo Entertainment System. and ending when the came out GameCube, I think. Also far the circuit board is concerned, people say something about the Black battery goop. On the insides of NES or SNES? I can't remember correctly. that it is a common fake cartridge, But that may or may not be the case.
I believe sometimes shops might only replace the battery. But I never heard of anyone ever doing that.
But like some already said on here a lot of bootlegs. Have a vary close resemblance. To the real thing. Including games with a missing or distorted Nintendo Official Seal Of Quality. Found on some Nintendo cartridge games.
And sometimes the chips are even identical to the real thing. Meaning, you may need to do extensive research on every cartridge you own, (it can be a lot of work to do that even with the internet) and sometimes only an expert sometimes can tell you if the inside of the cartridge is fake or not.
Also CD/DVD/Bluray fakes I think, have a paper sticker label covering the whole disc itself so if you have a bootleg disc game it may have a paper label on it. If it is a fake.
I have a copy of Legend Of Zelda for the NES and the game still saves, but I never opened it up so I don't know if that is a fake or not because the cartridge outside is shiny golden and the label is badly torn
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Bootleg isn't really the right word for the games that necessitate the Nintendo Seal of Approval. They were simply unlicensed. They were very often made by the OEM company, and are not copies of any other existing game. A bootleg is generally a copy of a licensed game. The seal is literally just a label. There are tons of bootleg games that say they have the "Seal of Approval", because they are copy of games that do have the seal.
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Bootleg isn't really the right word for the games that necessitate the Nintendo Seal of Approval. They were simply unlicensed. They were very often made by the OEM company, and are not copies of any other existing game. A bootleg is generally a copy of a licensed game. The seal is literally just a label. There are tons of bootleg games that say they have the "Seal of Approval", because they are copy of games that do have the seal.
all true. but I have seen fakes too being sold as the real things that don't have the seal at all, or have a fake distorted seal. This GameBoy Advance game I saw once before comes into my mind. Sometimes bootlegs can copy the seal like you just said.
bottom line is even if it's looks like a real copy with the correct seal, it still could be a fake!
but it's worth noting the seal of quality because according to my own research. some fake cartridge games don't have the seal and are still being passed off as the original
looking up the correct cartridge computer chips for every single game we pick up is still hit and miss, internet does tell lies sometimes. after all even the chip can be identical to the real thing. I don't matter to me as long as the game works, I don't think checking every single game is worth the effort. in my opinion
I seen bootleg Super Nintendo cartridges with no real screws in them on the internet too so
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Bootleg isn't really the right word for the games that necessitate the Nintendo Seal of Approval. They were simply unlicensed. They were very often made by the OEM company, and are not copies of any other existing game. A bootleg is generally a copy of a licensed game. The seal is literally just a label. There are tons of bootleg games that say they have the "Seal of Approval", because they are copy of games that do have the seal.
all true. but I have seen fakes too being sold as the real things that don't have the seal at all, or have a fake distorted seal. This GameBoy Advance game I saw once before comes into my mind. Sometimes bootlegs can copy the seal like you just said.
bottom line is even if it's looks like a real copy with the correct seal, it still could be a fake!
but it's worth noting the seal of quality because according to my own research. some fake cartridge games don't have the seal and are still being passed off as the original
looking up the correct cartridge computer chips for every single game we pick up is still hit and miss, internet does tell lies sometimes. after all even the chip can be identical to the real thing. I don't matter to me as long as the game works, I don't think checking every single game is worth the effort. in my opinion
I seen bootleg Super Nintendo cartridges with no real screws in them on the internet too so
bootlegs are from them olden days and are always poor quality
anyone in this hobby could spot those instantly at least i hope so ::)
bootlegs never copy the real thing to fool anybody
very good reproductions are the exception. but those are modern and only a slight issue for cart only for cib it is even more rare and even than they fail with the box and especially the manual
also your talking about the picture missing stuff or it being distorted.It's kinda useless to discuss such details since every bootleg is different not to mention that good repro's should be identical so those tips are not of any issue for the better repro's out there.
The best pokemon repro carts that I have seen could fool people from a distance on pictures. but when holding them they where missing the correct gloss and most importantly the number imprinting on the lable. usually it is even more easy to spot kinda hard to fool anyone at least people who collected for a decent time i'd say.
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So far, everything I own is legit. I’ve contemplated getting some repros, specifically for unreleased games, like Undercover Cops for example, but I never get around to getting any.