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Title: Do games ever feel worth $60?
Post by: seether on January 17, 2020, 04:23:40 pm
Almost never.
Title: Re: Do games ever feel worth $60?
Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 17, 2020, 04:36:55 pm
Most of the time.  It's rare that I find a game that isn't worth the 60 bucks these days.  The only times I do, is usually if the game is under like 15 to 20 hours and has no notable replay value afterwards.
Title: Re: Do games ever feel worth $60?
Post by: seether on January 17, 2020, 05:00:24 pm
Most of the time.  It's rare that I find a game that isn't worth the 60 bucks these days.  The only times I do, is usually if the game is under like 15 to 20 hours and has no notable replay value afterwards.
So every single player game for the last 30 years.
Title: Re: Do games ever feel worth $60?
Post by: oldgamerz on January 17, 2020, 05:00:51 pm
If I had a massive income it would not matter, but I don't. so It would depend on how bad I would want and and it would have to be something I could keep and play for as long as it would naturally last
Title: Re: Do games ever feel worth $60?
Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 17, 2020, 05:11:31 pm
Most of the time.  It's rare that I find a game that isn't worth the 60 bucks these days.  The only times I do, is usually if the game is under like 15 to 20 hours and has no notable replay value afterwards.
So every single player game for the last 30 years.

Have you played any games in recent years? Because it doesn't sound like you have.  Just in this past generation there's God of War, Bloodborne, Dark Souls 3, Spider-Man, Fallout 4, Super Mario Odyssey, Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, Xenoblade Chronicles 2, Monster Hunter World, and that's just some of the longer games, not counting shorter games with good replay value like the recent Resident Evil games or something like Doom.
Title: Re: Do games ever feel worth $60?
Post by: Cartagia on January 17, 2020, 06:31:16 pm
Posts you have made in the past similar to this one:

https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,9127.msg154352.html#msg154352
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,9176.msg155081.html#msg155081
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,9991.msg164099.html#msg164099 <- this one is the exact same topic

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Title: Re: Do games ever feel worth $60?
Post by: Warmsignal on January 17, 2020, 08:18:40 pm
Rarely ever. Which is why I’m happy that the majority of new retail releases aren’t starting at $60. In 2010, probably 90% of new releases were $60. Now it’s only like 40% that are. Lots of games now are retailing at 50, 40, and 30.... sometimes less. Then if you wait 6 months, or less you’ll see the DLC packages added into a complete edition, essentially for free.

For me 60 is just too steep for an industry that’s long been out of intriguing new ideas.
Title: Re: Do games ever feel worth $60?
Post by: hoshichiri on January 17, 2020, 09:59:59 pm
The kinda games I like are rarely $60. Usually $30-40.

Technically I spent $90 for Monster Hunter World ($30 for base game, $60 for Iceborne). It was DAMN worth it. Abundant content, enjoyable multiplayer- I got good and hooked on that.
Title: Re: Do games ever feel worth $60?
Post by: bikingjahuty on January 17, 2020, 11:17:55 pm
Ever, yes. Most of the time, no.


I rarely buy games at launch for full price just because I'm not sure the game will be worth $60 to me. It's all subjective though; it isn't about the game's length or how much content is crammed into it. It's about how much you enjoy it and how much owning it means to you. I have shmups that you can beat in half an hour that I paid hundreds of dollars for, but most of them I absolutely love. The ones I didn't love, at least in relation to what I paid, I sold off. likewise, I've found games for way under what they're typically worth, only to find that I still felt ripped off because of how unenjoyable the game was to me. Again, it's all relative and subjective.
Title: Re: Do games ever feel worth $60?
Post by: emporerdragon on January 17, 2020, 11:51:36 pm
If I can get 4-5 or more hours of entertainment out of it, then yes, $60 is worth it.
Title: Re: Do games ever feel worth $60?
Post by: cirdan77 on January 18, 2020, 04:02:54 am
Almost no game is worth $60... not unless it is some really rare print or an older difficult to acquire import.

I think people are morons if they actually pay $60 for a new game since (just about) every damn game ever made ends up eventually dropping to $20 or so if you simply wait awhile.

At any given time, >>95% of the greatest games ever made were made over a year ago. So what's with the obsession with whatever is brand new??

Have a brain and just wait a bit. Your pocket book will reward you. You'll be able to own 2 to 3 times more games.
And perhaps you might even have some money left over to get out of your parents basement and live on your own.
Title: Re: Do games ever feel worth $60?
Post by: kamikazekeeg on January 18, 2020, 05:18:46 am
Almost no game is worth $60... not unless it is some really rare print or an older difficult to acquire import.

I think people are morons if they actually pay $60 for a new game since (just about) every damn game ever made ends up eventually dropping to $20 or so if you simply wait awhile.

At any given time, >>95% of the greatest games ever made were made over a year ago. So what's with the obsession with whatever is brand new??

Have a brain and just wait a bit. Your pocket book will reward you. You'll be able to own 2 to 3 times more games.
And perhaps you might even have some money left over to get out of your parents basement and live on your own.

There's nothing wrong with people enjoying something when it's new.  Waiting a year or longer can mean a game's story and surprises could be spoiled.  In multiplayer situations, jumping into a game that late means you could be way behind the curve of most other players.  Maybe you just don't want to miss out on playing a game alongside friends and sharing in the experiences you had.  Or folks have been waiting for years for the game to come out and just don't want to wait longer for a sale.  Plenty of games are absolutely worth the initial asking price with the many hours of gameplay they offer.
Title: Re: Do games ever feel worth $60?
Post by: sworddude on January 18, 2020, 05:52:25 am
it's a hell lot cheaper than other activities so I could see why people just go ahead and spend 60$.

even for 20 hours of fun that's 3$ an hour going to a cinema nice dinner costs way more than that let alone games with more playtime. other activities could end up being way more pricy aswell

Also you got to remember withouth those people that spend 60$ on a game no new games are being made. the people that buy it way later on barely help for sales. so buying late or ealry both have their postives and cons.

furthermore we got dlc and micro transactions in games because the basegame price of 60 isnt higher for bigger titles. so not to sure if that's a great thing.
Title: Re: Do games ever feel worth $60?
Post by: hoshichiri on January 18, 2020, 08:02:17 am
There's nothing wrong with people enjoying something when it's new.  Waiting a year or longer can mean a game's story and surprises could be spoiled.  In multiplayer situations, jumping into a game that late means you could be way behind the curve of most other players.  Maybe you just don't want to miss out on playing a game alongside friends and sharing in the experiences you had.  Or folks have been waiting for years for the game to come out and just don't want to wait longer for a sale.  Plenty of games are absolutely worth the initial asking price with the many hours of gameplay they offer.

Yep- for me, Final Fantasy 13 is a great example of this. There aren't going to be a lot of people saying it was good enough to warrant that $60 price, but I don't regret buying it. I was going to a con a couple weeks after it came out, and I wanted to be up to speed on the new big game for once. No regrets from that perspective... although it did take me months to actually finish the game after the con becuase I wasn't that into it!
Title: Re: Do games ever feel worth $60?
Post by: telly on January 18, 2020, 08:22:30 am
Most of the time.  It's rare that I find a game that isn't worth the 60 bucks these days.  The only times I do, is usually if the game is under like 15 to 20 hours and has no notable replay value afterwards.
So every single player game for the last 30 years.

Lol okay every game since 1990 we'll roll with that. Gotta love those long content filled NES games.

But we go to the movie theatre and it's like 10 bucks for like a 2 hour flick. Or we get a fancy dinner and it's like 50.
Title: Re: Do games ever feel worth $60?
Post by: pzeke on January 18, 2020, 10:41:37 am
I've only bought a few games at launch, and I can honestly tell you they were worth the asking price. For instance, I bought Pokémon Diamond and Pearl on their day of release, and while Pearl was relegated to the side, I played the ever-loving snot out of Diamond—I just couldn't bring myself to stop playing. Another good example is Drakengard, which I bought during its week of release for about $50 I believe, and I can tell you once more that it was well worth the price, as I played the hell out of it. One of my all-time favorites, in fact. Final Fantasy XII is another good example, although I spent the majority of my time playing power-leveling and never actually finished the game.

With that said, I'm not one to buy games at launch, to tell the truth, so it has to be something that I'm genuinely interested/invested in, and even then I will stop and think twice. Nowadays I feel most games aren't worth the asking price solely due to how shady the industry has become what with day one patches, locking content behind a paywall, and all that other nonsense. Granted, most games that recur to these type of practices usually don't appeal to me, especially in regards to online multiplayer, but it's still a factor regardless.

As I've stated before, I wait until the hype dwindles, so I just wait for prices to go down and either get them on sale or used. There's a good chance I'm not going to play the game right away, so why waste $60 to begin with.

Almost no game is worth $60... not unless it is some really rare print or an older difficult to acquire import.

I think people are morons if they actually pay $60 for a new game since (just about) every damn game ever made ends up eventually dropping to $20 or so if you simply wait awhile.

At any given time, >>95% of the greatest games ever made were made over a year ago. So what's with the obsession with whatever is brand new??

Have a brain and just wait a bit. Your pocket book will reward you. You'll be able to own 2 to 3 times more games.
And perhaps you might even have some money left over to get out of your parents basement and live on your own.

Tone aside, I agree with you. Most people that tend to buy games as soon as they get released do so for the instant gratification and experience, though, somewhat following what kamikazekeeg said. Usually these kind of people can't be dissuaded to do the opposite, so that's basically the demographic the industry is shooting for. These often are also the type of people that tend to buy into hype, as well as buy consoles and games with a "short-term" mentality, meaning once a new generation console is released they jump into that bandwagon and abandon the last. So, basically as sworddude stated, the industry needs these type of customers to keep afloat.
Title: Re: Do games ever feel worth $60?
Post by: dreama1 on January 18, 2020, 12:14:55 pm
Waste of money in most situations, saying it's going to be a few dollars in a few weeks probably.

Unless you're insanely passionate about the game that is. If you're going to be hammering it for a few 100 hours or so on the spot rather than let it collect dust until you finally play it and its like 1 dollar now pretty much.
Title: Re: Do games ever feel worth $60?
Post by: dreama1 on January 18, 2020, 04:47:23 pm
I'll never forget the people who bought fallout 76 including my friend limited edition for like 100 dollars or so for it to be a few dollars in a few weeks or so.

That's another thing. You don't know if you're getting a shit product or not.
Title: Re: Do games ever feel worth $60?
Post by: droaa on January 18, 2020, 06:29:26 pm
Almost no game is worth $60... not unless it is some really rare print or an older difficult to acquire import.

I think people are morons if they actually pay $60 for a new game since (just about) every damn game ever made ends up eventually dropping to $20 or so if you simply wait awhile.

At any given time, >>95% of the greatest games ever made were made over a year ago. So what's with the obsession with whatever is brand new??

Have a brain and just wait a bit. Your pocket book will reward you. You'll be able to own 2 to 3 times more games.
And perhaps you might even have some money left over to get out of your parents basement and live on your own.

There are people who like to buy games at full price to have it day 1 and that is fine. Who are we to deny them that? But to essentially call those who do this morons and insinuate that because they do so that they arent stable enough that they live in their parents basement is rather immature. You're downplaying a certain contingent of people because you dont agree with it which is fine but the way you went about it is not in the best light.
Title: Re: Do games ever feel worth $60?
Post by: ysssk on January 20, 2020, 11:52:18 am
Yes, Sometimes. The Example that springs to mind for me is Skyrim.
I played that game for so long, and was so into it that i kept wishing there was even more DLC from Bethesda.
I bought ALL the offical DLC, and quite a few Mods too.
I got more enjoyment from that game than the next 5 other favorite titles for PS3.

Liked it So much, i got the PC version too, just so i could add mods and extend my play even more.
Title: Re: Do games ever feel worth $60?
Post by: Warmsignal on January 20, 2020, 12:33:00 pm
I kid you guys not, every single game I've ever been hyped enough to buy at launch for $60, it plummets to the bargain bin with a surplus of unsold new copies 3-4 months after being considered a "bomb". Every single time it happens. Really gets irritating. The only way to not feel like you've jumped the gun is to buy a Nintendo first party game, because they don't loose value until Nintendo re-brands them a best seller. The other games I choose to pick up at full price, die a swift fiery retail death. I'm terrible at picking winners.

On the flip side, games I hold off on because I have no faith they'll survive at retail, remain... and remain, and never price drop even when they aren't very successful.
Title: Re: Do games ever feel worth $60?
Post by: hoshichiri on January 21, 2020, 10:12:22 pm
I kid you guys not, every single game I've ever been hyped enough to buy at launch for $60, it plummets to the bargain bin with a surplus of unsold new copies 3-4 months after being considered a "bomb". Every single time it happens. Really gets irritating. The only way to not feel like you've jumped the gun is to buy a Nintendo first party game, because they don't loose value until Nintendo re-brands them a best seller. The other games I choose to pick up at full price, die a swift fiery retail death. I'm terrible at picking winners.

On the flip side, games I hold off on because I have no faith they'll survive at retail, remain... and remain, and never price drop even when they aren't very successful.

In a way, that's a good thing- you never have to worry about getting the best deal. Just never buy anything at launch & you'll be good!
Title: Re: Do games ever feel worth $60?
Post by: turf on January 22, 2020, 05:43:51 pm
Shoot yeah!  There are tons of games that I feel like I got my $60 of fun out of them. There’s several that I would say I got well over $100 of enjoyment out of.

We’re spoiled at the $60 price point. I’d venture to say $60 games is why there’s so much DLC nowadays.

Title: Re: Do games ever feel worth $60?
Post by: maximo310 on January 22, 2020, 05:44:46 pm
Yes.
Title: Re: Do games ever feel worth $60?
Post by: kashell on January 23, 2020, 09:10:51 am
Yessum.