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General and Gaming => Classic Video Games => Topic started by: vivigamer on October 22, 2020, 02:14:53 am
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As part of the big new update, Sony is removing the ability to purchase PS3, PSP and PS Vita games from the online PlayStation Store. PS4 Apps, Themes and Avatars will also be removed the web and mobile PlayStation Stores.
https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/gaming/1350044/PlayStation-Store-update-PS4-PS3-Vita-wishlists-Avatars-themes-games
I'm pretty sure it's just noting the Online Website & not the PS Store one consoles - Even so, it might be a good time to check out them DLC/Updates you have & make a PS3 back up to an External HDD.
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According to the e-mail I got, you can still make purchases directly from the console.
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Hopefully so, but have you tried accessing the PS3 store? Often when i try download something it crashes. If anything I find it easier to go into my account settings and Download history to Re-Download anything.
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I just got the PS Now subscription, which has many of the PS3 titles playable on the PS4. While there are games that can be downloaded to your PS4, sadly, there are none from the PS3 (like Double Dragon Neon), that can be downloaded. Those can only be played via streaming. :(
I'm late to the current console gaming market. I've only had a PS4 since Christmas of 2019. I went from having a PS2 to an Xbox 360 & then reverted back to the PS2. I was so bound & determined to not buy a PS4 or Xbox One, but my wife got it for me unexpectedly. I resisted hooking it up & playing for a solid three days, but then gave in.
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The new PlayStation Store website is so laughably awful. Sony seems to be purposely trying to get people to spend less money buying games.
Add-ons are no longer showed on a game's product page. There's also no trailers or screenshots or file size.
You cannot sort anything in any way. You can't sort low to high, high to low, alphabetical, nothing. It's just shown to you in a random order.
You can no longer see new add-ons. The add-ons page just shows the most popular games. Every week I would load up the new this week section and claim all the free add-ons and other content but now I can't do that at all.
I could go on but wow. I wanted a new look for the store because it looked so old but this is horrible in every way.
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Hopefully this will lead to some pretty decent sales. I have a ton of old PSN Plus games for PS3, and Vita still queued up to play. I can vouch that it still works for the Vita, but my PS3 is a glorified Bluray/Netflix player in my son's room for the moment.
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Whenever things like this occur I always wonder what games will be impacted by the simple fact that one day, day one patches will not be available any longer. What physically owned games will impacted by game breaking bugs that cannot be patched out? It saddens me because for a while I thought I would always be safe with physical copies.
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Whenever things like this occur I always wonder what games will be impacted by the simple fact that one day, day one patches will not be available any longer. What physically owned games will impacted by game breaking bugs that cannot be patched out? It saddens me because for a while I thought I would always be safe with physical copies.
I was hoping the that the patch servers would never close. I am just hoping someone will open up another patch server for every PlayStation 3 game out there, if the PS3 patch server closes. since you cannot just back up ALL, of the patch data onto another PS3.
the PS3 backup utility says you can't backup all the patch data. Some games might need to be hacked in order to use some of the game patches.
Here is more details below in this topic.
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10381.msg170242.html#msg170242
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I'm late to the current console gaming market. I've only had a PS4 since Christmas of 2019.
I'm in the same boat; I got mine on Black Friday, mainly because the price was right and the Final Fantasy VII Remake was on the horizon. Even after all that, I hemmed and hawed before hooking it up, which was about two weeks after the release of FFVII Remake, and it has literally been the only game I've played so far; I aimed to platinum it, but procrastination won.
As for the topic at hand, I haven't logged in in a while, so I don't know how things are currently within the store, but I'd like to think any possible hiccups are due to the updates they're pushing, so hopefully everything will go back to normal soon after.
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Thank God for PS3Hen
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The time is upon us ladies and gentlemen! The PlayStaton 3, PSP & Vita Stores are all closing beyond this summer!
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2021-03-22-sonys-ps3-psp-and-vita-digital-stores-reportedly-closing-for-good-this-summer
So, NOW is the time to get your affairs in order, then go back to your PS3's and load up the horrible PS Store and get anything and EVERYTHING YOU NEED! Yes... YES even the ridiculous Epilogue for the Prince of Persia Reboot (Or what for Ubisoft to never put it on sale on the Xbox 360 version...)
Or is it already to late?!
https://www.psu.com/news/ps3-psp-and-ps-vita-will-stop-accepting-payments-in-europe-through-card-and-paypal-from-january-1-2021/
I don't know if Updates will still be active or not, but it would be very wise to install all the games your care for most and update them, then make a backup of your PS3 HDD onto an external HDD to future proof these experience as much as possible.
I just made a video with some tips on how to download and back-up your PS3 experience:
https://youtu.be/j3Yyapdg4kE
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I'm more worried wheter or not you will still be able to download patches or are those going to be gone aswell?
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(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/welp.gif)
Guess I have to unearth the PS3/PSP/Vita games from the basement, figure out which ones I want to be updated, and see if there's any DLC I do want to pay for.
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This in unfounded information that originated from a website nobody ever heard about before. It's causing mass panic on several sites over the last 24 hours.... posting this unverified information is reckless and stupid.
Why would updates be effected by the store anyway?
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This in unfounded information that originated from a website nobody ever heard about before. It's causing mass panic on several sites over the last 24 hours.... posting this unverified information is reckless and stupid.
Why would updates be effected by the store anyway?
Well years ago SONY closed down the PS3 Music CD information Server and SONY's Excuse was? that someone was caught cheating on their spouse.
technically SONY has the right to do this to the patch servers and store as well, I hope the patches will stay active but only time will tell.
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This in unfounded information that originated from a website nobody ever heard about before. It's causing mass panic on several sites over the last 24 hours.... posting this unverified information is reckless and stupid.
Why would updates be effected by the store anyway?
Well years ago SONY closed down the PS3 Music CD information Server and SONY's Excuse was? that someone was caught cheating on their spouse.
technically SONY has the right to do this to the patch servers and store as well, I hope the patches will stay active but only time will tell.
I'm aware they can do it if they want, I'm just saying that this is an unfounded rumor from one article posted on a website that nobody has ever heard of.
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Hi,
I have found a little way to by-pass this with certain games DLC. You can't pay with your Credit/Debit Card but you can purchase PSN vouchers online and apply them still. I'm not sure if this will be available after the PS Store goes down fully so you might want to take advantage of this while you can. I made a video toot' to show how you can do this step-by-step in-case anyone's interested :)
https://youtu.be/8hjkhofMBBI
PSN Voucher Links:
https://www.shopto.net/en/sony-wallet-topup/
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Hi,
I have found a little way to by-pass this with certain games DLC. You can't pay with your Credit/Debit Card but you can purchase PSN vouchers online and apply them still. I'm not sure if this will be available after the PS Store goes down fully so you might want to take advantage of this while you can. I made a video toot' to show how you can do this step-by-step in-case anyone's interested :)
https://youtu.be/8hjkhofMBBI
PSN Voucher Links:
https://www.shopto.net/en/sony-wallet-topup/
The PS3 store still works perfectly fine. In game access to the store still requires the store...so if that goes down, the in game store wont work (Try it for games with removed DLC. it doesn't work)
BTW still no evidence that anything is happening with the store, but anything for more clicks I guess......
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Allot of people seem to make them last minute buys in bulk from what I've noticed with dlc and some exclusive download only games
Quite a gold mine move of sony.
Just imagine them suddenly changing their mind and keeping them open ::)
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Quite a gold mine move of sony.
Just imagine them suddenly changing their mind and keeping them open ::)
They've never stated that any of this is going to happen. This all came from an unverified, non-credible source.
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Well whether true or not, only time can tell.
Good news is since the PlayStation 3 has an other online internet capability. the patches could at least (I hope) could come from a third party online fan made source in the future.
You can even run an online server with a PlayStation 3 console, if you know how. you can also create your own online game server online and connect other PS3's to it, although I never tried or never knew how to do this. But A long time ago I spoke to a SONY customer support member and he said that this is possible but he didn't recommend this however.
The PS3 has a lot of hidden abilities that could make it possible to get the patches downloaded directly to the PS3 off any online source.
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The PS3 store still works perfectly fine. In game access to the store still requires the store...so if that goes down, the in game store wont work (Try it for games with removed DLC. it doesn't work)
BTW still no evidence that anything is happening with the store, but anything for more clicks I guess......
Apparently in the USA it does but here in the UK you can't purchase anything! The PS Store boots up for navigation but there is no option for purchasing items anymore. Which is why the loophole on the few games that have the In-Game stores is pretty important for people wanting to get their last chance on DLC items. I bought some of the XIII-2 Bosses and forgotten Dead Space 2 had a small extra single player DLC called Severed.
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Quite a gold mine move of sony.
Just imagine them suddenly changing their mind and keeping them open ::)
They've never stated that any of this is going to happen. This all came from an unverified, non-credible source.
What if they leaked it on purpose. especially when it's from a non-credible source if they keep it open anyway, they won't even dirty their hands that way because they never officially stated it.
Eitherway allot of people are buying stuff in bulk atm not just collectors. Pretty interesting I'd say.
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Seems it's Official Chaps and Chapessess, this email was receive in the account which my PSN is tied to:
Hi PlayStation Gamer,
We are closing PlayStation™Store on PlayStation®3 on 2 July 2021 and on PlayStation®Vita devices on 27 August 2021. Additionally, the remaining purchase functionality for PSP™ (PlayStation®Portable) will also retire on 2 July 2021. After thoughtful consideration, we decided to make these changes in an effort to focus our resources for PlayStation Store on PlayStation®4 and PlayStation®5, which will enable us to enhance the customer experience even further. We thank you for your support on these platforms throughout the years.
What does this mean for you?
You will no longer be able to purchase PS3, PS Vita and PSP digital content, including games and video content.
You will also no longer be able to make in-game purchases through games on PS3, PS Vita and PSP.
While the PSP storefront was previously closed in 2016, the remaining PSP purchase functionality (e.g. in-game purchases) will now be fully retired.
What about content you already own?
• You will still be able to download your owned PS3, PS Vita, and PSP content, including games and video content.
• You can download your owned content onto your PS3, PS Vita, or PSP by accessing the Download List on the respective device.
• If you have purchased a PS3/PS Vita cross-buy bundle and have only downloaded either the PS3 or PS Vita version, you will need to download the other version prior to the closure of PlayStation™Store on the relevant device.
• Video content that you own can be streamed on PS3, PS4 or PS5 through the My Videos app, or on mobile devices through the PlayStation™Video app.
• You will still be able to re-download and play game titles you have claimed through PlayStation®Plus as long as you remain a member of the service.
What about vouchers, wallet funds, and cross-buy content?
• You will still be able to redeem game and PlayStation®Plus vouchers on PS3, PS Vita, and PSP devices once PlayStation™Store and purchase functionality for these devices close.
• You will no longer be able to redeem PSN wallet fund vouchers (e.g. gift cards) on PS3, PS Vita, and PSP devices once PlayStation™Store and purchase functionality for these devices close.
• Your PSN wallet funds will remain in your PSN account, but you will only be able to use your wallet funds to purchase PS4 and PS5 products on PlayStation™Store on the web, PlayStation®App, or on PS4 and PS5 consoles.
• You will still be able to purchase cross-buy content through PlayStation™Store on the web, PlayStation®App, or on PS4 and PS5 consoles and access both the PS4 version and the PS3/PS Vita/PSP versions.
Where can you find out more?
Read our FAQ for more information: https://www.playstation.com/support/important-notice/
PS Vita messaging service
As of 28 June 2021*, users on PlayStation Vita will no longer be able to use the messaging service. Although messaging on PS Vita is going away, your messages will still be available to you by using the messaging service on PS5 consoles, PS4 consoles, and via mobile on PS App.
*Termination will start on 28 June 2021, actual date of the termination may differ by region.
Nothing speaking about the Updates for the games though...
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The PS3 store still works perfectly fine. In game access to the store still requires the store...so if that goes down, the in game store wont work (Try it for games with removed DLC. it doesn't work)
BTW still no evidence that anything is happening with the store, but anything for more clicks I guess......
Apparently in the USA it does but here in the UK you can't purchase anything! The PS Store boots up for navigation but there is no option for purchasing items anymore. Which is why the loophole on the few games that have the In-Game stores is pretty important for people wanting to get their last chance on DLC items. I bought some of the XIII-2 Bosses and forgotten Dead Space 2 had a small extra single player DLC called Severed.
I've heard many people say that the purchase button isn't there....but it actually is...it's just invisible. Have you tried that? Seems like it would be worth a shot!
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Seems it's Official Chaps and Chapessess, this email was receive in the account which my PSN is tied to:
Hi PlayStation Gamer,
We are closing PlayStation™Store on PlayStation®3 on 2 July 2021 and on PlayStation®Vita devices on 27 August 2021. Additionally, the remaining purchase functionality for PSP™ (PlayStation®Portable) will also retire on 2 July 2021. After thoughtful consideration, we decided to make these changes in an effort to focus our resources for PlayStation Store on PlayStation®4 and PlayStation®5, which will enable us to enhance the customer experience even further. We thank you for your support on these platforms throughout the years.
What does this mean for you?
You will no longer be able to purchase PS3, PS Vita and PSP digital content, including games and video content.
You will also no longer be able to make in-game purchases through games on PS3, PS Vita and PSP.
While the PSP storefront was previously closed in 2016, the remaining PSP purchase functionality (e.g. in-game purchases) will now be fully retired.
What about content you already own?
• You will still be able to download your owned PS3, PS Vita, and PSP content, including games and video content.
• You can download your owned content onto your PS3, PS Vita, or PSP by accessing the Download List on the respective device.
• If you have purchased a PS3/PS Vita cross-buy bundle and have only downloaded either the PS3 or PS Vita version, you will need to download the other version prior to the closure of PlayStation™Store on the relevant device.
• Video content that you own can be streamed on PS3, PS4 or PS5 through the My Videos app, or on mobile devices through the PlayStation™Video app.
• You will still be able to re-download and play game titles you have claimed through PlayStation®Plus as long as you remain a member of the service.
What about vouchers, wallet funds, and cross-buy content?
• You will still be able to redeem game and PlayStation®Plus vouchers on PS3, PS Vita, and PSP devices once PlayStation™Store and purchase functionality for these devices close.
• You will no longer be able to redeem PSN wallet fund vouchers (e.g. gift cards) on PS3, PS Vita, and PSP devices once PlayStation™Store and purchase functionality for these devices close.
• Your PSN wallet funds will remain in your PSN account, but you will only be able to use your wallet funds to purchase PS4 and PS5 products on PlayStation™Store on the web, PlayStation®App, or on PS4 and PS5 consoles.
• You will still be able to purchase cross-buy content through PlayStation™Store on the web, PlayStation®App, or on PS4 and PS5 consoles and access both the PS4 version and the PS3/PS Vita/PSP versions.
Where can you find out more?
Read our FAQ for more information: https://www.playstation.com/support/important-notice/
PS Vita messaging service
As of 28 June 2021*, users on PlayStation Vita will no longer be able to use the messaging service. Although messaging on PS Vita is going away, your messages will still be available to you by using the messaging service on PS5 consoles, PS4 consoles, and via mobile on PS App.
*Termination will start on 28 June 2021, actual date of the termination may differ by region.
Nothing speaking about the Updates for the games though...
Updates are on the download servers just like the games themselves. Why would they keep the games but remove the updates? Also, seems like TheGamer just earned a ton af credibility, lol
Luckily, Right around Christmas i decided to pick up anything left that I still wanted, since they weren't doing sales anymore. I did impulse buy a Ghostbusters game this weekend since it was $5 and I had $8 in my account. I'll have to double check my DLC, but I'm 99% sure I have everything I need.
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Quite a gold mine move of sony.
Just imagine them suddenly changing their mind and keeping them open ::)
They've never stated that any of this is going to happen. This all came from an unverified, non-credible source.
What if they leaked it on purpose. especially when it's from a non-credible source if they keep it open anyway, they won't even dirty their hands that way because they never officially stated it.
Eitherway allot of people are buying stuff in bulk atm not just collectors. Pretty interesting I'd say.
Things def took an interesting turn. Maybe they did leak it through an uncredible source on purpose. I'm just surprised they are giving such little warning on the closure.
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(somewhat off topic but)
There was a free program I forgot the name of. That I used once to connect my NA PS3 to my Windows 7 PC and install music directly from my PC to my PS3's harddrive
With something similar I could assume a program could be built so people can manually download the PS3 game patches when the official server has been closed. I hope so
the bad news is, the built in PS3 backup utility does not back up all the game patches so once your current PS3 dies you will no longer have some of the patches for a lot of the games.
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The PS3 store still works perfectly fine. In game access to the store still requires the store...so if that goes down, the in game store wont work (Try it for games with removed DLC. it doesn't work)
BTW still no evidence that anything is happening with the store, but anything for more clicks I guess......
Apparently in the USA it does but here in the UK you can't purchase anything! The PS Store boots up for navigation but there is no option for purchasing items anymore. Which is why the loophole on the few games that have the In-Game stores is pretty important for people wanting to get their last chance on DLC items. I bought some of the XIII-2 Bosses and forgotten Dead Space 2 had a small extra single player DLC called Severed.
I've heard many people say that the purchase button isn't there....but it actually is...it's just invisible. Have you tried that? Seems like it would be worth a shot!
SO IT DOES! Thanks for informing me, not seen anything about that elsewhere.
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The PS3 store still works perfectly fine. In game access to the store still requires the store...so if that goes down, the in game store wont work (Try it for games with removed DLC. it doesn't work)
BTW still no evidence that anything is happening with the store, but anything for more clicks I guess......
Apparently in the USA it does but here in the UK you can't purchase anything! The PS Store boots up for navigation but there is no option for purchasing items anymore. Which is why the loophole on the few games that have the In-Game stores is pretty important for people wanting to get their last chance on DLC items. I bought some of the XIII-2 Bosses and forgotten Dead Space 2 had a small extra single player DLC called Severed.
I've heard many people say that the purchase button isn't there....but it actually is...it's just invisible. Have you tried that? Seems like it would be worth a shot!
SO IT DOES! Thanks for informing me, not seen anything about that elsewhere.
Glad that worked for you :D Hopefully you can get the DLC you need now. I', going to do a comb through and make sure there isn'y anything I've missed over the weekend.
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I no longer have my PSP or PS3 but this is a bit sad. As for my PSV, it's been essentially a paperweight unless I want to replay Uncharted Golden Abyss every 3 to 5 years. Oh well.
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Guess I'll take this opportunity to solicit Vita suggestions. I've only got a few games on there, but every one that I've played I've really liked.
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Guess I'll take this opportunity to solicit Vita suggestions. I've only got a few games on there, but everyone that I've played I've really liked.
I bought Uncharted Fight for Fortune because it had the Uncharted name in it, but it's a card based game. I wasn't sure if I'd enjoy it, but I got addicted for a while. It's actually pretty good and not available in physical form. I also downloaded the DLCs after getting hooked. It can be pretty challenging as well.
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Guess I'll take this opportunity to solicit Vita suggestions. I've only got a few games on there, but every one that I've played I've really liked.
Suggestions based on what I have(not a whole lot)
Persona 4 Golden
Uncharted: Golden Abyss(by this point youd think this would get a port on the consoles but alas nothing)
Muramasa
Resistance: Burning Skies(if you care for FPS or even Resistance in general)
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Just coping my list from other post.
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Here list i created i know personally i be making sure, i have before July.
Like:
PS3:
Battle Princess of Arcadias PS3,
Legasista PS3,
Vandal Hearts: Flames of Judgment PS3.
Class Of Heroes 2G (i have physical release, but its very low print run, so most people can only get it digitally, and dont want to open my copy)
PSP:
Brandish: The Dark Revenant
Cladun: This is an RPG!
End Of Serenity
Final Fantasy Tactics: War of The Lions
Mystic Chronicles
PSVita:
Adventures of Mana
Ar nosurge Plus: Ode to an Unborn Star
Oreshika: Tainted Bloodlines
Soul Sacrifice Delta
I am defiantly also going to pick up certain PS1 games like Final Fantasy Tactics, Legend of Dragoon, Mega Man Legends 1-2, Parasite Eve 1-2, Persona 2: Eternal Punishment, Suikoden 1-2, Vagrant Story, Wilds Arms 1-2, Xenogears (even though i own them physically, i just want digital formats, just in case if anything happens to my discs, especially the more expansive PS1 games. Legend of Dragoon and Final Fantasy Tactics are my favorite PS1 games.
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It's not looking good for updates guys...
https://www.ign.com/articles/players-reportedly-unable-to-download-essential-ps3-game-patches-ahead-of-store-closure
I'll reference my video once again. Sorry, I know I sound like I'm watching paint dry but I'm not used to talking on Camera.Still, it shows a quicker way to go through PS3 games updates without having to proceed with the install files - I went through all my 200+ PS3 games this way:
https://youtu.be/j3Yyapdg4kE
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Ps4 owners might have it rougher though even your physical games will be unplayable when that ps4 internal clock runs dry
https://in.ign.com/ps3/156762/news/ps3-drm-kills-digital-games-ps4-discs-report (https://in.ign.com/ps3/156762/news/ps3-drm-kills-digital-games-ps4-discs-report)
If I'm not mistaken ps5 has that same system. I think there will be solutions for this problem for collectors and such but for the masses who owned such consoles it will be paper weight to much of a hassle. ticking time bombs, was this done on purpose to remove people from their older consoles? because it would definitely work for majority of the consumer base and they would probably not give a flying fuck cause of newer gens and because the console was probably going to die at some point anyway :o
I hope switch and wii u don't have that many issues considering it's allot less online heavy than microsoft or sony.
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I must say with utmost sincerity that the ineptitude is truly palpable, and excruciatingly so.
Quite frankly, after reading up about this and seeing how fucking retarded all of it is, I'm very much disheartened and lost all motivation to continue collecting for the console. Shutting down their online storefronts for their other consoles is terrible for sure, but understandable and expected; however, this PS4/PS5 bullshit is outright egregious.
"Play has no limits" literally lost all meaning.
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Ps4 owners might have it rougher though even your physical games will be unplayable when that ps4 internal clock runs dry
https://in.ign.com/ps3/156762/news/ps3-drm-kills-digital-games-ps4-discs-report (https://in.ign.com/ps3/156762/news/ps3-drm-kills-digital-games-ps4-discs-report)
If I'm not mistaken ps5 has that same system. I think there will be solutions for this problem for collectors and such but for the masses who owned such consoles it will be paper weight to much of a hassle. ticking time bombs, was this done on purpose to remove people from their older consoles? because it would definitely work for majority of the consumer base and they would probably not give a flying fuck cause of newer gens and because the console was probably going to die at some point anyway :o
I hope switch and wii u don't have that many issues considering it's allot less online heavy than microsoft or sony.
The irony is so palpable
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If what all I'm reading is correct, then a PlayStation 4 will eventually become a hunk o' junk because one of its clocks will stop working and it won't be able to read discs due to trophy security? Is that it?
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Ps4 owners might have it rougher though even your physical games will be unplayable when that ps4 internal clock runs dry
https://in.ign.com/ps3/156762/news/ps3-drm-kills-digital-games-ps4-discs-report (https://in.ign.com/ps3/156762/news/ps3-drm-kills-digital-games-ps4-discs-report)
If I'm not mistaken ps5 has that same system. I think there will be solutions for this problem for collectors and such but for the masses who owned such consoles it will be paper weight to much of a hassle. ticking time bombs, was this done on purpose to remove people from their older consoles? because it would definitely work for majority of the consumer base and they would probably not give a flying fuck cause of newer gens and because the console was probably going to die at some point anyway :o
I hope switch and wii u don't have that many issues considering it's allot less online heavy than microsoft or sony.
If what all I'm reading is correct, then a PlayStation 4 will eventually become a hunk o' junk because one of its clocks will stop working and it won't be able to read discs due to trophy security? Is that it?
I knew something like this was going to happen. Join me and protest against modern video game console standards. Something tells me Microsoft will take advantage of SONY's business flaw. I've always liked Microsoft. SONY I loved their PS3 and PS2 but first.
First they take force us to download patches, then they force us into buying digital copies, then they remove the games off the disc required you to download them in order to play them. then they require most of your hard drive now this happens.
Well I now might need to tell a relative of mine, that his brand new PS4 that he purchased (new) and barely gotten any usage out of will be useless.
In other news last year I was talking to a stranger about video games. and he said he had a few modern video games but, since he is always working and trying to pay bills he never gotten around to them. Gee
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Vita and PS3 no longer closing down.
https://blog.playstation.com/2021/04/19/playstation-store-on-ps3-and-ps-vita-will-continue-operations/ (https://blog.playstation.com/2021/04/19/playstation-store-on-ps3-and-ps-vita-will-continue-operations/)
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PSP will still close, but I think you can buy PSP stuff using the PS3 store, so, not big deal.
Not bad, Sony.
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What a nightmare this has been... glad to see Sony have come to their sense... but for how long?
Regardless this has given me the kick up the backside to get the last PS3/Vita stuff I want - I got most of it with a decent deal online for a PSN voucher. The whole fiasco has still put a lot of doubt between me and Sony. The Final Fantasy XVI exclusivity saved me jumping to Xbox this time, but if Xbox continue to treat their heritage titles with the respect they've been doing so, I will inevitably jump ships.
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Umm.
I don't know, nowadays trust in a company almost always end in failure.
But after this and the cmos battery I jumped the ship and I am sure to support Xbox now.
I am open to keep buying Sony consoles, though.
At least for now it looks that if the cmos battery for PS5 dies the console still play physical games but not digital at all.
But it will require more testing.
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you love to see it. The customer is always right.
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you love to see it. The customer is always right.
I will buy that for a dollar.
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I still don't trust them to keep things up very long, so I'm going through the process of downloading all patches for PSP, PS3, and PSVita games now so I have them available to me when I finally get to many of the games still on my backlog.
Sony, just fix the CMOS issue, mm'kay? Or you want to make some bank? Offer us a Playstation console that plays everything, 1-5 (okay, maybe 1-4, but then fix the damn CMOS on 5).
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I still don't trust them to keep things up very long, so I'm going through the process of downloading all patches for PSP, PS3, and PSVita games now so I have them available to me when I finally get to many of the games still on my backlog.
Sony, just fix the CMOS issue, mm'kay? Or you want to make some bank? Offer us a Playstation console that plays everything, 1-5 (okay, maybe 1-4, but then fix the damn CMOS on 5).
if only they would ::)
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What a nightmare this has been... glad to see Sony have come to their sense... but for how long?
Regardless this has given me the kick up the backside to get the last PS3/Vita stuff I want - I got most of it with a decent deal online for a PSN voucher. The whole fiasco has still put a lot of doubt between me and Sony. The Final Fantasy XVI exclusivity saved me jumping to Xbox this time, but if Xbox continue to treat their heritage titles with the respect they've been doing so, I will inevitably jump ships.
https://hackaday.com/2021/03/23/digital-playstation-3-purchases-may-only-live-as-long-as-your-pram-battery-without-sony-servers/?fbclid=IwAR2qcriUxg-4JIet3Wb23aTcU-qhpNbTyh6fuB1sMQ5-FF8ZSrBAYqsujTI (https://hackaday.com/2021/03/23/digital-playstation-3-purchases-may-only-live-as-long-as-your-pram-battery-without-sony-servers/?fbclid=IwAR2qcriUxg-4JIet3Wb23aTcU-qhpNbTyh6fuB1sMQ5-FF8ZSrBAYqsujTI)
https://youtu.be/qt5juSuq69g?t=1317 (https://youtu.be/qt5juSuq69g?t=1317) at the 22 minute mark
It seems that the cmos battery issue exist on ps3 aswell but not as bad as ps4 that it would affect physical games.
However If this is actually true you might not want to buy that much digital content. If sony ever decides to close down them ps3 stores your digital games dlc etc might be worthless. so the fomo purchases that people make before the store closes down would ironicly not be saved since after closure when your cmos battery dies all your digital content might not work anymore even when you replace it.
If we Consider that there is a time window in how long sony will keep them gates open it might not be usable for all that long. I hope the ps3 one isn't true considering how people actually made some last second purchases since the store would close down to play them later on.
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Vita and PS3 no longer closing down.
https://blog.playstation.com/2021/04/19/playstation-store-on-ps3-and-ps-vita-will-continue-operations/ (https://blog.playstation.com/2021/04/19/playstation-store-on-ps3-and-ps-vita-will-continue-operations/)
That was a good marketing stunt.
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this article is about consumer rights so nobody is suppose to disable products that consumers purchased legally
https://www.ftc.gov/about-ftc/bureaus-offices/bureau-consumer-protection
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However If this is actually true you might not want to buy that much digital content. If sony ever decides to close down them ps3 stores your digital games dlc etc might be worthless. so the fomo purchases that people make before the store closes down would ironicly not be saved since after closure when your cmos battery dies all your digital content might not work anymore even when you replace it.
If we Consider that there is a time window in how long sony will keep them gates open it might not be usable for all that long. I hope the ps3 one isn't true considering how people actually made some last second purchases since the store would close down to play them later on.
I know many on here will have a far larger PS3 collection that I, but I downloaded all the patches for my nearly 80 physical games..... and it came to a grand total of 11.5 GB. Not bad, to be honest, and there are a lot of AAA releases in that library (but GOTY editions where possible, so in addition to DLC said editions also tend to have all patches on disc as well).
In case anyone hasn’t booted up their PS3 in a while, the instant you pop in a disc, the system looks for all the updates to download and install.... even before installing the game. So it’s a pretty easy process to get all the game patches without having to fill up your disc with all the games themselves. :)
this article is about consumer rights so nobody is suppose to disable products that consumers purchased legally
https://www.ftc.gov/about-ftc/bureaus-offices/bureau-consumer-protection
1) nobody here, except you, thinks Sony is going to intentionally disable the console. ::)
2) The world is bigger then the US, so in any event what you’re citing with that link does apply to anyone here outside the US
3) that’s not even an article you linked..... it’s just the web portal for consumer protection information
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this article is about consumer rights so nobody is suppose to disable products that consumers purchased legally
https://www.ftc.gov/about-ftc/bureaus-offices/bureau-consumer-protection
https://youtu.be/inlbg2I7Qnc?t=1041 (https://youtu.be/inlbg2I7Qnc?t=1041) 17.21 minute mark
Sony is allowed to do that laywers have already looked at them rules sony got them asses covered. You can't sue them even for physical games. Technicalities long after a console is dead ain't there responsbility. Even with snes and sega genesis games you technially don't own the license however the game is stuck physical so you can do with it what you want except for copying it and selling those like a ton of people did with dvd's back in the day.
Music and movies hate physical since you earn way less money that way since people can sell it 2nd hand aka the reason why those 2 sectors are really digital heavy these days. They hate phsyical like the plague.
I will say that oldgamerz isn't entirely incorrect Companies might have made this design choice on purpose.
PS1 can still be used like back than.
ps2 has some dead servers of online games.
Ps3 all your digital content and probably patches already downloaded on your system will be unusable when servers are down even when it's on your system.
ps4 both digital and physical games will be unusable withouth servers when the battery dies
Giving less control to the consumer isn't just sony exclusive. These practices happen everywhere. phones music movies.
As a company you can scrape stuff away little by little giving less control to the consumer however you want to do this when people hardly notice it. However since people complained and noticed it this time they might reverse it a bit since people discovered these intentional or accidental flaws.
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I know many on here will have a far larger PS3 collection that I, but I downloaded all the patches for my nearly 80 physical games..... and it came to a grand total of 11.5 GB. Not bad, to be honest, and there are a lot of AAA releases in that library (but GOTY editions where possible, so in addition to DLC said editions also tend to have all patches on disc as well).
In case anyone hasn’t booted up their PS3 in a while, the instant you pop in a disc, the system looks for all the updates to download and install.... even before installing the game. So it’s a pretty easy process to get all the game patches without having to fill up your disc with all the games themselves. :)
That's why I'm so quick to stand by the PS3, because of how many games progress and patches can fit onto a single PS3, unlike most modern consoles, where one game can take the equivalent of 80 game patches and the games. one game on a PS4 or Xbox one needs to be downloaded and installed AND patched in order to play it. All the while requiring 20GB or more sometimes 100GB in call of duty's case.
I am well aware of claims to say storage capacity is cheaper these days. But that don't stop the fact that this stuff takes resources to build, limited resources, that the planet has. and slave labor. hard drives and most other electronics are made from a type of crystal
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I know many on here will have a far larger PS3 collection that I, but I downloaded all the patches for my nearly 80 physical games..... and it came to a grand total of 11.5 GB. Not bad, to be honest, and there are a lot of AAA releases in that library (but GOTY editions where possible, so in addition to DLC said editions also tend to have all patches on disc as well).
In case anyone hasn’t booted up their PS3 in a while, the instant you pop in a disc, the system looks for all the updates to download and install.... even before installing the game. So it’s a pretty easy process to get all the game patches without having to fill up your disc with all the games themselves. :)
That's why I'm so quick to stand by the PS3, because of how many games progress and patches can fit onto a single PS3, unlike most modern consoles, where one game can take the equivalent of 80 game patches and the games. one game on a PS4 or Xbox one needs to be downloaded and installed AND patched in order to play it. All the while requiring 20GB or more sometimes 100GB in call of duty's case.
I am well aware of claims to say storage capacity is cheaper these days. But that don't stop the fact that this stuff takes resources to build, limited resources, that the planet has. and slave labor. hard drives and most other electronics are made from a type of crystal
Allot of people just delete games that they don't play anymore with those consoles. you could always download it again later on well for the forseeable future at least.
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I know many on here will have a far larger PS3 collection that I, but I downloaded all the patches for my nearly 80 physical games..... and it came to a grand total of 11.5 GB. Not bad, to be honest, and there are a lot of AAA releases in that library (but GOTY editions where possible, so in addition to DLC said editions also tend to have all patches on disc as well).
In case anyone hasn’t booted up their PS3 in a while, the instant you pop in a disc, the system looks for all the updates to download and install.... even before installing the game. So it’s a pretty easy process to get all the game patches without having to fill up your disc with all the games themselves. :)
That's why I'm so quick to stand by the PS3, because of how many games progress and patches can fit onto a single PS3, unlike most modern consoles, where one game can take the equivalent of 80 game patches and the games. one game on a PS4 or Xbox one needs to be downloaded and installed AND patched in order to play it. All the while requiring 20GB or more sometimes 100GB in call of duty's case.
I am well aware of claims to say storage capacity is cheaper these days. But that don't stop the fact that this stuff takes resources to build, limited resources, that the planet has. and slave labor. hard drives and most other electronics are made from a type of crystal
Just like PCs. At the end of the day consoles with the exception of the Switch are PCs without the functionalities of a traditional computers. What PS4 and Xbox One are doing is no different than what PC games are doing with patches and games being installed unto the hard drive except there is no physical media attached to it(at least anymore). Plus as sworddude said, free up space for games you arent using it and leave it for those you want. Not the end of the world.
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I know many on here will have a far larger PS3 collection that I, but I downloaded all the patches for my nearly 80 physical games..... and it came to a grand total of 11.5 GB. Not bad, to be honest, and there are a lot of AAA releases in that library (but GOTY editions where possible, so in addition to DLC said editions also tend to have all patches on disc as well).
In case anyone hasn’t booted up their PS3 in a while, the instant you pop in a disc, the system looks for all the updates to download and install.... even before installing the game. So it’s a pretty easy process to get all the game patches without having to fill up your disc with all the games themselves. :)
That's why I'm so quick to stand by the PS3, because of how many games progress and patches can fit onto a single PS3, unlike most modern consoles, where one game can take the equivalent of 80 game patches and the games. one game on a PS4 or Xbox one needs to be downloaded and installed AND patched in order to play it. All the while requiring 20GB or more sometimes 100GB in call of duty's case.
I am well aware of claims to say storage capacity is cheaper these days. But that don't stop the fact that this stuff takes resources to build, limited resources, that the planet has. and slave labor. hard drives and most other electronics are made from a type of crystal
Just like PCs. At the end of the day consoles with the exception of the Switch are PCs without the functionalities of a traditional computers. What PS4 and Xbox One are doing is no different than what PC games are doing with patches and games being installed unto the hard drive except there is no physical media attached to it(at least anymore). Plus as sworddude said, free up space for games you arent using it and leave it for those you want. Not the end of the world.
Modern console don't seem useful to me, I could buy a new PS4 now or PS5 still in the Box, but, I would only be able to use it temporary probably. no point, but unlike a lot of people I don't just buy any game to sell it later when I'm done with it, If anyone of you only play a game a few times and never go back to it ever again then buy a modern console., there is so much to life in these games
but developers are still working there asses off to make new games for these things, but in a few years their project will just get trashed. all that work will be lost unless the developers keep them in a safe backup place. without a working console their project is just a waste of time, not to mention each time a new console comes out developers need to re-learn how to design games for the newer hardware.
Digital is fine but not when it take up so much space on a hard drive. I just won't quit on this.
As for PC? there is billions of free legal custom content for games on PC for free. and, as of right now there is a somewhat easy way to put digital steam downloads to a hard drive to use them in the future, as for the PS3? well it would take some hacking just to get all the patches working on most PS3 games. when you can't download them anymore. SONY even wrote in the PS3 fine print that when you use the PS3 backup utility it will only backup some of a lot of the games data, not all the patch will ever write to your backup drive without additional hacking
also with the PS3 you can not just swap out hard drives I tried that, and I needed to reformat my entire hard drive, and re-install the PS3 operating system. You can not just take a hard dirve off a failed PS3 and put it into another without first having a copy of that base PS3 operating system.
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also with the PS3 you can not just swap out hard drives I tried that, and I needed to reformat my entire hard drive, and re-install the PS3 operating system. You can not just take a hard dirve off a failed PS3 and put it into another without first having a copy of that base PS3 operating system.
Which is exactly how it works for a PC as well.
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How do you expect digital to not take up hard drive space when its freaking data and just like any data on a computer, it takes up hard drive space.
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How do you expect digital to not take up hard drive space when its freaking data and just like any data on a computer, it takes up hard drive space.
yes but (most of) the games I play are not even equal to 1gb a piece
also with the PS3 you can not just swap out hard drives I tried that, and I needed to reformat my entire hard drive, and re-install the PS3 operating system. You can not just take a hard dirve off a failed PS3 and put it into another without first having a copy of that base PS3 operating system.
Which is exactly how it works for a PC as well.
yes but at least i can backup my digital library and what I play, that is until the OS changes though :-\
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How do you expect digital to not take up hard drive space when its freaking data and just like any data on a computer, it takes up hard drive space.
yes but (most of) the games I play are not even equal to 1gb a piece
The very same games aren't that much smaller or bigger on different platforms.
If anything I'd say the format on pc might take up the most storage since it has the best specs.
(https://i.imgur.com/w31ESoD.png)
Why not play more indi esk games on console while you play modern warfare/ call of duty on pc. AT less than 1GB per game it seems to me that your either playing something retro or indi on pc. while you play the more storage heavy brand new stuff on consoles.
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How do you expect digital to not take up hard drive space when its freaking data and just like any data on a computer, it takes up hard drive space.
yes but (most of) the games I play are not even equal to 1gb a piece
The very same games aren't that much smaller or bigger on different platforms.
If anything I'd say the format on pc might take up the most storage since it has the best specs.
(https://i.imgur.com/w31ESoD.png)
Why not play more indi esk games on console while you play modern warfare/ call of duty on pc. AT less than 1GB per game it seems to me that your either playing something retro or indi on pc. while you play the more storage heavy brand new stuff on consoles.
NOT RELATED BUT:
::) of course
but I also play retro games on consoles as well ::)
and I install them to the Xbox360 harddrive as well. most games installed to a Xbox360 are only 10 GB a piece maximum. and I can fit a every game I own so far on it.
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How do you expect digital to not take up hard drive space when its freaking data and just like any data on a computer, it takes up hard drive space.
yes but (most of) the games I play are not even equal to 1gb a piece
The very same games aren't that much smaller or bigger on different platforms.
If anything I'd say the format on pc might take up the most storage since it has the best specs.
(https://i.imgur.com/w31ESoD.png)
Why not play more indi esk games on console while you play modern warfare/ call of duty on pc. AT less than 1GB per game it seems to me that your either playing something retro or indi on pc. while you play the more storage heavy brand new stuff on consoles.
NOT RELATED BUT:
::) of course
but I also play retro games on consoles as well ::)
and I install them to the Xbox360 harddrive as well. most games installed to a Xbox360 are only 10 GB a piece maximum. and I can fit a every game I own so far on it.
but xbox 360 is one generation older. it's only natural that the games use a hell lot less data. if newer generations used the same amount of data as xbox 360 they would probably look like xbox 360 games in wich it's kinda pointless to get the newer console.
Retro games on ps4 would also use allot less data or downloads of last gen consoles. modern stuff will however use more data.
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How do you expect digital to not take up hard drive space when its freaking data and just like any data on a computer, it takes up hard drive space.
yes but (most of) the games I play are not even equal to 1gb a piece
The very same games aren't that much smaller or bigger on different platforms.
If anything I'd say the format on pc might take up the most storage since it has the best specs.
(https://i.imgur.com/w31ESoD.png)
Why not play more indi esk games on console while you play modern warfare/ call of duty on pc. AT less than 1GB per game it seems to me that your either playing something retro or indi on pc. while you play the more storage heavy brand new stuff on consoles.
NOT RELATED BUT:
::) of course
but I also play retro games on consoles as well ::)
and I install them to the Xbox360 harddrive as well. most games installed to a Xbox360 are only 10 GB a piece maximum. and I can fit a every game I own so far on it.
but xbox 360 is one generation older. it's only natural that the games use a hell lot less data. if newer generations used the same amount of data as xbox 360 they would probably look like xbox 360 games in wich it's kinda pointless to get the newer console.
Retro games on ps4 would also use allot less data or downloads of last gen consoles. modern stuff will however use more data.
Why though? Xbox 360 doesnt require you to download the game unto the hard drive but unless you want to use your disc less then it makes sense since all you need it for if installed is to be in the console for authentication. That said game sizes getting bigger in space isnt a new concept. It's been happening for years. Note: This post was not directed at you sword but rather I used this to piggy back and follow up.
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Vita and PS3 no longer closing down.
https://blog.playstation.com/2021/04/19/playstation-store-on-ps3-and-ps-vita-will-continue-operations/ (https://blog.playstation.com/2021/04/19/playstation-store-on-ps3-and-ps-vita-will-continue-operations/)
Jim Ryan is a true pro angler 'cause that move was a definite hook, line, and sinker. That's corporate hustle[greed] at its best right there.
Nonetheless, this was nothing short of a true fiasco.