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General and Gaming => General => Topic started by: bikingjahuty on October 15, 2021, 10:10:20 pm
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This topic got brought up on a Facebook gaming group I belong to so I figured why not lighten things up here with the topic too. Here are mine.
Most fun: PS2
I got into PS2 collecting at the perfect time. It was in the late 2000s so the PS3 was in full swing as the Playstation console of choice and most people were practically giving their PS2 games away. Also keep in mind that video game collecting was very, very niche in the late 2000s so there was nearly no competition for it at the time. As a result I regularly picked up really hard to find and now very expensive PS2 games for less than $10 each regularly. There wqs one store in particular I picked up the bulk of my PS2 games and they had them at $3 a game regardless of the title. I grabbed games like Haunting Grounds, Gitaroo man, Kuon, God Hand, DBZ Budokai Tenkaichi 3, and many other heavy hitters for a few bucks each, and some games I found multiple copies at these ultra low prices. It was an absolute goldmine when I was heavily collecting PS2, and there were probably only about 30 or so games that I had to spend more than $10 to obtain. I miss when it was that easy and cheap. PS2 collecting also really fueled my overall collectorism back in the day too.
Least Fun: Sega Saturn
I've never found Sega Saturn collecting to be enjoyable despite loving the console. Funny enough it was the first console I started collecting for back in 2008 and even back then no one had the games and if they did it was mostly the stuff that everyone had in their collections like Virtua Fighter, Daytona USA, and Virtua Cop. Don't get me wrong, I adore those games, but it was nearly impossible to find a decent selection of Saturn games at any store, and even back in the late 2000s games lie Panzer Dragoon Saga, Burning Rangers, and House of the Dead were still pretty expensive. I started accumulating games off ebay using money from my minimum wage job and some leftover scholarship money and would pick a game up every other month or so. I eventually had to sell my initial Saturn collection, but a few years later I decided to collect Japanese Saturn only due to it being substantially cheaper online. The only problem still were those pesky RPGs that I'd have to get in English due to not being fluent in Japanese. A few years ago I essentially said screw it and started collecting US Saturn again, and holy god, it's even more miserable now. I spent the most I'd ever spent on a game ever with Panzer Dragoon Saga only to find it's only a slightly above average JRPG for the time. But since getting back into Saturn collecting a few years ago my collection has grown at a sloth's pace to the point of more or less stopping. Due to the US dollar being worth less than the paper it's printed on now and the government's gross mismanagement of our economy, pretty much everything, including Saturn games have mooned. I highly doubt I'll be adding more than a single game or two to my Saturn collection every year or two from here on, unless of course something dramatically changes. But yeah, Saturn collecting has sucked ass ever since I began collecting and I hate doing it despite loving the console and its library.
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Most fun - PS4. Simply put ... such a wide variety of everything available on this console. And adding in all the LE consoles and controllers and its such an amazing set up.
Least fun - NES. I know Im in the minority here but the games are hardly enjoyable anymore. Plus a good 50% of them costing way more than they should made it more stressful than it really should be.
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Least fun - NES. I know Im in the minority here but the games are hardly enjoyable anymore. Plus a good 50% of them costing way more than they should made it more stressful than it really should be.
I'll think on my response, but I agree with this. NES might have some interesting games, but I just can't get into it enough to justify going any further than I already have... and I don't even have "good" games.
That said.
Most fun - PS2. It was just a perfect storm to be quite honest. Development was pretty easy so it allowed for tons of releases due to stuff like unreal engine, havok engine, etc. This was the start of universal engines that could ease porting. We didn't have digital marketplaces for games to get buried and forgotten in yet. DVD cases made it so much easier to keep things complete compared to jewel cases, cardboard boxes, etc. PS1 had a lot of good titles too, but the jewel cases made the process a little harder collecting wise, and a lot of the games were already rare to start with whereas PS2 didn't get too bad until recent (possibly covid times).
Least fun - Honestly, anything Nintendo, but especially NES. Everything Nintendo is always wack in the secondary market, and NES just is a pretty boring platform for me. That said, I'll also put something about PS4/NS. The advent of limited print releases has made collecting for PS4/NS kind of just absolute shit because buy at 2-10x MSRP to get it physical or pay 6-30x MSRP down the line from a scalper on the secondary market... plus FOMO driving sales... plus retailers following suit limiting printings and making things even at retail a thing that you gotta buy near release or be boned... plus the downfall of Gamestop in general means finding games second hand for either platform is hard to do as well. PS5/XSX is gonna be worse when you consider the rise of limited printing, the fall of retail, and the push for digital. PS4/NS already has LRG holding the majority of physical release on platforms, it's gonna be worse for PS5.
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Most fun
Super Nintendo is the most fun for me. I know about every game released for the system but often never have actually seen many of them. So for me it's exciting to finally find one.
Neo Geo
I guess the Neo Geo would be the least fun first thing I never find any,then if you actually do it's expensive as hell so it impossible to scratch more than one at a time off your collection wish list.
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Most fun for me:
NES
It's what I grew up on and fell in love with gaming on. It's hard to come across games I want that I don't already have anymore, though.
Least fun for me:
I've got two answers for this: First of all the Atari 2600. I just can't get into it. I respect it's history in video games and love the story behind Atari the company. But I just can't get into the console. It's games are too basic for me.
And my 2nd answer is because the spike in video game prices. Sega Saturn. It was already expensive to collect for, but manageable for a certain tier of games. But now, it's just crazy. The Sega Saturn has crossed the line into rich collector's territory. And this is a recent thing. I wish I had never sold my original collection when my first Saturn died. Because all I have are 2 games, right now.
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》》》Most fun.
PS2, Wii and Xbox One because most interesting games are pretty cheap, that's something I am thankful for.
》》》Less fun
GBA.
Not a big fan for buying such small cartridges without box and most interesting game with box are way too expensive, nowadays, still I consider this is a problem with other cartridges based consoles.
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Most Fun: PS1
I am a big fan of GRIMEY early 3D games and there are some pretty interesting games on the console. Lots of great RPGs, lots of weird little walking simulators, PAC Man World. It’s all so cool! There are tons of PS1 games laying around just waiting to be played!
Least Fun: American Sega Saturn
American Sega Saturn games are so rare that it’s impossible to find them in the wild and anything that’s fun to play costs so much that it makes me sad. In Japan, it’s really fun to hunt down Saturn games because the console didn’t fall over and die over there. You can almost find games buried in the dirt. In America, I only see five Saturn games a year. Four of them are NHL All Star Hockey, and the last one costs $600. Plus the boxes are so fragile that looking at them funny will break them and you can’t just get another longbox case. It’s a shame because I DO love the Saturn, it’s such a dud that I can’t help but love it. I just don’t have the heart to collect for it seriously.
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Most fun
Playstation 2 and CD-i
Affordable games in any genre and both consoles consists of a partially very obscure library of games. Being on the hunt for games that nobody on this site owns and then putting them in the database myself is very rewarding.
Least fun
Nintendo, Super Nintendo and Genesis. I have never found one of these games in the wild. In stores they are wayy too expensive and I never really have a chance to experience any of the games.
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Most fun: PlayStation 2.
Least fun: Nintendo DS.
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Most fun:
Tie between GBA and ps1. while definitely more popular nowadays usually the consoles that where less looked for and thus deals where fairly easy to come by. had a blast collecting for these consoles and coming across stuff that I've never heard off.
Honorable mentions to ps2, ds and sega genesis/megadrive
Least fun:
While I could say neo geo or turbografx because they barely exist or atari 2600 since I don't have an interest in it. I'm just going to put a console here that I actually collect for.
It's got to be the NES. Unlike the states nes supply is allot worse in europe let alone that the boxes are quite fragile compared to the cardboard released nintendo games that came after it. CIB supply in nice condition is trash. Fun console but in my experience the worst console to collect for cib. The prices are not even the highest far worse consoles to collect for like snes saturn etc but it's tough to find nes deals not to many deals out there for this console compared to way more pricy consoles ironicly.
Nes ain't my favourite console though so I guess that's a blessing in disguise that more pricy (more fun) consoles to collect for have more plentyfull supply in wich I did come across the good stuff way more often. It makes no sense but I'm definitely okay with that.
I'm putting in N64 as the 2nd worst console to collect for, not allot of suprises left, also pretty tough to find cib deals for because it's mostly pretty popular stuff.
Still really pleased what i did manage to get with these 2 consoles but It's definitely quite a bit more challenging compared to the rest.
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It's hard to say. I think overall, Nintendo stuff is the least fun to collect because everybody's pretty much looking for the same thing. I can't even imagine trying to buy the desirable GameCube games now. NES and SNES are ridiculous now too, but overall, I do like how several games are available as imports for much cheaper prices. That's how I was able to get and play games like DuckTales 2, Bucky O'Hare, Bonk, Mega Man 7 and Demon's Crest for much much less than their North American counterparts. I used to think the Genesis was great to collect for, but the better games are prohibitively expensive and unlike the Nintendo systems, Japanese imports are very hard to come by. I still like collecting for the Saturn because the Japanese library is still mostly affordable. The Nintendo Switch also sucks to collect for, very few exclusive titles and tons of limited and special editions, most of them overpriced as balls.
Lately, I've enjoyed collecting for the Intellivision, Atari 2600, the OG Xbox and PC Engine. The Atari and Intellivision have lots of great little games that next to nobody knows about; I couldn't believe how advanced Pitfall II, Pengo and Double Dragon are on the 2600. I hadn't really been using my Xbox because it barely works at all, but I got a copy of OutRun 2 and it was amazingly fun, but it kept freezing, so I took the time to open the thing up, deep clean it, replace the disc drive and the clock capacitor and now it's running like new more or less. Some of the higher HD resolution games on the OG Xbox look simply stunning, better than stuff we're seeing on the Switch nowadays even. The PC Engine has a lot of great games too. If you're willing to learn how to use Japanese auction sites, you can get much better deals than eBay.
Overall, my collecting has slowed way way down in the past year though since I got my house. I've gotten rid of probably 60 games or so, and now I only buy what I intend to play. I used to buy whatever I could find, thinking having higher numbers is better than having a more curated collection, that's why at one point I had like 110 PS2 games, and most of them were cruddy sports and licensed games.
Overall my current thoughts:
Most fun: OG Xbox, Atari 2600, Intellivision and PC Engine
Least fun: Switch, North American NES and SNES, and Sega Genesis
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Overall my current thoughts:
Most fun: OG Xbox, Atari 2600, Intellivision and PC Engine
Least fun: Switch, North American NES and SNES, and Sega Genesis
OG XBOX was definitely the easiest console I've ever collected for, which in a way made it fun. I was collecting heavily for it around the same time I was really into PS2 collecting and it was also the first game collection where I obtained everything I wanted for it. And that was like 8 years ago now lol. Even games like Operation Genesis and the Otogi games were not difficult to find for way under ebay prices. In fact, I specifically remember picking up Operation Genesis at a used media store for $3, CIB. Original XBOX is still fairly easy to collect for surprisingly given how many great games are on the console.
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Most fun - PS4. Simply put ... such a wide variety of everything available on this console. And adding in all the LE consoles and controllers and its such an amazing set up.
Least fun - NES. I know Im in the minority here but the games are hardly enjoyable anymore. Plus a good 50% of them costing way more than they should made it more stressful than it really should be.
I can definitely relate to both your picks. NES was big when I was born, but by the time I got into gaming as a young kid, the 16-bit wars had already started. A neighbor of mine had the NES, and I thought it was cool, but having a Genesis I was hardly impressed by many of the games outside maybe Super Mario Bros 3. When I began collecting for the NES it was just starting to get popular so you could still find some pretty hard to find games for cheap. I never found anything like Samson or Flintstones 2, but did find a few heavy hitters when I was actively collecting for it. I realized I wasn't as interested in the NES as I thought by the time I had around 100 games for it and sold most of my NES collection off. My nES collection has grown since then, but mostly as a result of circumstance rather than me actively seeking out certain NES games like I used to. It's just a console that was unfortunately just slightly before my time in terms of catching my interest.
I LOVE the PS4 and its libraries. I already have a pretty sizable PS4 collection, but I cannot wait until it's no longer desirable and the games dramatically drop in price similar to where the 360 is, and where the Wii and PS4 were a couple years ago. I can easily see the PS4 becoming my largest collection eventually. I've been actually meaning to create a list of PS4 games I still want to find, but with the console still getting regular releases I've decided to hold off until few games are still coming out for it. Hopefully the PS5 stock issue will get resolved soon and devs can start shifting their attention to it fully. But yeah, in 3 or 4 years I fully expect the PS4 to be prime collecting territory for me.
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OG XBOX was definitely the easiest console I've ever collected for, which in a way made it fun. I was collecting heavily for it around the same time I was really into PS2 collecting and it was also the first game collection where I obtained everything I wanted for it. And that was like 8 years ago now lol. Even games like Operation Genesis and the Otogi games were not difficult to find for way under ebay prices. In fact, I specifically remember picking up Operation Genesis at a used media store for $3, CIB. Original XBOX is still fairly easy to collect for surprisingly given how many great games are on the console.
Yeah, there's a few titles still want that are around the ~60 dollar range, but that's peanuts compared to what people are paying for extremely common games like Mario Sunshine and Smash Bros. Melee. I think from now on, I'll exclusively buying multiplat games for the Xbox as they usually run better and they look great on our modern TV screens.
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og xbox was definitely the easiest console to collect for, got to agree with that.
I'm pretty sure I got almost my entire collection in just a few months with not much left to do after it. indeed pretty easy to find the good stuff and even rarities like stubbs zombie for flea market prices.
I don't believe og xbox is as easy to collect for as some years ago, but it's probably still the easiest console to collect for by far. unless ofcourse ps3 and xbox 360 are considered retro than it gets allot closer.
I personally don't rate it super high in terms of fun collecting wise simply because I don't think the library is all that great compared to many other consoles. so while it's easy to collect for I've way less excitement for collecting for xbox. Fun console regardless though definitely one of the few retro consoles that is beginner friendly to collect for.
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Most fun: Big box PC games. They haven't been hit by the price surge that much. The only real problem is lack of shelf space.
Least fun: Any game from overseas. I like looking at games from Japan that never released here (I.e. Wonder Project J, Slayers, or the og Fire Emblem) and usually buy them cib as well, but unless I am lucky enough to find an American seller, the shipping fee alone will jack the price up, and more often than not, at least for me, it gets lost in the mail and I have to make a bunch of calls to find it.
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I have to agree on PS2 being my favorite, it's my childhood console and the game are readily available.
My least favorite is 100% the Gamecube. I've never been a big Nintendo fan and the games are really expensive.
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Most Fun Wii U
Wii U is what it is but nobody can deny that it's library is approachable, easy to collect for casually and was packed with hidden gems that the purist of Wii U would care for :) This was before switch took almost all of it's library but I still think Wii U complete libraries are one of the most obtainable. The pursuit of knocking off all the games for it was fun for me and even though I sold a good portion once Switch made owning Wii U software a waste of time, I still loved the memories I made at gamestop collecting the ones I was missing and how happy I was. Some games would be 5 to 10 for titles I needed and I hadn't seen that since PS2 days.
Least Fun Super Nintendo And PS1
They are just really too expensive. As for PS1 they have a black disc that shows any scratch like a hyrogliph of anyone who has ever so much as held it, and the clear glass like cases break easily making it hard to find good copies in the wild with books. Sometimes you find books with no games, games with no manuals or just neither and a clear case with a back in a pile of nothing. SNES labels seem to not stick as good as NES, the cartridges are capable of yellowing and paying 45 for the most common game for the console will never feel right to me. 2 of the greatest consoles ever ot play for but not collect for to me :)
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I have to agree on PS2 being my favorite, it's my childhood console and the game are readily available.
My least favorite is 100% the Gamecube. I've never been a big Nintendo fan and the games are really expensive.
What's funny is Gamecube used to be incredibly easy and cheap to collect for. I amassed 90% of my Gamecube collection when there was just a handful of $50+ dollar games. This was between probably 2009 and 2016. After that it got insanely expensive. The same can be said of N64 which also used to be way more affordable up until 5 or 6 years ago. And i guess if you really want to go back, SNES and NES were a lot easier to collect for from the late 90s up until the late 2000s. Unfortunaely I just caught the tail end of cheap and easy NES and SNES collecting because the getting was really good for a while; I know a guy who did a complete NES set in the 2000s including games like Stadium Events, Little Samson, and a bunch of the other heavy hitters he would just buy from flea markets and garage sales.
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Most fun:
Sega Saturn - Living in Japan, collecting for the Saturn has been lots of fun for over 10 years now. It seems no matter how much I research about this console, there's always something new to discover about it. Even better: with rare exceptions, most good Saturn games are still dirt cheap around here. And when I say "cheap", I really mean it! Like the equivalent to US$1.00〜US$5.00 or so.
Least fun:
Apple/Bandai Pippin - In my whole life I've only found ONE game for that piece of junk (and a pretty crappy one, by the way): Gundam Tactics: Mobility Fleet 0079. I have to say, the Pippin controller is way better than it looks though.
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At one point, I was collecting many game systems and games but with little to no extra space when I moved in with my girlfriend at the time (now wife), I decided to sell off most of my collection and only keep my absolute favorites. I'll still occasionally pick up a PS1 game from time to time but I did have fun collecting for it back in the day.
My least favorite to collect for was probably my Game Gear but it's not the system's library fault. I think due to times changing and retro game stores becoming scarce with online being the primary resource... it took a lot of fun out of collecting. Half the fun was going into the physical stores and looking at the items on the shelves to see what there was. Now it would seem that most games are too hard to find in the limited physical store locations and overly pricey online.
My days of regularly collecting retro games are over though I may pick one up from time to time.
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Most fun: Sega Genesis
I had once decided to try to get all of the games, which turned into including variations. That led to having to determine all of the differences in boxes and carts and the cart stampings or whatever else. Going out to a store and looking at all the copies of something to find that one version I didn't have yet was pretty fun.
Least fun: Sega Master System
This is one situation that wasn't fun because it was almost impossible to ever find anything that wasn't a "Great" sports title or Parlor Games. It wasn't like I could find things but they were expensive, it was the opposite, just not finding anything.
Transitionary fun: Sega Saturn
I wanted to put this on here because the Saturn fits into both situations. Like the Master System, collecting for Saturn had the same issue where I would never find any games that I didn't already have. And what I already had was mostly the sports games and VF/2, Fighting Vipers and the two main Daytona USA releases. I always knew that the Japanese games were cheap on Ebay but I didn't really get many of those because I couldn't play them. In fact, I had only purchased a few from Ebay because I knew they had different music and I could make MP3 or put them in a CD player. I had never been keen on doing the disc swap and never got around to getting an Action Replay cart.
Everything changed when I was able to get a Japanese Saturn at a good price. Then I was buying tons of Japanese games on Ebay. And to a point where I had decided that I needed to learn Japanese to play some of them. I love the fact that many games you buy from Japan still have the goodies that come with them, even some regular releases had stuff just like the Genteiban. Certainly not relatable to any US games in that regard. The only thing that put a halt to collecting Japanese Saturn was the pandemic.
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Favorite:PS2
Least Favorite:Wii
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It's a difficult one to answer, because for the most part I do have fond memories collecting for most of my platforms, otherwise I wouldn't have continued collecting for them.
For me, it's hard to deny the fun factor in collecting anything 7th gen and forward, just because it has always been so widely available and often discounted and that makes collecting more fun to me. Then again, when I got into collecting, a lot of classic Nintendo platforms were also widely available and heavily discounted. On the other hand, I never had a lot of fun collecting any SEGA platform because I struggled to find them, and when I did, it was either junk or priced higher than I wanted, and that goes for Master System, Genesis, Saturn and Dreamcast. It was just hard to collect these and very gradual, over the years picking games off one by and one and usually paying top dollar for the titles I wanted. That's less fun to me.
So as for right now I will say -
Favorite - Xbox 360. It was always so easy to find the titles I wanted, and pick them up for a thrifty price. Even now, it's a breeze to do whenever I decide I want to add another to the library. I even have my pick of condition, so that if I want all my games to be fresh and mint I'll hold off for that pristine copy, no problem.
Least favorite - Genesis. It's always been a headache to find the titles I actually wanted to pick up. Sure, finding Genesis games isn't all that hard, but find titles other than commons and shovelware is extremely difficult in most of those instances. You see a lot of the same crap, over and over. Like Combat plagues Atari 2600, you spot a Shaq Fu and a Desert Strike all the time, but you'll never come across an Outrun, or an Alex Kid, or Mystic Defender or something that's actually desirable. My Genesis collection has probably averaged 2 to 3 additions per year since I began collecting because I generally don't pick up Gen titles online. Instead, I roll the dice with game hunting and usually find nothing notable.
Lots of people will say Saturn, generally because of price. That doesn't completely kill it for me, because I have such a fascination with the titles available on the system. I kind have a respect for the fact that they're genuinely hard to find, very popular, and very expensive for that reason. Same deal with Jaguar collecting. It's like pulling teeth, but still satisfying in a way.
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Least favorite - Genesis. It's always been a headache to find the titles I actually wanted to pick up. Sure, finding Genesis games isn't all that hard, but find titles other than commons and shovelware is extremely difficult in most of those instances. You see a lot of the same crap, over and over. Like Combat plagues Atari 2600, you spot a Shaq Fu and a Desert Strike all the time, but you'll never come across an Outrun, or an Alex Kid, or Mystic Defender or something that's actually desirable. My Genesis collection has probably averaged 2 to 3 additions per year since I began collecting because I generally don't pick up Gen titles online. Instead, I roll the dice with game hunting and usually find nothing notable.
That's unfortunate thought genesis sold the best in the states and prices where also pretty cheap and less people after sega for the good stuff years ago. Recent years it's quite competitve but if you started early and it was a tough experience, that's some bad luck I guess. years ago it was definitely one of the more easy consoles to get into collecting wise since most people focussed on just Nintendo. far far easier than snes and just overall quite cheap.
You still got a pretty nice genesis collection at the end of the day though.
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Favorite: Game Boy series (more so the original and Color games)
While a lot of the GB's library can be crap, their are still plenty of fun little bit sized games to be found and played that don't command Pokemon prices. While the GBA is one of my favorite consoles, I struggle way more finding games for that console that interest me; like 90% of the GBA games I run into are licensed games that I'm fairly sure aren't very good.
Least Favorite: WonderSwan
Language barrier is a hug issue with a majority of the games on this handheld for me thanks to a most of the library being RPGs or text heavy. At least it has a Picross game on it which I would like to get someday since I love nonograms.
I could also add the Game Gear to least favorite, but I'm super indifferent towards the console. If Sega ever made a Super Game Boy equivalent for the Genesis/Mega Drive so you could play Game Gear games on a TV, I'm sure I would be far more interested in playing games for the system. I'm a little surprised they didn't since Sega had the power base converter to play Master System games on the Genesis/Mega Drive and the Game Gear is more or less a Master System but with a slightly higher color pallet.
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Most fun: Nintendo DS - Lots of hidden gems on this handheld. Probably in my top 3 favorite consoles of all time. I collected a lot of DS titles before the prices skyrocketed, so now I'm kind of bummed I didn't get everything I wanted but I still buy games here and there. Also not to mention collecting DS system variants is fun too. Not as hard to come by as GBA and not as pricey as 3DS.
Least fun: GBA - So I got a bunch of these when they were easy to find and less expensive but like an idiot I sold a lot of them when prices started going up. As usual, I regretted it and have been trying to get a lot of my favorites back, Not only have the prices skyrocketed but I've never had such a ridiculously hard time with any other console or handheld finding games that were actually authentic. All GBA systems seem to be aftermarket refurbished and a majority of the games seem to be fakes from China. This seriously dampens my mood to collect for it. I don't want to shell out $100 on a game that isn't even real.
Runner-ups:
Second most fun: PS4 because it's easy and cheap and there is so much good stuff.
Second least fun: Sega Saturn, would be first place but I only had one for a couple months and decided it was basically impossible for me with my budget and straight-up not worth it.
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Most fun:
Original JP PS and its software/odd accessories and strange hardware in general.
3DO also is still quite fun.
Least fun collecting:
Xbox 360, getting anything in a “good condition” even going to Japanese region games, was a constant battle to get a good disc or even a game that the seller wasn’t lying about condition or even suprises like instructions seem ok, and once opening missing pages or even veery worn out or “humidity smell” on them. Quite difficult to get things that are known as “region free” which idc as I have JP & PAL systems myself, but in the end gave up and got my elite 360 just RGH and sold most of the stuff to pay for that mod itself, quite hard. And...
- Game gear
- SuperGrafx
- GP32
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Pretty suprised to see some cheap console libraries as being the least fun to collect for.
But hey everyone has a different experience when they are collecting.
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Most fun: Genesis/Mega Drive games;
Least fun: PS2 games
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Pretty suprised to see some cheap console libraries as being the least fun to collect for.
But hey everyone has a different experience when they are collecting.
I wonder if people are misinterpreting the question as what is the favorite and least favorite console you have in your collection, rather than what console did you have the most and least fun collecting for. I guess I can partially understand how someone might be frustrated about PS2 collecting now versus 5+ years ago, but otherwise it seems like a strange pick. Same with saying 2600 or original XBOX is your least favorite.
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Pretty suprised to see some cheap console libraries as being the least fun to collect for.
But hey everyone has a different experience when they are collecting.
I wonder if people are misinterpreting the question as what is the favorite and least favorite console you have in your collection, rather than what console did you have the most and least fun collecting for. I guess I can partially understand how someone might be frustrated about PS2 collecting now versus 5+ years ago, but otherwise it seems like a strange pick. Same with saying 2600 or original XBOX is your least favorite.
If there is almost zero interest in the library I'd say it's definitely a viable reason. Atari 2600 is unplayable for most so even if the games are cheap if the games aren't fun for that person, collecting for it might not give someone much satisfaction. although at that point someone might not even start collecting for it thus preventing the console from being in their list.
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If there is almost zero interest in the library I'd say it's definitely a viable reason. Atari 2600 is unplayable for most so even if the games are cheap if the games aren't fun for that person, collecting for it might not give someone much satisfaction. although at that point someone might not even start collecting for it thus preventing the console from being in their list.
That's what makes 2600 fun for me, it's collecting the games that are playable
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Back in it's day, the Nintendo DS was also really fun to collect for. Everybody wrote it off as a gimmicky kids handheld and payed no mind towards what it had to offer aside from Mario and Pokemon. You could walk in GS and find some really random, but cool looking exclusives for relatively cheap every week. For example the now highly coveted "Little Red Riding Hood Zombie BBQ" was a game I picked up one day at GS for maybe $10. Now it's looked at as a holy grail. But there were a lot of games like that for DS, and it was fun discovering them, and picking them up when they were still very thrifty.
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Sega Genesis used to be really fun to collect for. You used to find all kinds of unique exclusive stuff that isn't on any other consoles for cheap, because everybody else cared about PlayStation and Nintendo only. But now good luck with finding any decent games that are already on a Sega compilation for cheap
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While sega genesis was definitely easy.
I'd argue ps1 and ps2 where even easier. ps1 rpg's I'd guess where kinda sought after even back than but that was a mere fraction of ps1 collecting and only if collectors where selling specific rpg titles, sets with cool stuff where really easy to score including those kinda titles and it was only a subsection of those rpg's. even ps1 collecting was not competitive at all.
Ps1 and especially ps2 have had a slightly later surge of interest compared to the sega genesis I'd say.
Years ago nintendo collecting was definitely competitive while sega not really. But I wouldn't put ps1 or ps2 into that Nintendo category either because even though there where sought after titles it definitely was mostly ignored in terms of sets and actual deals in wich it made the latter a non issue. and for ps2 especially there was definitely not much going on. Every console had it's valuable titles when cherry picked and sold by collectors. but if you where actually hunting for deals there was plenty to go around.
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Back in it's day, the Nintendo DS was also really fun to collect for. Everybody wrote it off as a gimmicky kids handheld and payed no mind towards what it had to offer aside from Mario and Pokemon. You could walk in GS and find some really random, but cool looking exclusives for relatively cheap every week. For example the now highly coveted "Little Red Riding Hood Zombie BBQ" was a game I picked up one day at GS for maybe $10. Now it's looked at as a holy grail. But there were a lot of games like that for DS, and it was fun discovering them, and picking them up when they were still very thrifty.
I had a super good run for a few years while collecting DS games. I'm not the biggest handheld gamer, but I was finding all these cool, obscure titles for the DS for dirt cheap for several years. Some of it was checking Gamestop's inventory for select games, a lot of it was just finding them for a few bucks at 2nd hand media stores, and then some of it was also independent game stores just pricing games to move them. I got Zombie BBQ, My World, My Way, Avalon Code, and a bunch of other heavy hitters for super cheap 5 or 6 years ago. It blows my mind to see what some of it is selling for now.
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Sega Genesis used to be really fun to collect for. You used to find all kinds of unique exclusive stuff that isn't on any other consoles for cheap, because everybody else cared about PlayStation and Nintendo only. But now good luck with finding any decent games that are already on a Sega compilation for cheap
I remember this too; it seems like while everyone wanted NES and SNES games the Genesis was just sitting in the corner like, "what about me?" I grabbed quite a few Genesis games that are now fairly desirable and expensive back then, but I really wish I'd grabbed more. There was an independent game store about an hour from me in the early 2010s that had walls and walls of cheap Genesis titles, many with the original cases. We're talking lots of the shooters, a bunch of the harder to find platformers and actions games, and a slew of other uncommon and rare titles. I think the most he had any of them at was probably $40, and that was for stuff like Hyperstone Heist or Gunstar Heroes. I grabbed a decent about of his Genesis games, but looking back I wish I'd grabbed way more. There's no way in hell I'll ever see that selection again and for those prices. Live and learn I guess.
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Genesis got pricy because tons of youtubers said that it was the 2nd best thing or simular to snes while still being cheap in comparison
When that gets said everytime for years eventually prices go up and finding deals for it got harder.
I remember how I bought 7 sega megadrive games from an old lady for 40$. wich is how I got the entire streets of rage trilogy in one go plus mega turrican all cib. even back than the shinobi III paid back for the lot. not the best deal I've ever had but as my 2nd or 3rd deal it was a pretty fun start to megadrive collecting. Collecting with allot of these consoles was quite easy to get into. you'd get a decent collection quite early on with the good stuff.
still if where talking 5+ years back even collectors where giving titles away. I remember a collector selling 50+ genesis games for literally only 5$ each all cib, and where talking good stuff like truxton phelios second samurai and all kinds of obsecure stuff but also some regular stuff like golden axe series shinobi etc. I got like 20+ awesome titles for cheap back than in one deal. I got quite a bit of stuff for other consoles aswell from this same guy. or how a collector literally accepted my troll offer for titles like panzer dragoon saga wich I can't believe considering the guy showed me pictures of his collection you'd think the guy didn't know what he had :o
It wasn't just regular folks for cheap deals even collectors just wanted to get rid of it to make space. from these same people anything N64 snes etc usually had market prices though it's quite odd. they just had the assumption that anything sega had almost no value, or my speculation that's what they probably paid when they got those titles and just didn't bother with giving it another price.
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I'd probably have to say my favourites were the libaries i completed over the years : pal master system, jpn neo geo pocket, jpn neo geo cd, (retail) pc engine, jpn game gear, nec pc-fx, jpn N64.
Because i don't really have to buy anything for them anymore.
But probably the pick off the bunch would be pal master system even if it was just for the community of collectors, we all knew each other and helped each other with games we found at fleamarkets or whatever someone found a spare copy off. There wasen't really any jaleousy like there seems to be amongs collectors these days. After i completed my set i moved on towards collecting japanese region stuff and never looked back.
most fun these days is that i'm all about completing my jpn xbox and 360 collections, i've been getting some amazing deals here and there and bar the populair games i don't really have much competition when i bid on yahoo japan anyway. Sadly i don't know off anyone chasing the same goal as me so can't really exchange toughts and whatnot.
Least fun : i can't really think off anything, sure i have some stuff where i think what was i thinking for buying that. Whenever i feel like collecting becomes a chore i take a break and move onto something else for a while.
While on the subject of least fun surely ps4 and switch have to take spot, with companies pumping "limited" releases left and right week in week out, unless your loaded nobody can keep up with those systems and even then it seems impossible because there seem to be so much releases each week to even know off everithing being released.
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While on the subject of least fun surely ps4 and switch have to take spot, with companies pumping "limited" releases left and right week in week out, unless your loaded nobody can keep up with those systems and even then it seems impossible because there seem to be so much releases each week to even know off everithing being released.
I would like to comment on this and actually agree with you on this point. While LRG started something awesome by making some digital only games physical, it's gotten to be a massive dump of shovelware lately. It was far and away the reason I gave up going for a full PS4 set.
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You can also not go for a full set, sure they pump out a ton of shovelware, but you can also just get the releases that you actually want to play.
Don't feel forced to buy everything just get what your interested in. withouth these kinda companies titles like blazing chrome or bloodstained would not have had physical releases.
I get that they are pumping out a crap of stuff and sure if you have to get everything it's hard to keep up, but I personally don't see a big issue with this for most people who are interested to get physical games. Don't have the mentality to get everything that wasn't the intention of these kinda companies in the first place.
There is always some demand for the titles that they are releasing. It's also not actual shovelware compared to a majority of wii and ps2 (or any other console) games to name some example there will always be some people that enjoy those games, because they are usually interesting titles but perhaps not the kinda stuff that everyone is into. Them releasing more stuff is better than just select releases. because if you release more you get the good and the more niche stuff. you satisfy more people this way. The only ones that you might exclude are full set collectors however with this method way higher odds for a game that you like, to have a physical release instead of just a few select of the very best indi titles.
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You can also not go for a full set.
It's also not actual shovelware compared to a majority of wii and ps2 (or any other console) games.
I was going for a full PS4 set originally. All the limited games out there made it just so much effort.
And yes, its shovelware. Some of the games lately have been worse than crap on the 2600. I couldnt care less than they are considered "Indie" or not. When Tom Happ can make a masterpiece such as Axiom Verge by himself, seeing the junk that is being put out there by a full on staff is sad.
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I think that every console is fun to collect, especially the most easy to encounter in my region.
The least fun are these with most difficult to see around, like Neo Geo Pocket, Wonderswan and complete GBA Games.
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What even counts as a "full set" anymore with modern systems? Does LGR count? Does all 50 of the copycat start-ups doing the same thing count? If I'd invest a bunch of money into a license to print physical copies of some indie game and start shipping them from my basement, does that become part of the "full set"?
I don't do that type of collecting, but if I did I don't think I'd count the physical game cottage industry as being an intergral part of that goal.
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What even counts as a "full set" anymore with modern systems? Does LGR count? Does all 50 of the copycat start-ups doing the same thing count? If I'd invest a bunch of money into a license to print physical copies of some indie game and start shipping them from my basement, does that become part of the "full set"?
I don't do that type of collecting, but if I did I don't think I'd count the physical game cottage industry as being an intergral part of that goal.
I guess technically it means every game released for a console ever. This is includes official releases, small independent releases, homebrews, bootlegs, and everything in between. Obviously this is an insane undertaking and very few have actually been able to accomplish it on certain consoles. I had a friend who was going for a full NES set and upon realizing he'd have to drop over a grand on crap like Cheetahmen 2 or Caltron 6 in 1 he said screw it and just went for licensed releases as his "full set."
As for the PS4, I think it will go down as one of the most interesting modern console libraries, however I do not envy anyone going for a full set because of all the Limited Run type releases as well as a decent chunk of games that were only releases through the publishers website like Ikaruga. It will be an insane feat for someone to do it, but you know eventually someone will. There are a ton of PS4 games I'd like to buy at one point, but this is a curated list of games I would like to play someday. I never understood the appeal of full set collecting, mostly because you're throwing a ton of money away of annual sports titles, shovelware, and just games you have no interest in. The only console I ever for a second considered going for a full set for is the NTSC/US Dreamcast given my love for it and its relatively small library of games. One day I had the chance to buy some sports titles I needed for about $2 each. Even at $2 I struggled to purchase them and ended up passing on them and any plans to ever go for a full set.
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What even counts as a "full set" anymore with modern systems? Does LGR count? Does all 50 of the copycat start-ups doing the same thing count? If I'd invest a bunch of money into a license to print physical copies of some indie game and start shipping them from my basement, does that become part of the "full set"?
I don't do that type of collecting, but if I did I don't think I'd count the physical game cottage industry as being an intergral part of that goal.
I guess technically it means every game released for a console ever. This is includes official releases, small independent releases, homebrews, bootlegs, and everything in between. Obviously this is an insane undertaking and very few have actually been able to accomplish it on certain consoles. I had a friend who was going for a full NES set and upon realizing he'd have to drop over a grand on crap like Cheetahmen 2 or Caltron 6 in 1 he said screw it and just went for licensed releases as his "full set."
As for the PS4, I think it will go down as one of the most interesting modern console libraries, however I do not envy anyone going for a full set because of all the Limited Run type releases as well as a decent chunk of games that were only releases through the publishers website like Ikaruga. It will be an insane feat for someone to do it, but you know eventually someone will. There are a ton of PS4 games I'd like to buy at one point, but this is a curated list of games I would like to play someday. I never understood the appeal of full set collecting, mostly because you're throwing a ton of money away of annual sports titles, shovelware, and just games you have no interest in. The only console I ever for a second considered going for a full set for is the NTSC/US Dreamcast given my love for it and its relatively small library of games. One day I had the chance to buy some sports titles I needed for about $2 each. Even at $2 I struggled to purchase them and ended up passing on them and any plans to ever go for a full set.
releases from companies such as limited run games are however official releases this ain't the same stuff as action 51 cheetaman caultron bible games etc etc. These are not offbrand unoffical/ pirated bootleg releases. They had to ask permission from the actual developers aswell plus a share in the profits. plus where also talking retro titles with bigger brand names such as Castlevania. or rerelases of older starwars titles wich are classics on say the OG xbox or titles such as panzer dragoon just to name some examples.
Companies such as limited run are in the first tier alongside releases from sony themselves. unless you'd seperate triple A games with lesser budget games. It is however fairly easy to seperate but how far would one go is the question, are other smaller companies with just a few phsyical game releases in this tier aswell?
we can't compare this to atari days in wich someone in his basement made 10 to 100 copies of 1 game in their garage. It's usually a couple thousand copies at least with only fewer numbers for the collectors editions wich still are usually in the couple thousand copies range. not to mention that limited run games has releases that far exceed the 10K copy limit of games such as panzer dragoon saga wich is considered part of a sega saturn full set.
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What even counts as a "full set" anymore with modern systems? Does LGR count? Does all 50 of the copycat start-ups doing the same thing count? If I'd invest a bunch of money into a license to print physical copies of some indie game and start shipping them from my basement, does that become part of the "full set"?
I don't do that type of collecting, but if I did I don't think I'd count the physical game cottage industry as being an intergral part of that goal.
I guess technically it means every game released for a console ever. This is includes official releases, small independent releases, homebrews, bootlegs, and everything in between. Obviously this is an insane undertaking and very few have actually been able to accomplish it on certain consoles. I had a friend who was going for a full NES set and upon realizing he'd have to drop over a grand on crap like Cheetahmen 2 or Caltron 6 in 1 he said screw it and just went for licensed releases as his "full set."
As for the PS4, I think it will go down as one of the most interesting modern console libraries, however I do not envy anyone going for a full set because of all the Limited Run type releases as well as a decent chunk of games that were only releases through the publishers website like Ikaruga. It will be an insane feat for someone to do it, but you know eventually someone will. There are a ton of PS4 games I'd like to buy at one point, but this is a curated list of games I would like to play someday. I never understood the appeal of full set collecting, mostly because you're throwing a ton of money away of annual sports titles, shovelware, and just games you have no interest in. The only console I ever for a second considered going for a full set for is the NTSC/US Dreamcast given my love for it and its relatively small library of games. One day I had the chance to buy some sports titles I needed for about $2 each. Even at $2 I struggled to purchase them and ended up passing on them and any plans to ever go for a full set.
Yeah I like just having the stuff that I wanna play, and that alone already maximizes the capacity of all five of my floor to ceiling game shelves as it is, ridiculous as that sounds. If I sold my collection of JRPGs I could free a bit of space for each system. That's a type of game that I thought I was interested to play at one time, but realized that I'm not. Save for just a handful of series like Tales, maybe Final Fantasy, and few one-offs.
I attempted a Wii U set once, fell short of a few hundred dollar a piece shovelware games, gave up and purged all of the trash out of my Wii U collection. I'm still left with the shameful memories of spending a day, going around to various shops and buying shovelware crap all day. It was regrettable.
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we can't compare this to atari days in wich someone in his basement made 10 to 100 copies of 1 game in their garage. It's usually a couple thousand copies at least with only fewer numbers for the collectors editions wich still are usually in the couple thousand copies range. not to mention that limited run games has releases that far exceed the 10K copy limit of games such as panzer dragoon saga wich is considered part of a sega saturn full set.
How different are they, really? If we could physically see the operations of LRG, would it just be a few dudes running out of a small rented office building? How many of their competitors are probably literally doing the same from a basement? Do those count? Because now there's a bunch of people doing the same business model. Back in the 2600 days there were independently owned toy stores that would contract people with programming skills to make a 2600 game for them to sell in their store. They might have sold 1000, maybe 500, or maybe just 100. Some people consider that stuff part of the 2600 set.
If I was going for a full set, all that would count would be games which made their way through reputable retail venues, as a product that anyone could buy upon release. Not just those in the know of it's release date, with a pre-order requirement direct from manufacture to consumer. To me, it's not really a proper retail game. Gets into that grey area of being more of a novelty item.
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we can't compare this to atari days in wich someone in his basement made 10 to 100 copies of 1 game in their garage. It's usually a couple thousand copies at least with only fewer numbers for the collectors editions wich still are usually in the couple thousand copies range. not to mention that limited run games has releases that far exceed the 10K copy limit of games such as panzer dragoon saga wich is considered part of a sega saturn full set.
How different are they, really? If we could physically see the operations of LRG, would it just be a few dudes running out of a small rented office building? How many of their competitors are probably literally doing the same from a basement? Do those count? Because now there's a bunch of people doing the same business model. Back in the 2600 days there were independently owned toy stores that would contract people with programming skills to make a 2600 game for them to sell in their store. They might have sold 1000, maybe 500, or maybe just 100. Some people consider that stuff part of the 2600 set.
If I was going for a full set, all that would count would be games which made their way through reputable retail venues, as a product that anyone could buy upon release. Not just those in the know of it's release date, with a pre-order requirement direct from manufacture to consumer. To me, it's not really a proper retail game. Gets into that grey area of being more of a novelty item.
so your saying that the discs art work etc are all house made withouth any help of 3rd parties?
I find that hard to believe plus the volume being at least a couple thousand minimum. plus I can't imagine them making their own switch carts. There's got to be some help from a factory with these amounts. If I had to guess The only thing that happens in these office building has got to be the shipping part, or at the very most just getting all the things together to complete a collectors edition when all products are already done. or fitting them cards with the normal releases. It's far to big to compare to those atari examples.
and again where also talking bigger brand names such as castlevania being in here not just indi titles. we also have bigger retro releases here wich where considered part of a full set on past consoles. plus the konami Brand. or what about the panzer dragoon remaster wich is an ip of sega.
I'll say this though your description is a nice way to seperate these kinds of games from the rest. At the very end of the day everyone is going to collect how they want, it doesn't really matter what other people think. multiple definitions of a ps4 official full set will exist
also I'm fairly sure limited run had amazon releases of same games but with a different cover. not for all games but for a smaller selection
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we can't compare this to atari days in wich someone in his basement made 10 to 100 copies of 1 game in their garage. It's usually a couple thousand copies at least with only fewer numbers for the collectors editions wich still are usually in the couple thousand copies range. not to mention that limited run games has releases that far exceed the 10K copy limit of games such as panzer dragoon saga wich is considered part of a sega saturn full set.
How different are they, really? If we could physically see the operations of LRG, would it just be a few dudes running out of a small rented office building? How many of their competitors are probably literally doing the same from a basement? Do those count? Because now there's a bunch of people doing the same business model. Back in the 2600 days there were independently owned toy stores that would contract people with programming skills to make a 2600 game for them to sell in their store. They might have sold 1000, maybe 500, or maybe just 100. Some people consider that stuff part of the 2600 set.
If I was going for a full set, all that would count would be games which made their way through reputable retail venues, as a product that anyone could buy upon release. Not just those in the know of it's release date, with a pre-order requirement direct from manufacture to consumer. To me, it's not really a proper retail game. Gets into that grey area of being more of a novelty item.
so your saying that the discs art work etc are all house made withouth any help of 3rd parties?
I find that hard to believe plus the volume being at least a couple thousand minimum. plus I can't imagine them making their own switch carts. There's got to be some help from a factory with these amounts. If I had to guess The only thing that happens in these office building has got to be the shipping part, or at the very most just getting all the things together to complete a collectors edition when all products are already done. or fitting them cards with the normal releases. It's far to big to compare to those atari examples.
and again where also talking bigger brand names such as castlevania being in here not just indi titles. we also have bigger retro releases here wich where considered part of a full set on past consoles. plus the konami Brand. or what about the panzer dragoon remaster wich is an ip of sega.
I'll say this though your description is a nice way to seperate these kinds of games from the rest. At the very end of the day everyone is going to collect how they want, it doesn't really matter what other people think. multiple definitions of a ps4 official full set will exist
also I'm fairly sure limited run had amazon releases of same games but with a different cover. not for all games but for a smaller selection
Yeah, it's even more grey for the grey area. LRG sells some of their games via retail now, at Best Buy. I guess those would count as retail games. However, a lot of these cottage industry types are usually not the rights holders for the games they're printing copies of, they're just licensed to sell copies of them. Most of the titles are releases which were already made available for download from the publisher.
You can buy all the supplies you need from Nintendo with a business license and cash to buy in bulk, and you can print little inserts and labels yourself, or have it done, no problem. That's partly why LRG use to print in such small quantities. 2000 was probably the smallest affordable investment for them to make in the supplies, since in manufacturing you can only buy in bulk amounts. They wanted to make damn sure they sold everything they purchased so they didn't go in the hole gambling on how much they'd be able to sell. They found their niche, they hyped a bunch of people on it, and they turned a predictable profit every single time with people manic to buy in that small window of time, as well as having scalpers there to ensure everything was sold each time.
It's a much bigger financial risk when you invest in a much larger amount of supplies, and one most of the LRG types will never take. They're riding on the novelty of having a "super limited" item to actually sell all of their investment so it works out. I'd imagine they're already are unhappy with the pre-order model because it means they need to order a certain bulk amount to fulfill that, and probably have some investment left over and unused. However, LRG has made such a name for themselves now with their following, they could probably just run a proper retail shop on their website and let people buy a la carte. I doubt they could go wrong at this point.
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If I sold my collection of JRPGs I could free a bit of space for each system. That's a type of game that I thought I was interested to play at one time, but realized that I'm not. Save for just a handful of series like Tales, maybe Final Fantasy, and few one-offs.
This was 100% me as well.
I was a late bloomer to the JRPG scene. A neighbor and friend of my brother's got me into FF7 around 2000 or so and I was totally blown away by it. I played most of the Final Fantasy games, both PS1 Lunar games (never beat either though), and a spattering of other PS1 and PS2 JRPGs during the early to mid 2000s. I got out of gaming briefly in the mid to late 2000s and when I got back into it and began collecting, JRPGs were at the very top of my want list. I pretty much bought any JRPG I could get my hands on, however after years of acquiring most of the very best in the genre released in the west between the SNES era to the modern era of gaming I realized I just wasn't the JRPG fan I used to be.
I did thoroughly enjoy playing Xenoblade and Chrono Trigger for the first time in recent years, however I quickly got bored with probably 80% of the JRPGs I tried playing. I eventually came to terms with the fact that I loved the idea of being a JRPG fan more than I was an actual JRPG fan. I've since sold a pretty good chunk of my JRPG collection, mostly on more modern consoles, but still. My wife is still big on the genre and is actually playing Tales of Arise as I type this lol. I hope someday I can get back into JRPGs like I used to be, but sadly I don't see that happening.
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I attempted a Wii U set once, fell short of a few hundred dollar a piece shovelware games, gave up and purged all of the trash out of my Wii U collection. I'm still left with the shameful memories of spending a day, going around to various shops and buying shovelware crap all day. It was regrettable.
I know a local collector that is actually going for a sealed Wii U set right now and I believe he's down to single digits in terms of what he needs to complete the set. It's literally all rare shovelware that is needed and probably the last 20 or so games he's needed have been shovelware as well. Beyond a good investment someday I can't even imagine doing a full set for that console or the Wii which is like 90% shovelware. It's hard to say what the future of Wii U collecting holds. Given the console was a flop and most of its best games have been ported to the Switch, it might just hold the distinction as that one Nintendo console very few people care about collecting for. Sure some will because, you know, Nintendo, but I have a feeling it will probably be one of the most underwhelming collecting scenes out there.