Name Some Currently Expensive Yet Common Retro Video Games

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turf:
Smash Bros. (Any iteration)
They all hold their value. There’s millions of N64 and Melee out there, but they’re still more than I like paying.

Warmsignal:
Pretty much any Nintendo franchise game, and the majority of the SNES library in general. It's the console with the sole most artificially inflated prices of all time. Everyone and their grandmother has a copy of Chrono Trigger, or Mega Man 7 sell you for $200. Much of SNES is like Sega Saturn prices for PS2 level quantities, or at least equivalents of that era. How that bubble doesn't pop, I don't know.

sworddude:

--- Quote from: Warmsignal on September 19, 2019, 11:17:47 pm ---Pretty much any Nintendo franchise game, and the majority of the SNES library in general. It's the console with the sole most artificially inflated prices of all time. Everyone and their grandmother has a copy of Chrono Trigger, or Mega Man 7 sell you for $200. Much of SNES is like Sega Saturn prices for PS2 level quantities, or at least equivalents of that era. How that bubble doesn't pop, I don't know.

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if crono trigger and megaman 7 where so "common" why don't you and a ton of older collectors did not find those for cheap back in the day also how the **** are prices that high if they where so common everyone would be happy and have these games in their pocket how are we in this situation right now ::) There are some who did but majority who did not and complain I find that kinda funny actually. I would love to have both sadly luck is not on my side. megaman 7 more rare in europe I hate it.

anyways let's take this example

panzer dragoon sold 5K copies and sells for 700ish according to price charting

earthbound sold 140ish k copies

however a lose cart sells for 170

and a cib sells for 700+

so the lose carts are already way lower in value. you could probably compare a lose cart of earthbound with some of the more sought after ps1 games as rarity say suikoden II wich hey ::) also sold 150K copies and goes for around 150ish http://www.vgchartz.com/game/4405/suikoden-ii/

suikoden II sold more copies than earthbound and also goes for 150ish $

and than we have nintendo cardboard cib. we all know what the rates are for cart vs cib. like 10 vs 1 20 vs 1 30 vs 1. it's bad best probs 10% of all copies are cib than you can take 50% of that for nice collectible examples

wich leaves you with roughly 7K collectible cib copies in other words bigger market interested in nintendo with only slightly more copies than panzer dragoon saga price difference not that bad anymore than. could be less cib copies btw

and you could argue that many panzer dragoon saga copies are lost. but I disagree since you had to pre order them back in the day so only hardcore people pre ordered them who usually take care of their stuff unlike with earthbound wich was most likely bought by a mom and dad for their kid in a bargain bin.

also it seems to me that 30K copies of panzer dragoon saga where released in the US not just 5K. so if were looking at cib copies for earthbound it might be more rare than panzer dragoon saga. and the lose carts where already way lower in value and could be compared to the sought after ps1 games wich roughly have the same quantities and price such as suikoden II

https://www.megavisionsmag.com/retrospective-panzer-dragoon-saga/

suikoden Ii already had such prices for years. and ps1 isnt that hyped even suikoden II for sure not as with snes. are the rare games on snes that overpriced if we would consider this?

lose carts are already in the same price range as some of the more sought after disc based games in those quantities and only the cib stuff goes for insane amounts but fair enough have way lower quantities compared with more rare stuff since there are so many more cart only copies everyone threw those boxes away.

Obviously there are more rare shitty games but that's not what where talking about. compared to other older systems doesnt seem that overpriced to me considering my arguments. obviously emulation and remasters for slightly more than a tenner are the issue for newcomers but those people are usually not the buyers for these kinds of things. but heck isnt that the case with all older collectibles?

i mean like it's not like your forced to buy original silver age comics when the exact same thing is reprinted for 5$ or less. those are way more insane than videogames. consideringen these go for thousands or hundreds of thousands. same goes for videogames you can just get a remaster or a download only or better emulation for free.

hoshichiri:

--- Quote from: Warmsignal on September 19, 2019, 11:17:47 pm ---Pretty much any Nintendo franchise game, and the majority of the SNES library in general. It's the console with the sole most artificially inflated prices of all time. Everyone and their grandmother has a copy of Chrono Trigger, or Mega Man 7 sell you for $200. Much of SNES is like Sega Saturn prices for PS2 level quantities, or at least equivalents of that era. How that bubble doesn't pop, I don't know.

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That's pretty simple: everybody who didn't keep their Nintendos back in the day, wants the Nintendo titles when they get bit by the nostalgia bug. They're a reliable seller, so the price doesn't go down. As for the SNES specifically, it's currently in the sweet spot of nostalgic love so it's getting a lot more attention right now. It's also quickly moving out of that spot as the people who grew up on SNES see their own kids getting too old to care about mom & dad's retro games anymore, and the people buying into their childhoods either complete that task to their satisfaction or quit caring.

Honestly I think we're overdue for a PlayStation bubble to hit, but Sony's dropped the ball HARD on capitalizing nostalgia & disc-based clone systems aren't yet a thing. The clone systems being the bigger deal- once anyone can go into a retro shop & get a working nouveau PlayStation with an HDMI hookup on the cheap, stuff's gonna change real quick!

I also don't think we'll ever see a proper bubble 'burst'- more of a deflation. There's a lot more dedicated retro collectors these days, all with different sized wallets. I suspect rather than a sudden drop as peole seek to offload inventory, we'll see a slow decline as people drop prices gradually, making a few sales with each drop as it hits prices collectors with varying budgets will pay.

Warmsignal:

--- Quote from: sworddude on September 20, 2019, 06:04:58 am ---
--- Quote from: Warmsignal on September 19, 2019, 11:17:47 pm ---Pretty much any Nintendo franchise game, and the majority of the SNES library in general. It's the console with the sole most artificially inflated prices of all time. Everyone and their grandmother has a copy of Chrono Trigger, or Mega Man 7 sell you for $200. Much of SNES is like Sega Saturn prices for PS2 level quantities, or at least equivalents of that era. How that bubble doesn't pop, I don't know.

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if crono trigger and megaman 7 where so "common" why don't you and a ton of older collectors did not find those for cheap back in the day also how the **** are prices that high if they where so common everyone would be happy and have these games in their pocket how are we in this situation right now ::) There are some who did but majority who did not and complain I find that kinda funny actually. I would love to have both sadly luck is not on my side. megaman 7 more rare in europe I hate it.

anyways let's take this example

panzer dragoon sold 5K copies and sells for 700ish according to price charting

earthbound sold 140ish k copies

however a lose cart sells for 170

and a cib sells for 700+

so the lose carts are already way lower in value. you could probably compare a lose cart of earthbound with some of the more sought after ps1 games as rarity say suikoden II wich hey ::) also sold 150K copies and goes for around 150ish http://www.vgchartz.com/game/4405/suikoden-ii/

suikoden II sold more copies than earthbound and also goes for 150ish $

and than we have nintendo cardboard cib. we all know what the rates are for cart vs cib. like 10 vs 1 20 vs 1 30 vs 1. it's bad best probs 10% of all copies are cib than you can take 50% of that for nice collectible examples

wich leaves you with roughly 7K collectible cib copies in other words bigger market interested in nintendo with only slightly more copies than panzer dragoon saga price difference not that bad anymore than. could be less cib copies btw

and you could argue that many panzer dragoon saga copies are lost. but I disagree since you had to pre order them back in the day so only hardcore people pre ordered them who usually take care of their stuff unlike with earthbound wich was most likely bought by a mom and dad for their kid in a bargain bin.

also it seems to me that 30K copies of panzer dragoon saga where released in the US not just 5K. so if were looking at cib copies for earthbound it might be more rare than panzer dragoon saga. and the lose carts where already way lower in value and could be compared to the sought after ps1 games wich roughly have the same quantities and price such as suikoden II

https://www.megavisionsmag.com/retrospective-panzer-dragoon-saga/

suikoden Ii already had such prices for years. and ps1 isnt that hyped even suikoden II for sure not as with snes. are the rare games on snes that overpriced if we would consider this?

lose carts are already in the same price range as some of the more sought after disc based games in those quantities and only the cib stuff goes for insane amounts but fair enough have way lower quantities compared with more rare stuff since there are so many more cart only copies everyone threw those boxes away.

Obviously there are more rare shitty games but that's not what where talking about. compared to other older systems doesnt seem that overpriced to me considering my arguments. obviously emulation and remasters for slightly more than a tenner are the issue for newcomers but those people are usually not the buyers for these kinds of things. but heck isnt that the case with all older collectibles?

i mean like it's not like your forced to buy original silver age comics when the exact same thing is reprinted for 5$ or less. those are way more insane than videogames. consideringen these go for thousands or hundreds of thousands. same goes for videogames you can just get a remaster or a download only or better emulation for free.

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They were readily available back in the day, and they still are. Lots of people have Mega Man 7 and Chrono Trigger. I personally don't want those titles because I have no passion for either series to be honest. In fact, I already own Chorno Trigger for DS though I've never felt compelled to play it. I also picked up the Mega Man on PS4 in case I felt the need to ever play those again. But everywhere I go, I see these carts for sale. The prices are that high because of the fandom and hype surrounding those series, a lot of people think those are some of the best games ever made, though I would highly disagree with that notion. Look at all the first 7 Mega Man games. All quite expensive, none of them truly rare, all of them basically the same thing. Chrono only entered the triple digit numbers over the past few years after being relatively affordable for many.

PDS, along with the other 1998 releases on Saturn are the exceptions, not the rule for Saturn rarity. I'm drawing a parallel more on the general prices for "common" Saturn games, which still command pretty hefty prices (as they should, they technically all bombed in sales), to SNES games which are on average much more plentiful than any Saturn game, commanding similar prices. For example, Nights Into Dreams - fairly common by Saturn standards and roughly a $40 game. Contra III, quite common SNES game, roughly a $35 - $40 game. Both fairly popular titles on each platform. I'd wager way more copies of Contra III were printed compared to Nights, and yet prices are very similar. Hence how I conclude SNES is Saturn prices for PS2 level quantities. It's the most inflated prices of any mainstream successful console.

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