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Warmsignal:

--- Quote from: sworddude on September 22, 2019, 05:34:12 am ---
--- Quote from: Warmsignal on September 22, 2019, 12:59:44 am ---Right now I'd have to say my favorites are mostly the games I played as a kid.

Super Mario World
Super Mario Kart
Super Punch Out
Donkey Kong Country
Yoshi's Island
Sunset Riders
Faceball 2000

Make no mistake, I do think it's a very good system but even then, I think it's overrated. I feel like many killer app lists nowadays are somewhat embellished.

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can we really say that the snes is over rated considering that it's one of the few consoles with the best 16 bit games of it's era?

snes along with genesis are top picks thanks to there large library of them 16 bit games

what are your other options saturn or ps1 with their 32 bit games. admittedtly some excellent games there but a way smaller library since the focus was on 3d not 2d. even for saturn.

and than you have pc engine turbografx in wich the grapics are usually worse and games that look comparable or better than some above average snes games are very rare but same can be said for the snes in wich the highs are way better looking than even those pc engine games

the sound on pc engine it's lacking in comparison unless you have the cd rom option but that's like saturn teritory if cd options are included.

neo geo aes some great games on there but mostly 2d fighting games.

if your looking for 2d fighting games sure 32 bit way to go. but otherwise it's kinda hard to say that the snes is over rated since it has one of the biggest 16 bit libraries not to mention some of the best games released in the 16 bit era

sure you could fit in lookalike retro indi games of today with them modern day features implemented but even than i disagree not to mention were talking about retro consoles not modern ones.

even if we would only include the first party titles on snes super mario world yoshi's island link to the past super metroid for those reason alone it's kinda hard to say that the snes is over rated with such classics wich can not be found on any other retro console not to mention zelda and mario both being top quality series to this very day usually having the best games for the system.

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I was speaking more to the general popularity of the console compared to all other generations and consoles. Speaking strictly of 16 bit consoles, I still think it's a bit overrated while the Genesis/Mega Drive offers a very similar level of quality. However, due to SOA/SOE marketing strategy favoring sports and more mature content, the broader library of first party Sega games on it to this day remain somewhat obscure, while Nintendo's offerings were/are widely recognized. Gen is often written off entirely by those who grew up without playing one. While SNES is retroactively praised for the vast selection of J-RPGs, which IMO are (and certainly were back then) a niche genre in the west.

For the record, I would easily take any one of the original Sonic trilogy over Super Mario World. That's not to say I think Genesis is all around better, but in plenty of instances, I'd say it's a very close call. Yet SNES to this day is still praised like it's the definitive and only 16 bit console that matters.
mastodon:

--- Quote from: snyderec3 on September 21, 2019, 07:48:24 pm ---SNES is my favourite console of all time. It had some absolutely amazing games from every genre.

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sworddude:

--- Quote from: Warmsignal on September 22, 2019, 09:11:00 pm ---
--- Quote from: sworddude on September 22, 2019, 05:34:12 am ---
--- Quote from: Warmsignal on September 22, 2019, 12:59:44 am ---Right now I'd have to say my favorites are mostly the games I played as a kid.

Super Mario World
Super Mario Kart
Super Punch Out
Donkey Kong Country
Yoshi's Island
Sunset Riders
Faceball 2000

Make no mistake, I do think it's a very good system but even then, I think it's overrated. I feel like many killer app lists nowadays are somewhat embellished.

--- End quote ---

can we really say that the snes is over rated considering that it's one of the few consoles with the best 16 bit games of it's era?

snes along with genesis are top picks thanks to there large library of them 16 bit games

what are your other options saturn or ps1 with their 32 bit games. admittedtly some excellent games there but a way smaller library since the focus was on 3d not 2d. even for saturn.

and than you have pc engine turbografx in wich the grapics are usually worse and games that look comparable or better than some above average snes games are very rare but same can be said for the snes in wich the highs are way better looking than even those pc engine games

the sound on pc engine it's lacking in comparison unless you have the cd rom option but that's like saturn teritory if cd options are included.

neo geo aes some great games on there but mostly 2d fighting games.

if your looking for 2d fighting games sure 32 bit way to go. but otherwise it's kinda hard to say that the snes is over rated since it has one of the biggest 16 bit libraries not to mention some of the best games released in the 16 bit era

sure you could fit in lookalike retro indi games of today with them modern day features implemented but even than i disagree not to mention were talking about retro consoles not modern ones.

even if we would only include the first party titles on snes super mario world yoshi's island link to the past super metroid for those reason alone it's kinda hard to say that the snes is over rated with such classics wich can not be found on any other retro console not to mention zelda and mario both being top quality series to this very day usually having the best games for the system.

--- End quote ---

I was speaking more to the general popularity of the console compared to all other generations and consoles. Speaking strictly of 16 bit consoles, I still think it's a bit overrated while the Genesis/Mega Drive offers a very similar level of quality. However, due to SOA/SOE marketing strategy favoring sports and more mature content, the broader library of first party Sega games on it to this day remain somewhat obscure, while Nintendo's offerings were/are widely recognized. Gen is often written off entirely by those who grew up without playing one. While SNES is retroactively praised for the vast selection of J-RPGs, which IMO are (and certainly were back then) a niche genre in the west.

For the record, I would easily take any one of the original Sonic trilogy over Super Mario World. That's not to say I think Genesis is all around better, but in plenty of instances, I'd say it's a very close call. Yet SNES to this day is still praised like it's the definitive and only 16 bit console that matters.

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even only Sonic 1 vs mario world that's kinda interesting.

I love sega a ton more than the snes. but the sonic games while they are good they are not the best games on the system. if there is anything that is over rated it's them sonic games on the sega system. so many people that just say sonic only when they are thinking of sega that's all they care about.

also in my opinion comparing mario world to the sonic trilogy including the sonic & knuckles upgrade It's like comparing a ferrari to a used mediocre car seriously.

There is so much more content in super mario world also in terms of gameplay tons more replay value. and it's was a console released game aswell unlike sonic 3 wich was a late release to profit for them best grapics and stuff.

3.5 games vs 1 loses to mario world there is much love for mario world but for good reason. allot of people consider it to be the best mario game and that's quite heavy considering mario produces some of the best games out there to this day to still rank that game number 1. same goes for zelda on snes.

I highly doubt a sonic maker would see the same kinds of succes as mario maker. the replay value in them 2d mario games was endless. many secrets tons of lvl's. It's not like sega hasnt tried to make new sonic games in them classic styles but it just hasnt aged as well as mario world.

mario world ain't my favourite game on snes but i can see why it is near the top unlike sonic.

That's coming from someone who heavily prefers the genesis/ megadrive over the snes.

nothing against sonic them 16 bit trilogy games are very good but they are far from the best games on the system unlike mario world wich is near the top of the snes library.

I feel like people put sonic games in every top 10 becuase they try to compare it to mario and that it's sega's most only popular mascot that brought the 16 bit sega console tons of succes not to mention i do agree that the library of sega is way less known than nintendo's so sonic is kinda easy to fit on that list unlike them other titles.

it's just my opinion obviously I get that there are also a ton of people who prefer them sonic games over mario world i could see that.
98dgreen:
Yoshi's Island is better than Mario World.
Cartagia:
Counterpoint - Yoshi’s Island is one of the most over-praised games of all time, and isn’t that good.
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