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hoshichiri:
Depends on the console & the box itself... if the box was designed as an easy-access holder to be used during the game's life, they aren't hard to find. If it was mostly a conveyance for sale, not so much.

For the most part, cartridge boxes are hard to come by, since they weren't very necessary & took up a lot of space. Intellivision used a gatefold style box for most of their releases, so those are pretty common. Genesis/Master system boxes too, since they mostly took the form of plastic keepcases. Although oddly, Master system manuals are rare. Not sure what's up with that. Pre-DS & PSP portable boxes are the hardest to get, given how much easier it is to just take a few carts places instead of a bunch of boxes.

CD boxes are much easier to get, since all of them double as protection for the discs. Obviously some disc-only games are out there after people moved their collections into CD wallets to save space, but it's not nearly as common as with carts.

You can get boxes for everything, but it's usually extremely expensive. For example: Legend of Zelda on NES, as a cart, goes for 20 bucks or less. The cheapest boxed copy on Ebay right now is $50. It is not at all uncommon for empty boxes to be worth more than the actual game, becuase they're so much harder to come by. While box art is pretty, most people don't display it- it just goes into a shelf with the spine sticking out. That's a pretty big investment of money and space for something you won't really look at- so, most collectors don't bother.
sworddude:

--- Quote from: hoshichiri on December 13, 2019, 07:58:13 am ---Depends on the console & the box itself... if the box was designed as an easy-access holder to be used during the game's life, they aren't hard to find. If it was mostly a conveyance for sale, not so much.

For the most part, cartridge boxes are hard to come by, since they weren't very necessary & took up a lot of space.


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genesis boxes are just as big as nes or snes yet most still have them. I'd rather say that cardboard boxes are just a dumb idea to store your carts all the time it breaks down easily than something durable like hard plastic cases wich are used till this very day. cardboard boxes where meant to be thrown away not used like a dust cover like sega clamshells. cardboard boxes will break down in the hands of kids and even adults using it carefully while sega clamm shells will remain usable. dvd cases etc. could you imagine cardboard dvd boxes that would have been hell.

Also if where going by your method switch and ds and 3ds cases should be useless thrown out since a cardridge in those cases has a way smaller ratio than say snes n64 and especially nes with them boxes. I'd say modern day consoles have a way worse space ratio for them boxes. switch and ds being them biggest offenders.

nes snes and n64 have a 40 to 60% ratio as far as box cardridge ratio goes while switch is like literally a couple of % ratio. the boxes for switch should be way smaller same goes for ds and 3ds. or like neo geo aes literally 80% ratio in that case.
bikingjahuty:
When systems like the NES or N64 were new, most people didn't care about the box and usually tossed it like they would a box for an action figure or other toy. Very, very few people were thinking about collectability back then and were more focused on playing a hot, new game. Because of this finding CIB games has become pretty hard for most retro, cartridge-based games. In fact, in the case of a lot of retro games the box and/or manual are worth more than the actual game itself given how much more rare they are.


When games transitioned to CDs this problem definitely improved as CDs are pretty fragile and easily damaged, so the case was often seen as a necessity to keep the game in good, working condition.
sworddude:
i will say though that in them later collecting years

There are people who only collect the box (or manual in the case of especially disc based games) because it adds value not because it looks good. if boxes barely would add any value those people would not bother with cib.

back in earlier days the people who kept or collected it wanted to legitamitly have it because it looks nice. you barely had anyone who did it for value back than.

Have seen to many people who dont care about a box or manual but want it only because it's worth more with it.

or like people who where at first pleased that they found the carts from back than and didnt care about the boxes anyway. and yet when they find out that boxes are worth a ton suddenly care why they didnt keep it and need a box and manual to complete it. or collectors who where cart only for years and suddenly converted because it's worth more and find cart only worthless nowadays? Would they care if the boxes only added a couple $ of value you gotto wonder.


boxes have value because some people find it to look good. but in later years also people who are interested in it only because it adds value not because of the looks.

Not to sure how i feel about that personally kinda wonder how many people would care about cib if it would only ad little value to the item as far as manuals and boxes go. cib also has an effect on disc based games manuals in particular for that era.

and let's not get me started with sealed game collecting.
ferraroso:
1) What console are you talking about? In my case, I have almost all of my games complete with manual and in their respective original box. Well, except for Super Famicom and Nintendo 64, but the ones to blame are the people who owned Nintendo games in the 90's, not me...

2) I can bet you that every collector on this website would love to have their games complete in boxes. It's not like we don't appreciate them, it's just that the previous owner (or, in some cases, the child version of ourselves or our parents back then) didn't care about keeping them as much as we all here do now...
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