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| What games would you consider objectively some of the greatest ever made? |
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| dreama1:
--- Quote from: bikingjahuty on February 14, 2020, 04:47:01 pm --- --- Quote from: dreama1 on February 14, 2020, 03:07:24 pm --- --- Quote from: bikingjahuty on February 14, 2020, 01:53:00 pm ---The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Chrono Trigger Final Fantasy X Super Mario 64 Gran Turismo 4 Mario Kart 8 The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild Doom (1993 and 2016) --- End quote --- Artistic? --- End quote --- Overall in every way. --- End quote --- Did you read the description even? |
| marvelvscapcom2:
Story Red Dead Redemption 2 Gameplay Red Dead Redemption 2 Music Red Dead Redemption 2 |
| wolfen:
I'm just gonna list em, no categories. Wind Waker Super Mario Galaxy Breath of the Wild Red Dead Redemption The Last Guardian God of War(PS4) Dragon Quest XI Sonic Mania Skyrim The Binding of Isaac Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Super Mario Odyssey FEZ Nintendo Land (criminally underrated) |
| telly:
I don't think anything can be considered "objectively" the greatest. Everyone's greatest or favorite game is based on one's personal opinion or experience. Objective means "not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts". |
| dreama1:
--- Quote from: telly on February 17, 2020, 11:47:58 am ---I don't think anything can be considered "objectively" the greatest. Everyone's greatest or favorite game is based on one's personal opinion or experience. Objective means "not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts". --- End quote --- We have the greatest movies list of 100 or 250 or so spread out. Either chosen by professionals in the field or the public. Most of them come across as mostly consistent with minor overlap. Maybe you couldn't define something different among truly the best games. But it wouldn't be hard to see a clear difference among the bottom of the barrel to mediocre. Just like theres a measurable difference between someone with an IQ of 80 vs 120 or so but not much difference between 110 and 120 or so? Good and evil? Beauty? Truth and injustice? We have a loose idea of this no? Some vagueness sure but I think most could agree. https://letterboxd.com/momsaysitsok/list/r-truefilm-canon-complete-list/by/release-earliest/ https://letterboxd.com/top10ner/list/top10ners-1001-greatest-movies-of-all-time/page/2/ https://www.imdb.com/list/ls026336113/?st_dt=&mode=grid&page=3&ref_=ttls_vw_grd&sort=user_rating,desc https://letterboxd.com/mlofferosky/list/sight-and-sound-top-250-critics-list-2012/page/3/ https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/3hbiio/update_1001_greatest_movies_of_all_time_plus/ This one for books which is consistent and taught in schools, if it didn't have some objective quality they wouldn't bother teaching it as a classic? https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/18796.The_ACTUAL_100_Best_Novels_of_the_20th_Century It's pretty consistent. I believe there should be a list for video games in the coming decades that's more serious or with more consideration to a standard rather than a nostalgic kick. More scholarly. Something someone would study or want to be cultured with video games. We might be able to consider it a art form or more meaningful culture than disposable entertainment or degenerate forgettable activity one day. I'm getting older and prefer to find more meaning or beauty in games than something I'm just killing time with personally. But it's not invalid to do so or wrong to do so, and games are many things compared to books or movies as I said. So I really think artistic merit and design should be split with something purely gameplay based (i.e fun). Not that they cant be both or overlap. But if you just put them together you're going to be stuck in a situation where you have a game purely based on gameplay with either a trash storyline or none to speak vs something with serious narrative and dialogue exploring the human condition and soul vs a plumber chasing some princess eating mushrooms? It would be absurd to put them together on the same list. As you saw above he listed Red Dead Redemption in all 3 categorises. I wouldn't disagree it sounds accurate to me. |
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