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| hoshichiri:
--- Quote from: oldgamerz on March 19, 2020, 08:35:27 pm ---I just don't hear that many people mentioning the PS3 console in general. --- End quote --- I don't hear a lot on the 360 these days either. The Wii got a brief spike when the Eshop shut down, but it's largely quiet too. This generation has fallen into the 'dark era', as I think of it- too old to be 'last gen' (it's techincally the case, but with PS5/Series X looming, soon that won't be true anymore), but too new to be 'retro'. This also means it's prime time to be collecting for these... the next few years will see these games drop to absolute rock-bottom before they move into the 'retro' window and start coming back up as demand increases. Keep an eye on things! --- Quote from: emporerdragon on March 20, 2020, 06:12:12 am --- --- Quote from: weirdfeline on March 19, 2020, 02:49:15 pm ---It outsold the 360 so no. --- End quote --- Barely, and it took 6 years before PS3 lifetime sales overtook the 360's. And in the end, the 360 still sold about 20 million more consoles than the PS3 did in North America; What gave the PS3 the main lead was the fact that the xbox brand is a complete failure in the Japanese market. --- End quote --- This is important- the end numbers aren't as important as when the sales occurred for cultural impact. The 360 had a strong start & dominated most of the generation, so it gets the recognition in the mind of the people (Wii notwithstanding). You see something similar in the 16 bit era. Looking at the sales, you just assume Genesis was a footnote in Nintendo's march of success... but the system's timing in North America gave Sega a HUGE lead for the beginning of the 90s, so people remember a much closer race. Perspective is a funny thing. |
| tripredacus:
At the time of its release, and up until the the slim models were in stores, the PS3 was the cheapest consumer BD player on the market. Makes you wonder if Sony planned it that way, to get more people to buy PS3 when they just wanted a BD player. |
| wolff242:
--- Quote from: sworddude on March 20, 2020, 06:13:48 am --- --- Quote from: emporerdragon on March 20, 2020, 06:12:12 am --- --- Quote from: weirdfeline on March 19, 2020, 02:49:15 pm ---It outsold the 360 so no. --- End quote --- Barely, and it took 6 years before PS3 lifetime sales overtook the 360's. And in the end, the 360 still sold about 20 million more consoles than the PS3 did in North America; What gave the PS3 the main lead was the fact that the xbox brand is a complete failure in the Japanese market. --- End quote --- ps3 lost 300$ for every early ps3 console that they sold even if they sold a bit more profit wise ps3 was a shit show. xbox 360 probably did allot better in wich they did not sell consoles with such heavy losses they where really banking on game sales apprently, attracting consumers with lower console prices. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/gamesblog/2006/nov/17/sonylosescash I'm pretty sure nintendo is the only one who either breaks even per console sale or a small profit since microsoft and sony both lose money per sold console. sony however went a bit overboard during ps3 era. 300$ loss per console is just crazy. --- End quote --- You quoted a link from the PS3 launch....I'm sure it lessened quite a bit over the years. They even indicate MS sold every 360 at a loss as well. That is not proof that it was that way through their lifespan. |
| sworddude:
--- Quote from: wolff242 on March 20, 2020, 04:05:26 pm --- --- Quote from: sworddude on March 20, 2020, 06:13:48 am --- --- Quote from: emporerdragon on March 20, 2020, 06:12:12 am --- --- Quote from: weirdfeline on March 19, 2020, 02:49:15 pm ---It outsold the 360 so no. --- End quote --- Barely, and it took 6 years before PS3 lifetime sales overtook the 360's. And in the end, the 360 still sold about 20 million more consoles than the PS3 did in North America; What gave the PS3 the main lead was the fact that the xbox brand is a complete failure in the Japanese market. --- End quote --- ps3 lost 300$ for every early ps3 console that they sold even if they sold a bit more profit wise ps3 was a shit show. xbox 360 probably did allot better in wich they did not sell consoles with such heavy losses they where really banking on game sales apprently, attracting consumers with lower console prices. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/gamesblog/2006/nov/17/sonylosescash I'm pretty sure nintendo is the only one who either breaks even per console sale or a small profit since microsoft and sony both lose money per sold console. sony however went a bit overboard during ps3 era. 300$ loss per console is just crazy. --- End quote --- You quoted a link from the PS3 launch....I'm sure it lessened quite a bit over the years. They even indicate MS sold every 360 at a loss as well. That is not proof that it was that way through their lifespan. --- End quote --- it took them 4 years to break even. and the profits where not that hot after those times. ps3 did not do to well for sony also like i said xbox 360 had way less losses per console. they recouped their money way faster only around 100 $ for xbox 360 https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2010/06/29/playstation-3-is-finally-breaking-even/ it's also the only generation in wich sony wasn't the best selling console + them games Nintendo was king in wii ps3 xbox360 era |
| weirdfeline:
--- Quote from: sworddude on March 20, 2020, 06:13:48 am --- --- Quote from: emporerdragon on March 20, 2020, 06:12:12 am --- --- Quote from: weirdfeline on March 19, 2020, 02:49:15 pm ---It outsold the 360 so no. --- End quote --- Barely, and it took 6 years before PS3 lifetime sales overtook the 360's. And in the end, the 360 still sold about 20 million more consoles than the PS3 did in North America; What gave the PS3 the main lead was the fact that the xbox brand is a complete failure in the Japanese market. --- End quote --- ps3 lost 300$ for every early ps3 console that they sold even if they sold a bit more profit wise ps3 was a shit show. xbox 360 probably did allot better in wich they did not sell consoles with such heavy losses they where really banking on game sales apprently, attracting consumers with lower console prices. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/gamesblog/2006/nov/17/sonylosescash I'm pretty sure nintendo is the only one who either breaks even per console sale or a small profit since microsoft and sony both lose money per sold console. sony however went a bit overboard during ps3 era. 300$ loss per console is just crazy. --- End quote --- The Red Ring of Death cost Microsoft over a billion. |
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