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| burningdoom:
--- Quote from: Cartagia on September 10, 2020, 02:51:51 pm --- --- Quote from: burningdoom on September 10, 2020, 02:16:53 pm ---It is damn underrated in 2020, because so many of the kiddies that didn't grow up with it just look at it as "that crappy 3D graphics console". They don't understand the innovation that this console brought to the game. Everyone, companies big and little upstart companies, were experimenting with 3D graphics. Trying to find what worked, and what didn't. And that bred innovation on a level that we simply haven't seen since. Some of it worked, some of it didn't, but it was all very interesting and you were never bored. --- End quote --- In general, I don't think people are wrong to be critical of those old early 3D titles. Even the good ones are tough to look at these days. However, next to the comparable N64 the PS1 has a ton of titles that have aged like wine, because they weren't afraid to stick to older design paradigms. Rayman, Symphony of the Night and so many others are still terrific today. --- End quote --- Who cares how they look if they're fun |
| Cartagia:
--- Quote from: burningdoom on September 11, 2020, 12:54:48 pm --- --- Quote from: Cartagia on September 10, 2020, 02:51:51 pm --- --- Quote from: burningdoom on September 10, 2020, 02:16:53 pm ---It is damn underrated in 2020, because so many of the kiddies that didn't grow up with it just look at it as "that crappy 3D graphics console". They don't understand the innovation that this console brought to the game. Everyone, companies big and little upstart companies, were experimenting with 3D graphics. Trying to find what worked, and what didn't. And that bred innovation on a level that we simply haven't seen since. Some of it worked, some of it didn't, but it was all very interesting and you were never bored. --- End quote --- In general, I don't think people are wrong to be critical of those old early 3D titles. Even the good ones are tough to look at these days. However, next to the comparable N64 the PS1 has a ton of titles that have aged like wine, because they weren't afraid to stick to older design paradigms. Rayman, Symphony of the Night and so many others are still terrific today. --- End quote --- Who cares how they look if they're fun --- End quote --- I generally don't, but in addition to looks a lot of them have far more janky control schemes that what people are used to nowadays. Not a PSX title, but GoldenEye immediately springs to mind. And that's not to say that these are flaws, it was an experimental time, and most did the best they could with what they got. I'm just saying the PSX did a far better job of refining older looks and mechanics than the N64 ever did. And I say this as someone who never had a PSX back then. |
| sworddude:
--- Quote from: Cartagia on September 11, 2020, 01:01:40 pm --- --- Quote from: burningdoom on September 11, 2020, 12:54:48 pm --- --- Quote from: Cartagia on September 10, 2020, 02:51:51 pm --- --- Quote from: burningdoom on September 10, 2020, 02:16:53 pm ---It is damn underrated in 2020, because so many of the kiddies that didn't grow up with it just look at it as "that crappy 3D graphics console". They don't understand the innovation that this console brought to the game. Everyone, companies big and little upstart companies, were experimenting with 3D graphics. Trying to find what worked, and what didn't. And that bred innovation on a level that we simply haven't seen since. Some of it worked, some of it didn't, but it was all very interesting and you were never bored. --- End quote --- In general, I don't think people are wrong to be critical of those old early 3D titles. Even the good ones are tough to look at these days. However, next to the comparable N64 the PS1 has a ton of titles that have aged like wine, because they weren't afraid to stick to older design paradigms. Rayman, Symphony of the Night and so many others are still terrific today. --- End quote --- Who cares how they look if they're fun --- End quote --- I generally don't, but in addition to looks a lot of them have far more janky control schemes that what people are used to nowadays. Not a PSX title, but GoldenEye immediately springs to mind. And that's not to say that these are flaws, it was an experimental time, and most did the best they could with what they got. I'm just saying the PSX did a far better job of refining older looks and mechanics than the N64 ever did. And I say this as someone who never had a PSX back then. --- End quote --- on the other side of the spectrum 3d games like mario 64, ocarina of time majora's mask and starfox 64 are still fun to play and in all honesty more fun than most newer entries let alone at the time in the early 3d era. kinda hard to beat. games like ocarina of time or mario 64 where simply not possible on a ps1, it would be much slower paced on a ps1 console to keep up with them cd loading times. While 3d games on ps1 where great they didn't age as well as some of the n64 finest 3d titles. The n64 was the more powerfull console that allowed for more fluid gameplay in them 3d enviroments, ps1 was limited to load in small fractions at a time or had to trade in fluid gameplay for something more slow paced. Exceptions like crash bandicoot exist, but it is on a smaller more 2d esk scale in wich the game didn't have to load large chunk's of the area to keep the gameplay fluid aswell. and while spyro had bigger area's aswell it looked allot worse than them better 3d games on n64. There is a reason why the ps1 was so rpg heavy, rpg's while pretty in looks where pretty slow paced perfect for a console that could load in tons of details but lacks the speed for something fast like mario 64. Ps1 is also pretty poor with them multiplayer options, and usually just 2 player. N64 kinda remained uncontested in this department even with plenty of 4 player games. |
| burningdoom:
That's definitely a matter of opinion. I'm still not a fan of a lot of the N64 must-haves. And I'm a big Mario/Zelda/Metroid guy. I really enjoyed the FPSs on the system, more than anything. |
| sworddude:
If where talking popular 3d game series that has aged the most poorly the number 1 spot has to be tomb raider That series while impressive at the time really doesn't look to great these days. I have no complaints with early 3d ps1 games in terms of looks they look pretty interesting, but tomb raider is definitely one of those games on them early 3d consoles that looks pretty rough in terms of visuals. |
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