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| emporerdragon:
I'm currently replaying Mario 64 via the all stars collection and one of the biggest things I've noticed is how much I take camera controls for modern games for granted. It's such a small thing, but as a quality of life upgrade it is huge and noticeable when you don't have it anymore. |
| kamikazekeeg:
--- Quote from: emporerdragon on September 25, 2020, 12:33:14 am ---I'm currently replaying Mario 64 via the all stars collection and one of the biggest things I've noticed is how much I take camera controls for modern games for granted. It's such a small thing, but as a quality of life upgrade it is huge and noticeable when you don't have it anymore. --- End quote --- It's why I've wanted Nintendo to remake Super Mario 64 in the Odyssey engine. Basically just give it the Crash Bandicoot treatment along with adding some extra content, expand on a few things, really show Super Mario 64 the love it deserves rather than a kinda half-measure emulated port. |
| sworddude:
I guess I'm playing to many old games Camera controls in older 3d games never bothered me they where pretty fine if you know how to control them at those angles in wich it otherwise messes up. And yea sure the latter ain't needed in modern releases, for me personally after experiencing both plenty not really a must have QOL, it barely effects me. 64 indeed has fixed angles with button inputs wich where fine, but plenty of people complain about sunshine's camera aswell and that one has almost full control. Still, in terms of actual fun if where talking 3d platformers. It's kinda suprising that I personally have to go back to n64 ps1 era for good 3d platformers wich aren't 3d mario such as banjo , goemon also crash bandicoot never needs camera upgrades considering how it's more linear and at forced angles even in the originals. for the camera angle fix you'll probably need the spyro treatment I have way more fun with those than trash such as yookalele. Hat in time is finally a first in wich it's somewhat decent but I'd still rather play n64 platformers and ocassionally you have the good non nintendo stuff in crash and spyro. rayman 2 great escape again ps1 n64 era. Jak and daxter as a ps2 title was kinda a poor mans attempt at one didn't enjoy it to much. all things considered how allot of the best platformers wich aren't mario are on the n64 and ps1. I definitely take old school controls and less QOL if the actual fun factor stays. gameplay is king, QOL is a bad trade off if the game isn't that great in the first place. Speaking of good games with QOL as good as mario odyssey is and finally getting the concept of mario 64 right + different kinds of worlds. It has to many filler moons and even the bigger tasks except for a few feel really small. it's music in the already small challenge stages ain't the best either but that's a nitpick. For the fact that mario odyssey is pretty much bitsized challenges for almost the entire game, throwing out the most basic thing that 3d mario usually balanced so amazingly with memorable bigger tasks yet also exploration. I'd even rather play mario 64 over odyssey it's that much of a problem for me. Odyssey is basicly mario 64 withouth the bigger tasks and that's a big flaw. it ain't an exact copy as mario 64 in that deparment. The balance is more towards collecta ton. The balance in mario 64 and sunshine was way better. Galaxy 2 > galaxy 1 > sunshine > 64 > odyssey Ironicly botw has the exact same problem, all shrines can range from 30 seconds to a few minutes like legit. Even the divine beasts of wich there are only 4, each are 15 minutes tops, heck there was even one that took less than 5 minutes fully explored. The bird one I'm pretty sure. Only the final castle felt a bit big. and only the dlc saved it a bit for some bigger tasks. especially the challenge withouth items was great. Seriously though Nintendo literally had the idea for small puzzles and challenges for both mario and zelda with botw and odyssey for people to pick up and play and drop the game after a few shrines or moons I do not like that direction. I really hope they balance that a bit better with the next entries. Both games are great and I really like all the improvements but thanks to that mindset I can't rank them near the top. the older stuff is better in terms of fun for my taste. |
| oldgamerz:
post sum, I never got into any Mario video game, but I will someday, I'm sure of it. Super Mario 64 is in my opinion a hard game to get because of it's price. I never liked platformers and I never played any Mario game growing up, so I have no nostalgia for the series, and in my own experience I've bought entire consoles for the price of one loose used Mario video game. But at the Same time I want to like it, but I'm just too old now to like it as much as other games :( |
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