PSX Emulator Says That It Is Only Bad To Play PSX ROM's If Have No PlayStation?

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sworddude:

--- Quote from: oldgamerz on August 27, 2023, 08:33:45 am ---I have bought and have 6 PlayStation Consoles 2 PS3's and 3 PS2's. But finding MOST PS1, and PS2 games is IMPOSSIBLE in my area and there is NO WAY I can ever get a chance to play most old SONY PlayStation games ever unless I download ISO's. SO today I downloaded A famous PSX Emulator, then first I set it up to work with my Windows 10 PC, Then? a message comes on the screen that reads as follows

As Long As You Have A REAL SONY PlayStation Console in your possession YOU CAN use this special file to run ISO's on this emulator, legally. What is your opinion on this statement? could this be true that we no longer need to physical copy to legally own the ROM's for the PlayStation 1 "AS LONG AS WE OWN A REAL SONY PLAYSTAION CONSOLE" but no longer need to actual game?

Your thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated, because if this is true I think it is VARY fair

and best of all if WE are going to preserve the video game industry

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So here's the thing if you own the hardware or actual games your free to legally use said roms.

Than again it's almost pointless to emulate at that point for most people since the biggest hurdle is rarity and the prices of the original thing they would never get to play it otherwise. There are some other reasons to emulate even if you already own the item but it's miniscule in comparison to this very point.

Eitherway the emulator itselves is legal to use. It's the way how people use them, That being said companies aren't going after single users. It's only the people who put the roms out who are at risk and preferably of an actual notable game. No company is going to bat an eye over them niche games or games that don't really make money. Even Nintendo doesn't seem to give a shit like ip's such as advance wars or fire emblem.

--- Quote from: oldgamerz on August 27, 2023, 04:06:02 pm ---
--- Quote from: redblaze57 on August 27, 2023, 03:34:34 pm ---It's just there to protect the asses of the devs that's it. Just like all the writing in about sections on the emulators and their website saying how you can't use this emulator for retail purposes. You're just seeing something and looking way too much into it.

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I hate to be the one to say this but, I feel like I have been robbed by all the rich collectors? that took all of the games and left none left for people like me. all the while they sit in their massive game rooms with walls of 10,0000's games and consoles. and brag about it on YouTube.

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--- Quote from: oldgamerz on August 24, 2023, 12:14:35 am ---
One video game often has 100s of ways of playing the same game anything from unlockable, or custom content or controls, to mods, to hidden cheats and skins, pathways, difficulty settings to tweak able options etc including playing with other characters And multi-player. I hope VGCollect you can get this comment because some say you got 7000 games or more this comment is just reminding you just to be thankful for what's yours, and maybe try to explore the universe you already own. Like I struggle to do and I have less with about 5000 at estimation

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You said you had around 5000 games. Allot of the big retro youtubers don't even have 5K games nor do most folks on collecting sites such as these so by your own logic your robbing games from the average collector your part of the top % with such amounts ::)

empovyle:
What emulator did you download that tells you that message?

I do believe emulators are legal but the part that makes it illegal is the BIOS files, aka the files that actually make it operate like the real console. You are supposed to dump those files yourself using your own hardware. All PS1 emulators require you to obtain BIOS files before they will work properly, which is what I believe that message in your OP is referencing.

Same with ROMs, it is illegal to download or distribute ROMs, the way you are supposed to obtain them is by dumping them from real cartridges/discs. This is why no big companies have managed to strike down any emulators for copyright although I'm very sure they would love to. They aren't breaking any laws.

Now... are you going to get arrested or fined for downloading ROMs or BIOS files? Well, I think the police would rather go after the people who hosted the files first, before they go after you, unless you are bulk downloading a billion ROMs for some reason. Your ISP might catch you by monitoring your browsing history though. So you are probably safe to get some of the rarer games... but I don't recommend breaking the law. :)

enchantedworld:
As for the message you received on the PSX emulator, it's an interesting concept, isn't it? If it's indeed legit that owning a physical PlayStation console grants you the right to play ROMs on an emulator, that could be a game-changer. It might actually be a fair way to preserve these old gems for future generations. I'm not sure about the specifics of this "special file" and its legality, but it's certainly a topic worth exploring. And I also think that the future generation can try to install modern windows 10 key, and then games can run from different devices. It'd be great if it helps us keep these classic games alive and accessible.

oldgamerz:

--- Quote from: empovyle on August 28, 2023, 11:27:54 pm ---What emulator did you download that tells you that message?

I do believe emulators are legal but the part that makes it illegal is the BIOS files, aka the files that actually make it operate like the real console. You are supposed to dump those files yourself using your own hardware. All PS1 emulators require you to obtain BIOS files before they will work properly, which is what I believe that message in your OP is referencing.

Same with ROMs, it is illegal to download or distribute ROMs, the way you are supposed to obtain them is by dumping them from real cartridges/discs. This is why no big companies have managed to strike down any emulators for copyright although I'm very sure they would love to. They aren't breaking any laws.

Now... are you going to get arrested or fined for downloading ROMs or BIOS files? Well, I think the police would rather go after the people who hosted the files first, before they go after you, unless you are bulk downloading a billion ROMs for some reason. Your ISP might catch you by monitoring your browsing history though. So you are probably safe to get some of the rarer games... but I don't recommend breaking the law. :)

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I have multiple emulators and it's no secret but ePSXe told me the OP

I have a rule nothing +2004

OR is NOT found on this major emulation site with only a limited selection of PS2 games

Retro Arch is my primary emulator now, it offers more ways to play all old games more ways then even the original console ever could including online

oldgamerz:
@ sworddude i am no longer picking up games currently No stock

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