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| So what are our thoughts on Pokemon FireRed and LeafGreen coming bacc? |
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| sworddude:
--- Quote from: marvelvscapcom2 on March 09, 2026, 11:16:15 pm --- --- Quote from: bikingjahuty on March 05, 2026, 10:35:39 am --- --- Quote from: sworddude on February 24, 2026, 06:41:13 am --- --- Quote from: bikingjahuty on February 23, 2026, 10:45:10 am --- but unless they're over $100 loose, I'd say you might as well just get the physical cart and skip the digital copy. --- End quote --- so unironicly they are over a 100$ each for loose carts and not even from retro stores that put a markup on em, actual market value --- End quote --- Well id that's the case than I really don't have a problem with this. Unfortunately, accessibility becomes an issue over time as games age. This includes price, and despite Fire Red/Leaf Green being good games, they're nowhere near good enough to justify that sort of money. I feel like the entire Pokemon brand has become a bit of a Ponzi scheme in the last year or so and I'm not surprised the games have become part of that. If I didn't already own both games and I wasn't comfortable with emulating, then yeah, I'd fork over $20, or even $40 for both games just so I could avoid paying $100+ for a single loose cart + a GBA system assuming I didn't own one. --- End quote --- Well with this logic, it's 300 dollars for earthbound. Another 100 for a super nintendo. Should they charge us 75 for the honor to play that port? It's about 20k dollar for stadium events. Nintendo and Bondai should rerelease that game and charge 1000 dollars on Eshop. It'd be a bargain because nintendo is running on the "emulation is a sin and physical is expensive. So come to us and pay the piper" philosophy. Silent Hill 2 should have never been remastered. Just charge us 80 bucks to play the ps2 version again. I can't accept that. I'm sorry. It's extremely dangerous to gaming as a whole. That is giving them way too much upside at our expense. It's not the world we live in for any media. Digital versions of $20k comic books are like .99 cents. If that was the case the snes mini console should have been the price of a used car. All the expensive games it had on it. That's just marketing trickery and they've pidgeon holed gamers with this logic for too long. They sold us a free item for 40 bucks. They sold us a digital access key to 2 old GBA games that we dont even own forever for the same amount of money as a physical copy of Reanimal. A 2026 new entry on home console. Let that sink in. I am at a loss for words. The cart being 150+ is because its a physical relic from 20 years ago that people grew up with. A item to curate that isnt printed anymore and has historical significance. I'd rather pay 150 for a bag of chips than 40 for a bag of air. The two items arent in the same world. Nintendo themselves give us digital access to like 300+ games for 7 dollars a month plus other perks. So the price doesnt make sense even off their own logic. Why not add it to the gba part of nintendo online? Which makes me think this is a gamefreak idea. Not a Nintendo one. Because Nintendo has actually been fair with their classics for a while now imo. I give them that. And it's one of my favorite things about them. If we dont draw the line here. I'll be paying 20 to play punchout on my switch. --- End quote --- I'd rather pay 40$ for a 10 year rental which I could spend hundreds of hours on than spend 150$ on a bag of chips that's gone in 2 minutes. yes it's overpriced for some old ports but in all honesty those games are way better than any of the switch pokemon games and the true gen 1 experience that ain't kiddy/disneyfied Let's go games are a slap in the face. These games are worth way more than any of the modern pokemon games if you'd ask me. compared to the mid pokemon games we get today I'd pay full price 60$ for an old ass port compared to the shit we get today emerald FRLG/ HG SS BW2 take my money I'd easily pay 60$ for those compared to 60$ for scarlet & violet legends ZA. if roles where reversed I'd be complaining how shit like let's go eevee or sword & shield are 20$ each instead cause they are a buggy mess with shit gameplay. Like on paper it's defo overpriced. but considering people spend 60 - 70$ on actual trash modern pokemon this shit is a bargain for something actually good. ye they didn't have to put any effort into it anymore but better than new slob that's trash at a higher price not to mention dlc costs and NSO to make full use of it. That being said as a retrogame collector since I got them original anyway digital ports are not an option for me. but if I had nothing and wanted to relive nostalgia and not wanting to get a gba sp console plus physical game or want to emulate said games I'd fork the 20$ for one of the two ports. still it's ignorant to not view it from the perspective of a regular consumer, cause to a regular consumer the physical copy of the original old game and a digital copy are the same thing. It's about gameplay which both provide, reg consumers don't care about the collectibility it's why pokemon games have remained so liquid and in high demand while they are common people want to play them. and if you are against pirating physical original copies are your only way. with digital copies today, you now have a legit option to play them on current hardware at a cheaper price. Still i do find it funny how everyone is focussing on 40$ for both games. Almost nobody is gonna buy both versions. most regular consumers will just get 1 of the 2 at 20$. only the super hardcore get both which is a choice a dumb one but it's a choice, the games are nearly identical no reason to get both for the average joe, so you'll be 20$ out of pocket not 40. |
| marvelvscapcom2:
--- Quote from: sworddude on March 13, 2026, 05:14:15 pm --- --- Quote from: marvelvscapcom2 on March 09, 2026, 11:16:15 pm --- --- Quote from: bikingjahuty on March 05, 2026, 10:35:39 am --- --- Quote from: sworddude on February 24, 2026, 06:41:13 am --- --- Quote from: bikingjahuty on February 23, 2026, 10:45:10 am --- but unless they're over $100 loose, I'd say you might as well just get the physical cart and skip the digital copy. --- End quote --- so unironicly they are over a 100$ each for loose carts and not even from retro stores that put a markup on em, actual market value --- End quote --- Well id that's the case than I really don't have a problem with this. Unfortunately, accessibility becomes an issue over time as games age. This includes price, and despite Fire Red/Leaf Green being good games, they're nowhere near good enough to justify that sort of money. I feel like the entire Pokemon brand has become a bit of a Ponzi scheme in the last year or so and I'm not surprised the games have become part of that. If I didn't already own both games and I wasn't comfortable with emulating, then yeah, I'd fork over $20, or even $40 for both games just so I could avoid paying $100+ for a single loose cart + a GBA system assuming I didn't own one. --- End quote --- Well with this logic, it's 300 dollars for earthbound. Another 100 for a super nintendo. Should they charge us 75 for the honor to play that port? It's about 20k dollar for stadium events. Nintendo and Bondai should rerelease that game and charge 1000 dollars on Eshop. It'd be a bargain because nintendo is running on the "emulation is a sin and physical is expensive. So come to us and pay the piper" philosophy. Silent Hill 2 should have never been remastered. Just charge us 80 bucks to play the ps2 version again. I can't accept that. I'm sorry. It's extremely dangerous to gaming as a whole. That is giving them way too much upside at our expense. It's not the world we live in for any media. Digital versions of $20k comic books are like .99 cents. If that was the case the snes mini console should have been the price of a used car. All the expensive games it had on it. That's just marketing trickery and they've pidgeon holed gamers with this logic for too long. They sold us a free item for 40 bucks. They sold us a digital access key to 2 old GBA games that we dont even own forever for the same amount of money as a physical copy of Reanimal. A 2026 new entry on home console. Let that sink in. I am at a loss for words. The cart being 150+ is because its a physical relic from 20 years ago that people grew up with. A item to curate that isnt printed anymore and has historical significance. I'd rather pay 150 for a bag of chips than 40 for a bag of air. The two items arent in the same world. Nintendo themselves give us digital access to like 300+ games for 7 dollars a month plus other perks. So the price doesnt make sense even off their own logic. Why not add it to the gba part of nintendo online? Which makes me think this is a gamefreak idea. Not a Nintendo one. Because Nintendo has actually been fair with their classics for a while now imo. I give them that. And it's one of my favorite things about them. If we dont draw the line here. I'll be paying 20 to play punchout on my switch. --- End quote --- I'd rather pay 40$ for a 10 year rental which I could spend hundreds of hours on than spend 150$ on a bag of chips that's gone in 2 minutes. yes it's overpriced for some old ports but in all honesty those games are way better than any of the switch pokemon games and the true gen 1 experience that ain't kiddy/disneyfied Let's go games are a slap in the face. These games are worth way more than any of the modern pokemon games if you'd ask me. compared to the mid pokemon games we get today I'd pay full price 60$ for an old ass port compared to the shit we get today emerald FRLG/ HG SS BW2 take my money I'd easily pay 60$ for those compared to 60$ for scarlet & violet legends ZA. if roles where reversed I'd be complaining how shit like let's go eevee or sword & shield are 20$ each instead cause they are a buggy mess with shit gameplay. Like on paper it's defo overpriced. but considering people spend 60 - 70$ on actual trash modern pokemon this shit is a bargain for something actually good. ye they didn't have to put any effort into it anymore but better than new slob that's trash at a higher price not to mention dlc costs and NSO to make full use of it. That being said as a retrogame collector since I got them original anyway digital ports are not an option for me. but if I had nothing and wanted to relive nostalgia and not wanting to get a gba sp console plus physical game or want to emulate said games I'd fork the 20$ for one of the two ports. still it's ignorant to not view it from the perspective of a regular consumer, cause to a regular consumer the physical copy of the original old game and a digital copy are the same thing. It's about gameplay which both provide, reg consumers don't care about the collectibility it's why pokemon games have remained so liquid and in high demand while they are common people want to play them. and if you are against pirating physical original copies are your only way. with digital copies today, you now have a legit option to play them on current hardware at a cheaper price. Still i do find it funny how everyone is focussing on 40$ for both games. Almost nobody is gonna buy both versions. most regular consumers will just get 1 of the 2 at 20$. only the super hardcore get both which is a choice a dumb one but it's a choice, the games are nearly identical no reason to get both for the average joe, so you'll be 20$ out of pocket not 40. --- End quote --- I agree with all of this. Pokemon lets go Pikachu was the first game to actually offend me. Like even bad games didn't desecreate my childhood lol. When I first played Yellow I was like 5. I was playing the thing on a OG gameboy color with no backlight. Using my grandmothers lamp to even see. And we did it. Kids had ambition. Brock handed me my ass. Then I learned how to adapt. Overcome. And grind to beat him. It's what makes games cool. It's also a huge reason why kids are becoming less capable at rational problem solving in school. Everything is babyfied. Pokemon has been a dead body for decades imo. When I first got to brock in Lets go Pikachu. I was expecting a faithful remaster. I showed up with a low level Pikachu and one shotted brocks onix with an electric attack. I packaged the game and sold it. It was like watching a childhood friend sell out and become a square. I still have it as the 5th worst game I've ever played. I prefer Superman 64 to it because at least Superman 64 wasnt cosplaying as one of my favorite games of all time. I personally feel Nintendo is allergic to difficulty options on games they deem belong to kids. Because they still turn the dial up on Metroid. All it takes is having a "classic mode" like Resident Evil Requiem did to give us adult mammals with cognitive reasoning an actual game. Classic mode on games or just a hard setting would be rad. I do wish the part you said of average consumers feeling digital and physcial are the same wasn't true. But it sadly is. I just hope enough of them don't exist to make one of the big 3 go full digital. I fear that day. |
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