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| burningdoom:
--- Quote from: byron on September 23, 2014, 04:59:11 pm ---Yes, it is the lock-out chip. the CIC chip puts the console in a reset cycle; that is its function. Are you saying that it's poorly made because it does its job reliably for decades? --- End quote --- I'm saying it's poorly made because it's locking out games that aren't pirated, and making it be a pain in the ass. Other systems don't do that. Not to mention the press-down thing I mentioned in my first post, that bends the pins. |
| byron:
I can't respond to you without restating an earlier point. I don't think you're listening to me and I've lost interest in this conversation. |
| Warmsignal:
Yeah, I have to say I think a console with good build quality rarely or never needs serviced. I've heard game store owners talk about how hard the front loader is to sell, and how many people bring them back because they're frustration with it's lack of proper operation, they think it's broken. If it was built well, it wouldn't have that problem. People shouldn't have to know anything about pin connectors, they should stick a game in and it should work, just like a 2600, or a Genesis, or a SNES. Not saying those consoles work flawlessly every time, but compared to the NES front loader, it sure seems like it. |
| dashv:
--- Quote from: kamikazekeeg on September 23, 2014, 05:40:30 am --- --- Quote from: turf on September 23, 2014, 04:20:48 am --- --- Quote from: Warmsignal on September 23, 2014, 01:37:43 am ---In terms of value, availability, and fun games, the Jaguar sadly. Some consoles were commercial failures for good reason. In terms of build quality, NES front loader. --- End quote --- Whoa, whoa, whoa. Let's just stop this noise right there. You're going to tell me that the NES front loader, toaster, or NES-001 is crappy build quality? You've seen those things, right? Mine still works flawlessly 28 years later. I've had a bunch of those things pass through my hands, and I've never had one be beyond fixing. By fixing I mean bending the pins back into place. No solder, no new parts, just bending the pins back and cleaning. Compare that to disc based systems. They will all be dead, but that brave little toaster will still be toasting along. --- End quote --- Not sure I'd say that the NES's ability to be constantly fixed means it has good build quality. I've never once in my entire life came across an NES that didn't require some sort of work to get a game running and I had mine which was barely a couple years old when I got it. I certainly agree in it's lasting power, but not surprising with something as bare bones as the NES lol --- End quote --- I have to side with Turf here. Yeah you some times had to wiggle the carts to get rid of the blinking blue screen. And yeah the carts need to be cleaned with q-tips and rubbing alcohol from time to time. but the carts and console can take a beating. Even 20 years later. Put the Original PS3 in the wrong spot in your entertainment center and the thing might as well be an easy bake oven. |
| redblaze57:
I got to say the original Xbox only because I've never come across one that just plain works 1000% the one I currently use won't play certain games (like Crimson skies, Metal slug 5, Still Life) and the other one has a damaged harddrive so it won't boot up. |
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