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| soera:
While the NES' library is 95% garbage, that still leaves about 5% that isnt which is around 40 games. The N64 however has 99% garbage which means there is less than 5 games worth actually playing. It has one of the worst controllers of all time. It has not one legit RPG on the system. Fail + fail + epic fail = worst console ever made. |
| maximo310:
--- Quote from: soera on July 26, 2015, 01:46:57 pm ---While the NES' library is 95% garbage, that still leaves about 5% that isnt which is around 40 games. The N64 however has 99% garbage which means there is less than 5 games worth actually playing. It has one of the worst controllers of all time. It has not one legit RPG on the system. Fail + fail + epic fail = worst console ever made. --- End quote --- Yeah, N64 is really lacking in the games department compared to the other Nintendo consoles, especially RPGS. I remember that someone tried to debate with me on Quest 64, saying it was a good game and it needed to be remade; I was laughing my ass off for the rest of the day. |
| telly:
--- Quote from: dreama1 on July 26, 2015, 01:20:06 pm --- As a average consumer maybe it's overrated. But the games are selling for a high price for a reason. And most playstation games are also selling so cheap for a reason. No one wants them because 3D was trash in that generation for the most part. Saturn did 2D to rule them all, and that's why people will pay top dollar for that reason. In fact the only playstation games in demand are mostly RPGS, and 2D games. I don't think it's fair to say its overrated because the RPGS are out of some peoples price range. If say that person came rich and could afford those RPGS would it suddenly become not overrated? --- End quote --- I don't think it's that simple though. Games are expensive only because supply does not meet demand. This can be because the game is rare, it's actually a good game, or both. So, an expensive game doesn't have anything to say if it's actually good. And because a game is cheap doesn't mean it's bad. But I think it's very important to remember that whether a game is good or bad is based on opinion alone. Certainly a person is allowed to think that a certain expensive game on the Saturn is not that good. Thus they may not think the price is not worth it, (thus overrated), while you may think otherwise. That's ok! I don't really see a problem with people not liking a console if they don't think the price (or the hype) is justified for the games. I respect that opinion wholeheartedly, (I'm sure you do too!) :) Concerning the PlayStation, Tron Bonne and MML2 are two games that I can think of that are expensive but aren't 2D or RPGS. Or Intelligent Qube. Or Tomba! Be careful with absolutes like "only" ;) I think most PS games are cheap because more people had a PlayStation, more people bought these great games because of the larger install base, and so these games got more printings and releases. That made it easier for everyone to have a copy, and so supply/demand is better, and prices are lower. Doesn't have anything to do with the game's quality per se. (Again, not always the case, see Suikoden II) |
| egen:
--- Quote from: maximo310 on July 26, 2015, 03:03:58 pm ---I remember that someone tried to debate with me on Quest 64, saying it was a good game and it needed to be remade; I was laughing my ass off for the rest of the day. --- End quote --- Haha, Quest 64 XD I liked that game provisionally. I think I liked it sort of in a "this is bad but I must defeat it" kind of way. Yeah, the N64 pretty much didn't have one darn RPG. I remember when stuff like Crystal Chronicles and Tales of Symphonia came out for the Gamecube, and it was a big deal that a Nintendo console was going to have a "real RPG" again. --- Quote from: dreama1 on July 26, 2015, 01:20:06 pm ---But the games are selling for a high price for a reason. --- End quote --- Funny, I was just talking with my friend about the rarity of games and how it may not seem to have any rhyme or reason, but it pretty much boils down to how many were printed a lot of the time, which telly covered pretty well in his post. But yeah, I remember selling a cartridge of Nosferatu for the SNES for $70 on eBay. Cartridge only. Nosferatu. I also sold Final Fantasy III for the going rate at the time and got $57. So... yeah, that makes a lot of sense. P.S. I can also sell a copy of Disgaea for the PS2 complete with case and book in great condition and maybe get $15. ??? |
| maximo310:
--- Quote from: egen on July 26, 2015, 04:36:49 pm --- --- Quote from: maximo310 on July 26, 2015, 03:03:58 pm ---I remember that someone tried to debate with me on Quest 64, saying it was a good game and it needed to be remade; I was laughing my ass off for the rest of the day. --- End quote --- Haha, Quest 64 XD I liked that game provisionally. I think I liked it sort of in a "this is bad but I must defeat it" kind of way. Yeah, the N64 pretty much didn't have one darn RPG. I remember when stuff like Crystal Chronicles and Tales of Symphonia came out for the Gamecube, and it was a big deal that a Nintendo console was going to have a "real RPG" again. --- End quote --- The reason why it was so funny is that the guy said that Quest 64 was better than any 3DS rpg, which is not factually correct by any stretch. Personally, Quest 64 is more of an experimental game that could have been better if they had polished up the gameplay and story more, but it doesn't have any interest of being remade since sales were pretty poor in most countries. Every other Nintendo console has had a better RPG library compared to the N64. |
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