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| DreamsDied13101:
Genesis is the winner in my opinion, but just for personal preference. Sega probably could have stayed neck and neck with Nintendo in America if they would have focused more on games and pushing the Genesis instead of Sega CD and 32x. (Nintendo should have learned Sega's lesson - don't be first to market (Wii U), don't make upgrade or add ons for your system (New 3ds, maybe NX), and don't burn your fanbase (Wii U and New 3ds are about to have this happen I bet). I actually liked the SNES more when I was younger, but I have found more of an appreciation for the Genesis as an adult. Sega is the Mike Huckabee of video game companies. They continually lost almost every election (cycle) and would keep plugging away for another run at it. They fought hard to bring their unique perspective to the industry, but it wasn't ever going to win it all. Other than Mike Huckabee is a Christian and seems to have a pretty clean record, and Sega is probably crawling with Yakuza money. |
| sin2beta:
--- Quote from: DreamsDied13101 on January 22, 2016, 02:32:01 pm ---Genesis is the winner in my opinion, but just for personal preference. Sega probably could have stayed neck and neck with Nintendo in America if they would have focused more on games and pushing the Genesis instead of Sega CD and 32x. (Nintendo should have learned Sega's lesson - don't be first to market (Wii U), don't make upgrade or add ons for your system (New 3ds, maybe NX), and don't burn your fanbase (Wii U and New 3ds are about to have this happen I bet). I actually liked the SNES more when I was younger, but I have found more of an appreciation for the Genesis as an adult. Sega is the Mike Huckabee of video game companies. They continually lost almost every election (cycle) and would keep plugging away for another run at it. They fought hard to bring their unique perspective to the industry, but it wasn't ever going to win it all. Other than Mike Huckabee is a Christian and seems to have a pretty clean record, and Sega is probably crawling with Yakuza money. --- End quote --- Well, I feel a little odd siding with the Genesis after the Huckabee comparison... ;) You seem to be right about the yakuza stuff too. There was a recent interview where a ex-yakuza stated the only clean companies in games were Namco and Nintendo. However, reading Game Over, I get the impression they ran stuff basically like the yakuza anyway and didn't need them. Yamauchi was one iron-fisted, take everyone one down, type of guy. Well, I definitely side with the Genesis. However, they are both great systems. |
| DreamsDied13101:
--- Quote from: sin2beta on January 22, 2016, 09:34:20 pm ---Well, I feel a little odd siding with the Genesis after the Huckabee comparison... ;) You seem to be right about the yakuza stuff too. There was a recent interview where a ex-yakuza stated the only clean companies in games were Namco and Nintendo. However, reading Game Over, I get the impression they ran stuff basically like the yakuza anyway and didn't need them. Yamauchi was one iron-fisted, take everyone one down, type of guy. Well, I definitely side with the Genesis. However, they are both great systems. --- End quote --- I didn't bring up the Huckabee comparison to make it political (not sure if most people care for him here or would rather see him run out of the country), but it made me think of him how he runs for president every opportunity and his chances are 0% of ever making office. I could see Nintendo being Yakuza free especially since they don't do much arcade, pachinko, etc... If Sega was not wrapped up in the Yakuza before they definitely are now being with Sammy. Speaking of Yamauchi - here is a fitting article about the Genesis/SNES battle. http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/stories/1994-02-20/nintendos-yamauchi-no-more-playing-around Maybe even the Yakuza who probably have the whole country under their thumb couldn't even intimidate Yamauchi. |
| sworddude:
--- Quote from: badATchaos on January 21, 2016, 10:48:09 pm ---To me it's a kin to comparing Dreamcast to PS2. Same generation but one is a bit newer and has a bit more juice. Yes, the Mega Drive was faster in some ways but the SNES was generally more advance, thanks to it being a bit newer. When it comes to games the same kind of thing applies. Many of the hits on the MD/Genesis came out in the 80s and are generally simplistic. This doesn't mean the system was bad or anything, it's just that devs were still thinking on a simpler 8bit mind set. To me games like Sonic and Altered Beast were just pretty NES games. Over the next few years developers did started making more complex games and by the time SNES came out I think they knew what they were doing. All i'm trying to say is that the difference in hardware makes them hard tricky to compare. I know the Dreamcast-PS2 analogy is kinda weak because in that case there was a bigger tech gap but I think you get my meaning. --- End quote --- Comparing dreamcast to ps2 hell no. The ps2 is far superior to the dreamcast while snes and megadrive/ genesis are really close. I'm talking about game library and that the dreamcast was dead pretty early. Also about people thinking that sega fanboys like sonic games, best of the system etc? Think again sonic games are one of the least things I think about when turning on my megadrive. I barely play sonic games, when I play on my megadrive not to great, compared to other stuff on the megadrive wich the reason is why I appreciate this system. I think sega did better than nintendo in this era. Nintendo definitly has some great games I'm a mario fanboy and you cannot compare mario to sonic but some other games on the sega console are a hell lot of fun to play. Also I prefer castlevania bloodlines/new generation to super castlevania IV both great games Music is superior in sega, for other sounds snes usually wins not always. Streets of rage 2 has awesome music and the best in the sor series streets of rage 1 pales in comparison. People always complain about the 3 button pad but you could just use an arcade controller problem solved afterwards. Who cares about the regular controller if you get a better one. I;ve got 2 arcade controllers myself and 2 wireless 6 button controllers so no problems for me. Also for great rpg's on the snes with chrono trigger, final fantasy III etc, sega has phantasy star IV and the shining force series. Nintendo did better with adds and sega is pretty less known with it's better games but if your talking about grapics sound and gameplay I'll give sega the win. |
| dashv:
--- Quote from: sworddude on January 24, 2016, 02:30:24 pm ---Nintendo did better with adds and sega is pretty less known with it's better games but if your talking about grapics sound and gameplay I'll give sega the win. --- End quote --- Actually I only (vaguely) remember a couple Nintendo ads: One for Star Fox "danger danger" "you are FOX mccloud, in Star Fox". The other is for the Super Scope. Accurate down to "A single. Television. pixel." I remember a TON of Sega commercials though. The Sonic and Knucles proposal to Santa with "lock on technology". The Sega Genesis "blast processing" commercial The "Say what!? You still don't have a Sega CD!? What are you waiting for Nintendo to make one?" Commercial The "you can't do this on Nintendo. Genesis does!" Commercials. Those are off the top of my head and our was a Nintendo household at the time. |
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