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| kmacdw:
--- Quote from: sworddude on March 20, 2016, 06:47:51 pm --- --- Quote from: kmacdw on March 20, 2016, 06:31:09 pm --- --- Quote from: sworddude on March 20, 2016, 06:21:54 pm --- --- Quote from: kmacdw on March 20, 2016, 06:11:18 pm --- --- Quote from: sworddude on March 20, 2016, 04:28:02 pm --- --- Quote from: kashell on March 16, 2016, 11:37:37 am ---Hidden gems seems pretty accurate for the games I'm about to describe. The Last Story: While basic bitches were playing Xenoblade and tweeting about it on their iPhones, I was not acting like a Lemming and playing this gorgeous game. A fun battle system coupled with some of the best characters written in an RPG, The Last Story was a brilliant game. Also, 'DAT ARTBOOK! --- End quote --- The last story cannot be considered a hidden gem. It's actually pretty popular, one of the best rpg's for the wii, sure it was I believe 1 year after xenoblade and people were dissapointed that it wasn't as good but still plenty known to all with high reviews. Pandora's tower could be a hidden gem since it was at the end of the wii life span and way less people bought this game compared to the former operation rainfall releases. It was also slightly worse than the last story wich didn't help for the sales and the 3 coin set. Still though I wouldn't even consider pandora's tower to be a hidden gem, way to well known since it is part of the operation rainfall rpg wii series. --- End quote --- You could make the argument that all games aren't hidden gems. Especially on a forum like this where some people own 2000 games :D The term 'hidden gem' is stupid really. Among hardcore gamers none of these games are really hidden. they may be surprises when they first come out but they're not really hidden. This thread is pretty much about games that don't belong to a well established series/franchise or aren't a Last of Us kind of blockbuster title. Also depends on your region. The Last Story and Pandora's Tower both came out in a similar window in Europe. And both of them released in low quantities and were largely ignored as the console was dead to most. --- End quote --- Yea sure and chrono trigger is a hidden gem 8) Operation rainfall titles are not hidden gems I stand by my point even casual collectors know about those titles. You don't need to be a hardcore collector to know about the 3 operation rainfall wii games. All suikoden games are not hidden gems the series is just to well known same goes for the last story It's way to well known. Overboard or azure dreams for ps1 could be considered hidden gems. Even hardcore collectors could agree that no one talks about such games but they do know about them those could be considered hidden gems. --- End quote --- Chrono Trigger was never a hidden gem as it was made by the same people as Final Fantasy so it was always going to have hype. I'd say back when they came out, in particular the first Suikoden was a hidden gem. Word of mouth over time has made the title infamous but the price of the first two games shows how hidden a gem they once where. However now there has been six games in the series, it's very much an established franchise, what with having been re-published on the PSN. I'm an RPG fan so I own both Suikoden and Azure Dreams and played both games at a friend's a long time ago when I was a kid. However outside my circle of fellow RPG fans or fellow collectors; I don't think most people I know who play games will have played either title tbh. They may have noticed Suikoden on the PSN store but doubt they ever bought it. Again among people like ourselves none of these games are truly hidden gems. We simply breath this stuff. Also again you ignore regions. We didn't have Operation Rainfall. These games were just released for Wii. Kind of like sleeper releases. I stumbled upon a sole copy of The Last Story in a Virgin Megastores; noticed it was made by Mistwalker. Honestly at the time I paid little attention to the Wii as Nintendo first party titles aside it was generally motion control shovel ware. I went home read up on it, then went back to the store and bought it. Much the same happened with Pandora's Tower, only I decided against buying it as it wasn't for me. And yes I'm aware of the Evolution series. I once made a list of all the J-RPGs available in the PAL region. Read into each, watching gameplay and such. And had ambitions of buying them all. But I gave up on that endeavor. Far too expensive and wouldn't have the time to play them all anyways. A pipe dream :D Perhaps a stipulation should have been the game has to have sold less than 1 million copies worldwide via VG Chartz. But then plenty of games listed above, including by me wouldn't be 'hidden gems'. Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning - 2.04 million Duke Nukem Forever - 2 million Resonance of Fate - 1.07 million Vanquish - 1.04 million --- End quote --- Games wich have sold over 1million copies could be considered a hidden gem if they are pretty much forgotten or under rated. However this is an example of the wii rpg trilogy it's to popular to be a hidden gem Suikoden 1 was a hidden gem however over time it has gotten popular and lost it's hidden gem status with a high fanbase. Were talking about the present not about the past. Lost odyssey for xbox 360 is a nice hidden gem. Sold pretty well but pretty much forgotten in the present. --- End quote --- Again it depends who you are talking to. You imply Lost Odyssey is less known than The Last Story but among RPG fans I know it would be vice versa. To a non-RPG fan neither game would be well known, whereas games like Final Fantasy or Persona would be. You say because The Last Story was an Operation Rainfall title it can't possibly be hidden. However as you say these games can be forgotten over time, so clearly Operation Rainfall can be too. I read plenty about that campaign at the time but I'll be honest other than Xenoblade Chronicles I couldn't remember for the life of me what the other titles were until you mentioned them tonight :) Operation Rainfall sticks in your head but perhaps overtime others have forgotten the details. |
| maximo310:
--- Quote from: sworddude on March 20, 2016, 06:47:51 pm --- --- Quote from: kmacdw on March 20, 2016, 06:31:09 pm --- --- Quote from: sworddude on March 20, 2016, 06:21:54 pm --- --- Quote from: kmacdw on March 20, 2016, 06:11:18 pm --- --- Quote from: sworddude on March 20, 2016, 04:28:02 pm --- --- Quote from: kashell on March 16, 2016, 11:37:37 am ---Hidden gems seems pretty accurate for the games I'm about to describe. The Last Story: While basic bitches were playing Xenoblade and tweeting about it on their iPhones, I was not acting like a Lemming and playing this gorgeous game. A fun battle system coupled with some of the best characters written in an RPG, The Last Story was a brilliant game. Also, 'DAT ARTBOOK! --- End quote --- The last story cannot be considered a hidden gem. It's actually pretty popular, one of the best rpg's for the wii, sure it was I believe 1 year after xenoblade and people were dissapointed that it wasn't as good but still plenty known to all with high reviews. Pandora's tower could be a hidden gem since it was at the end of the wii life span and way less people bought this game compared to the former operation rainfall releases. It was also slightly worse than the last story wich didn't help for the sales and the 3 coin set. Still though I wouldn't even consider pandora's tower to be a hidden gem, way to well known since it is part of the operation rainfall rpg wii series. --- End quote --- You could make the argument that all games aren't hidden gems. Especially on a forum like this where some people own 2000 games :D The term 'hidden gem' is stupid really. Among hardcore gamers none of these games are really hidden. they may be surprises when they first come out but they're not really hidden. This thread is pretty much about games that don't belong to a well established series/franchise or aren't a Last of Us kind of blockbuster title. Also depends on your region. The Last Story and Pandora's Tower both came out in a similar window in Europe. And both of them released in low quantities and were largely ignored as the console was dead to most. --- End quote --- Yea sure and chrono trigger is a hidden gem 8) Operation rainfall titles are not hidden gems I stand by my point even casual collectors know about those titles. You don't need to be a hardcore collector to know about the 3 operation rainfall wii games. All suikoden games are not hidden gems the series is just to well known same goes for the last story It's way to well known. Overboard or azure dreams for ps1 could be considered hidden gems. Even hardcore collectors could agree that no one talks about such games but they do know about them those could be considered hidden gems. --- End quote --- Chrono Trigger was never a hidden gem as it was made by the same people as Final Fantasy so it was always going to have hype. I'd say back when they came out, in particular the first Suikoden was a hidden gem. Word of mouth over time has made the title infamous but the price of the first two games shows how hidden a gem they once where. However now there has been six games in the series, it's very much an established franchise, what with having been re-published on the PSN. I'm an RPG fan so I own both Suikoden and Azure Dreams and played both games at a friend's a long time ago when I was a kid. However outside my circle of fellow RPG fans or fellow collectors; I don't think most people I know who play games will have played either title tbh. They may have noticed Suikoden on the PSN store but doubt they ever bought it. Again among people like ourselves none of these games are truly hidden gems. We simply breath this stuff. Also again you ignore regions. We didn't have Operation Rainfall. These games were just released for Wii. Kind of like sleeper releases. I stumbled upon a sole copy of The Last Story in a Virgin Megastores; noticed it was made by Mistwalker. Honestly at the time I paid little attention to the Wii as Nintendo first party titles aside it was generally motion control shovel ware. I went home read up on it, then went back to the store and bought it. Much the same happened with Pandora's Tower, only I decided against buying it as it wasn't for me. And yes I'm aware of the Evolution series. I once made a list of all the J-RPGs available in the PAL region. Read into each, watching gameplay and such. And had ambitions of buying them all. But I gave up on that endeavor. Far too expensive and wouldn't have the time to play them all anyways. A pipe dream :D Perhaps a stipulation should have been the game has to have sold less than 1 million copies worldwide via VG Chartz. But then plenty of games listed above, including by me wouldn't be 'hidden gems'. Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning - 2.04 million Duke Nukem Forever - 2 million Resonance of Fate - 1.07 million Vanquish - 1.04 million --- End quote --- Games wich have sold over 1million copies could be considered a hidden gem if they are pretty much forgotten or under rated. However this is an example of the wii rpg trilogy it's to popular to be a hidden gem Suikoden 1 was a hidden gem however over time it has gotten popular and lost it's hidden gem status with a high fanbase. Were talking about the present not about the past. Lost odyssey for xbox 360 is a nice hidden gem. Sold pretty well but pretty much forgotten in the present. --- End quote --- Even if you make the argument about the present, Pandora's Tower's still is a hidden gem. It wasn't really talked about that much in comparision to the Last Story/Xenoblade on its release; and most people didn't really know too much about it since the amount of Wii software from third parties dropped pretty significantly after 2010. You still don't really hear about it being talked too much nowadays in general gaming circles. |
| kmacdw:
--- Quote from: maximo310 on March 20, 2016, 07:00:39 pm --- --- Quote from: sworddude on March 20, 2016, 06:47:51 pm --- --- Quote from: kmacdw on March 20, 2016, 06:31:09 pm --- --- Quote from: sworddude on March 20, 2016, 06:21:54 pm --- --- Quote from: kmacdw on March 20, 2016, 06:11:18 pm --- --- Quote from: sworddude on March 20, 2016, 04:28:02 pm --- --- Quote from: kashell on March 16, 2016, 11:37:37 am ---Hidden gems seems pretty accurate for the games I'm about to describe. The Last Story: While basic bitches were playing Xenoblade and tweeting about it on their iPhones, I was not acting like a Lemming and playing this gorgeous game. A fun battle system coupled with some of the best characters written in an RPG, The Last Story was a brilliant game. Also, 'DAT ARTBOOK! --- End quote --- The last story cannot be considered a hidden gem. It's actually pretty popular, one of the best rpg's for the wii, sure it was I believe 1 year after xenoblade and people were dissapointed that it wasn't as good but still plenty known to all with high reviews. Pandora's tower could be a hidden gem since it was at the end of the wii life span and way less people bought this game compared to the former operation rainfall releases. It was also slightly worse than the last story wich didn't help for the sales and the 3 coin set. Still though I wouldn't even consider pandora's tower to be a hidden gem, way to well known since it is part of the operation rainfall rpg wii series. --- End quote --- You could make the argument that all games aren't hidden gems. Especially on a forum like this where some people own 2000 games :D The term 'hidden gem' is stupid really. Among hardcore gamers none of these games are really hidden. they may be surprises when they first come out but they're not really hidden. This thread is pretty much about games that don't belong to a well established series/franchise or aren't a Last of Us kind of blockbuster title. Also depends on your region. The Last Story and Pandora's Tower both came out in a similar window in Europe. And both of them released in low quantities and were largely ignored as the console was dead to most. --- End quote --- Yea sure and chrono trigger is a hidden gem 8) Operation rainfall titles are not hidden gems I stand by my point even casual collectors know about those titles. You don't need to be a hardcore collector to know about the 3 operation rainfall wii games. All suikoden games are not hidden gems the series is just to well known same goes for the last story It's way to well known. Overboard or azure dreams for ps1 could be considered hidden gems. Even hardcore collectors could agree that no one talks about such games but they do know about them those could be considered hidden gems. --- End quote --- Chrono Trigger was never a hidden gem as it was made by the same people as Final Fantasy so it was always going to have hype. I'd say back when they came out, in particular the first Suikoden was a hidden gem. Word of mouth over time has made the title infamous but the price of the first two games shows how hidden a gem they once where. However now there has been six games in the series, it's very much an established franchise, what with having been re-published on the PSN. I'm an RPG fan so I own both Suikoden and Azure Dreams and played both games at a friend's a long time ago when I was a kid. However outside my circle of fellow RPG fans or fellow collectors; I don't think most people I know who play games will have played either title tbh. They may have noticed Suikoden on the PSN store but doubt they ever bought it. Again among people like ourselves none of these games are truly hidden gems. We simply breath this stuff. Also again you ignore regions. We didn't have Operation Rainfall. These games were just released for Wii. Kind of like sleeper releases. I stumbled upon a sole copy of The Last Story in a Virgin Megastores; noticed it was made by Mistwalker. Honestly at the time I paid little attention to the Wii as Nintendo first party titles aside it was generally motion control shovel ware. I went home read up on it, then went back to the store and bought it. Much the same happened with Pandora's Tower, only I decided against buying it as it wasn't for me. And yes I'm aware of the Evolution series. I once made a list of all the J-RPGs available in the PAL region. Read into each, watching gameplay and such. And had ambitions of buying them all. But I gave up on that endeavor. Far too expensive and wouldn't have the time to play them all anyways. A pipe dream :D Perhaps a stipulation should have been the game has to have sold less than 1 million copies worldwide via VG Chartz. But then plenty of games listed above, including by me wouldn't be 'hidden gems'. Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning - 2.04 million Duke Nukem Forever - 2 million Resonance of Fate - 1.07 million Vanquish - 1.04 million --- End quote --- Games wich have sold over 1million copies could be considered a hidden gem if they are pretty much forgotten or under rated. However this is an example of the wii rpg trilogy it's to popular to be a hidden gem Suikoden 1 was a hidden gem however over time it has gotten popular and lost it's hidden gem status with a high fanbase. Were talking about the present not about the past. Lost odyssey for xbox 360 is a nice hidden gem. Sold pretty well but pretty much forgotten in the present. --- End quote --- Even if you make the argument about the present, Pandora's Tower's still is a hidden gem. It wasn't really talked about that much in comparision to the Last Story/Xenoblade on its release; and most people didn't really know too much about it since the amount of Wii software from third parties dropped pretty significantly after 2010. You still don't really hear about it being talked too much nowadays in general gaming circles. --- End quote --- Aye honestly the only two exclusive third party titles I hear mentioned regularly for Wii are Mad World and Xenoblade Chronicles, Everything else gets buries under the weight of Mario Galaxy and Super Smash Bros Brawl |
| shfan:
The Wii in particular is ripe with hidden gems considering how many dismissed it as having no decent games ??? 1) The Munchables (Wii) The multicoloured, caffeine-soaked offspring of a basic 3D platformer and Katamari. You have to scoff space pirates who are all composed of food while rushing around big lush levels. An absolute treat with a cracking soundtrack. 2) Eledees (Wii) A weird mix of physics game, shoot em up and hide and seek. Thrown on the casual-crap pile by almost everyone (myself included), later levels require a strategy and time management in order to gain access to the little sods before the time limit ends. Everything in Eledees has a weight, so you can't throw heavy objects to check them for varmints before levelling up. In later levels you start with small items of furniture but end up chucking small buildings around. It's a hoot, with a touching story too. 3) Banjo Kazooie Nuts & Bolts (360) The game nobody wanted, yet locked under the vehicle tinkering is the same Rare platforming magic that's always been there. A truly quality game in a sea of third-person open-world shooter greyness. 4) Bladestorm: The Hundred Year War (360/PS3) Though re-released and added-to under the title Bladestorm: Nightmare on newer systems, this remains a slightly flawed but fun sprawling battlefield game ready to kick your butt at a moment's notice. 5) Dante's Inferno (360/PS3) A full-priced title and certainly not a hidden one by any means, nor a terrible seller, but nonetheless now seemingly out of mind. Wasn't perfect, not enough enemy varieties for my liking, but epic bosses, not least Satan's wobbling Johnson, a terrifying battle. 6) Project Sylpheed (360) Early release from Squaresoft, X-Wing meets anime, fun game which gets even better with New Game +. 7) Sacred 3 (360/PS3) Another one which nobody wanted and sank without a trace, but it's actually a fun combat-centred Diablo 3-alike. A little repetitive, but a perfectly fun game. |
| maximo310:
--- Quote from: kmacdw on March 20, 2016, 07:09:35 pm --- --- Quote from: maximo310 on March 20, 2016, 07:00:39 pm --- --- End quote --- Aye honestly the only two exclusive third party titles I hear mentioned regularly for Wii are Mad World and Xenoblade Chronicles, Everything else gets buries under the weight of Mario Galaxy and Super Smash Bros Brawl --- End quote --- Yeah, there are ton of great hidden gems on the Wii that got missed due to being niche titles. There's a ton of them mentioned here: http://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,4398.msg59944.html#msg59944 |
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