We can't put people in a bubble like the way info wars wants us to. These times should always be of healing and coming closer rather than segregation. we cant start profiling the way Trump wants us to. Blaming all of islam for multiple isolated terrorist attacks. Is like blaming ALL white people for school shootings. Columbine, Sandy Hook, ect.. all white shooters. Nothing productive comes from finger pointing or singling out an entire religion/race. At the end of the day. These things are unavoidable. And when they happen we just have to mourn and show respect for the families of the victims. As for preventing them from happening again, that is impossible unfortunately. It simply is. Murders and genocide have happened since the beginning of man. Their will always be a psycho with a gun that wants to kill. All you can do is cherish your loved ones and never take life for granted. Because tommarow is never guaranteed. The back and fourth debates will never accomplish anything. Terrorism is impossible to stop. Especially considering it was an America citizen and most terrorist attacks in America are done by legal America citizens.
My personal 2 cents is that if people were required to open carry a weapon. Everyone at these places would be armed and the terrorists would be killed before they could do as much killing as they do. But that Is neither here nor there and saying that doesn't bring back the victims nor does it make terrorists go away. So it is pointless.
Save the liberalistic bullshit, and nihilism for somewhere else please. If people took the same attitude you had we'd still have slave owners, and be speaking german at this point.
Care to elaborate?
Nihilism- the rejection of all religious and moral principles, often in the belief that life is meaningless. (specify which part of my comment that was represented)
How did my statement even remotely connect to slavery or "speaking German" which I assume you mean WWII. You do realize that a liberal was our president during the time of WWII correct? And slavery was ended by Abraham Lincoln, yet another liberal. How can you speak against liberalism yet name 2 instances in American history where a liberal literally changed our nation for the better. It is hypocritical. In fact if it weren't for liberalism (Political philosophy founded on liberty and equality and openness to change traditional values and idealogy) their would still be slaves. Conservative ideology is the reason slavery lasted as long as it did. Your rebuttal was all over the place and lacked elaboration to further the argumentation.
Conservative ideology is the cause for most wars. In fact conservative defined as followed (Holding onto traditional values often fearing or opposing change in regards to religion or politics) is ideology that consists of homophobia among others. Homophobia being One of the possible causes of THIS tragedy. So maybe you should save the B.S fear mongering, insensitive, conservative, info wars B.S for somewhere else.
Ad hominems, and quite a mouth full there. But lets see.
Classical liberalism. Not progressive liberalism. Anyway not really the best example someone who gave the go to make atomic bombs, and drop atomic bombs on Japan is it? , if it was wrong or not? Or someone who organised the bloodiest war in history to be fought on American soil by invading the south because of legal constitutional succession, that could of been resolved by other means? You're not giving the best examples exactly but okay. The slavery metaphor used before you drag it out any longer is because if no one acknowledged it was a major problem and to speak out against it, it would never have been resolved. That slave owners were a "problem" "Because it's offensive to slave owners to say such things" The Ideology we are facing today that hates our values in the west must also be acknowledged, and resolved and considered "problematic ". (They're not liberals!)
Oh.. why a proud nation that came close to greatness at one point became the laughing stock of the planet right now you manage to sum up in just one response incredibly. The liberalism you practice right now im afraid is fascism really with manners and rooted in marxism. Do as you please but maybe it's shock to you but islam is not a "LIBERAL" ideology. So please. The things we fought hard for in the past like fair treatment of woman, and fair treatment of homosexuals, the right to a fair trial, criticism of religion, religious freedom, and freedom of speech of course in the west. They do not tolerate any of the above. It's undisputed. I'm not trying to offend you but ill speak bluntly about it it disgusts me that you surrender such hard fought values. The liberal muslim is "almost" none existent and less each day (and by the definition of the quran, not even a real muslim.)
"ideology that consists of homophobia among others" By the way that's very hateful of you to label conservatives as such its such typical liberal logic I don't even know how to respond to that, saying you're the one who wants to invite a religion/culture in "solidarity" that sees no problem having the death penalty for homosexuals you must be proud to have "solidarity" with such a none anti-liberal religion/culture, It didn't exactly spread by the word you know? Good job pissing on the gravestones, hope it was satisfactory. 
Wow, where do I begin.
Firstly, I was just pointing out your obvious hypocrisies. Saying slavery and WWII would have had different outcomes if everyone had liberal ideology made no sense considering Slavery and WWII were fought and ended by liberals. But I don't necessarily consider myself a full liberal. And you say it is hateful to label conservatives as homophobes, yet you proceed to label an entire religion as homophobes and radical extremists. A religion that consists of people like Shaquille O'Neil and Dr.Oz. So I guess Shaq is a homophobic possible radical extremist by your logic right? I guess all gamers are energy drink drinking virgins that swear at their moms by your logic right? Quit putting people in bubbles and grouping people. It is getting played. Typical trump logic. We cant build and grow from this. A conservative is what got us in this cultural mess in the first place. (Bush Jr.) Conservatives also caused World War II, Vietnam War, 9/11 and Most terrorist attacks. But that is neither here nor there. all Islamic people arent to blame. Sometimes I question if you realize their are 1.6 billion Islamic people. 95 percent of which innocent folks with unique beliefs from ours but still deserving of freedom and life.
Islam is conservative but so is Christianity. Conservative doesnt mean radical extremists or terrorists. Battling fire with fire will start nothing but more wars (ww3) which this country can ill afford. So please elaborate as to what you recommend we do? Strip them of their liberties when 90 percent of them are innocent people like you and me? Invade them, harm them. Disrespect them? How would that make us any different? Nothing can be done. Point blank. We cant stop islam and we cant stop our citizens from converting or swearing allegiance to ISIS. What wont solve anything is labeling millions or disrespecting religious values of others. In fact it will make things worst (ww3)
Conservatives revel in homophobia and have opposed gay marriage for the longest yet are the first to point the homophobia finger at islam in crucial times. You, Alex Jones, and Trump are all deluded.
You have yet to further argumentation and have only proceeded to make vague claims and brutally offensive insensitive statements like "good job pissing on the gravestones". Honestly, you can share different view points all you want. But can't you word things like an adult? Because debating politics is one thing but taking it to a personal level is another. I expected more from you.
But either way bud, I think we should agree to disagree. Because I don't see this argument going anywhere productive. I don't agree with your views at all nor do you agree with mine. So let's leave it at that. I am honestly saddened by all this nonsense and I don't feel like fighting with you. I haven't even slept. I just want to get along and everyone to model their lives in peace and acceptance rather than hate..
