Do you think gaming should be defined as an addiction?

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marvelvscapcom2:

--- Quote from: dreama1 on August 04, 2016, 12:57:27 am ---
--- Quote from: maximo310 on August 03, 2016, 09:25:00 pm ---Anything consumed in excess can become an addition; therefore, gaming by itself is not an addiction.

This is a pretty silly topic anyways; according to the topic creator only certain kind of activities are defined as "addiction" by his standards.

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Excuse me. I made the argument of something totally useless, is not the same as something useful. You can't compare playing a guitar, learning a skill, or self improvement to sitting in a dark basement playing video games alone. You're improving yourself by doing those activities, and they don't have deadly side effects for some. I defined it the way I saw, instead of semantics. You can define it whatever way you want.

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That is very opinionated and subjective though. And biased. Video games improve your hand eye coordination, your peripheral vision, you have to read in most RPGs thus helping your vocabulary, your finger dexterity to a certain extent. they help you to meet new friends online. Some games help you get exercise. Streaming on twitch or YouTube can make you money, pay bills, you can make millions off of gaming if you become big enough. Sure its a rarity but so is becoming a guitarist for a popular band. Guitar doesn't improve anything. What does guitar do? It gets people to watch you and like you and In very rare cases can make you money but really learning to play guitar doesn't do anything to benefit you mentally other than maybe the thrill factor or pleasure you get from it like video game. It doesn't educate you. You wont use it in most work settings. You perceive that as a skill but cant anything be considered a skill?

This whole thread is filled with vague terms that have loose meanings. Words like "Skill" or "addiction" are subjective. Anything can be a skill and anything can be an addiction. Depends what you consider to be a threshold for skill and addiction. Wrapping a sandwich in plastic wrap could be a skill. Petting a dog could be an addiction if done excessively in variations of 9 hours a day hurting the dog or your hand. In general its best not to put these labels on things. As said before video game is a hobby more or less but it can be addictive to some. :)

dreama1:

--- Quote from: doctorlaudanum on August 04, 2016, 10:41:19 pm ---^Who's getting emotional? I think you've made some decent points here, but telling people to leave once they say something you disagree with is just bad forum etiquette, especially over something so trivial. Both sides of the discussion have been represented equally here, yet you're only targeting one side. That's not push back. That's you opening a thread to push your own opinion on people. Again, I'm not saying this because I disagree with you or think this isn't the place for a healthy debate. I just have to wonder if you started this thread with a motive in mind.

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Read it again. You mean asking to shut down the discussion board? Doesn't encourage anything from anyone or me. Is why I said that. Anyway the person was joking why are you bringing it up again, and targeting me out as the villain as usual? Let it rest and stay on topic.

dreama1:

--- Quote from: marvelvscapcom2 on August 05, 2016, 05:38:01 am ---
--- Quote from: dreama1 on August 04, 2016, 12:57:27 am ---
--- Quote from: maximo310 on August 03, 2016, 09:25:00 pm ---Anything consumed in excess can become an addition; therefore, gaming by itself is not an addiction.

This is a pretty silly topic anyways; according to the topic creator only certain kind of activities are defined as "addiction" by his standards.

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Excuse me. I made the argument of something totally useless, is not the same as something useful. You can't compare playing a guitar, learning a skill, or self improvement to sitting in a dark basement playing video games alone. You're improving yourself by doing those activities, and they don't have deadly side effects for some. I defined it the way I saw, instead of semantics. You can define it whatever way you want.

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That is very opinionated and subjective though. And biased. Video games improve your hand eye coordination, your peripheral vision, you have to read in most RPGs thus helping your vocabulary, your finger dexterity to a certain extent. they help you to meet new friends online. Some games help you get exercise. Streaming on twitch or YouTube can make you money, pay bills, you can make millions off of gaming if you become big enough. Sure its a rarity but so is becoming a guitarist for a popular band. Guitar doesn't improve anything. What does guitar do? It gets people to watch you and like you and In very rare cases can make you money but really learning to play guitar doesn't do anything to benefit you mentally other than maybe the thrill factor or pleasure you get from it like video game. It doesn't educate you. You wont use it in most work settings. You perceive that as a skill but cant anything be considered a skill?

This whole thread is filled with vague terms that have loose meanings. Words like "Skill" or "addiction" are subjective. Anything can be a skill and anything can be an addiction. Depends what you consider to be a threshold for skill and addiction. Wrapping a sandwich in plastic wrap could be a skill. Petting a dog could be an addiction if done excessively in variations of 9 hours a day hurting the dog or your hand. In general its best not to put these labels on things. As said before video game is a hobby more or less but it can be addictive to some. :)

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I think petting a dog to much would be a compulsive disorder, than an addiction. The brain has a mental disorder, not an actual addiction.

Hmm.. maybe you're right. They weren't actually my values as you can see i'm also a gamer. But i'll say this gaming has had more tragedies than success stories at the end of the day. You don't learn anything playing video games (Except maybe the seasoned jrpg gamer), nor gain skills in the real world that will help you succeed socially or emotionally. Gaming as a hobby was an escape it always was.

I've made no conclusions btw.

bikingjahuty:
addiction does not classify a whole category; I can use cocaine, but not be addicted it.

Video games, like almost anything can become addictive. Anything that has a positive association has the potential to become an addiction. With that said, I think there are people out there who are genuinely addicted to video games, whether it is playing them, collecting them, or buying them. I've personally know few people that I would classify as addicted to gaming in one way or another. Recently, even in my own attempts to slow down on the amount of games I buy, I have noticed how hard it is. I don't believe I am addicted, but the positive association of finding a new game for my collection has definitely sunk its hooks in me over these years and I can see that I did seek it out.

Warmsignal:

--- Quote from: necrosexual on August 05, 2016, 02:17:47 am ---
--- Quote from: Warmsignal on August 04, 2016, 10:44:29 pm ---Yes playing games can be addictive depending on the game. But more curiously I wonder if game collecting can be an addiction? I think it's more of a compulsive thing.

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addictions come with compulsions heh.
idk how collecting would be so much addiction, other than psychological, unless it's kinda like gambling? sure, you might NEVER PLAY THE GAME you just bought, but if you blind buy primarily, instead of looking at reviews, then it's kinda a gamble. "did i just waste my cash on a crap shoot or did i uncover a gem" is a fun game to play, could be considered a gamble.

but i don't think so haha. other than any other thing which can be psychologically addicting, but then, i think it depends on the methods on how someone buys it, then you would sort it in a 'type' of addiction, rather than simply 'collecting'

or we're (orderly) hoarders!

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Pretty much.

I've collected games for about 8 years and I still don't really see it as being addictive. Despite creating a lot of cool memories while in the hunt, it's really not the game hunting that I enjoy so much. More so it's the idea that I didn't have this item, and now I do. Or maybe I might not be able to have this item, and now I do have it. I'm a bit frugal and penny pinching by nature, so actually the process of game collecting is somewhat psychologically painful to me. I spend a lot of time researching and looking into the information about games that are out there. Mostly I enjoy the discovery aspect of game collecting, and then the procurement.

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