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Game/Level Editors Do You/Have You Built Anything Before?
« on: November 07, 2017, 08:21:03 pm »
I have on a different forum built some levels involving an unfinished mod I made for Duke Nukem 3D involving a unfinished adventure based on his 2nd video game Duke Nukem II. A 1992 platformer for PC. I also built a Doom Mod for deathmatch but it was also unfinished called newwave.

How many of you PC gamers download level or world editors and use them to make your own video game experience, and how many of you enjoyed it. I did but most of my levels and world I only kept for myself
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Re: Game/Level Editors Do You/Have You Built Anything Before?
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2017, 09:15:08 pm »
Nevernind, delete.  Misunderstood the topic. 
« Last Edit: November 07, 2017, 10:42:09 pm by jce3000gt »



Re: Game/Level Editors Do You/Have You Built Anything Before?
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2017, 09:17:39 pm »
The only editor I regularly played with was the Warcraft 3 editor. I never made anything of significance, I made a lot of "terrain showcase" maps, just fancy terrains for screenshots, posted a fair bit on a warcraft modding website. I tried a lot to get into the unreal editor but never got invested enough to make anything significant.

Re: Game/Level Editors Do You/Have You Built Anything Before?
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2017, 08:30:25 am »
I spent so much time in my childhood in the map editors in Timesplitters 2 and Future Perfect.


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Re: Game/Level Editors Do You/Have You Built Anything Before?
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2017, 09:30:57 am »
I made some mean tracks in Excitebike   8)


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Re: Game/Level Editors Do You/Have You Built Anything Before?
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2017, 09:32:20 am »
Didn't we just have a topic about this?

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Re: Game/Level Editors Do You/Have You Built Anything Before?
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2017, 10:48:20 am »
I have done a lot of this type of work before.

The first real project I ever attempted to do was a total conversion for Quake 3 called Gundam Quake 3. I had attempted to be project lead, and even sourced a modeller to start with. Full design of gameplay was done, and the initial testing was started. Ran into some bug issues such as models "exploding" during gameplay, but it never really got very far because everyone disappeared and I ran into some technical roadblocks that I couldn't solve.
Ref: all posts were on PlanetQuake and other forums that are no longer online
Images: none at this time, will see about posting something later.

My second project was to try a similar thing with Doom 3, except just do it in my spare time and not as a full blown project. It was an idea to have a mystery type story based on G.I.Joe. I did not get far past doing a general write up and nothing past doing some texture replacements. I do not really remember why I didn't continue on this one. T
Ref: all posts were on PlanetDoom which no longer exists.
Images:


I had also done a similar attempt to try to do a conversion of sorts for Diablo II. I had done the usual story and layout drafts, and also had been able to rename NPCs, change dialogue, create items and such... but I think the problem with this is that I did not have the skills to properly create the character animations.
Ref: all posts were on PlanetDiablo which no longer exists.
Images: none at this time

Somewhere in there I had also wanted to create Quake 3 maps based on scenes from Transformers: The Movie. This was an interesting thought but I ended up quitting due to the quality of the mapping tools available at the time and the inability to handle the complexity of the maps I wanted to make. If you haven't built a Quake 3 map before, they need to be "airtight." The design of the map is visualized best if you think of your canvas as being a block of water. You create the rooms/viewable areas inside of this water and it must not have any holes. Having a hole, even if 1 pixel large, would cause an error! And it was frustrating to fix these holes or seam issues because the tools would not always tell you where the problem was.
Ref: unknown
Images:




Note: the gun and head model in these screenshots are my normal model.

And then the last one I had worked on an had some success was NHL06. I was NHLDepot.net's official roster maker for NHL06, which involved keeping all the NHL team rosters up to date, in addition to Eliteserien, SM-Liiga and DEL. Also worked with other talented modders to create a "package" of mods required in order to make NHL06 up to date and reflect the actual game. This included updated jerseys, real life ice surfaces and boards, presentation graphics, logos, all that stuff. A result would be something like this (note: NHL06 did not have Anaheim Ducks and the Buffalo Sabres still had the black jerseys)


I ended up stopping this project because of the amount of time it took away from me. Having to monitor transactions for the NHL and the three other leagues mentioned above on a daily basis was a half an hour to 3 hours (or more for big days like draft, free agency opening period or trade deadline) and could not be skipped. Taking a day off from checking the sites would mean having to do even more work the next day, because real life does not stop just because you were tired. And it also involved reading the transaction logs for various websites, including ones in Europe where (at the time) this information was not always updated or accurate. Having to navigate websites from Finland, Sweden, Germany without knowing how to read the language and needing to cross-reference information when you aren't sure about something. Doing up-to-date rosters for a video game may actually be a full time job! And another issue is that when you take on a task like this, you end up not being able to play the game. I had started that project because I loved to play the game. But then you do all this work and you do have to launch the game to verify the files are good, but you don't have time to play, especially since the files are changing daily, you can't play a season or something because the data will change before you get to play again.
Ref: most posts on NHLDepot.net, site is still around but forums are gone.
Image of one of the editing interfaces (the packer tool)

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Re: Game/Level Editors Do You/Have You Built Anything Before?
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2017, 07:16:17 pm »
I have done a lot of this type of work before.

The first real project I ever attempted to do was a total conversion for Quake 3 called Gundam Quake 3. I had attempted to be project lead, and even sourced a modeller to start with. Full design of gameplay was done, and the initial testing was started. Ran into some bug issues such as models "exploding" during gameplay, but it never really got very far because everyone disappeared and I ran into some technical roadblocks that I couldn't solve.
Ref: all posts were on PlanetQuake and other forums that are no longer online
Images: none at this time, will see about posting something later.

My second project was to try a similar thing with Doom 3, except just do it in my spare time and not as a full blown project. It was an idea to have a mystery type story based on G.I.Joe. I did not get far past doing a general write up and nothing past doing some texture replacements. I do not really remember why I didn't continue on this one. T
Ref: all posts were on PlanetDoom which no longer exists.
Images:


I had also done a similar attempt to try to do a conversion of sorts for Diablo II. I had done the usual story and layout drafts, and also had been able to rename NPCs, change dialogue, create items and such... but I think the problem with this is that I did not have the skills to properly create the character animations.
Ref: all posts were on PlanetDiablo which no longer exists.
Images: none at this time

Somewhere in there I had also wanted to create Quake 3 maps based on scenes from Transformers: The Movie. This was an interesting thought but I ended up quitting due to the quality of the mapping tools available at the time and the inability to handle the complexity of the maps I wanted to make. If you haven't built a Quake 3 map before, they need to be "airtight." The design of the map is visualized best if you think of your canvas as being a block of water. You create the rooms/viewable areas inside of this water and it must not have any holes. Having a hole, even if 1 pixel large, would cause an error! And it was frustrating to fix these holes or seam issues because the tools would not always tell you where the problem was.
Ref: unknown
Images:




Note: the gun and head model in these screenshots are my normal model.
Hey look, it’s Bruticus! I almost owned the original character model sheet that head image comes from but the auction ended up too expensive  ;)

And neat shots of your Transformers level. I guess I should have figured you were a fan with a name like Tripredicus  8)
Are you on any Transformers boards? I’m on TFW2005.

On topic, I used to make Excitebike tracks and Wrecking Crew levels. I also made a couple of Timesplitters levels, that was pretty fun.

Re: Game/Level Editors Do You/Have You Built Anything Before?
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2017, 08:54:47 pm »
I did some Source map making back in the day for Counter-Strike and TF2.  One in particular was a remake of Waterworld from Resident Evil 4, and some other original ones.  Still up on FPSBanana to this day.  Geez, 11 years ago when I did that RE4 map lol Never did get the optimization right on it and there's so much I'd adjust now as I was winging it most of the time.  Thought about going back to map making some day, but there's no shooter I'm playing right now that has custom maps.

tripredacus

Re: Game/Level Editors Do You/Have You Built Anything Before?
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2017, 10:23:05 am »
And neat shots of your Transformers level. I guess I should have figured you were a fan with a name like Tripredicus

I'm on TFW2005 also, but I do not post there that often.
« Last Edit: November 10, 2017, 10:25:14 am by tripredacus »

Re: Game/Level Editors Do You/Have You Built Anything Before?
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2017, 08:13:32 pm »
I remember spending a number of years playing with a Mario level editor called Super Mario Brothers X. I had found it when it first came out and was with that community for almost 7 years before I finally left them.
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Re: Game/Level Editors Do You/Have You Built Anything Before?
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2017, 11:57:09 pm »
I played around with the Build editor and the Unreal level editor a few times.