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rayne315:

--- Quote from: legendary25 on August 30, 2018, 10:52:56 am ---
--- Quote from: rayne315 on August 30, 2018, 10:13:29 am ---that is almost definitely a reseal.

1. Kartia Is a Y fold sealed game. you can probably look it up on ebay or somewhere. (my work blocked it so I cant find and post a link)
2. unless I am seeing this wrong the holo foil is torn open on the top edge of the second pic.

A flat fold seal (not sure what it is actually called) it just like a Y fold but only on the top of the game where you would see the Y otherwise you will see just a straight line all the way across. sometimes it is down the other edge. but by rare I mean I only know of 1 game I have ever gotten that was sealed like it in the north American market https://vgcollect.com/item/7268 persona: Revelations.

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Kartia is a very rare game to find in New mint condition. One original sealed Y-Fold is a little damaged and the other is the reseal. Legend of Legaia also seems very rare to find New mint. I also have had trouble getting Legend of the Dragoon Black Label Y-Fold and missed an auction last week for a perfect flawless item because I didn't check eBay. I was able to get Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure.

I also have another question about PS1 games in general. What if a New game has a flawless Y-Fold Seal but no security strip or UPC Label? I was told some authorized reprints of some games were were like that.

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don't quote me on this because I do not know for certain but a google search on the end of life releases for the ps1 still shows the holo seal on everything I googled. so I would say that if it does not have the holo seal its probably a fake/repackage.

the reason I only looked at end of life releases is because reason would state that a lax standard would have come about by them pushing the ps2 over the ps1.

and as for recent re-releases/reproductions of ps1 games I personally do not consider them part of the library. so buy them at your own risk.

EDIT:
Also don't worry about missing auctions for games. if your into collecting for the long haul you will definitely find another one. Video game price charting (in case you didn't know) is a great tool for figuring out the worth of games. it has a section for sealed games and also tracks the frequency of how often they will come up for sale. so you can have an idea of how long you will have to wait before it will show back up.
hoshichiri:

--- Quote from: legendary25 on August 29, 2018, 10:55:52 pm ---Can you look at this picture of a game and tell me if you think it is brand new or if it was resealed?


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I'm thinking that's a reseal too- see how the white/holofoil part there is wrinkled? It should be smooth- wrinkles indicate an aftermarket heat application.

In theory, it could just be a store resealing something a dumb customer peeled open since that label is there... but considering you can open a disc without removing that seal by popping the hinges off, it doesn't mean the discs are in there.
sworddude:

--- Quote from: hoshichiri on August 30, 2018, 02:23:21 pm ---
--- Quote from: legendary25 on August 29, 2018, 10:55:52 pm ---Can you look at this picture of a game and tell me if you think it is brand new or if it was resealed?


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I'm thinking that's a reseal too- see how the white/holofoil part there is wrinkled? It should be smooth- wrinkles indicate an aftermarket heat application.

In theory, it could just be a store resealing something a dumb customer peeled open since that label is there... but considering you can open a disc without removing that seal by popping the hinges off, it doesn't mean the discs are in there.

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For factory sealed collectors a reseal has no added value it might just be a mint unused copy at best but as far as value goes it might just be the same as a used copy in very nice shape. Only for some cardboard releases (nintendo) does a reseal add some value but only because the cardboard box might be in a way better shape than even the best used copies out there since the wrapping did protect the box.

If you are a factory sealed collector a reseal is a no go the value is not even the issue here. It's just the simple fact that the item is not the pristine untouched item that one is looking for not to mention not the original plastic seal wich should protect the item fresh from the factory. Reseals are more for people who want excellent condition items wanting to play the game wich in some cases can turn bad if stores swapped disc by mistake back in the day. Most resealed games are opened before they are being sold for such reasons and since in general the value isn't more than a used copy in mint or excellent shape.
oldgamerz:
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Listen I buy new sealed CD's often (just not games). And according to the various photos of this game Kartia. It looks like the outer clear seal could  definitely be a resealed copy.  but the disc/game may still be untouched if the white label strip appears to be wrinkled, but not opened. And that could mean it is unopened. (if you want to be sure it is authentic) Check to see if the white label has been re-taped or has a cut in it? This could be just another common used and opened game. if indeed that game just opens up without the 2nd seal keeping it stuck together under light force

But unfortunately you might have to break the clear seal to tell if this game has the white second seal broken. Or somehow re-taped or glued shut, and if that 2nd seal is indeed broken then definitely  someone has already been into this video game case before. I am sorry about this but It don't look to promising for legendary25 in this case.

Most CD's and Sealed PS1 games come with a hard to open seal that is tightly rapped around the CD or game case. But in this case the main/first seal appears false in my experience with both most new PS1 games and hard case Music CD's.
betelgeuse:
I actually think that Kartia photo you have listed is legit. All the copies I've seen with that style shrink wrap have a seam running up the back of package. There are quite a few multi disc Playstation games out there that don't have the Y-seal or have both types.

All of the single disc games I've seen have the Y-seal and security tab. Depending on where you bought them, some of the later release single disc versions, may or may not have a hang tab on the back (Final Fantasy Origins for example).

The long box sealed games are not as easy to spot a reseal. There aren't any security stickers and have many variations. Games like Kileak, Street Fighter the Movie, Rayman had a crinkly shrink wrap like many of the games in the early Saturn cases. The stretchable style shrink wrap was used on many of the cardboard and plastic spine boxes. If you come across a Psychic Detective, the transparent tape under the shrink wrap holding the box sealed is normal.

I personally only buy the Greatest Hits versions if that's the only option available, like Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution PS2. If you're a completionist or don't care which version you have, that's up to you. It's your collection.

The shrink wrap is not always going to be perfect and the security stickers won't always be aligned either. The occasional misprint like FFVII is obviously out there as well.

These are some of the multi-disc jewel case games I know of that have the standard shrink wrap. I'm sure there are many more. Please note, some of these also have Y-seam versions as well. Hopefully other PS1 collectors chime in here to add to the list.

All of these have hang tabs.

Brave Fencer Musashi
Kartia The Word of Fate- center seam
Legend of Dragoon
Legend of Legaia- center seam
Space Hulk Vengeance of the Blood Angels
Star Ocean The Second Story
Suikoden
Tobal No. 1- center seam
Vandal Hearts
Vanguard Bandits- silver Lunar 2 demo sticker on cover
Wild Arms- center seam
Yu-Gi-Oh! Forbidden Memories Premium edition- yellow premium edition sticker on cover

Good luck on your collection
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