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mastodon:

--- Quote from: tirade78 on December 14, 2018, 08:15:17 am ---Well since mastodon brought it up perhaps I can give anyone who reads this reply a few of my recommendations for anyone wanting to get into the PC-Engine / TurboGrafx-16 hardware.

First off, some of the best games to come out for this platform on HuCard format were not released outside of Japan so if you're looking to play these without needing to mod the console or get a converter, I would recommend picking up a PC-Engine system from Japan like the gray Core-Grafx console. These usually run around 100$ on Ebay but I've seen some going for less than that. An all-round solution would be to try and pick up a Turbo-Duo RX system which affords you the ability to play Japanese HuCards and Turbo CD's (Super CD's on older drives require the System 3 Card and these are pretty expensive) without modding but these go into high money territory and unfortunately the optical CD drives on these systems are a bit finicky and break down over time, or at least from what I've heard. A more viable option would be to pick up a used TurboGrafx-16 if you are only interested in playing NA releases and then invest in a Turbo Everdrive to play the Japanese titles. Finally, speaking from personal experience, I don't recommend getting a PAL region console unless you're into collecting due to the fact that these operate at 50HZ and run on 220V and don't have CD support. The games run slower and because of the PAL video signal the image is slightly stretched. I picked one up new in box a few years back and got myself an Everdrive but the slower framerate and audio ruined the experience for me.

Anyways, you can always go the route of emulation even if you decide to pick up the original CD's like Rondo of Blood since these can be run from a PC optical drive with no issues. This is how I've been enjoying these games for the past couple of years and allows me to focus on acquiring the games and not investing in the hardware and all the costs and hassles involved. Besides that, the original turbo pads are not very comfortable to play with the original hardware and these days owning a system is more of a collector/nostalgia trend and not as viable for anyone who just wants to play the games and have fun.

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I have seen region mods and AV mods for these. Do these get modded to RGB or S-Video? Have you heard of anyone using these with a Framemeister?
aliensstudios:

--- Quote from: mastodon on December 20, 2018, 03:22:28 am ---
--- Quote from: tirade78 on December 14, 2018, 08:15:17 am ---Well since mastodon brought it up perhaps I can give anyone who reads this reply a few of my recommendations for anyone wanting to get into the PC-Engine / TurboGrafx-16 hardware.

First off, some of the best games to come out for this platform on HuCard format were not released outside of Japan so if you're looking to play these without needing to mod the console or get a converter, I would recommend picking up a PC-Engine system from Japan like the gray Core-Grafx console. These usually run around 100$ on Ebay but I've seen some going for less than that. An all-round solution would be to try and pick up a Turbo-Duo RX system which affords you the ability to play Japanese HuCards and Turbo CD's (Super CD's on older drives require the System 3 Card and these are pretty expensive) without modding but these go into high money territory and unfortunately the optical CD drives on these systems are a bit finicky and break down over time, or at least from what I've heard. A more viable option would be to pick up a used TurboGrafx-16 if you are only interested in playing NA releases and then invest in a Turbo Everdrive to play the Japanese titles. Finally, speaking from personal experience, I don't recommend getting a PAL region console unless you're into collecting due to the fact that these operate at 50HZ and run on 220V and don't have CD support. The games run slower and because of the PAL video signal the image is slightly stretched. I picked one up new in box a few years back and got myself an Everdrive but the slower framerate and audio ruined the experience for me.

Anyways, you can always go the route of emulation even if you decide to pick up the original CD's like Rondo of Blood since these can be run from a PC optical drive with no issues. This is how I've been enjoying these games for the past couple of years and allows me to focus on acquiring the games and not investing in the hardware and all the costs and hassles involved. Besides that, the original turbo pads are not very comfortable to play with the original hardware and these days owning a system is more of a collector/nostalgia trend and not as viable for anyone who just wants to play the games and have fun.

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I have seen region mods and AV mods for these. Do these get modded to RGB or S-Video? Have you heard of anyone using these with a Framemeister?

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I believe most a/v mods opt for the Sega Genesis model 2 port which supports RGB and composite video but if you sits you can get it modded for S-Video too. You can also use HD Retrovision's Sega Genesis component cables which give nearly identical results to RGB albeit in component video. It should work fine with the Framemeister. I use a PCB which plugs into the back of my PCE and output component to my Framemeister and it looks pretty great.
masamune:
I wish I bought a Turbografx system in its heyday. I remember seeing them at Toys R Us for $50 near the end of its run in the U.S.
shadowzero:

--- Quote from: aliensstudios on December 21, 2018, 11:41:35 pm ---
--- Quote from: mastodon on December 20, 2018, 03:22:28 am ---
--- Quote from: tirade78 on December 14, 2018, 08:15:17 am ---Well since mastodon brought it up perhaps I can give anyone who reads this reply a few of my recommendations for anyone wanting to get into the PC-Engine / TurboGrafx-16 hardware.

First off, some of the best games to come out for this platform on HuCard format were not released outside of Japan so if you're looking to play these without needing to mod the console or get a converter, I would recommend picking up a PC-Engine system from Japan like the gray Core-Grafx console. These usually run around 100$ on Ebay but I've seen some going for less than that. An all-round solution would be to try and pick up a Turbo-Duo RX system which affords you the ability to play Japanese HuCards and Turbo CD's (Super CD's on older drives require the System 3 Card and these are pretty expensive) without modding but these go into high money territory and unfortunately the optical CD drives on these systems are a bit finicky and break down over time, or at least from what I've heard. A more viable option would be to pick up a used TurboGrafx-16 if you are only interested in playing NA releases and then invest in a Turbo Everdrive to play the Japanese titles. Finally, speaking from personal experience, I don't recommend getting a PAL region console unless you're into collecting due to the fact that these operate at 50HZ and run on 220V and don't have CD support. The games run slower and because of the PAL video signal the image is slightly stretched. I picked one up new in box a few years back and got myself an Everdrive but the slower framerate and audio ruined the experience for me.

Anyways, you can always go the route of emulation even if you decide to pick up the original CD's like Rondo of Blood since these can be run from a PC optical drive with no issues. This is how I've been enjoying these games for the past couple of years and allows me to focus on acquiring the games and not investing in the hardware and all the costs and hassles involved. Besides that, the original turbo pads are not very comfortable to play with the original hardware and these days owning a system is more of a collector/nostalgia trend and not as viable for anyone who just wants to play the games and have fun.

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I have seen region mods and AV mods for these. Do these get modded to RGB or S-Video? Have you heard of anyone using these with a Framemeister?

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I believe most a/v mods opt for the Sega Genesis model 2 port which supports RGB and composite video but if you sits you can get it modded for S-Video too. You can also use HD Retrovision's Sega Genesis component cables which give nearly identical results to RGB albeit in component video. It should work fine with the Framemeister. I use a PCB which plugs into the back of my PCE and output component to my Framemeister and it looks pretty great.

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I use the HD Retrovision's Sega Genesis component cables for my modded TG-16 and it does look very nice.  However, it does NOT work with every TV.  Just because your TV has component ports on the back doesn't mean this will work.  It has something to do with up scaling the signal.  They explain it all very clearly on their website.
aliensstudios:

--- Quote from: shadowzero on January 06, 2019, 10:32:20 am ---
--- Quote from: aliensstudios on December 21, 2018, 11:41:35 pm ---
--- Quote from: mastodon on December 20, 2018, 03:22:28 am ---
--- Quote from: tirade78 on December 14, 2018, 08:15:17 am ---Well since mastodon brought it up perhaps I can give anyone who reads this reply a few of my recommendations for anyone wanting to get into the PC-Engine / TurboGrafx-16 hardware.

First off, some of the best games to come out for this platform on HuCard format were not released outside of Japan so if you're looking to play these without needing to mod the console or get a converter, I would recommend picking up a PC-Engine system from Japan like the gray Core-Grafx console. These usually run around 100$ on Ebay but I've seen some going for less than that. An all-round solution would be to try and pick up a Turbo-Duo RX system which affords you the ability to play Japanese HuCards and Turbo CD's (Super CD's on older drives require the System 3 Card and these are pretty expensive) without modding but these go into high money territory and unfortunately the optical CD drives on these systems are a bit finicky and break down over time, or at least from what I've heard. A more viable option would be to pick up a used TurboGrafx-16 if you are only interested in playing NA releases and then invest in a Turbo Everdrive to play the Japanese titles. Finally, speaking from personal experience, I don't recommend getting a PAL region console unless you're into collecting due to the fact that these operate at 50HZ and run on 220V and don't have CD support. The games run slower and because of the PAL video signal the image is slightly stretched. I picked one up new in box a few years back and got myself an Everdrive but the slower framerate and audio ruined the experience for me.

Anyways, you can always go the route of emulation even if you decide to pick up the original CD's like Rondo of Blood since these can be run from a PC optical drive with no issues. This is how I've been enjoying these games for the past couple of years and allows me to focus on acquiring the games and not investing in the hardware and all the costs and hassles involved. Besides that, the original turbo pads are not very comfortable to play with the original hardware and these days owning a system is more of a collector/nostalgia trend and not as viable for anyone who just wants to play the games and have fun.

--- End quote ---

I have seen region mods and AV mods for these. Do these get modded to RGB or S-Video? Have you heard of anyone using these with a Framemeister?

--- End quote ---
I believe most a/v mods opt for the Sega Genesis model 2 port which supports RGB and composite video but if you sits you can get it modded for S-Video too. You can also use HD Retrovision's Sega Genesis component cables which give nearly identical results to RGB albeit in component video. It should work fine with the Framemeister. I use a PCB which plugs into the back of my PCE and output component to my Framemeister and it looks pretty great.

--- End quote ---

I use the HD Retrovision's Sega Genesis component cables for my modded TG-16 and it does look very nice.  However, it does NOT work with every TV.  Just because your TV has component ports on the back doesn't mean this will work.  It has something to do with up scaling the signal.  They explain it all very clearly on their website.

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Yeah, I've ran into this issue before with my old 720p LG TV which I now use as a computer monitor. It would not accept 240p signal over component at all, but running it through a component to hdmi converter did the trick. My Samsung does accept 240p over component and I was using that for SNES and Genesis for a good while and was happy with it. A bit later I won an eBay auction for a used Framemeister for 180 bucks and have been using it ever since and won't look back.
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