General and Gaming => Classic Video Games => Topic started by: sin2beta on September 30, 2013, 10:39:03 pm
Title: The Most Legendary Collector
Post by: sin2beta on September 30, 2013, 10:39:03 pm
Is there a collector whose name you are kind of in awe of? Someone you are just completely envious of their knowledge? Someone that if you met, you would be a little starstruck? Now, I mean strictly on collector status. If there is a youtube guy that you think fits the bill in terms of collector, list them. If it's because you like their funny videos, list someone else. I'm talking collectors.
For me, it is Mike Etler. I used to walk around with his rarity guide and even tried to memorize it when I was a kid. It was his work and tsr's web page that defined a few years of my life. I used to collect Nintendo pretty seriously in the 90s and this site was something I read over and over. I consider Mike Etler one of the pioneers of game collecting and NES knowledge.
So, do you guys have anyone who you think beats Mike Etler? Anyone used to hangout on tsr's NES archive?
Title: Re: The Most Legendary Collector
Post by: naicigam on September 30, 2013, 10:48:22 pm
This is it: close the topic! ;D
Cheers!
Title: Re: The Most Legendary Collector
Post by: 90snostalga on September 30, 2013, 10:52:18 pm
I agree with this but I would also say when it comes to knowledge about Sega on this site, its sin2beta! ;D
Title: Re: The Most Legendary Collector
Post by: disgaeniac on October 01, 2013, 09:31:12 am
Nope.
I doubt that I'd even *recognize* the name of any other collectors (other then my friends here)!
I never "got" the whole "celebrity" thing...in ANY field and/or area.
I know some, I've met some (mostly in Rehabs:), Hell - I'm even friends with & in contact with some -and- none of them have ever struck me as anything other/different than anyone else that I'm friends with/have spent time with :o
Title: Re: The Most Legendary Collector
Post by: burningdoom on October 01, 2013, 12:36:47 pm
Gamester81 on YouTube. If it's rare and collectible, and it has to do with video games, he has it. Especially when it comes to the rare hardware. This guy has stuff you've NEVER heard of.
I'm subscribed to his channel. It's always cool to see his hardware reviews.
Here's a tour video of his game room, but this isn't normally his type of video. He usually does hardware reviews and the occasional game review:
Title: Re: The Most Legendary Collector
Post by: varkias on October 01, 2013, 02:50:16 pm
DreamTR on Nintendo Age. He foresaw how NES collecting would blow up and from what I understand has owned almost all of the known Gold Nintendo World Championship carts at one point. Has MANY 100% complete collections and I believe owns an arcade.
Title: Re: The Most Legendary Collector
Post by: turf on October 01, 2013, 02:56:04 pm
One of the biggest collectors I know of has to be our very own The Flea. Dude has to be in the top 1% of all collectors out there.
Who's that dude that has been on the All Gen Gamers Podcast several times? Gamester81 did a walkthrough of this dude's collection. He has several full sets including NES, SNES, and Genesis. I can't remember his name though.
*edit: Dude's name is John Hancock. Check out Gamester81's video with him on YouTube.
Title: Re: The Most Legendary Collector
Post by: 90snostalga on October 01, 2013, 04:49:28 pm
One of the biggest collectors I know of has to be our very own The Flea. Dude has to be in the top 1% of all collectors out there.
Who's that dude that has been on the All Gen Gamers Podcast several times? Gamester81 did a walkthrough of this dude's collection. He has several full sets including NES, SNES, and Genesis. I can't remember his name though.
*edit: Dude's name is John Hancock. Check out Gamester81's video with him on YouTube.
Who is the flea???
Title: Re: The Most Legendary Collector
Post by: turf on October 01, 2013, 05:02:40 pm
One of the biggest collectors I know of has to be our very own The Flea. Dude has to be in the top 1% of all collectors out there.
Who's that dude that has been on the All Gen Gamers Podcast several times? Gamester81 did a walkthrough of this dude's collection. He has several full sets including NES, SNES, and Genesis. I can't remember his name though.
*edit: Dude's name is John Hancock. Check out Gamester81's video with him on YouTube.
He's done a few different "rare games" videos with John Hancock. The guy seems to be a really likable guy, too, that would be a cool guy to hang out with.
I've always wondered if that's really his name or not, though.
Title: Re: The Most Legendary Collector
Post by: soera on October 01, 2013, 09:14:08 pm
DreamTR on Nintendo Age. He foresaw how NES collecting would blow up and from what I understand has owned almost all of the known Gold Nintendo World Championship carts at one point. Has MANY 100% complete collections and I believe owns an arcade.
You are spot on about DreamTR. His name is Jason and he does own an arcade in TN as well as owned close to half of the Gold NWCs and probably a dozen or so of the grays as well. Not to mention he is one of the best known sources of prototypes anywhere. He was the person I was going to mention.
Title: Re: The Most Legendary Collector
Post by: stuntman64 on October 02, 2013, 08:36:15 am
fingamer on youtbe has a lot. I don't know about repeats, he has a game room and his living room.
Title: Re: The Most Legendary Collector
Post by: tripredacus on October 02, 2013, 01:54:58 pm
One of the biggest collectors I know of has to be our very own The Flea. Dude has to be in the top 1% of all collectors out there.
Who's that dude that has been on the All Gen Gamers Podcast several times? Gamester81 did a walkthrough of this dude's collection. He has several full sets including NES, SNES, and Genesis. I can't remember his name though.
*edit: Dude's name is John Hancock. Check out Gamester81's video with him on YouTube.
He's done a few different "rare games" videos with John Hancock. The guy seems to be a really likable guy, too, that would be a cool guy to hang out with.
I've always wondered if that's really his name or not, though.
John seems like an awesome guy for sure and his sega collections are amazing. I bought his dvds a couple years back and they were excellent. Watching them always helps me refocus my collection >:]
Title: Re: The Most Legendary Collector
Post by: darko on October 02, 2013, 10:11:36 pm
I've met a lot of the people that you guys have mentioned and I can say this - they ALL have amazing collections. I have a few that I respect more than others, but don't have specific links to many of them. While I totally get having a complete set - I've just come to the realization that I enjoy collections that have a lot of really, really nice items over volume. I know a gentleman with somewhere between 8K and 12K games at any given moment and I just really don't see myself going that far. Who knows, maybe I'll win $200 million and go nuts, but for me it's more about quality.
Title: Re: The Most Legendary Collector
Post by: disgaeniac on October 03, 2013, 09:54:08 am
I've met a lot of the people that you guys have mentioned and I can say this - they ALL have amazing collections. I have a few that I respect more than others, but don't have specific links to many of them. While I totally get having a complete set - I've just come to the realization that I enjoy collections that have a lot of really, really nice items over volume. I know a gentleman with somewhere between 8K and 12K games at any given moment and I just really don't see myself going that far. Who knows, maybe I'll win $200 million and go nuts, but for me it's more about quality.
Absolutely
Title: Re: The Most Legendary Collector
Post by: turf on October 03, 2013, 10:05:47 am
I've met a lot of the people that you guys have mentioned and I can say this - they ALL have amazing collections. I have a few that I respect more than others, but don't have specific links to many of them. While I totally get having a complete set - I've just come to the realization that I enjoy collections that have a lot of really, really nice items over volume. I know a gentleman with somewhere between 8K and 12K games at any given moment and I just really don't see myself going that far. Who knows, maybe I'll win $200 million and go nuts, but for me it's more about quality.
Absolutely
I'm an idiot though. I want to have a massive QUANTITY of QUALITY games! If I have ALL the games, then there are sure to be some good ones in there.
Title: Re: The Most Legendary Collector
Post by: disgaeniac on October 03, 2013, 11:35:48 am
I've met a lot of the people that you guys have mentioned and I can say this - they ALL have amazing collections. I have a few that I respect more than others, but don't have specific links to many of them. While I totally get having a complete set - I've just come to the realization that I enjoy collections that have a lot of really, really nice items over volume. I know a gentleman with somewhere between 8K and 12K games at any given moment and I just really don't see myself going that far. Who knows, maybe I'll win $200 million and go nuts, but for me it's more about quality.
Absolutely
I'm an idiot though. I want to have a massive QUANTITY of QUALITY games! If I have ALL the games, then there are sure to be some good ones in there.
Very True!
...But...
By doing it "that" way - you're bound to also end-up with exponentially more 'filler' & 'fluff' games; that you don't really give a shit about VS being more selective 'n' picky about your purchases...while you may end-up w/ a larger collection/amount of total games - like you're saying - I bet you that if you were to compare the quality & valuable items, side by side w/ someone who's just been carefully & consistently hunting-down & acquiring a more *focused* quality collection...that by doing it 'your' way...you'll end-up spending more money to wind up w/ the same games; no?! :o
Title: Re: The Most Legendary Collector
Post by: turf on October 03, 2013, 11:46:09 am
I was joking. I'm actually in the middle of this right now. I still want to try to get every NES game; but my SNES, Master System, etc. collections are way more selective.
Title: Re: The Most Legendary Collector
Post by: darko on October 03, 2013, 02:05:06 pm
I was joking. I'm actually in the middle of this right now. I still want to try to get every NES game; but my SNES, Master System, etc. collections are way more selective.
I can tell you this - unless you're a glutton for punishment - I would never, ever, ever go for a CIB SNES set. It's my favorite system ever and I wouldn't even think about it. Not only did they produce some absolute garbage for the system - but some of that garbage is extremely expensive versus Master System, NES, N64, etc. I haven't done the math, but I would guess that it's in the top 5, maybe even top 3, most expensive sets to obtain.
It's really easy to drop a grand on CIB SNES games and not even put a dent in the titles you actually want. That being said - there are a ton of great games to obtain - so if you had a grand lying around I wouldn't tell you not to spend it :)
Title: Re: The Most Legendary Collector
Post by: scott on October 03, 2013, 04:58:22 pm
I've become much more quality over quantity lately. Originally I wanted to get as close to a full set of Game Boy games as possible and a full set of Saturn games. But it's just not feasible for me. I'm still debating on putting a lot together of my unwanted Saturn games and trimming it down to a "best of" collection.
Even my PS3 collection, which as grown by leaps over the last year is becoming super selective. Originally I wanted to get every PS3 exclusive title that was available. But honestly, not all of them look appealing to me. Instead of buying every game that is tagged "Only on PlayStation", I've found myself doing tons of research on them to see if it's something I'd enjoy playing.
Title: Re: The Most Legendary Collector
Post by: theflea on October 06, 2013, 02:28:18 am
He's a member of this forum. If you want to give his collection a good look http://vgcollect.com/theflea (http://vgcollect.com/theflea)
Is this "TheFlea" the same as SpaceFlea I've seen on other forums?
Aw i feel special, Everyone wants me to make videos and I'm talking to someone about filming and maybe I'll make some videos on my collection one day. No I never went by the name SpaceFlea on any forums.
Title: Re: The Most Legendary Collector
Post by: soera on October 06, 2013, 12:26:52 pm
Spaceflea is on Sega Age and he is pretty much Sega only. He lives in Oklahoma actually and we have talked a few times.
Title: Re: The Most Legendary Collector
Post by: insektmute on October 15, 2013, 11:21:41 pm
I mainly respect individuals whose collections exhibit some kind of discernable taste, which doesn't apply to the Collect All the Things types most of the time. A friend of mine in NYC has a fantastic collection of games, mostly focused on Japanese platformers and RPGs, and Kimimi here on VGC has an absolutely staggering assortment of Chinese and Japanese games, along with an ever-growing lot of arcade boards.
I'm certainly not starstruck (sorry, Kimimi ^.^), but it's inspiring to see people like them who act almost like curators, carefully choosing what goes and doesn't go into their collections, while people who fill theirs with random crap seem more like compulsive hoarders. Quality over quantity wins out every time.
Title: Re: The Most Legendary Collector
Post by: scott on October 16, 2013, 12:33:52 am
Aww I was expecting Soera to have already edited a quote of your reply with his name and Dragon Quest collection.... Dude's slipping.
Title: Re: The Most Legendary Collector
Post by: soera on October 16, 2013, 08:21:55 am
Hah Im tired is all. :P
Title: Re: The Most Legendary Collector
Post by: disgaeniac on October 16, 2013, 09:49:31 am
I mainly respect individuals whose collections exhibit some kind of discernable taste, which doesn't apply to the Collect All the Things types most of the time. A friend of mine in NYC has a fantastic collection of games, mostly focused on Japanese platformers and RPGs, and Kimimi here on VGC has an absolutely staggering assortment of Chinese and Japanese games, along with an ever-growing lot of arcade boards.
I'm certainly not starstruck (sorry, Kimimi ^.^), but it's inspiring to see people like them who act almost like curators, carefully choosing what goes and doesn't go into their collections, while people who fill theirs with random crap seem more like compulsive hoarders. Quality over quantity wins out every time.
I Don't think you have to worry about Kimimi reading a post of yours here...haven't seen her (around here) in ages :(
Title: Re: The Most Legendary Collector
Post by: insektmute on October 16, 2013, 03:34:19 pm
Aw, too bad. She posts a few times a day on Twitter, but I think she's just been focused on her blog and hanging out with her kiddo lately :)
Title: Re: The Most Legendary Collector
Post by: burningdoom on October 16, 2013, 04:59:35 pm
I mainly respect individuals whose collections exhibit some kind of discernable taste, which doesn't apply to the Collect All the Things types most of the time. A friend of mine in NYC has a fantastic collection of games, mostly focused on Japanese platformers and RPGs, and Kimimi here on VGC has an absolutely staggering assortment of Chinese and Japanese games, along with an ever-growing lot of arcade boards.
I'm certainly not starstruck (sorry, Kimimi ^.^), but it's inspiring to see people like them who act almost like curators, carefully choosing what goes and doesn't go into their collections, while people who fill theirs with random crap seem more like compulsive hoarders. Quality over quantity wins out every time.
I'd love to have my collection full of titles like Earthbound and Panzer Dragoon Saga. But our budgets limit many of us. We can't all own a Magnavox Odyssey and Neo Geo AES. (And this is also why I don't have all my games complete in original boxes, I buy them to play them)
Title: Re: The Most Legendary Collector
Post by: insektmute on October 17, 2013, 12:04:47 am
I'd love to have my collection full of titles like Earthbound and Panzer Dragoon Saga. But our budgets limit many of us. We can't all own a Magnavox Odyssey and Neo Geo AES. (And this is also why I don't have all my games complete in original boxes, I buy them to play them)
I'm not talking about just the most rare and prestigous games or anything though, I'm just saying it's better to have a purpose to your collection, y'know? If you love video games, and are buying video games, doesn't it make more sense top buy games that actually interest you, instead of like, 30 Pong clones that will just sit on a shelf and collect dust because they're rare and serve almost no purpose beyond historical curiousity?
You mentioned the Magnavox Odyssey... how many people who own one these days ever actually play the thing, or have a real fondness for even a single game released for it?
Title: Re: The Most Legendary Collector
Post by: sin2beta on October 17, 2013, 01:07:21 am
I'd love to have my collection full of titles like Earthbound and Panzer Dragoon Saga. But our budgets limit many of us. We can't all own a Magnavox Odyssey and Neo Geo AES. (And this is also why I don't have all my games complete in original boxes, I buy them to play them)
I'm not talking about just the most rare and prestigous games or anything though, I'm just saying it's better to have a purpose to your collection, y'know? If you love video games, and are buying video games, doesn't it make more sense top buy games that actually interest you, instead of like, 30 Pong clones that will just sit on a shelf and collect dust because they're rare and serve almost no purpose beyond historical curiousity?
You mentioned the Magnavox Odyssey... how many people who own one these days ever actually play the thing, or have a real fondness for even a single game released for it?
I like the guys who own 30 pong clones if they really know their stuff. Not just buying them. But buying them because they find them fascinating and want to learn more about them. They don't even have to enjoy pong. They could just find them interesting. That's what I like about Mike Etler. I don't know how much stuff he owns. That's irrelevant. The thing that made him legendary was his work on cataloging and working and determining rarity. As far as I know, he was the first. That's bad@$$.
I personally don't get starstruck by collections. I get starstruck by knowledge.
Now, I am curious about what Mike Etler owns. Most of the rarity comes from going to flea markets and such. This was in New Jersey in the mid 90s. There wasn't a lot of reason to lie. His list wasn't getting viewed much and this got corrected fast. But his first version had stadium events listed as a B in rarity... I would expect these to be found in New Jersey and the Northeast a little more readily. And they have turned up in flea markets. I'm curious if he ran across a few early on or if it was just a typo... anyways.
Title: Re: The Most Legendary Collector
Post by: burningdoom on October 17, 2013, 01:09:14 pm
I'd love to have my collection full of titles like Earthbound and Panzer Dragoon Saga. But our budgets limit many of us. We can't all own a Magnavox Odyssey and Neo Geo AES. (And this is also why I don't have all my games complete in original boxes, I buy them to play them)
I'm not talking about just the most rare and prestigous games or anything though, I'm just saying it's better to have a purpose to your collection, y'know? If you love video games, and are buying video games, doesn't it make more sense top buy games that actually interest you, instead of like, 30 Pong clones that will just sit on a shelf and collect dust because they're rare and serve almost no purpose beyond historical curiousity?
You mentioned the Magnavox Odyssey... how many people who own one these days ever actually play the thing, or have a real fondness for even a single game released for it?
No, I wouldn't own 30 pong clones. I own one, because I'm really into the history of gaming (I own a few books on it, too), and having 1 lets me have a piece of that history. But having 30, yeah, that's overkill. I also don't buy 2 of the same game (unless there's also a handheld version and I want it on the go). To me, buying 2 of the same game is a waste of money that I could have spent on a game I don't already own, and 30 Pong clones falls into that same line of thinking.
However I would ABSOLUTELY LOVE to own a Magnavox Odyssey. Who wouldn't want to own the first console ever made? That's like owning the first car ever made or the first t.v. model ever made. That's just cool.
And while a focused library looks cool, it doesn't do much for me for playability. Yes, I'm a game collector, but I'm not the type that collects them just to show them off. I collect to play them. And as a result, I want a nice, varied collection to play. I might feel like a deep RPG one day, but then after beating it I might be sick of that and want to play a mindless button-masher. Or maybe I'm in the mood for a quick racing game, or a fighting game against a buddy. Maybe I want to beat my high score at Pin-Bot another day. Variety is the spice of life.
Title: Re: The Most Legendary Collector
Post by: tpugmire on October 21, 2013, 07:48:03 pm
I don't really care what/how much anyone owns. What impresses me is knowledge. There are three names that stand out to me when I think of knowledgeable collectors. The first one is a person on digitalpress. When reading various posts of his, he really struck me as really knowing what he was talking about. His name on digitalpress is KitsuneSniper, you know him as Foxhack.
The next person, I also became aware of on digitalpress, but I've ran into him elsewhere on the internet. His name is Satoshimatrix, and I am continually impressed with his knowledge of Japanese games.
The third person comes from atariage, and is one of the most knowledgeable people I've ever met when it comes to atari stuff. It only seems fitting that his name is atariboy.
Title: Re: The Most Legendary Collector
Post by: disgaeniac on October 22, 2013, 10:40:16 am
I don't really care what/how much anyone owns. What impresses me is knowledge. There are three names that stand out to me when I think of knowledgeable collectors. The first one is a person on digitalpress. When reading various posts of his, he really struck me as really knowing what he was talking about. His name on digitalpress is KitsuneSniper, you know him as Foxhack.
No shit?!
My good friend, Mike (who some of you know from "Collectors Cards & Games") knew Joe Santulli for years.
The actual brick-and-mortar 'Digital Press Store' is (now) in the northern part of my state (~a 2 hour drive for me) - it used to be *much* closer before moving north.
I've been meaning to get there & check it out for ages...Didn't know that you were involved/had anything to do with it there, Foxhack 8)