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General and Gaming => General => Topic started by: theflea on November 18, 2016, 01:03:26 am
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I've been trading games with fellow collector's / gamers for years. On this site for the most part i don't have many issues when it comes to trading. I always try and trade value for value. Some use ebay others price charting etc. Well I've been on many facebook game selling / trading sites and many times when I contact one to trade they quote me high end ebay prices and when I quote back ebay prices and tell them I will trade close to value. (Long as its close i dont care) They get upset telling me I overprice and think i'm trying to rip them off.
Today i had a guy who had a $60 game full ebay value (he quoted me its value first) and wanted to trade for a game I had that at full ebay value is going for $130. I tell him i can't do it and he had nothing else I wanted and then he gets upset. Saying my game was only worth $80. He wanted full ebay for his game but low end for mine. I feel these people want full price for their games but want reseller trade in prices for my games. If i'm doing that i'll trade it in at my local used game store.
I'm one who loves a deal and I try and work with fellow collector's when I trade, I try and trade value for value.
If you quote me high end ebay expect high end ebay back.
Am I wrong thinking this way?
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Same shit has happened to me many times; if you're going to hit me low on your item, I'm coming back at you low. If you want to go high, I'm also going high. You don't owe anyone anything, especially a person you don't know from a facebook group. I'm willing to be just as reasonable, or unreasonable as they are, and if they disagree then they can try and rip another person off, it will not be me.
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I've never really got the point of trading for the reason you've listed above. It seems like most people are trying to either trade their crap for games they would probably never get for what they're offering, or they lowball and think they'll just get an amazing deal... I've tried trading a few times in the past and i always left scratching my head at what they were thinking.
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I have traded only a few times
one example
Smash bros melee
phantasy star III
gladius
All gamecube
for paper mario thousand year doors.
Both pretty much same value here in europe around 70 - 75
Only reason for me trading it was that the paper mario sold in 3 day's for 75 while 2 of the other 3 games don't sell to fast and the 3 games are worth combined 75 + that the buyer already bought a game from me so no extra shipping costs shipping the games to him
Overall your right people try to get on the upper end with trading I would not recommend doing it to often, usually they try to offer you dollar games for quality real value titles. I don't accept trades but in some cases people do come with nice offers.
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Thats why I only trade with people I know personally.
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Can't say that I really know the feeling, because I've never traded. Never even sold a game actually. From my outsider perspective, it seems like a trade could go either way. Maybe they have something you really want, and you have something they really want. Seems like it could be doable even if the values aren't even if the want for that item is enough. If it's a lot easier to just go elsewhere and buy the same thing, then forget about it. But maybe sometimes it's not? It could be a situation where throwing in some "smalls" might sweeten the deal.
For appraising, it's kind of hard and I hate the fact that eBay is the only way to do it. I guess you'd take the median of sold listings? However, I'd bet that some collectors won't actually do that, if it looks as though asking prices are significantly higher than most of those sold... or if there is a perception that the value is climbing.
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All the time. I use the site called GameTZ to trade on. And man, so many of the people there are greedy.
I will look up values on eBay before offering a trade there, just to be sure I'm not being uneven. And more often than not, I'll get a counter-offer where they want like 5 of my games for 1 of there's. It's so frustrating.
I understand people want a deal, but when you're trading, you're not some profit-making dealer, you're just another gamer. So don't try to screw over your fellow gamer, just make a nice even trade. That's kind of the point of trading.
My BIGGEST pet-peeve with the people at that site, though, is when they just plain ignore your offer and never respond. There is a decline button. It's not that hard to click it. Drives me nuts!
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I've seen people put up pricey games for trade like rule of rose, asking for equal value trades, but they will specify that if it is not 1 for 1 (i.e. 2 $90 games for 1 $180 game) they will explicitly value their game 20%+ over retail as a sort of fee for trading up.
I have no issue trading in someone else's favor, but that's just outrageous.
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It is just people in general now. It is disappointing. I was hooking up a guy locally with some old duplicate games I have. I was giving the guy 50% of ebay pricing and sometimes even less. He was buying up everything I had. I then realized he was reselling the games for a lot more to other people. I told him I would keep selling stuff through him, but I wanted more money (since before I thought I was just helping a fellow collector). The guy flipped out and said I was greedy and then his wife called me later and told me how I had ruined her husband's life. It was straight up crazy.
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It is just people in general now. It is disappointing. I was hooking up a guy locally with some old duplicate games I have. I was giving the guy 50% of ebay pricing and sometimes even less. He was buying up everything I had. I then realized he was reselling the games for a lot more to other people. I told him I would keep selling stuff through him, but I wanted more money (since before I thought I was just helping a fellow collector). The guy flipped out and said I was greedy and then his wife called me later and told me how I had ruined her husband's life. It was straight up crazy.
Sounds horrible, and to top it off the last part ???
Than again, he might have sold most of the stuff to aquire some for free with a prfit, still horrible for the person selling it for cheap knowing the value.
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"You ruined my husbands life because you didn't sell him some 30 year old video games." Riiiiight....
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"You ruined my husbands life because you didn't sell him some 30 year old video games." Riiiiight....
He was earning money from it potentially quite allot, so a new swimming pool ain't happening anymore :o
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It is just people in general now. It is disappointing. I was hooking up a guy locally with some old duplicate games I have. I was giving the guy 50% of ebay pricing and sometimes even less. He was buying up everything I had. I then realized he was reselling the games for a lot more to other people. I told him I would keep selling stuff through him, but I wanted more money (since before I thought I was just helping a fellow collector). The guy flipped out and said I was greedy and then his wife called me later and told me how I had ruined her husband's life. It was straight up crazy.
Me greedy?! You were taking advantage of my generosity to turn a profit, so f- you buddy.. I am not the type to still my tongue when dealing with people like this. These people are only good to you until they get what they want, or you call them on their BS.
I don't trade period, for the very reason I go dollar for dollar Most people will not. Most of the time when I see trade lists it's very irritating to see a wishlist full of expensive games and a trade list full of junk. So so much so that if they traded everything on that list wouldn't even equal half of what one games value happens to be.
Oh you want Panzer Dragoon Saga, that's cool. What you got to trade? Oh, I don't think those loose Madden games are going to get you there, sorry. >:(
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Just happened again on GameTZ.
Someone offered me Star Trek: TNG Season 1 for Super R-Type and Captain Skyhawk. I agreed. Then after I agreed, he starts trying to add more games to the deal. Very frustrating, and makes me not want to trade at all.
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TBH I don't take pleasure from dealing with other collectors outside of chatting about games in general on a few message boards, everything in this hobby is so damned neurotic or plain unpleasant.
When it comes to trading I'd say no, no thanks. As you've found flea, there's no common ground and what little there is changes from person to person any way. There's no agreement on prices, even going off Ebay you're going to come up against someone quoting the out-there high BIN prices as opposed to the prices shown in completed listings.
If it's saleable I sell it, if it's worth trading at CEX it goes there, or I trade it in with one of the businesses I use who specialize in video games, then I use my unwanted stuff to generate more games without spending cash, that suits me fine.
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It is just people in general now. It is disappointing. I was hooking up a guy locally with some old duplicate games I have. I was giving the guy 50% of ebay pricing and sometimes even less. He was buying up everything I had. I then realized he was reselling the games for a lot more to other people. I told him I would keep selling stuff through him, but I wanted more money (since before I thought I was just helping a fellow collector). The guy flipped out and said I was greedy and then his wife called me later and told me how I had ruined her husband's life. It was straight up crazy.
If his life was truely ruined by you refusing to let him continue to exploit you then that's his problem for being a grade A douchebag.
This type of thing I have a very low tolerance for.
At the other end of the spectrum I sometimes struggle with the "flip it" mentality too. If I know you got Earthbound for $1 and it's the fifth one you've picked up that year I have a hard time bringing myself to pay more than original sale price (I mean the price the game cost at its original release) for the item. I understand market value and time/effort invested, etc. But part of it was simply luck. If I've been lucky I like to share that with fellow collectors that haven't been so lucky.
I've had folks on here hook me up. One guy sent me a copy of Shatterhand for free out of the blue just because he found it cheap and saw it in my wishlist (it's a $70 game right now).
The same guy hooked me up with a first print of Bayonetta 2 for the price he got it (which was half of the going rate on eBay).
For the record theflea has been pretty good to me. I've added a handful of things to my collection thanks to good (cash) deals with him.
I think it's okay to ask for what you think is fair and acceptable as the seller and it's fair to walk away if you feel it's too steep as a buyer.
I guess it's haggling I'm no good at because the way I see it typically the haggler is more often trying to con someone into a lower price just to benefit themselves. Rarely have I seen someone haggling to get something at a fair price or to correct the overpricing of an item.
That said, we've all haggled at sometime to try to tip things further in our favor. So maybe our angst with it is hypocritical? :)
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Why not just sell your games that you do not want and buy one with equal money?
I mean seriously, everyone is talking about equal value trades + shipping costs in most cases. Rarely are games actually hard to get unless on those very rare instances and you can decide if the condition is worthy enough or not. If it sells for your price you had the correct value if not your estimate is just a bit to high.
it's pretty plain and simple really.
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"You ruined my husbands life because you didn't sell him some 30 year old video games." Riiiiight....
If this is true, then this woman -REALLY- knows how to pick 'em.
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I find trading whit other game collectors is not to bad for the most part. But I find some game shops are really bad. The other day I got a extra copies of Pokemon diamond and Pokemon y both complete So I go to a local shop just to see what they would give me. They had 4 copies of diamond whit 100$ price tags. He said he can give me 40 for diamond and 14 for y. Making over a 50% profit. I understand they need to make money. And if he was going to sell it for 60$ I would of been ok getting 40.
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I find trading whit other game collectors is not to bad for the most part. But I find some game shops are really bad. The other day I got a extra copies of Pokemon diamond and Pokemon y both complete So I go to a local shop just to see what they would give me. They had 4 copies of diamond whit 100$ price tags. He said he can give me 40 for diamond and 14 for y. Making over a 50% profit. I understand they need to make money. And if he was going to sell it for 60$ I would of been ok getting 40.
Dear god go back to him and sell diamond right now... hes buying them for more than market value... they usually only go for around $25-35. I personally would never go back to that shop ever again to buy games if hes marking cib pokemon diamond games at $100 (3-4X market price)
btw he is giving more than most store would give % wise. every store I have ever been to will buy at 20-30% market value because games tend to decrease in price over time more than increase.
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Am from Canada so ya 100$ is crazy but I can sell diamond for 40 all day
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and ya he's price's are over ebay. its nuts he's asking 50 for perfect dark. and 100 for kerby n64.
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and ya he's price's are over ebay. its nuts he's asking 50 for perfect dark. and 100 for kerby n64.
How are they still in business?
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some time's there price's are ok. but i think they make most of there money selling new game's. and bootleg Pokemon plush's watch i dont know what they get away whit it
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like i was there today. and picked up chrono cross sealed for 20$ remember am Canadian so you Americans get stuff cheaper. but there Nintendo stuff is way over priced there
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like i was there today. and picked up chrono cross sealed for 20$ remember am Canadian so you Americans get stuff cheaper. but there Nintendo stuff is way over priced there
Last time I seen Chrono Cross sealed the shop was asking $50+ I'd say that was a steal.
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like i was there today. and picked up chrono cross sealed for 20$ remember am Canadian so you Americans get stuff cheaper. but there Nintendo stuff is way over priced there
Was it the Greatest Hits version or the OG black version? Either way, you got a great deal for a great game.
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it was Greatest Hits. but i don't care.