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General and Gaming => Off Topic => Topic started by: oldgamerz on December 16, 2021, 11:01:01 am
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I never played the lottery or gambled, I currently spend money on Facebook for a Christian page so it get promoted, My money goes for a good cause, why should anybody gamble for real money when you more often than not lose more then what you gain back, or if you gain anything back at all, or would you rather put that extra money for a new game or car or something?
Sometime people will toss the dice before they get their paycheck and piss it all away, instead of giving their seemingly unwanted money out for donations for homeless and people with no money or hopes of getting any money at all. I critically judge anybody who plays the lottery, I think it is stupid, sure once you actually get some money back you can feel the rush but that rush probably cost you every single dime you just spent.
It's fine do do a loto ticket if you got it for free like as a gift that is super cool, but to buy one it's kind of pointless in my own opinion.
I knew 3 people who spent their life saving on 2 things, #1 Lottery scratch offs every single day, #2 multiple packs of cigarettes. then you got people who buy stinky pot/weed/Marijuana, that is just pointless for only few a few second of getting high and sticking up your house less alone the surrounding neighborhood.
A lot of times in my own neighborhood people will smoke skunk weed, and you can smell it all the way outside of their house even when they are smoking pot on the inside with closed doors, what's the point, do any of you guys fire up a joint while you play your games, believe it or not I had a friend who would smoke a pot joint and play madden football,
Pot don't really make you stupid or anything since you need to have a brain to play madden on expert like this man did. and win every game against the CPU. on the PlayStation 2.
Then we have alcohol, how many of you drink a cold or warm beer while playing a video game, that can stink too, beer stinks, and only gives me more or a migraine headache.
So the main question is would you rather spend your money on temporary habits? or games? something else? Or do something for the poor?
Me? I buy games music and spend money on helping the poor, I am a preacher who sells words for free on Facebook and advice to Christians my Facebook page is called.
Modern Christian Believers
(edit) then I have my radio station in the link below, I am also a non profit stream broadcaster
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I always donate money monthly and I actually used to do it almost daily for like 2 or 3 months.
I keep trying to donate money at times but I am also trying to look better and focus on charities that could actually change lives and not just give a meal for one day.
Right now I am donating less but I always try to keep doing it.
I remember that last year in this month curiously I tried to buy Jikkyo Oshaberi Parodius Forever with Me because a person had an expensive price tag for it but shipping was free so I was about to give it a try because that game is also important for me and when I went to buy it....., sold out!, I didn't feel bad at all, just kinda disappointed but that's fine.
I just remember that I donated almost all the money and that's it, better luck next time and I wanted to believe I helped someone.
Merry Christmas.
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I critically judge anybody who plays the lottery, I think it is stupid, sure once you actually get some money back you can feel the rush but that rush probably cost you every single dime you just spent.
I see "Thou shalt not judge" are not among the words you " sell for free" as a preacher on Facebook.
What really was the point of this thread? You just insulted anyone and everyone that you asked to chime in outside of those who align with you.
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I critically judge anybody who plays the lottery, I think it is stupid, sure once you actually get some money back you can feel the rush but that rush probably cost you every single dime you just spent.
I see "Thou shalt not judge" are not among the words you " sell for free" as a preacher on Facebook.
What really was the point of this thread? You just insulted anyone and everyone that you asked to chime in outside of those who align with you.
I just found it annoying a couple of times at a Kroger store when I had to use customer service and I needed to wait for people to finish making their numbers for the lottery that's all, why should anybody play the lottery? I know it's their money, but they are just pissing it away while others who need it more are starving, if you want to not donate or do for a better cause why not spend it on a new video game? or a movie or something for their family? that defeats the purpose of having any money to begin with :-\
people spend $5USD for more for a ticket and more often then not don't get anything in return, if you like to gamble then why not spend that extra money on a lottery video game? it's just how I feel about that
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I feel like you just started this thread to complain about how there are people that arent as wise with their money as you.
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Charities?
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I've been to Gambler's Anonymous, AA, and others when I was a nursing student in my psych rotation and I saw what these people suffer through. People who struggle with a gambling addiction, alcoholism, tobacco addiction, whatever: A) suffer from an actual disease, B) are real people who could be your family, friends, or users of this forum, and C) deserve proper help and treatment.
What they don't deserve is an uninformed, stigmatized and frankly stupid post like this.
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If you don't want to donate then why not spend your money on something that lasts that's all I am trying to make a point, why spend any money on a lottery ticket like at all?
I help people with mine I have donated before, not all the time because I don't actually have that much but. I wanted to discuss the importance some have over a lottery ticket didn't expect to get reamed so much on a gamer forum who should value games over the lottery, I can see why some would fire up a joint yea to get high, but what does a scratch off or the lottery ever bring to you
What you spend $25USD a month or a week and probably only get $50USD won back that is as if anything at all. why go to a Casino or Las Vegas and toss the dice and lose everything, how fun is that,
whoopy I had a swing time I got drunk, I don't remember what happen but I had a swing time. and I'm flat broke
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We spend money on "entertainment" that doesn't provide anything physical in return all the time. Seeing a movie, going to an amusement park, going to a concert, and so on. How is buying a lottery ticket or going to a casino any different if it provides entertainment? If that's a valuable experience for you, go for it.
Who are you to say what experiences or things are and aren't worth someone spending money on for someone else when it's really none of your business? Like others have said, you're just being judgmental here.
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I've been to Gambler's Anonymous, AA, and others when I was a nursing student in my psych rotation and I saw what these people suffer through. People who struggle with a gambling addiction, alcoholism, tobacco addiction, whatever: A) suffer from an actual disease, B) are real people who could be your family, friends, or users of this forum, and C) deserve proper help and treatment.
What they don't deserve is an uninformed, stigmatized and frankly stupid post like this.
Telly? it says you are a PRO SUPPORTER to this website, so I don't see why you'd want to stick up for the lottery, don't you support this website? instead of a lottery ticket you know you could give that money to VGcollect, I can't because I don't have the extra money to be a PRO supporter, it does not need to be for the homeless or children. if you don't want your extra 25USD or $5 I'm sure VGcollect could use it for supporting this site,
I don't mean to treat you like this because I see your point to some degree of people having diseases is but it clearly shows you ARE a Donator so I don't see your issue with me :-\
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I am not a pot user by any means, never touched the stuff because I don't like the smell but for some people that 500 dollars on CDC oil or weed is the difference between suffering from their glaucoma and happiness of life. Some could easily say spending money on lottery tickets is about like spending 2,000 dollars a day on video games from the 80s knowing with a library that big the new game will get played and the other thousand will be neglected. Left to be looked at. So I try not to judge people when I spend thoisands on toys. We all could be doing more for others and less for ourselves. So in that sense you are right and your heart is in a good place oldgamerz :) Don't let the naysayers derail what you meant. But also to answer I did donate to #teamseas. It's a beautiful cause and I hope you look into it.
Oh god. I just found the "addiction is a disease" guy lol. I better leave this thread before I disagree with 2 people. Ask the children dying at St. Lukes if they had the choice to not boot the cancer in their viens if they had taken that and come back with that stupid selfish argument. It's not a disease, it's an action. Ive been hooked on video games to an unhealthy level. To the point id see Call of Duty in my dreams and have withdrawls if I was out. And id never compare that to the millions dying in a pandemic of all times. It's with no exaggeration disrespectful. Scientifically by the way a disease is classified and ethically. I had a choice. Lottery addicts had and still have a choice. And people with disease don't and never did.
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Telly? it says you are a PRO SUPPORTER to this website, so I don't see why you'd want to stick up for the lottery, don't you support this website? instead of a lottery ticket you know you could give that money to VGcollect, I can't because I don't have the extra money to be a PRO supporter, it does not need to be for the homeless or children. if you don't want your extra 25USD or $5 I'm sure VGcollect could use it for supporting this site,
I don't mean to treat you like this because I see your point to some degree of people having diseases is but it clearly shows you ARE a Donator so I don't see your issue with me :-\
My point is that if you want to buy a lottery ticket for fun, that's your decision and your right. Yes, there are people who spend money on things like that when they can't really afford it. That's the case for everything you can spend money on. Cars, drugs, collectables, video games, alcohol, on and on and on. People who need help with managing finances in a way that benefits their health and the health of their families and dependents should also be provided such services and not be treated like second class citizens.
But your posts show me that you are judgmental of people who suffer from addiction diseases AND people who spend their expendable income on entertainment that you don't agree with. Whether people are "charitable" or not isn't really relevant, you can donate to charity and buy a lottery ticket at the same time.
And you're judging me when I've actually never bought a lottery ticket in my entire life and you have no clue what my spending habits actually look like. ???
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Oh god. I just found the "addiction is a disease" guy lol. I better leave this thread before I disagree with 2 people. Ask the children dying at St. Lukes if they had the choice to not boot the cancer in their viens if they had taken that and come back with that stupid selfish argument. It's not a disease, it's an action. Ive been hooked on video games to an unhealthy level. To the point id see Call of Duty in my dreams and have withdrawls if I was out. And id never compare that to the millions dying in a pandemic of all times. It's with no exaggeration disrespectful. Scientifically by the way a disease is classified and ethically. I had a choice. Lottery addicts had and still have a choice. And people with disease don't and never did.
Have you read the DSM-V? Have you read anything regarding scientific and medical consensus regarding addictions disease, treatment and diagnosis over the past three decades? You have got to be kidding me.
You can also get cancer because of your "actions" FYI, like smoking. Does that make it not a disease?
Also what strange logic. Is a common cold not a disease because it's not as bad as cancer? Give me a break.
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Oh god. I just found the "addiction is a disease" guy lol. I better leave this thread before I disagree with 2 people. Ask the children dying at St. Lukes if they had the choice to not boot the cancer in their viens if they had taken that and come back with that stupid selfish argument. It's not a disease, it's an action. Ive been hooked on video games to an unhealthy level. To the point id see Call of Duty in my dreams and have withdrawls if I was out. And id never compare that to the millions dying in a pandemic of all times. It's with no exaggeration disrespectful. Scientifically by the way a disease is classified and ethically. I had a choice. Lottery addicts had and still have a choice. And people with disease don't and never did.
Have you read the DSM-V? Have you read anything regarding scientific and medical consensus regarding addictions disease, treatment and diagnosis over the past three decades? You have got to be kidding me.
Also what strange logic. Is a common cold not a disease because it's not as bad as cancer? Give me a break.
Sorry for getting passionate Telly. Just lost loved ones to both. In different ways so maybe the topic hits a nerve. I've read about the nuerological symptoms that mimmic disease in a drug addict. But that falls under "illness" not disease which I won't argue. But diseases like cold you mentioned are not only intrusive molecularly but also non consensual. Addicts have these symptons for one reason. Because they put drugs or stimuli into their system. People with disease have it because nature itself put that disease in them or hereditary factors they didnt ask for. I just find it hard to accept the guy scratching tickets in his F350 which is a luxury to begin with sit on some.soap box during a pandemic and look me with a straight face and tell me that he is on par with aids disease, cancer, ALS and any other thing is baffling to me.
But that is the beauty of life Telly and I really like you as a person :) We can agree and disagree. But while I would never bash addicts or anyone for their troubles because I do know how scary and hard that can be. I just disagree on the verbaige and classifications. Which is fine. But it's christmas soon and I do want to take it back so oldgamerz thread doesn't get locked. I apologize to all.
With that said. I guess we should all donate more and spurge less but we are all human. I do appreciate oldgamerz having the concerns for others :)
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If you read the DSM-V, which provides the standard taxonomy and diagnostic criteria of all mental disorders (at least in the United States), there are diagnoses for many different substance abuse and behavioral disorders. The overwhelming scientific and medical majority, including NIDA, is that addictions is a disease and should be treated as such. You're talking about "neurologic symptoms" as if those symptoms are somehow not indicative of a disease just like any other symptom is. Addiction changes the way your brain works so that it's more difficult to stop, and we've known that for many years. It's just as much of a pathologic change to normal function like any other disease.
Even if this weren't the case, and addiction wasn't a disease, I'm not quite understanding your fixation on "ranking" these things and then using that to arbitrarily decide which conditions are worth treating and which ones we can ignore and blame the individual for. Even though you said you would never bash addicts, you still say that they "have a choice" as if only the people who didn't "choose" their disease deserve treatment or even compassion. Like I said earlier, many diseases are a result of both a person's actions and other factors that are beyond an individual's control, both biologic and socioeconomic. It's just inaccurate to take such a hardline black and white approach to things, and in my opinion it's a very harmful way of viewing disease and illness.
Even video games are being evaluated for their ability to be addicting, though I don't think there's enough evidence yet to add it to the DSM-V. It's still being studied.
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Telly? it says you are a PRO SUPPORTER to this website, so I don't see why you'd want to stick up for the lottery, don't you support this website? instead of a lottery ticket you know you could give that money to VGcollect, I can't because I don't have the extra money to be a PRO supporter, it does not need to be for the homeless or children. if you don't want your extra 25USD or $5 I'm sure VGcollect could use it for supporting this site,
I don't mean to treat you like this because I see your point to some degree of people having diseases is but it clearly shows you ARE a Donator so I don't see your issue with me :-\
My point is that if you want to buy a lottery ticket for fun, that's your decision and your right. Yes, there are people who spend money on things like that when they can't really afford it. That's the case for everything you can spend money on. Cars, drugs, collectables, video games, alcohol, on and on and on. People who need help with managing finances in a way that benefits their health and the health of their families and dependents should also be provided such services and not be treated like second class citizens.
But your posts show me that you are judgmental of people who suffer from addiction diseases AND people who spend their expendable income on entertainment that you don't agree with. Whether people are "charitable" or not isn't really relevant, you can donate to charity and buy a lottery ticket at the same time.
And you're judging me when I've actually never bought a lottery ticket in my entire life and you have no clue what my spending habits actually look like. ???
LOL no telly I'm not nor am I asking anyone for any money either, I don't know what your spending habits are and I don't care, What I was judgeing you on was the fact that your ARE a donator and you are sticking up for the lottery, Lottery as far as I know goes to the government pit the money is not to a good cause it does nothing but make the ones who operate it richer, the lottery is pointless no hate no foul though
It just really grinds me their are homeless and sick people in the world who would die for money and stand outside of my local Kroger with bags of clothes and no where to go, while people inside of the store are buying lottery ticket making someone else richer and richer for running a scam, the lottery is a scam and the money probably goes into some kind of rich person, who probably goes to Vegas or golfs and then pisses it there anyway.
Money is worthless it does not buy happiness or love, and you could die with 1 billion dollars in your bank account and some people do so and live all by themselves with no family or no deed to someone, then the money just goes into the piss pot back into blank government funds not even for a good cause just practically burns and goes nowhere
(edit) my state lottery according to google goes into some kind of school aide fund, but education does not save lives or help the homeless so I don't care
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You say that the lottery is pointless and a waste, but there are lots of people who would also say that video games are pointless and a waste. Or anything that you spend your money on that isn't a basic necessity.
And I agree, there's a lot of injustice and inequality in this world where people have money to spend on things that seem pointless or extravagant to other people. I just don't see why the lottery (for example) is viewed with such scorn when any other form of entertainment is just as applicable. People have a right and need to be entertained. Just because it's not valuable entertainment to you isn't really relevant.
People get way too caught up and invested in what other people choose to do with their money when it doesn't affect them, and I think that's self-righteous and judgmental. That's what I'm sticking up for.
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I am not going to argue, It better to think about the enjoyment a lottery ticket brings most people _____________ AHH Disappointment of not winning over and over again, most times
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So next time you're at a Kroger, and you're watching people buy lottery tickets, think about the people that you're observing. Do you actually know anything about their spending habits or their life?
That person buying a lottery ticket may be making their only luxury purchase for that day or entire week. Or that person could be buying a lottery ticket and then the next day donating $500 to charity. Or that person could be buying tickets as gifts for friends since it's the holidays.
You're making a judgement call about someone based on what spending habits you associate with the lottery when in reality they could have spent that $25 lottery ticket at the movies and noone would bat an eye. You truly don't know enough about people to really be able to make a judgement call like that.
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Oldgamerz, do you even know anything about the lottery? In my state, the lottery revenue goes towards scholarships that any HS senior in the state can apply for...and most of those that apply get it. I've known many, many people who were able to knock out at least some of their college education because of the lottery scholarship...people who couldn't afford to go on their own. Oftentimes lottery money is used to better the lives of others. It's not just some money pit black hole (I can't speak for everywhere, mind you... different states have different policies)
Also, how the hell does one come to the conclusion that someone who supports this website can't be ok with the lottery as well? A lot of people would consider being a pro supporter a waste of money.
If you are going to be so judgmental of others, just be aware that you too may be judged...Don't complain here when that happens. People are allowed their vices, as long as they don't hurt others. Video Games and Rock Music have been looked down upon and shunned in the past.
"Judge not, that ye be not judged." -Matthew 7:1
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If you read the DSM-V, which provides the standard taxonomy and diagnostic criteria of all mental disorders (at least in the United States), there are diagnoses for many different substance abuse and behavioral disorders. The overwhelming scientific and medical majority, including NIDA, is that addictions is a disease and should be treated as such. You're talking about "neurologic symptoms" as if those symptoms are somehow not indicative of a disease just like any other symptom is. Addiction changes the way your brain works so that it's more difficult to stop, and we've known that for many years. It's just as much of a pathologic change to normal function like any other disease.
Even if this weren't the case, and addiction wasn't a disease, I'm not quite understanding your fixation on "ranking" these things and then using that to arbitrarily decide which conditions are worth treating and which ones we can ignore and blame the individual for. Even though you said you would never bash addicts, you still say that they "have a choice" as if only the people who didn't "choose" their disease deserve treatment or even compassion. Like I said earlier, many diseases are a result of both a person's actions and other factors that are beyond an individual's control, both biologic and socioeconomic. It's just inaccurate to take such a hardline black and white approach to things, and in my opinion it's a very harmful way of viewing disease and illness.
Even video games are being evaluated for their ability to be addicting, though I don't think there's enough evidence yet to add it to the DSM-V. It's still being studied.
When did I ever say addicts didn't deserve treatment and help? Even lottery addicts? That came out of nowhere and is not true. I believe both deserve medical treatment and compassion and love as any human does who needs it. But to me the verbaige is the only thing we disagree on. Same way someone who broke their leg deserves compassion. And someone who got their legs broke by someone deserves compassion and the same treatment. But they are two different broken legs. They aren't the same even if the symptoms will be the same. Because one was caused by your actions the other by someone elses or nature.
But I never once said they don't deserve help. They deserve as much help as possible.
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With that slight discrepancy aside. I agree with points everyone has made :)
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Well In my own opinion the lottery is a waste of money, my state may pay for scholarships as well but my opinion remains the same, enjoy your paper because that is all you likely to get. everyone gets judged by God anyway, there is no escaping that fate, saint or not, I don't really judge by pointing at people I judge at my own thought process, known a few scratch off addicts and never could figure out why they could not just buy more cigarettes' or something for their own enjoyment
I did ask the man why and he said sounded vary excited and said I go and buy a scratch off and scratch and scratch and I can't hardly wait to see my results, even though he was homeless and I didn't say anything I just could not believe how excited he was talking about buying spending $5USD for an opportunity to use a penny and remove a hidden letter or something even though he admitted to loseing 99.9% of the time all of his money that he spent to do that
keep buying that paper because for $5USD I buy brand new CD's that I can listen to over and over again and for the rest of my life hopefully ;D
rock music was often judged harshly by preachers and cult leaders that wanted to control people, controlling people is not my goal it's giving advice so everybody can win :)
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I hear you say they should be treated the same, but I also hear you say they are not the same people, and that attitude breeds discrimination in my opinion.
And as someone who has worked as a bedside RN I've seen Healthcare professionals judge patients behind their backs all the time, and it's frankly sad. I'm just speaking from experience here.
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I hear you say they should be treated the same, but I also hear you say they are not the same people, and that attitude breeds discrimination in my opinion.
And as someone who has worked as a bedside RN I've seen Healthcare professionals judge patients behind their backs all the time, and it's frankly sad. I'm just speaking from experience here.
Which do you have more empathy for? A guy who went kickboxing and broke his leg on a heavy bag? Or a guy who got jumped on his way from work and had his legs broke by criminals?
It's the same as the person who smokes until they get lung cancer or the person who got it from.genetics. They both deserve love. Compassion. Understanding. But to me.they are not on the same level. Since one was self inflicted.
They certainly deserve the same treatment just not the same classification or verbaige to me. But I just think that is.the only place we disagree. They certainly don't deserve judgement or mistreatment. Unequal treatment. Any of that.
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Threads like this is what happens when the Lunatics are allowed to take over the Asylum. (80's reference, FTW)
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As long as we agree that they should recieve the same level of treatment than that's all that matters to me
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I take it someone regretting buying a losing lottery ticket I know I would, I know someone is with me they are just not saying anything,
useless paper vs video game or music CD or movie Anything but a lottery ticket, look I've gone past you guys if you could care less about the unfortunate but to stick up for paper is another level.
Ok so if you were on a deserted island would you rather have a video game to play or stare at a losing lottery ticket?
why am I the bad guy?
Sylvester Stallone / John Spartan knew what to do with paper, see Demolition Man the movie.
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People who win the lottery sometimes give to charity, sometimes they go to Vegas, sometimes they do other stuff with it, but 99.9% of lottery players don't get a damn dime there just stuck with a piece of paper in their hands and to admire the colors if it's has any kind of artwork on it to begin with.
But I don't know does anyone ever collect losing lottery tickets? is there any value in them? artwork or anything worth keeping I dare ask kindly?
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I usually invest any extra money that I have (I never have much)
Other than that most of my money goes into my many hobbies and/or bills.
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I usually invest any extra money that I have (I never have much)
Other than that most of my money goes into my many hobbies and/or bills.
same :)
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Threads like this is what happens when the Lunatics are allowed to take over the Asylum. (80's reference, FTW)
Coming from the guy with not a single thread worth mention and no contributions to the forums aside from referring to other users as lunatics and a sarcastic cheap shot once every 2 weeks on threads where you look stupid because othes contribute respectfully like adults. You aren't all that and a bag of kettle chips yourself.
Momma always said if you got nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all.
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As long as we agree that they should recieve the same level of treatment than that's all that matters to me
Definitely :) Same needs and same human rights. I will never cosign them being mistreated in any way. Merry early christmas Telly.
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Threads like this is what happens when the Lunatics are allowed to take over the Asylum. (80's reference, FTW)
Wait isn't this the guy that trash talked users battling depression last year during a pandemic? Literally a user claiming they were in a bad place you'd come with pessmism to make their climb just that extra inch higher? I remember reading things days when my skin wasn't as thick and being close to giving up. Don't think I forgot the shell of a man you are in the face of instances where this community seeked a humanly loving route. Isn't this the guy that registered the same year as oldgamerz yet oldgamerz has 10x as much engagement as you? Ouch. Quite frankly it's every post I make now. Which is fine. But not oldgamerz. He can disagree with you but he's a good person. He's been nothing but nice to all of you. And he deserves respect. Not to mention he has made good posts with tons of worthy debates and you haven't. And probably never will.
"Judge not, that ye be not judged." -Matthew 7:1. This quote aged well.
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I've went back and forth with @wolff242 before on this forum ::) I know because I remember him as a wolf no pun intended, he or she does make rude statements has done so in the past, I disagreed with @wolf242 at least 3 times in the past on this forum, I just ignore this person when wolf starts talking trash, it just reminds me of talking to an actual grumpy old wolf that wants to blow my house down that's all
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I take it someone regretting buying a losing lottery ticket I know I would, I know someone is with me they are just not saying anything,
Or maybe no one agrees with you.
useless paper vs video game or music CD or movie Anything but a lottery ticket, look I've gone past you guys if you could care less about the unfortunate but to stick up for paper is another level.
Money is made out of paper. Books are made out of paper. Christmas cards, game manuals, receipts, and dozens and dozens of other things. There's nothing wrong with being left with nothing but a piece of paper.
Ok so if you were on a deserted island would you rather have a video game to play or stare at a losing lottery ticket?
They're both just as useless on a desert island.
why am I the bad guy?
Because you didn't create the thread in the spirit of discussion, and you are refusing to even consider the other side.
Isn't this the guy that registered the same year as oldgamerz yet oldgamerz has 10x as much engagement as you?
Who cares about engagement, other than you? These kinds of judgmental topics are exactly the kind of things that keep people away from our community and stops us from growing.
Not to mention he has made good posts with tons of worthy debates and you haven't. And probably never will.
That is debatable. And I'd rather someone not create a thread rather than create some of the ones I've seen floating around. Again, because, it's probably keep more people away than creating actual community growth.
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this forum is crazy
I take it someone regretting buying a losing lottery ticket I know I would, I know someone is with me they are just not saying anything,
Or maybe no one agrees with you.
useless paper vs video game or music CD or movie Anything but a lottery ticket, look I've gone past you guys if you could care less about the unfortunate but to stick up for paper is another level.
Money is made out of paper. Books are made out of paper. Christmas cards, game manuals, receipts, and dozens and dozens of other things. There's nothing wrong with being left with nothing but a piece of paper.
ok that statement is just plain dumb, people sometimes pay $25USD for that sheet of paper. this forum is as bad as that mod the sims forum where EVERY SINGLE post I make gets 4-8 disagrees by people who don't even contribute to the conversation and it's about SIM's for God sake, I must live in a different world than everyone else, either that or everyone thinks I'm a dick in this world who never even met me, Your insults don't phase me people
I have a HUGE following on Facebook and I don't have a sh!tload of comments telling me how much of a dick I am either or stupid shit like this people actually agree with me on social media unlike in these stupid brain dead forums, where literally the ENTIRE mod the sims forum is against me except for the actual contributors
I rather spend $25 on a N64 box that some lottery ticket that just reminded me how much fun I had losing my money and getting dissipointed, People buy? fuck I lost, People buy Fuck I lost,
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for those who do not know I'm on your side and I'm trying to give you good advice, that you can actually benefit from, I don't care about your habits I am not trying to control you I only am trying to give you some free financial counseling, stop buying lottery tickets, that is the best advice any Financial counselor can give you.
If you win the lottery more power to you, but, stop running your credit cards up to the max because then you need to pay 1000's in interest and then complain you are in debt, enjoy your life, learn to win, what I am telling you is good advice, when I say stop playing the lottery,
Do I benefit from this thread absolutely not but if you just listen to me YOU WILL :-\
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No one asked for your advice. You don't know us, you don't know our spending habits. Like telly, I don't buy lottery tickets. Get off of your high horse and let people live their lives.
EDIT: If you want to actually discus the pros and cons of spending money on lottery tickets, etc. vs other things, that's fine, but that isn't what you are doing. You came in with a judgmental attitude that you have only doubled down on.
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I take it someone regretting buying a losing lottery ticket I know I would, I know someone is with me they are just not saying anything,
Or maybe no one agrees with you.
useless paper vs video game or music CD or movie Anything but a lottery ticket, look I've gone past you guys if you could care less about the unfortunate but to stick up for paper is another level.
Money is made out of paper. Books are made out of paper. Christmas cards, game manuals, receipts, and dozens and dozens of other things. There's nothing wrong with being left with nothing but a piece of paper.
Ok so if you were on a deserted island would you rather have a video game to play or stare at a losing lottery ticket?
They're both just as useless on a desert island.
why am I the bad guy?
Because you didn't create the thread in the spirit of discussion, and you are refusing to even consider the other side.
Isn't this the guy that registered the same year as oldgamerz yet oldgamerz has 10x as much engagement as you?
Who cares about engagement, other than you? These kinds of judgmental topics are exactly the kind of things that keep people away from our community and stops us from growing.
Not to mention he has made good posts with tons of worthy debates and you haven't. And probably never will.
That is debatable. And I'd rather someone not create a thread rather than create some of the ones I've seen floating around. Again, because, it's probably keep more people away than creating actual community growth.
Ive seen plenty of "newbie" badges create an account just to reply to an oldgamerz post. Dozens. His posts that are less controversial garner some of the most replies I've seen. All of which constructive. I have tangibly seen it. But one post you disagree with and now it's lets bully oldgamerz and name call. Disagreeing is fine. "Lunatics" is an attack and has no place here.
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No one asked for your advice. You don't know us, you don't know our spending habits. Like telly, I don't buy lottery tickets. Get off of your high horse and let people live their lives.
EDIT: If you want to actually discus the pros and cons of spending money on lottery tickets, etc. vs other things, that's fine, but that isn't what you are doing. You came in with a judgmental attitude that you have only doubled down on.
I do feel this has all gone terribly sour and I do think all parties involved did have their heart in the right place aside from wolf242. So I do apologize if I said anything out of line. I respect you cartagia and wish you a merry christmas :)
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Threads like this is what happens when the Lunatics are allowed to take over the Asylum. (80's reference, FTW)
Coming from the guy with not a single thread worth mention and no contributions to the forums aside from referring to other users as lunatics and a sarcastic cheap shot once every 2 weeks on threads where you look stupid because othes contribute respectfully like adults. You aren't all that and a bag of kettle chips yourself.
Momma always said if you got nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all.
Momma's advice lasted what...20 min?
Threads like this is what happens when the Lunatics are allowed to take over the Asylum. (80's reference, FTW)
Wait isn't this the guy that trash talked users battling depression last year during a pandemic? Literally a user claiming they were in a bad place you'd come with pessmism to make their climb just that extra inch higher? I remember reading things days when my skin wasn't as thick and being close to giving up. Don't think I forgot the shell of a man you are in the face of instances where this community seeked a humanly loving route. Isn't this the guy that registered the same year as oldgamerz yet oldgamerz has 10x as much engagement as you? Ouch. Quite frankly it's every post I make now. Which is fine. But not oldgamerz. He can disagree with you but he's a good person. He's been nothing but nice to all of you. And he deserves respect. Not to mention he has made good posts with tons of worthy debates and you haven't. And probably never will.
"Judge not, that ye be not judged." -Matthew 7:1. This quote aged well.
Haha, OK. Glad to see that thicker skin is working for you. I'm sorry I don't contribute thought provoking pulitzer prize material like yourself....I guess I could make endless threads about what kind of cereal goes best with powdered milk, or what snow cone flavor gets me hot and bothered...however attrition doesn't make one a valuable poster here. I'll give Oldgamerz this- he does make good threads on these forums, but starting threads like this one and then going off on people isn't quality in any way. I'm OK with the guy, even if he thinks of me as an old grumpy wolf, lol. He at least talks about games, gaming, etc. I don't see any of that from you, just attention seeking fluff.
If I contribute nothing to the boards, I'll have accomplished the same as you using @1k less posts.
If there is a way to block people and not see their threads/posts please steer me that direction. I would enjoy this forum 100% more without seeing your consistent nonsense, and I'm sure you feel the same about me.
Edit: Yes, I realize I can scroll on by, but it's a lot like driving by a car wreck. You don't want to look, but you end up peeking anyway.
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Threads like this is what happens when the Lunatics are allowed to take over the Asylum. (80's reference, FTW)
Coming from the guy with not a single thread worth mention and no contributions to the forums aside from referring to other users as lunatics and a sarcastic cheap shot once every 2 weeks on threads where you look stupid because othes contribute respectfully like adults. You aren't all that and a bag of kettle chips yourself.
Momma always said if you got nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all.
Momma's advice lasted what...20 min?
Threads like this is what happens when the Lunatics are allowed to take over the Asylum. (80's reference, FTW)
Wait isn't this the guy that trash talked users battling depression last year during a pandemic? Literally a user claiming they were in a bad place you'd come with pessmism to make their climb just that extra inch higher? I remember reading things days when my skin wasn't as thick and being close to giving up. Don't think I forgot the shell of a man you are in the face of instances where this community seeked a humanly loving route. Isn't this the guy that registered the same year as oldgamerz yet oldgamerz has 10x as much engagement as you? Ouch. Quite frankly it's every post I make now. Which is fine. But not oldgamerz. He can disagree with you but he's a good person. He's been nothing but nice to all of you. And he deserves respect. Not to mention he has made good posts with tons of worthy debates and you haven't. And probably never will.
"Judge not, that ye be not judged." -Matthew 7:1. This quote aged well.
He at least talks about games, gaming, etc. I don't see any of that from you.
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,11625.0.html
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,11651.0.html
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,11542.0.html
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,11653.0.html
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,11689.0.html
Ooops. Might have dropped something ::). It's not my fault you have selective memory, ADD or the intelect of an 80s school bully with a ripped varsity jacket on. Maybe bifocles next time. Not to mention the other 980 of my posts that are not in the off topic section of these forum guidelines. What do you suggest goes in off topic? N64 debates? Would you want "hello folks. No fun or harmless banter that clearly never hurts anyone because Wolf will get mad and blow our house down" no. You don't get to say what is up to your bullshit standard of thread quality when you do nothing. You help nothing. You don't do one single secret santa. You don't spark discourse. You don't compliment or lift any user up. You are an insessant wart on the ass of VG collect and it took 5 seconds and a few links to disect the majority of your broken opinion. So refute it. I wanna see you refute the no gaming related posts thing. Not like it matters. I could live in off topic because it's OFF TOPIC. Yes sound it out. OFF TOPIC. Crazy to think about huh? Not Games. But OFF TOPIC. And not to mention I could not post at all and bullying like calling users Lunatics. Mentally ill. Suggesting they need mental help or all the other shit you do is against the forum rules and of any society or community with self respect. And free speech typically isn't.
But this is coming from the "man" who admits he doesn't have the common self control of an 8 year old told not to touch the cookie jar that he willingly breaks the communities guidelines on insulting users just because "iTz LiKe a Twainn wexk". This isn't reddit edgelord. And quite frankly you make yourself look more stupid than any response ever could. People glance right over your dumb microagressions and skip to someone nice like pretty much every other user here.
I know countless of people like you. The guy that thinks "I wish I didn't have to see girl streamers. They just want attention" so instead of scrolling by you put the hate comments on twitch until someone cuts themselves and then you act innocent. "I was joking bro" well guess what wolf. My posts have never and never will harm an individual of this forum. Your comments are hurtful and I have stated so twice. So lose your ego. Stop being a fucking brat and do what is right.
Simply put. Next time you harass me or oldgamerz im just got go to the mods.
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I pm'd you wolf242. Aiming to hear eachother out with kindness or at least respect. If that doesn't work fine. But as christmas approaches we all can agree this is no way to be. And this has gone too far.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBtXieMeVnU
Edit: Wolff242 is in clear violation of forum guidlines.
Once bashing oldgamerz for his religion on a seperate post in April of 2021 and the severity of covid on these forums by suggesting one would wish for covid death in the form of prayer on a gaming topic that never suggested it.
Once telling a user he has no life on a harmless and innocent thread not even a week ago.
And third calling 2 users lunatics here on his thread.
These examples have been forwarded to the administrative team. Sorry you had to deal with this oldgamerz and merry christmas to you for when it comes :) I do always enjoy your posts.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBtXieMeVnU
Edit: Wolff242 is in clear violation of forum guidlines.
Once bashing oldgamerz for his religion on a seperate post in April of 2021 and the severity of covid on these forums by suggesting one would wish for covid death in the form of prayer on a gaming topic that never suggested it.
Once telling a user he has no life on a harmless and innocent thread not even a week ago.
And third calling 2 users lunatics here on his thread.
These examples have been forwarded to the administrative team. Sorry you had to deal with this oldgamerz and merry christmas to you for when it comes :) I do always enjoy your posts.
Man, if you're going to make shit up, at least try harder.
The severity of Covid? Yoou mean the post I referred to where Oldgamerz literally said, and I quote
"If they do I hope to God they just die of the freking COVID 19, I don't care about them now."
How am I starting that, HE said it and I responded. You want accountability, start with him. Bringing eating babies/cannibalism into a thread that had nothing to do with that....wishing people would die of covid, and all other sorts of inappropriate things he says. I could come up with plenty of examples if I wanted to take the time to search.
Also, did you forget YOU were the one who said, and again I quote
"humans are the virus, covid is the cure"
Yeah, you can claim it was a meme. My lunatics comment was a song....Fun Boy Three if you want to try to play games. Who's downplaying the severity of Covid here? Looks klike you are also wishing death on people.
I've never bashed anyone for their religion, but I sure would if they distort things try to impose it or their beliefs on others. I have no doubt I called him out on something inappropriate with religion, since he does that a bit too. I certainly haven't bashed religion or faith in general.
Edit: The April 2021 thing IS the covid comment. Nice attempt to make that sound like 2 separate incidents. Yeah, if someone is going to PRAY that people get Covid, I'll call them out on that shit. That is a gross misuse of religion.
As for telling someone they have no life...where. YOU made a topic, I responded and in that response I said "You must have a lot of free time". I did not say get a life, you have no life, etc.
YOU have accused me of all sorts of things you know nothing about. You just love to go off and make all kinds of comparisons.
Report away, but I will also go through both yours and oldgamerz posts and report the both of you as well. I'll happily accept whatever punishment the mods deem appropriate, but you both have run amok with things the mods should have dealt with a long time ago. He particularly has gotten away with stuff that wouldn't fly anywhere else.
I'm glad I saw this before the PM, otherwise I might have thought you were serious.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBtXieMeVnU
Edit: Wolff242 is in clear violation of forum guidlines.
Once bashing oldgamerz for his religion on a seperate post in April of 2021 and the severity of covid on these forums by suggesting one would wish for covid death in the form of prayer on a gaming topic that never suggested it.
Once telling a user he has no life on a harmless and innocent thread not even a week ago.
And third calling 2 users lunatics here on his thread.
These examples have been forwarded to the administrative team. Sorry you had to deal with this oldgamerz and merry christmas to you for when it comes :) I do always enjoy your posts.
Man, if you're going to make shit up, at least try harder.
The severity of Covid? Yoou mean the post I referred to where Oldgamerz literally said, and I quote
"If they do I hope to God they just die of the freking COVID 19, I don't care about them now."
How am I starting that, HE said it and I responded. You want accountability, start with him. Bringing eating babies/cannibalism into a thread that had nothing to do with that....wishing people would die of covid, and all other sorts of inappropriate things he says. I could come up with plenty of examples if I wanted to take the time to search.
Also, did you forget YOU were the one who said, and again I quote
"humans are the virus, covid is the cure"
Yeah, you can claim it was a meme. My lunatics comment was a song....Fun Boy Three if you want to try to play games. Who's downplaying the severity of Covid here? Looks klike you are also wishing death on people.
I've never bashed anyone for their religion, but I sure would if they distort things try to impose it or their beliefs on others. I have no doubt I called him out on something inappropriate with religion, since he does that a bit too. I certainly haven't bashed religion or faith in general.
As for telling someone they have no life...where. YOU made a topic, I responded and in that response I said "You must have a lot of free time". I did not say get a life, you have no life, etc.
YOU have accused me of all sorts of things you know nothing about. You just love to go off and make all kinds of comparisons.
Report away, but I will also go through both yours and oldgamerz posts and report the both of you as well. I'll happily accept whatever punishment the mods deem appropriate, but you both have run amok with things the mods should have dealt with a long time ago. He particularly has gotten away with stuff that wouldn't fly anywhere else.
I'm glad I saw this before the PM, otherwise I might have thought you were serious.
You seen this like an hour after the PM because you were literally viewing messages before I posted it. I'd honestly love the simple solution of you ignore me and i'll ignore you or even the better solution of hearing eachother out without the subtle attacks but you seem too immature for it. Admitted as such.
Oldgamerz is more who i'm in defense of as he's a good friend on here. This community is like a family and tiffs happen all the time in any functioning family. But if we are talking my posts. In the 5 years ive been here and 2000 posts i'm sure you'll find a dumb statement or two. The point is I never directly attacked a user and 95 percent of my posts are simple questions that you don't need to trash everytime I log in. You are actually attacking me actively and i'm fed up of it.
If I ever said what you claim I said about the virus then I do apologize but last year was a blur. I will confess last year I was suffering from major tragedies. I had just lost my job of 7 years to covid. I was facing hunger and barely keeping up with bills. I have an anxiety disorder that causes hypertension and I was in a bad way. My father was sick. If not for the few people I had I was facing death and my posts here were a sincere cry for help.
You however are not joking, I don't care if it's an 80s song or some meme. I told you months ago that you hurt me with a comment and got no reply but you simply won't stop. Aside from my gorilla post made in jest all my posts of late have been heartfelt and real questions. Yes even the Britney vs Christina one. Me and my girlfriend have been hooked on them and the end of the conservatorship so it was fresh on my mind. But I honestly think reaching out and just talking to me is way more mature than the jabs. I deserve that much respect. We all do.
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That is my attempt at solution. The mods can delete my account for all I care. Also "you have a lot of time on your hands" and "you have no life" are synonymous. They both suggest one doesn't have anything meaningful to occupy themselves with.
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Ahhh what an attempt at making me out to be cruel while leaving out the entirety of the context ::) The post being referred to was one seether made essentially tongue in cheek taking a sarcastic shit on the off topic section. My respond and the ones that followed were clearly and I mean CLEARLY in jest same as any user does to Seethers posts. It was me making a mockery of a post that was making a mockery. Basically a joke. Latin of the world Joccus meaning not to be taking seriously. What a weak attempt at my character and I will not stand for it. But why am I even here arguing with someone with 1 topic creation in 4 years lol. I wish I had just taken the oldgamerz approach of ignoring you. Farewell.
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You have made weak attacks at mine too, but I don't really care. Your opinion of me is irrelevant.
You however are not joking, I don't care if it's an 80s song or some meme. I told you months ago that you hurt me with a comment and got no reply but you simply won't stop. Aside from my gorilla post made in jest all my posts of late have been heartfelt and real questions. Yes even the Britney vs Christina one. Me and my girlfriend have been hooked on them and the end of the conservatorship so it was fresh on my mind. But I honestly think reaching out and just talking to me is way more mature than the jabs. I deserve that much respect. We all do.
If I wasn't joking, report me for calling everyone here a lunatic, as I referred to this place as "the asylum". Well, I guess the mods would be the orderlies so not EVERYONE.
I just want a button I can push so I never see your posts on my unread posts page again.
Also, I think (I could be wrong) that this is the 5th thread I've addressed you in. The off-topic thread where you mentioned Covid as the cure (In which a mod even told you to cut your crap out), , one where you went on about Seether being sexy waifu or something, the free time comment, one about naming your kid after a PS4 controller, and this. That goes back nearly 2 years. You make it sound like I'm stalking you (While you are the one monitoring my activity on here) You let Oldgamerz slide on all the BS things he says, but want to report me. Makes sense.
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Ha! This is great. I'm glad someone is calling out these asshats. Marv and oldgamerz always post bullshit and now you're upset that someone is calling you out on your nonsense. Wolf is 100% right.
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Ha! This is great. I'm glad someone is calling out these asshats. Marv and oldgamerz always post bullshit and now you're upset that someone is calling you out on your nonsense. Wolf is 100% right.
I get the views and the replies and so does Marv, his conversations are interesting, and he works vary hard on a lot of the post he never gets barley any replies on, like his annual VGCOllect rewards thread.
I just type and start text conversations stuff and get all kinds of replies and views, while Marv scourers the web for photos, he is vary creative more creative then me, at least Marv has kept the conversation going on here for 4 months straight while I have not.
Most of you are probably too young to understand what it feels like to be broke and have nothing maybe if you were homeless or had to live under direct control like I was for 4 years of my life to understand how it feels to have no money and no way out other than charity and to depend on someone else funds to essential get out of a financial prison
I wish you would find another bullshit post I made I regret saying that about COVID but I never actually prayed that was just me talking through my hat.
I know the admins are probably pissed now, because this site also depends on donations I know they are watching the thread closely, don't know what they think but they know what they are doing, they could hard delete this thread and every single one of my threads in an instant but don't.
@Marvelvscapcom2 keeps the forum running and interesting I do too and so does all of you guys My cannon is was never pointed at Wolf but it's now pointed at you
keep clicking that report to moderator button Marv, I don't click it unless I'm really pissed off of if someone is trying to hardcode or hack the forum but I will report next time I see something like that again it was disrespectful for wolf to say those things and me so but that is over.
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If you want to know about my financial prison I'll explain, I was in a group home with no control over the phone and transportation, with people breathing down my neck forcing me to do things for free. I could not get a job, as a result and I was only getting $44USD a month with the potential of getting robbed every last cent I could save up 24/7 in a house of lottery and drug addicts who most were only looking out for themselves.
Most homeless people have the potential of getting robbed since they are always on the street carrying their clothing with them, they can't afford an apartment or a house hence why they are homeless, like I was.
if they do save up like lets say $500 USD, that could be stolen from them in an instant with how people are these days, what is a homeless person to do?
The only reason why I'm out is because I knew the right people and was in the right place at the right time you could say I won the lottery without even spending a dine on a ticket. I got government funds that gave me free furniture and food and money to pay a security and first months rent,
YOU NEED AT LEAST $1000USD just to get into a cheap one room apartment most places all of which could easily be stolen off a homeless person even with a job, the lottery is a pit other people need it more, you rich folks don't understand do you?
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Ha! This is great. I'm glad someone is calling out these asshats. Marv and oldgamerz always post bullshit and now you're upset that someone is calling you out on your nonsense. Wolf is 100% right.
I get the views and the replies and so does Marv, his conversations are interesting, and he works vary hard on a lot of the post he never gets barley any replies on, like his annual VGCOllect rewards thread.
I just type and start text conversations stuff and get all kinds of replies and views, while Marv scourers the web for photos, he is vary creative more creative then me, at least Marv has kept the conversation going on here for 4 months straight while I have not.
Most of you are probably too young to understand what it feels like to be broke and have nothing maybe if you were homeless or had to live under direct control like I was for 4 years of my life to understand how it feels to have no money and no way out other than charity and to depend on someone else funds to essential get out of a financial prison
I wish you would find another bullshit post I made I regret saying that about COVID but I never actually prayed that was just me talking through my hat.
I know the admins are probably pissed now, because this site also depends on donations I know they are watching the thread closely, don't know what they think but they know what they are doing, they could hard delete this thread and every single one of my threads in an instant but don't.
@Marvelvscapcom2 keeps the forum running and interesting I do too and so does all of you guys My cannon is was never pointed at Wolf but it's now pointed at you
keep clicking that report to moderator button Marv, I don't click it unless I'm really pissed off of if someone is trying to hardcode or hack the forum but I will report next time I see something like that again it was disrespectful for wolf to say those things and me so but that is over.
Thank you oldgamerz :) I needed that.
Your posts are creative as well and I do remember making those VG collect rewards threads, uploading them to imgur to make them all the same size, photoshopping and making the categories and you were one of few users to appreciate them. But if I make a off topic opinion post here comes these 2 with a bag of insults. They say they want gaming related posts but they don't. They want to find a new target. When you post you engage every facet of this forum and I have met some of the best hearted people on here like you, wartoy and hexen. Turf is cool as they come. At any given time you can look at the guest list of this site and see 56 guests who aren't users and like 5 to 10 of which are reading an oldgamerz thread new or old. That says something to what you do on these forums and I hope you feel proud of that because to be here like 5 years and have users claim all you post is bullshit when you make 1 post they don't like is quite frankly not acceptable. You post gold. You post creative threads. You have done more for VG collect than you are given credit for and I enjoy the things you make. I sincerely do and others do too.
I hope god blesses you with a merry christmas oldgamerz.
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thanks marv :)
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Nope.