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Title: DO You Keep GAMES Sealed forever or/and sell? or? Attend to Play them? and keep?
Post by: oldgamerz on July 07, 2017, 08:47:14 pm
I only collect cheap used games mostly. because I find a used cheap game can be just a fun as a new game. I love the smell of unopened video games. But I don't plan on keeping my 3 sealed video games sealed forever. believe it of not I bought Medal Of Honor sealed for $under $15.00 american for the PS3 and that Game is awesome. I found it used, still sealed at a used video game market for an excellent price and that is an excellent game. Cracked case yes, manual yes, hole in seal yes, disc in mint condition yes manual in mint condition. apparently someone no longer want. original seal well no longer. I opened it and played that game because I don't want my games sealed forever. I buy video games to play them. not to profit or sell them. But someday I may share them with other people for free. I'll only sell them if I'm desperate again. for food.

I play to keep and keep on collecting just to have them because I know that physical   video games are rare period. don't let anyone tell you different. Physical copies don't last forever. AND sometimes in order to have something Physical  again you just gotta open a seal copy. Data is more interchangeable that Physical copies, at least some good data is free on ROM sites, also some bad and good data can be found on corrupt ROM web sites. They say that ROMS are illegal but what do you think a PS4 uses people? I guess if you PAY it's legal but even back in the 1990's hackers used to put viruses on PC video games (THAT MY PARENTS USED TO PAY MONEY FOR) and even the SONY PS1 demo disc is actually a memory card breaker i read.

Sorry to make so many topics Admin's I hope to keep the conversation going, and being a newbie I don't know if bring ancient topics back to life is a good idea. I got in trouble for that on a different forum. RUNNING SEARCH AFTER THIS POST. :)

2 searches and I found this topic ;)
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,8000.msg132815.html#msg132815

I will not make ROMS out of my games I don't know how to do that stuff. Sharing as is YES

Title: Re: DO You Keep Them Sealed forever or/and sell? or? Attend to Play them? and keep?
Post by: Warmsignal on July 07, 2017, 09:01:39 pm
A have quite a few sealed because I've not attempted to play them yet. Maybe a handful of them I'm considering just selling because the value is rising and I'm not very interested in them... would rather trade them out for other heavy-hitters that I actually want.

But no, nothing of mine will stay sealed.
Title: Re: DO You Keep GAMES Sealed forever or/and sell? or? Attend to Play them? and keep?
Post by: bikingjahuty on July 07, 2017, 09:09:04 pm
While I do have several sealed games that I fully intend on opening someday, I have found several older sealed games in the wild, the craziest being a sealed Majoras Mask from a flea market. With these I sold them at a crazy markup due to their new condition and bought other games I wanted with the money. I do not go after sealed games or collect them, but regardless I probably have around 100 or so in my collection.
Title: Re: DO You Keep GAMES Sealed forever or/and sell? or? Attend to Play them? and keep?
Post by: burningdoom on July 07, 2017, 09:26:17 pm
ALWAYS PLAY THEM!

Firm believer in "Games are meant to be played."
Title: Re: DO You Keep GAMES Sealed forever or/and sell? or? Attend to Play them? and keep?
Post by: ignition365 on July 07, 2017, 10:16:05 pm
Always for play... but I do have sealed copies of say Echo Night and Echo Night Beyond.  I might sell those and buy opened copies and use the extra money to buy something else.
Title: Re: DO You Keep GAMES Sealed forever or/and sell? or? Attend to Play them? and keep?
Post by: emporerdragon on July 07, 2017, 11:00:47 pm
I plan to play all my games...eventually. The only problem is that eventually can get further and further away to the point where some games have spent over a decade sitting in the ol' backlog.

A few probably won't ever get their shrink wrap removed, but that's more because I wound up getting a digital copy or the game on a different system.
Title: Re: DO You Keep GAMES Sealed forever or/and sell? or? Attend to Play them? and keep?
Post by: stealthrush on July 07, 2017, 11:27:05 pm
No. I buy games to play, and if I like them, keep.

I can agree with you on some affordable games being as fun as some expensive titles. I sold two rare games of mine a few months ago to pay for a bill, that being said I wanted to sell them in the first place.
Title: Re: DO You Keep GAMES Sealed forever or/and sell? or? Attend to Play them? and keep?
Post by: chrismb on July 07, 2017, 11:34:09 pm
I open then, I like to play with my games so I don't really see the point of keeping them sealed.
Title: Re: DO You Keep GAMES Sealed forever or/and sell? or? Attend to Play them? and keep?
Post by: thewelshman on July 07, 2017, 11:48:58 pm
I have several that were a limited run or are considered rare that I'll never open. Of course, these same ones also came with a digital download, so I'm able to still play them.
Title: Re: DO You Keep GAMES Sealed forever or/and sell? or? Attend to Play them? and keep?
Post by: azure on July 08, 2017, 12:25:35 am
Got a couple of PS4 games I have yet to open because I haven't played them yet. Never keep anything sealed though, games are meant for playin!
Title: Re: DO You Keep GAMES Sealed forever or/and sell? or? Attend to Play them? and keep?
Post by: 98dgreen on July 08, 2017, 11:18:18 am
I keep them sealed until I find another copy that isn't sealed
Title: Re: DO You Keep GAMES Sealed forever or/and sell? or? Attend to Play them? and keep?
Post by: shepard11 on July 08, 2017, 01:29:14 pm
I buy to play and only sealed if I haven't played them yet. I finally cracked open my copy of Alpha Sapphire last night because I wanted to play. Probably a dozen of xboxone games sealed I got when Target did their giant clearance a few months backs.
Title: Re: DO You Keep GAMES Sealed forever or/and sell? or? Attend to Play them? and keep?
Post by: sworddude on July 08, 2017, 03:02:34 pm
If i Buy a game new I will open it and play it

However if I come across a sealed copy of an old game on the cheap I will either keep it sealed if it is from a game that I like or I will sell it.

Opening an old sealed game is just playing dumb for the reason that games are meant to be played. Who am I to deny  the people in the market who are willing to pay pretty much two times upto ten times or more the opened value I will not be a fool and ruin there collectible and my potential future wallet.
Title: Re: DO You Keep GAMES Sealed forever or/and sell? or? Attend to Play them? and keep?
Post by: Nickkchilla on July 08, 2017, 05:52:29 pm
Not a collector, though I can respect that if it's your thing.

But personally, what the heck is the point of a game if you don't play it?
Title: Re: DO You Keep GAMES Sealed forever or/and sell? or? Attend to Play them? and keep?
Post by: pzeke on July 08, 2017, 11:30:55 pm
While I like to collect them, I also like to play my games, so I break the seal every time. Admittedly, though, I still have a number of games that I haven't opened yet, but will eventually. I'm pretty sure every gamer has a game or two still sealed in their collection.

I have collected many other things in my years, but keeping video games sealed has never made sense to me. Much less grading them. To each their own, I guess.
Title: Re: DO You Keep GAMES Sealed forever or/and sell? or? Attend to Play them? and keep?
Post by: 98dgreen on July 09, 2017, 09:02:11 am
If i Buy a game new I will open it and play it

However if I come across a sealed copy of an old game on the cheap I will either keep it sealed if it is from a game that I like or I will sell it.

Opening an old sealed game is just playing dumb for the reason that games are meant to be played. Who am I to deny  the people in the market who are willing to pay pretty much two times upto ten times or more the opened value I will not be a fool and ruin there collectible and my potential future wallet.
Anyone who opens a game that is older than the previous gen is just as dumb as the people who pays that much for sealed games.
Title: Re: DO You Keep GAMES Sealed forever or/and sell? or? Attend to Play them? and keep?
Post by: metshael on July 09, 2017, 09:58:04 am
I absolutely don't care about sealed games, if i buy a game it's to play it not to put it on my shelves like some sort of decoration, if it's a new released game i open it directly (i still remember about my Demon's Souls Black Phantom Edition, i buy it day one, got back home with it, at the time i lived in a rural area and the closest game shop was at 40 minutes of driving, so i got back home and open it just to find that the game is not inside, everything was inside except for the disc, i make another trip to that game shop and of course they're not believing me, i couldn't get a refund or anything and got pretty much banned to coming to that store again after arguing with the owner... well i wouldn't want to come back either, a good friend lend me his copy at the time so i could at least play with it and i completed my Black Phantom Edition a few years after by buying a loose disk on ebay but that why when i buy a game in shop i open it directly in the shop, i don't care if i will only play it months or years after).

But i'm not dumb enough to just open an old released sealed game, first for a period of time (more or like six months) i put it on sale and if no one buy it i try to trade it off for a cib copy of the same game in a good state of course (i did buy it to play it after all, it's the game that interests me not the plastic around it) for another period of time (again 6 months or so) and after that... well i open it, i recently unsealed Croisades for PC (http://www.mobygames.com/game/crusader-adventure-out-of-time/cover-art/gameCoverId,291472/) (a 1997 game but it was a pc game so it don't have much value) and i will probably have to open my copy of Ace Combat Advance for Game Boy Advance since i can't find someone to trade it with for a year now.
Title: Re: DO You Keep GAMES Sealed forever or/and sell? or? Attend to Play them? and keep?
Post by: hoshichiri on July 09, 2017, 11:21:19 am
I buy games with the intent to play- I do have a couple titles still sealed in my collection that will likely not be opened just because the time spent in my backlog has made them somewhat valuable sealed (Xenogears and Zelda Minish Cap to be precise.) If I found a collector who'd swap me for opened copies plus a lil' cash I'd take the deal.

I feel like games are unique in that it's their use that gives them purpose- it's not the box Mario came in that makes people nostalgic for it, it's the gameplay. If you're not giving the games a run-though, you're not understanding why people came to love them in the first place.

At the same time, I don't mind the sealed collectors from a preservation standpoint. We are not the last of the world's gamers, and using games does create wear & eventually breakage. Sealed collectors help keep the tactile part of gaming alive by keeping specimens around (although, ironically, you'll need to break the seal to get the full experience.) I also appreciate the ROM makers- by continually making older games available on newer machines, they keep the games alive & make sure the next generations can play these titles long after the originals have broken down.


I play to keep and keep on collecting just to have them because I know that physical   video games are rare period. don't let anyone tell you different. Physical copies don't last forever. AND sometimes in order to have something Physical  again you just gotta open a seal copy. Data is more interchangeable that Physical copies, at least some good data is free on ROM sites, also some bad and good data can be found on corrupt ROM web sites. They say that ROMS are illegal but what do you think a PS4 uses people? I guess if you PAY it's legal but even back in the 1990's hackers used to put viruses on PC video games (THAT MY PARENTS USED TO PAY MONEY FOR) and even the SONY PS1 demo disc is actually a memory card breaker i read.

This bit confuses me. Physical games in general are not rare- maybe specific titles, but most anybody can walk into a store and find games of some kind. A ROM is just a date file- whether or not it's legal depends on who owns the data & if they're OK with where and how it's being distributed. and PS1 demos don't break memory cards! There was one PS2 demo that erased memory cards, but it wasn't intentional & sony pulled them and issued replacements. They also sent free games to people affected. I actually just hunted a copy of that disc down, now I need a PS2 card with corrupt data stuck on it- I want to see if the erase glitch can blank the card. Could be a valuable repair option nowadays.
Title: Re: DO You Keep GAMES Sealed forever or/and sell? or? Attend to Play them? and keep?
Post by: doafan on July 09, 2017, 01:31:30 pm
DO You Keep GAMES Sealed forever or/and sell? or? Attend to Play them? and keep?

Allow me to answer your question with another question. You don't purchase a condom just to keep it sealed, do you ?
Title: Re: DO You Keep GAMES Sealed forever or/and sell? or? Attend to Play them? and keep?
Post by: oldgamerz on July 09, 2017, 05:13:36 pm
I absolutely don't care about sealed games, if i buy a game it's to play it not to put it on my shelves like some sort of decoration, if it's a new released game i open it directly (i still remember about my Demon's Souls Black Phantom Edition, i buy it day one, got back home with it, at the time i lived in a rural area and the closest game shop was at 40 minutes of driving, so i got back home and open it just to find that the game is not inside, everything was inside except for the disc, i make another trip to that game shop and of course they're not believing me, i couldn't get a refund or anything and got pretty much banned to coming to that store again after arguing with the owner... well i wouldn't want to come back either, a good friend lend me his copy at the time so i could at least play with it and i completed my Black Phantom Edition a few years after by buying a loose disk on ebay but that why when i buy a game in shop i open it directly in the shop, i don't care if i will only play it months or years after).

But i'm not dumb enough to just open an old released sealed game, first for a period of time (more or like six months) i put it on sale and if no one buy it i try to trade it off for a cib copy of the same game in a good state of course (i did buy it to play it after all, it's the game that interests me not the plastic around it) for another period of time (again 6 months or so) and after that... well i open it, i recently unsealed Croisades for PC (http://www.mobygames.com/game/crusader-adventure-out-of-time/cover-art/gameCoverId,291472/) (a 1997 game but it was a pc game so it don't have much value) and i will probably have to open my copy of Ace Combat Advance for Game Boy Advance since i can't find someone to trade it with for a year now.


my opinion is, everything you said, is logical. except this concept, maybe you forgot to sat this but I am correcting you.



Quote from: metshael
when i buy a game in shop i open it directly in the shop, i don't care if i will only play it months or years after).
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(oldgamerz reply): not a good idea unless you pay, then open the game up in front of the clerk. or manager, (everything you buy these days is a risk factor.)

Title: Re: DO You Keep GAMES Sealed forever or/and sell? or? Attend to Play them? and keep?
Post by: oldgamerz on July 09, 2017, 05:29:45 pm


(QUOTED OLDGAMERZ)


I play to keep and keep on collecting just to have them because I know that physical   video games are rare period. don't let anyone tell you different. Physical copies don't last forever. AND sometimes in order to have something Physical  again you just gotta open a seal copy. Data is more interchangeable that Physical copies, at least some good data is free on ROM sites, also some bad and good data can be found on corrupt ROM web sites. They say that ROMS are illegal but what do you think a PS4 uses people? I guess if you PAY it's legal but even back in the 1990's hackers used to put viruses on PC video games (THAT MY PARENTS USED TO PAY MONEY FOR) and even the SONY PS1 demo disc is actually a memory card breaker i read.

quoted from @hoshichiri
This bit confuses me. Physical games in general are not rare- maybe specific titles, but most anybody can walk into a store and find games of some kind. A ROM is just a date file- whether or not it's legal depends on who owns the data & if they're OK with where and how it's being distributed. and PS1 demos don't break memory cards! There was one PS2 demo that erased memory cards, but it wasn't intentional & sony pulled them and issued replacements. They also sent free games to people affected. I actually just hunted a copy of that disc down, now I need a PS2 card with corrupt data stuck on it- I want to see if the erase glitch can blank the card. Could be a valuable repair option nowadays.

REPLY TO: @hoshichiri from @oldgamerz
I only said there rare because in the way the world is going today ( not making any more physical copies as of the date of the post) as far as the curropt memory card goes, it is HELL to find a SONY  PS2 MEMORY CARD THAT IS STILL FUNCTIONAL.) AND i AM ABSOLUTELY PISSED AT SONY FOR NOT PUTTING MORE HEATSINK CHIPS INTO THE OLDER FATER PS3 MODELS TO KEEP THE INSIDES FROM MELTING >:( >:( >:(
AND even more angry that they stopped making them completely. IF SONY wants to get my money they better make a better product then the THE PS4!!!
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Title: Re: DO You Keep GAMES Sealed forever or/and sell? or? Attend to Play them? and keep?
Post by: hoshichiri on July 09, 2017, 08:13:01 pm
as far as the curropt memory card goes, it is HELL to find a SONY  PS2 MEMORY CARD THAT IS STILL FUNCTIONAL.

Really? I don't have trouble with mine, aside from the ports on my system having gone a lil' wonky so it might take a re-insert or two to get the system to recognize it. Then again, I haven't actually shopped for a card in years (I even have a sealed 2-pack for 'just in case'), so maybe the good cards are all in collector's hands.

It's an interesting part of the 'play or display' argument. If the game & system work, but a mostly-necessary accessory is dying... do you try to go without, or just give up on playing the game?
Title: Re: DO You Keep GAMES Sealed forever or/and sell? or? Attend to Play them? and keep?
Post by: kashell on July 10, 2017, 09:54:34 am
If I buy a game, then it's going to be played.
Title: Re: DO You Keep GAMES Sealed forever or/and sell? or? Attend to Play them? and keep?
Post by: matimo on July 10, 2017, 10:26:34 am
I normally buy games i intend to play so i usually open and play them. However there are 2 rpgs ive yet open as i havnt had to time to invest in them. :\
Title: Re: DO You Keep GAMES Sealed forever or/and sell? or? Attend to Play them? and keep?
Post by: metshael on July 10, 2017, 11:31:20 am
not a good idea unless you pay, then open the game up in front of the clerk. or manager, (everything you buy these days is a risk factor.)

That is literally what i'm doing and yeah i know that is a bad idea, i pay, move on the side to not block the way to the counter and open my games, at first i got bad glance and clerks telling me to move away but now most of the clerks of the shops around know me so most of them let me be and just consider it to be a weird habit while the others understand how unlucky i can be with games, and yes i've been pretty unlucky in the past few years, especially with WiiU games like my limited edition of Xenoblade Chronicles X didn't had the artbook inside the box (me and the owner of the shop knew something was wrong since the items were moving inside...) but the "best" i had lately was when i bought Bayonetta 1 & 2 (in Europe the game comes in a box containing two different dvd case, one for each game) so i open up the box and we (me and the owner) see that two dvd cases are inside so she told me sarcastically "Oh what a surprise, everything is inside" then i pull out the dvd cases and... i started to laugh while she let out a sigh and telling me how unlucky can i be... what was inside ? Two copy of Bayonetta 2 instead of a copy of Bayonetta 1 and a copy of Bayonetta 2  ;D

The only real trouble i have with that weird habit is from the closest Micromania (the French GameStop), i've had so many trouble with used games (yes, i also check used games like this too) from them (disk were not inside, wrong disk inside or the prices were not those indicated on the box) that most of the clerks from there probably have something against me since most of time i've done a pre-order from them they cancel it the day before the release or tell up-front that they didn't receive enough copy to satisfy all the pre-orders they had... even though they still have a few copy on the shelves behind them...  >:(, and they even tried to make me pay full price for a item i bought (and already pay) on sale from their internet site ::), most of the time now i avoid that shop but if i really have to buy something from there i ask to a friend or one of my bros to buy for me.
Title: Re: DO You Keep GAMES Sealed forever or/and sell? or? Attend to Play them? and keep?
Post by: turf on July 10, 2017, 11:32:53 am
I have a few sealed games.  I don't open games until I get ready to play them.  If I never get around to it, oh well.  I have a sealed game.

There's no need for me to open my sealed copy of F-Zero.  I have plenty of chances to play F-Zero without opening a sealed game that survived 25 years.
Title: Re: DO You Keep GAMES Sealed forever or/and sell? or? Attend to Play them? and keep?
Post by: athmaus on July 10, 2017, 12:59:42 pm
I play and keep it.  I regret selling some of my older games to get new ones when i was younger.
Title: Re: DO You Keep GAMES Sealed forever or/and sell? or? Attend to Play them? and keep?
Post by: wartoy on July 10, 2017, 05:48:33 pm
When I buy a game I always intend to play it but sometime I move on to other games.Then the value goes up too high to open it. For example my sealed copy of BattleToads for nes. then I would just buy a used copy to play on the cheep. Makes more sense to me in my opinion.
Title: Re: DO You Keep GAMES Sealed forever or/and sell? or? Attend to Play them? and keep?
Post by: oldgamerz on July 10, 2017, 10:08:38 pm
not a good idea unless you pay, then open the game up in front of the clerk. or manager, (everything you buy these days is a risk factor.)

That is literally what i'm doing and yeah i know that is a bad idea, i pay, move on the side to not block the way to the counter and open my games, at first i got bad glance and clerks telling me to move away but now most of the clerks of the shops around know me so most of them let me be and just consider it to be a weird habit while the others understand how unlucky i can be with games, and yes i've been pretty unlucky in the past few years, especially with WiiU games like my limited edition of Xenoblade Chronicles X didn't had the artbook inside the box (me and the owner of the shop knew something was wrong since the items were moving inside...) but the "best" i had lately was when i bought Bayonetta 1 & 2 (in Europe the game comes in a box containing two different dvd case, one for each game) so i open up the box and we (me and the owner) see that two dvd cases are inside so she told me sarcastically "Oh what a surprise, everything is inside" then i pull out the dvd cases and... i started to laugh while she let out a sigh and telling me how unlucky can i be... what was inside ? Two copy of Bayonetta 2 instead of a copy of Bayonetta 1 and a copy of Bayonetta 2  ;D

The only real trouble i have with that weird habit is from the closest Micromania (the French GameStop), i've had so many trouble with used games (yes, i also check used games like this too) from them (disk were not inside, wrong disk inside or the prices were not those indicated on the box) that most of the clerks from there probably have something against me since most of time i've done a pre-order from them they cancel it the day before the release or tell up-front that they didn't receive enough copy to satisfy all the pre-orders they had... even though they still have a few copy on the shelves behind them...  >:(, and they even tried to make me pay full price for a item i bought (and already pay) on sale from their internet site ::), most of the time now i avoid that shop but if i really have to buy something from there i ask to a friend or one of my bros to buy for me.

try using amazon in whatever country your from @metshael. GameStop has givin' me hell in my late teen years years :(