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Title: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on January 02, 2020, 10:32:34 am
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Link to Listing Errors 2018 Thread:
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,8857.0.html
Link to Listing Errors 2019 Thread:
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,9928.0.html
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: glik on January 02, 2020, 05:17:21 pm
Wrong platform
https://vgcollect.com/item/166956

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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: sharanden on January 02, 2020, 05:27:06 pm
I think (but am not sure) the cart art for this entry is not necessary:
https://vgcollect.com/item/23213

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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: pzeke on January 02, 2020, 06:26:48 pm
Fresh!

https://vgcollect.com/item/172692
https://vgcollect.com/item/172693
https://vgcollect.com/item/172694


I think (but am not sure) the cart art for this entry is not necessary:
https://vgcollect.com/item/23213

If you notice, the film can be seen on the top-right corner, sort of to showcase how its applied.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: weirdfeline on January 04, 2020, 05:00:43 pm
Mobile games listed under Other?
https://vgcollect.com/item/172794
https://vgcollect.com/item/172795
https://vgcollect.com/item/172796
https://vgcollect.com/item/172797
https://vgcollect.com/item/172798
https://vgcollect.com/item/172799
https://vgcollect.com/item/172800
https://vgcollect.com/item/172801
https://vgcollect.com/item/172802


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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on January 04, 2020, 05:07:38 pm
In addition to the numerous listings for iOS that weirdfeline above me has already pointed out, several dozen more iOS and Android games are scattered throughout the "Other" category sub-section. Listed below are only a few.

https://vgcollect.com/item/159666
https://vgcollect.com/item/159700
https://vgcollect.com/item/159809
https://vgcollect.com/item/159667
https://vgcollect.com/item/159701
https://vgcollect.com/item/159702
https://vgcollect.com/item/159668
https://vgcollect.com/item/159670



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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on January 05, 2020, 02:05:34 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/170030

This game does not say "Limited Edition Steelbook" on the box so it should just be (steelbook). My original edit was overwritten in the same day.

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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: sharanden on January 05, 2020, 07:37:51 pm
Incorrect back box art for this entry:
https://vgcollect.com/item/97485

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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: sharanden on January 06, 2020, 11:09:45 am
Edit to add [AS] for Asian region to the title was rejected for incorrect information, even though it was released there. The product name is the same as the Japanese release, so adding [AS] might make the difference between the two entries clearer.
https://vgcollect.com/item/55068
Source: https://www.play-asia.com/playstation-vita-memory-card-64gb/13/7076ap

The title and item number for this entry should contain ZA11 instead of ZX11. PCH-2006 ZX11 does not exist.
https://vgcollect.com/item/140119
Source: https://www.sony.com.hk/product/playstation/buy/en/27447219

Not sure what the product code for the black North American PCH-2001 should be. I have not been able to confirm the color code.
https://vgcollect.com/item/130968

I thought this entry was supposed to be PCH-1101 ZA01, but as my edit was rejected I am posting here in search the correct product code. The barcode also seems to be really obscure.
https://vgcollect.com/item/23226
This is PCH-1101 AA01 which also includes accessories and a game so it cannot be that unless Sony used the same product code twice.
https://vgcollect.com/item/22643

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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on January 06, 2020, 12:15:48 pm
[AS] is American Samoa, that is why it was rejected.

Regarding PCH-1101 AA01, it was indeed used twice. One is for the system itself, and then the code was also used in the Pack.

PCH-2001 item code is ZX11.
Ref: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/a-QAAOSwMDpd8yDw/s-l1600.jpg
If you are going to be taking up this task of fixing up the consoles, Ebay is going to be your friend.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: sharanden on January 06, 2020, 02:09:56 pm
What TLD should I use for the Asian memory card instead? I can't find definite information in the style guide. Looking at the text written on the box, the memory card seems to be released in at least Korea and a Chinese-speaking country (probably Taiwan/Hong Kong/Singapore).

Should entry 23226 be put up as PCH-1101 AA01? Because the First Edition Bundle has the edition added to the title, there won't be title overlap.

I have been looking around eBay (and Yahoo Auctions for Japanese releases) a bit, but not good enough it seems. ::)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on January 07, 2020, 09:40:33 am
What TLD should I use for the Asian memory card instead? I can't find definite information in the style guide. Looking at the text written on the box, the memory card seems to be released in at least Korea and a Chinese-speaking country (probably Taiwan/Hong Kong/Singapore).

It appears to be a Korean item:
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/qx4AAOSwG11eDrce/s-l1600.jpg

I have it on my list to look at 23226 today.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on January 07, 2020, 10:22:33 am
There aren't many PCH-1101 releases. And after looking at things, I do not see the need of putting the entire part number into the item title. So the AA01 has been removed from the 3 entries we have, which are:
Walking Dead: https://vgcollect.com/item/47672
First Edition Bundle: https://vgcollect.com/item/22643
$55 Bonus Value: https://vgcollect.com/item/23226

Normally when attempting to correct game entries, we can also just "go back" to whatever the entry was supposed to be. For EU releases we would defer to a UK release. However, this can't always be used and especially not in worldwide categories like hardware and accessories. So despite the fact that the UPC of 711719221319 was added to 23226 after the entry was created, it has been on there for 7 years, so that is why 23226 is now the $55 Bonus Value release. Ref: https://ebay.com/itm/274148625187

Other releases of PCH-1101 not in the db are the plain box version (the one that was available on its own and is also the inner box from the First Edition Bundle) and the $40 Bonus Value box. Both the $55 and $40 appear to use the same "box" but have different UPC because those are on labels. I was unable to find the UPC for the $40 Bonus Value box. And since this UPC for the $55 Bonus Value shows up as a Walmart item, it is likely (but not confirmed) that it is a Walmart exclusive, and it is likely that the $40 box is a different store exclusive and would have a different UPC. Also there might be some Packs that use PCH-1101 boxes, I didn't bother looking at those.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: sharanden on January 07, 2020, 01:55:50 pm
Ok, well. I just want to fix up existing entries and then for starters add the Japanese releases, which information is more readily available for.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on January 09, 2020, 10:27:30 am
Android games:

https://vgcollect.com/item/159677
https://vgcollect.com/item/159813
https://vgcollect.com/item/159810
https://vgcollect.com/item/159808
https://vgcollect.com/item/159711
https://vgcollect.com/item/159680
https://vgcollect.com/item/159677
https://vgcollect.com/item/159679
https://vgcollect.com/item/159688
https://vgcollect.com/item/159692
https://vgcollect.com/item/159695
https://vgcollect.com/item/159699
https://vgcollect.com/item/159707
https://vgcollect.com/item/159710
https://vgcollect.com/item/159676
https://vgcollect.com/item/159678
https://vgcollect.com/item/159687
https://vgcollect.com/item/159689
https://vgcollect.com/item/159690
https://vgcollect.com/item/159691
https://vgcollect.com/item/159696
https://vgcollect.com/item/159697
https://vgcollect.com/item/159703
https://vgcollect.com/item/159705
https://vgcollect.com/item/159708
https://vgcollect.com/item/159709
https://vgcollect.com/item/159812
https://vgcollect.com/item/159814
https://vgcollect.com/item/170594
https://vgcollect.com/item/170595
https://vgcollect.com/item/159694
https://vgcollect.com/item/159698
https://vgcollect.com/item/159811
https://vgcollect.com/item/159693
https://vgcollect.com/item/159807
https://vgcollect.com/item/159815


Android hardware
https://vgcollect.com/item/43510

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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on January 09, 2020, 12:14:08 pm
We can allow the hardware.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Cartagia on January 11, 2020, 06:21:50 am
Empty Listing:

https://vgcollect.com/item/173059 (https://vgcollect.com/item/173059)
(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/d6c076_8d1596f0eca242f8b9c87791b1035648~mv2.gif/v1/fill/w_50,h_50/ezgif-1-1a13ac093785.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: pifflegatari on January 16, 2020, 03:54:49 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/173261

I accidentally uploaded image under case/disc/media art instead of front box art, so now it doesn't appear as a thumbnail.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on January 17, 2020, 09:30:57 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/173261

I accidentally uploaded image under case/disc/media art instead of front box art, so now it doesn't appear as a thumbnail.

We can delete the image if you want, but that picture that you used is not valid for front art.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: pifflegatari on January 17, 2020, 07:38:21 pm
Oh, no, it's okay! Just thought I could use it as a placeholder (instead of the default "NO ART" thumbnail) until I get the game to scan the front cover later.

https://vgcollect.com/item/173261

I accidentally uploaded image under case/disc/media art instead of front box art, so now it doesn't appear as a thumbnail.

We can delete the image if you want, but that picture that you used is not valid for front art.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: empovyle on January 24, 2020, 01:28:22 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/173501 (https://vgcollect.com/item/173501) blank entry (my own this time  :( image size was too large)

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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on January 25, 2020, 11:26:48 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/167278 (https://vgcollect.com/item/167278)
https://vgcollect.com/item/169777 (https://vgcollect.com/item/169777)

Items are one and the same. The older entry would benefit from the newer entry's images. This release includes a hard cover packaging that houses a standard Switch game case.

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/d6c076_8d1596f0eca242f8b9c87791b1035648~mv2.gif/v1/fill/w_50,h_50/ezgif-1-1a13ac093785.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: pfogel on January 25, 2020, 06:48:58 pm
EU entry with NA Barcode.
Boxart with german text and USK-rating, entry with PEGI-rating. (Might be ok since both are present, but there are versions only with PEGI)

https://vgcollect.com/item/133638
(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/d6c076_8d1596f0eca242f8b9c87791b1035648~mv2.gif/v1/fill/w_50,h_50/ezgif-1-1a13ac093785.gif)
- Removed barcode, edited to have the USK rating instead of PEGI even though both are present since it is a German release
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: fazerco on January 26, 2020, 04:42:38 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/173575 (https://vgcollect.com/item/173575) blank entry
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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on January 26, 2020, 04:17:27 pm
Please reject the edit to change the name on this item https://vgcollect.com/item/138435

Thanks :)
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- Accepted edit because I didn't see this in time, changed title back to Mecho Tales
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Cartagia on January 27, 2020, 05:22:21 pm
Edit to name of https://vgcollect.com/item/112743 was rejected.

The punctuation used in the listing is incorrect.

https://www.mobygames.com/game/warhammer-the-end-times-vermintide
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Warhammer:_The_End_Times_-_Vermintide

There is inconsistency on whether or not ‘The’ should be there, which was my suggested alt name (GameFAQs, Wikipedia)

This title should have the colon.

https://vgcollect.com/item/146157

https://www.mobygames.com/game/typoman-revised

Doesn't look like this ever got a NA release:
https://vgcollect.com/item/165049

This isn't even a game:
https://vgcollect.com/item/147619

May be a duplicate of https://vgcollect.com/item/147216

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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on January 28, 2020, 09:50:10 am
Vermintide name edit was rejected due to the hyphen. Vermintide is not an edition.
Typoman edits were rejected because descriptor was invalid. They have been fixed.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Cartagia on February 06, 2020, 06:53:56 am
I couldn't confirm 100%, but it looks like there was never a standard version of Onrush for PS4 and only the Day One Edition was ever released.

https://vgcollect.com/item/149802

Day One Edition: https://vgcollect.com/item/152130

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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Cartagia on February 09, 2020, 03:12:47 pm
Just wanting to double check before I submit a mass of updates:

The ACA NeoGeo titles, how should those be formatted?

ACA NeoGeo King of Fighters '95 is what I'm thinking, but I'm seeing a few with a colon after NeoGeo and few with NEOGEO.  I want to get these uniform across each other.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on February 10, 2020, 11:22:30 am
As they appear on GameFAQs.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: aliensstudios on February 18, 2020, 11:05:24 pm
These are the built-in applications on the Nintendo 3DS. As far as I know you can't remove them and you can't download them from the Nintendo eShop yet they are listed under the Nintendo 3DS eShop category. Should stuff like this be allowed?
https://vgcollect.com/item/174686
https://vgcollect.com/item/174693
https://vgcollect.com/item/174685 - Kept
https://vgcollect.com/item/174699
https://vgcollect.com/item/174700
https://vgcollect.com/item/174701 <- this one is the Nintendo 3DS eShop itself
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on February 19, 2020, 09:53:15 am
Our listings are for store offerings only. The database is not for "data" and our site cannot be used in this way by data collectors.
Those listings should be removed.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on February 19, 2020, 10:01:41 am
Another one of those just cropped up

https://vgcollect.com/item/174704

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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: fazerco on February 19, 2020, 01:32:12 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/174720 Blank

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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: ignition365 on February 19, 2020, 02:22:04 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/174685
This one is not a prebuilt software, IIRC, it was something downloaded.

I'm fairly certain it was actually something downloaded from the eshop, it just wasn't publicly available for purchase.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: SilverBow on February 20, 2020, 07:28:55 pm
Gabrielle's Ghostly Groove 3D
https://vgcollect.com/item/42144

Please remove Canadian release rear image so that I can post the correct one. This is a very tedious way to submit a correction edit.
(https://vgcollect.com/images/gallery/1/18947/2_ezgif-1-1a13ac093785.gif)
I removed it, but regardless, your edit would have overridden it and replaced that artwork when accepted ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: mooreshire on February 22, 2020, 02:02:43 pm
My edits to these NGPC games were rejected, so I'd appreciate it if someone could give them a closer look.

https://vgcollect.com/item/38840 (https://vgcollect.com/item/38840) and https://vgcollect.com/item/38634 (https://vgcollect.com/item/38634) have the title wrong.
"Biomotor Unitron" is only two words, not three. In Japanese it's two verb groups which they englishize to "Baiomōtā Yunitoron".
(We have the title correct on the US version's entry: https://vgcollect.com/item/13463 (https://vgcollect.com/item/13463))
We have the sequel listed as having the same title but hyphenated with the number two after it: https://vgcollect.com/item/38714 (https://vgcollect.com/item/38714).
This sequel was a Japanese only release, but their title "Kikou Seiki Unitron" translates roughly to "Armor Chronicles Unitron" and does not include the word Biomotor/Baiomōtā or a numeral in the title any way you choose to translate it.
I would propose that the two word "Biomotor Unitron" title be used with the first game and the three word "Kikou Seiki Unitron" title be used on the JP sequel.

https://vgcollect.com/item/162694 (https://vgcollect.com/item/162694) should be deleted.
https://vgcollect.com/item/26676 (https://vgcollect.com/item/26676) is the correct entry.
The US release of "Puzzle Bobble Mini" was entitled "Bust-a-Move Pocket", while the European and Japanese releases retained the original title (so, https://vgcollect.com/item/38871 (https://vgcollect.com/item/38871) and https://vgcollect.com/item/38751 (https://vgcollect.com/item/38751) are correct.).

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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on February 24, 2020, 10:10:09 am
My edits to these NGPC games were rejected, so I'd appreciate it if someone could give them a closer look.

https://vgcollect.com/item/38840 (https://vgcollect.com/item/38840) and https://vgcollect.com/item/38634 (https://vgcollect.com/item/38634) have the title wrong.
"Biomotor Unitron" is only two words, not three. In Japanese it's two verb groups which they englishize to "Baiomōtā Yunitoron".
(We have the title correct on the US version's entry: https://vgcollect.com/item/13463 (https://vgcollect.com/item/13463))
We have the sequel listed as having the same title but hyphenated with the number two after it: https://vgcollect.com/item/38714 (https://vgcollect.com/item/38714).
This sequel was a Japanese only release, but their title "Kikou Seiki Unitron" translates roughly to "Armor Chronicles Unitron" and does not include the word Biomotor/Baiomōtā or a numeral in the title any way you choose to translate it.
I would propose that the two word "Biomotor Unitron" title be used with the first game and the three word "Kikou Seiki Unitron" title be used on the JP sequel.

Per our naming rules, correct title is "Bio Motor Unitron" while the proper title "Biomotor Unitron" should be in alt-name.
Ref: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ngpc/196761-bio-motor-unitron/data
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on February 24, 2020, 04:59:25 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/175032
(https://vgcollect.com/images/gallery/1/18947/2_ezgif-1-1a13ac093785.gif)
Merged with item #16355
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Cartagia on February 25, 2020, 06:38:23 am
Blank Entry

https://vgcollect.com/item/175089

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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: mooreshire on March 01, 2020, 03:07:08 pm
Per our naming rules, correct title is "Bio Motor Unitron" while the proper title "Biomotor Unitron" should be in alt-name.
Ref: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ngpc/196761-bio-motor-unitron/data

Respectfully, I disagree. Gamefaqs has it wrong.
The text on the game cartridge and box, the Wikipedia article Gamefaqs themselves links to (and all of the sources cited in the Wikipedia article), Moby Games, and almost every other source I can find agree that "Biomotor" is written as just one word.
'Bio' is not an english word; it is a prefix derived from the greek word Bios, meaning life. Biology is its study, bioluminescence is when it makes light, bioengineering is when we intentionally manipulate it, and when we write about it it's a biography... but there is no word Bio. I already explained how it's not a word in Japanese either, and how their englishization of it also utilized the syllables just like a prefix and definitely not as a stand-alone word.
So now I'll take it one step further and assert that according to the "Official Gazette of the United States Patent and Trademark Office: Trademarks, Volume 1233, Issue 2" the Yumekobo game development studio told the U.S. government that it was one word.
But whatever; this is just a free online video game collectors' database so clearly I've already put too much effort into justifying this correction. Thanks anyways!  ;D
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on March 02, 2020, 09:42:15 am
We decided on the naming rules so that we didn't have to have to actually learn all of the languages that games are printed in.

Other than following the guidance I already posted, the other options are to get GameFAQs to correct their listings, or if you want you can call for a common name exception vote here.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: mooreshire on March 02, 2020, 02:55:56 pm
Nev ermind th en, Tri Predacus has suc essfully con vinced me that the Gamef aqs we bsite's op inion is more val id than the cla ims of the dev eloper or pub lisher, and so I now be lieve we cer tainly should use the ir titl e in stead of what's writ ten on the pac kage or what was sub mitted to any trade mark off ices. I'm su re we can all ag ree that indepe ndant res earch and lang uage compr ehension ski lls are overra ted and acc uracy is n't ve ry impor tant wh en it co mes to arch iving his tori cal in forma tion.

Joking aside: no worries; I'll just enjoy a laugh whenever I see errors like this in our database.
I love this site and appreciate everything y'all are doing to keep it running so smoothly!
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: kam1kaz3nl77 on March 05, 2020, 01:59:22 pm
Zero entry: https://vgcollect.com/item/175508 (my bad)
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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: weirdfeline on March 07, 2020, 12:43:16 am
DLC
Octo Expansion
https://vgcollect.com/item/152601

Smash Bros. Piranha Plant NA & EU
https://vgcollect.com/item/170619
https://vgcollect.com/item/157305

Smash Bros. Fighters Pass NA & EU
https://vgcollect.com/item/157598
https://vgcollect.com/item/155646

Smash Bros. Fighters Pass 2
https://vgcollect.com/item/173750
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: fazerco on March 08, 2020, 05:16:52 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/175652 (https://vgcollect.com/item/175652) Blank
https://vgcollect.com/item/175653 (https://vgcollect.com/item/175653) Blank
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on March 09, 2020, 09:56:08 am
DLC
Octo Expansion
https://vgcollect.com/item/152601

Smash Bros. Piranha Plant NA & EU
https://vgcollect.com/item/170619
https://vgcollect.com/item/157305

Smash Bros. Fighters Pass NA & EU
https://vgcollect.com/item/157598
https://vgcollect.com/item/155646

Smash Bros. Fighters Pass 2
https://vgcollect.com/item/173750

What are these being reported for?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: weirdfeline on March 09, 2020, 08:36:08 pm
DLC
Octo Expansion
https://vgcollect.com/item/152601

Smash Bros. Piranha Plant NA & EU
https://vgcollect.com/item/170619
https://vgcollect.com/item/157305

Smash Bros. Fighters Pass NA & EU
https://vgcollect.com/item/157598
https://vgcollect.com/item/155646

Smash Bros. Fighters Pass 2
https://vgcollect.com/item/173750

What are these being reported for?
It's DLC? Since when are individual pieces of DLC allowed?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on March 10, 2020, 10:00:45 am
DLC
Octo Expansion
https://vgcollect.com/item/152601

Smash Bros. Piranha Plant NA & EU
https://vgcollect.com/item/170619
https://vgcollect.com/item/157305

Smash Bros. Fighters Pass NA & EU
https://vgcollect.com/item/157598
https://vgcollect.com/item/155646

Smash Bros. Fighters Pass 2
https://vgcollect.com/item/173750

What are these being reported for?
It's DLC? Since when are individual pieces of DLC allowed?

The Style Guide doesn't actually make it clear. Such a disallowance is present in the Steam-specific rules. I've been thinking that the Steam rules should be folded into the Digital game rules that are in the Style Guide, but it never really came up.

Make it official if you'd like, post about the conflicting rules between Steam and other digital games here:
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,8361.0.html
It should be fairly straight-forward and we could get a poll up quite quickly to vote on making the change.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on March 10, 2020, 10:53:32 am
I could have sworn that DLC used to be a part of the style guide but maybe I'm misremembering.

At any rate, I think DLC can be added into the notes of an individual's item rather than making them separate entries.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Cartagia on March 10, 2020, 11:38:11 am
The biggest issue I see is how to delineate between something like these fighters / horse armor and something more robust like Undead Nightmare or The Witcher 3 DLCs - or does that even matter?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: weirdfeline on March 10, 2020, 06:58:47 pm
The biggest issue I see is how to delineate between something like these fighters / horse armor and something more robust like Undead Nightmare or The Witcher 3 DLCs - or does that even matter?
I believe Undead Nightmare is standalone. Any standalone DLC should be accepted since it's pretty much it's own game. Much like Call of Duty Warzone that released today. It's part of Modern Warfare but was released separately and playable without owning Modern Warfare.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on March 15, 2020, 03:09:51 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/58159

Incorrect discs

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on March 16, 2020, 09:54:57 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/58159

Incorrect discs

Do those discs belong to this entry?
https://vgcollect.com/item/17713
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on March 16, 2020, 10:03:34 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/58159

Incorrect discs

Do those discs belong to this entry?
https://vgcollect.com/item/17713

I think they are from the black label entry.

Here's a listing of the discs on ebay. The "Final Fantasy VIII" logo is up higher on the GH discs.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Final-Fantasy-VIII-Greatest-Hits-PlayStation-1-1999/184053869126?epid=2444&hash=item2ada772a46:g:V70AAOSwm2pd3GF7

Black label discs
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Final-Fantasy-VIII-PlayStation-1-1999/174207789082?epid=2444&hash=item288f97e81a:g:y~cAAOSwtC5eXKna

I can't tell if the picture in that item has GH next to the item name either. I don't think it does, but it's hard to make out.

EDIT: That same image is already on the black label entry in the DB https://vgcollect.com/item/6578
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on March 16, 2020, 10:12:57 am
OK disc image removed.
Those back images on both of those entries need to be replaced.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on March 16, 2020, 10:14:35 am
Yeah, I'll see what I can find
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on March 17, 2020, 08:53:29 am
My edits to these listings were overwritten
https://vgcollect.com/item/171641
https://vgcollect.com/item/171640



They shouldn't have "original" and "variant" in the name. Submitted another edit.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: empovyle on March 18, 2020, 10:50:36 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/176048 Blank

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: ancestralspirit on March 19, 2020, 02:13:57 pm
Just had a listing rejected for a UK version of Adventure Time: Pirates of the Enchiridion because it says the listing already exists.
The only EU version i could find listed was a Spanish version, with the Spanish subtitle.

Does this mean that if the versions are both EU but have different box arts and languages that they stay as the same listing?

Sorry if i've caused any confusion, just started listing my games and am unsure as to the ins and outs of the site at the moment  :)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: ancestralspirit on March 19, 2020, 02:24:16 pm
Just had a listing rejected for a UK version of Adventure Time: Pirates of the Enchiridion because it says the listing already exists.
The only EU version i could find listed was a Spanish version, with the Spanish subtitle.

Does this mean that if the versions are both EU but have different box arts and languages that they stay as the same listing?

Sorry if i've caused any confusion, just started listing my games and am unsure as to the ins and outs of the site at the moment  :)

Was also just about the add Battle Princess Madelyn PS4 NA kickstarter version, but am now worried that it'll get rejected to.
My argument is that the LRG version and the kickstarter version are different because the kickstarter version has a reversible cover.
Would this likely be rejected as well?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on March 20, 2020, 10:17:39 am
I'm not following you. Is this the Adventure Time item you made?
https://vgcollect.com/item/176055
If the reject you mean is that you tried to put [UK] in the name, and this was rejected, is normal. A UK game in an EU category should not have [UK] in the title unless there is a different European English version that was also released. If you try to put [UK] onto a title, 99% of the time you will get an edit rejection that says "information already on file."

For Battle Princess Madelyn PS4 NA. There are 3 versions that I can tell.
- white cover
- dark cover
- box

What I do not know is if the white or dark cover is what is inside of that box. So there is the possibility of there being 2 or 3 entries for this in the db.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: ancestralspirit on March 20, 2020, 12:49:02 pm
I'm not following you. Is this the Adventure Time item you made?
https://vgcollect.com/item/176055
If the reject you mean is that you tried to put [UK] in the name, and this was rejected, is normal. A UK game in an EU category should not have [UK] in the title unless there is a different European English version that was also released. If you try to put [UK] onto a title, 99% of the time you will get an edit rejection that says "information already on file."

For Battle Princess Madelyn PS4 NA. There are 3 versions that I can tell.
- white cover
- dark cover
- box

What I do not know is if the white or dark cover is what is inside of that box. So there is the possibility of there being 2 or 3 entries for this in the db.

I tried clicking on that link and it just takes me to my activity feed, which apparently has nothing on it  XD

No the problem that i had with the listing for Adventure Time was that the only EU copy i could find listed on this site, was a fully French cover with the French subtitle. I initially thought it was Spanish.
The game is called Adventure Time Pirates of The Enchiridion
The French version is called Adventure Time Les Pirates de la Terre de OOO

So i made a version for the EU with the title Adventure Time Pirates of The Enchiridion and put [UK] in the titles, since it seems like each region in the EU (UK was included in the EU at the time) had different covers depending on what language was used.

But it now seems like my listing has made it back onto the site, someone has taken the [UK] bit off the titles, and now that's ok?
https://vgcollect.com/item/176055

So it seems like my listing wasn't removed but altered? Very odd  :/

As far as i'm aware with the case of Battle Princess Madelyn, the kickstarter varient had a reversible cover that the LRG version did not. I will do some research and modify this post as a find more info. If anyone else has info, please let me know  :)

EDIT: The LRG version is the white cover. However when they packed the kickstarter backer copies, they also put the white cover out on the front when they sealed them. The kickstarter exclusive version has a reversible cover, the kickstarter cover (Madelyn in the foreground, with her ghost dog near her legs) and on the reverse the LRG cover (the white cover).

So in short, kickstarter version is reversible, LRG version is white cover only.

Which means that if most people want to actually see there kickstarter varient cover, you'll have to unseal it to reverse it yourself.
>.<

EDIT 2: It also means that the listing for Battle Princess Madelyn PS4 should have 2 listings, and the one that's currently on the site is the kickstarter exclusive version and not the LRG one.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: ancestralspirit on March 20, 2020, 01:20:33 pm
Urgh i've also just notice that i added an Alekhine's gun EU PS4 version to the list when there already is one.

Sadly when you try and search Alekhine's Gun in the search bar, nothing appears until you type the full word 'Alekhine's', and even when i tried to add an EU PS4 version it told me that there was no other listing for it, so i figured 'hey someone's not added this, i'll do the site a favour and add it myself'.

How wrong i was  :/

Seems like you have to search for the full title, word for word, with added punctuation (including things like umlauts) to even get them to appear in the search bar. Urgh, just adding games to my collection is going to be harder than i thought.

Any way someone can remove my extra Alekhine's Gun EU version from the site?
I'll be far more careful and thorough going forward.
I apologise for any and all inconvenience to those that run the site.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on March 20, 2020, 11:03:48 pm
These listings with both image variants in the item are incorrect, no?
https://vgcollect.com/item/146247
https://vgcollect.com/item/139882

There is still some lack of consensus on how we are treating these dual cover art releases from LRG and Hard Copy Games, and how they are named, too.
(https://vgcollect.com/images/gallery/1/18947/2_ezgif-1-1a13ac093785.gif)
Removed the covers for these. As far as I know, we treat the cover variants as separate items since they come factory sealed that way. The LRG stuff is a nightmare in general and I thank you for going through and trying to fix a lot of these listings.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on March 21, 2020, 10:50:42 pm
Three strange listings for SOTN

https://vgcollect.com/item/119561
https://vgcollect.com/item/119560
https://vgcollect.com/item/119559

(https://vgcollect.com/images/gallery/1/18947/2_ezgif-1-1a13ac093785.gif)
Merged these with item #6325
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on March 23, 2020, 10:23:15 am
I tried clicking on that link and it just takes me to my activity feed, which apparently has nothing on it  XD

Your first visit to the site of the day, if you had checked the box to "remember me" when you login, will redirect you to the activity feed. So you may have to click a link twice.

For searching, using your example, you can search like so:
Alekhine
https://vgcollect.com/search/Alekhine
or
"Alekhine's"
https://vgcollect.com/search/%22alekhine%27s%22
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on March 23, 2020, 02:36:01 pm
These listings with both image variants in the item are incorrect, no?
https://vgcollect.com/item/146247
https://vgcollect.com/item/139882

There is still some lack of consensus on how we are treating these dual cover art releases from LRG and Hard Copy Games, and how they are named, too.
(https://vgcollect.com/images/gallery/1/18947/2_ezgif-1-1a13ac093785.gif)
Removed the covers for these. As far as I know, we treat the cover variants as separate items since they come factory sealed that way. The LRG stuff is a nightmare in general and I thank you for going through and trying to fix a lot of these listings.


Ok, thanks for clarifying. I was told that games from Hard Copy Specifically (but also LRG) had their own names based on their website listings, but it's been my understanding that these listings do not say (Original Cover) or (Alternate Cover) on the box so we can't put that designation in the title.

So for this game I had one edit accepted to change the name and one rejected
https://vgcollect.com/item/169265
https://vgcollect.com/item/169264 <- I submitted an edit to make this one consistent and put "Original Cover" in the alt-name, just wanted to let you all know ahead of time
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: jjfly on March 23, 2020, 07:19:24 pm
Prototype - Platinum [EU] PS3
https://vgcollect.com/item/111211
A Frankenstein entry:
Cover picture is a pre-release one since real cover has PS3 slim style logo.
(Links for real covers Pegi rated: https://porvoonpelikauppa.fi/assets/shop/images/items/e4/e41926c5651327072853a5e5a0f2de18_medium.jpg
                                  BBFC rated: https://www.shop4se.com/ps3-games/prototype-game-platinum-ps3
Bar-code is from BBFC rated UK release (I own that release) whereas rating is listed as Pegi rated.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on March 24, 2020, 09:35:10 am
These listings with both image variants in the item are incorrect, no?
https://vgcollect.com/item/146247
https://vgcollect.com/item/139882

There is still some lack of consensus on how we are treating these dual cover art releases from LRG and Hard Copy Games, and how they are named, too.
(https://vgcollect.com/images/gallery/1/18947/2_ezgif-1-1a13ac093785.gif)
Removed the covers for these. As far as I know, we treat the cover variants as separate items since they come factory sealed that way. The LRG stuff is a nightmare in general and I thank you for going through and trying to fix a lot of these listings.


Ok, thanks for clarifying. I was told that games from Hard Copy Specifically (but also LRG) had their own names based on their website listings, but it's been my understanding that these listings do not say (Original Cover) or (Alternate Cover) on the box so we can't put that designation in the title.

So for this game I had one edit accepted to change the name and one rejected
https://vgcollect.com/item/169265
https://vgcollect.com/item/169264 <- I submitted an edit to make this one consistent and put "Original Cover" in the alt-name, just wanted to let you all know ahead of time

In general, terms like "original cover" and "variant cover" are going to be rejected on an edit, even if put into alt-name field. To alieviate this, put into the description where this name comes from, at the same time as trying to put a marketing name into alt-name. Such as "this item was sold on 'x company's website' as 'this dumb name'..."

Prototype - Platinum [EU] PS3
https://vgcollect.com/item/111211
A Frankenstein entry:
Cover picture is a pre-release one since real cover has PS3 slim style logo.
(Links for real covers Pegi rated: https://porvoonpelikauppa.fi/assets/shop/images/items/e4/e41926c5651327072853a5e5a0f2de18_medium.jpg
                                  BBFC rated: https://www.shop4se.com/ps3-games/prototype-game-platinum-ps3
Bar-code is from BBFC rated UK release (I own that release) whereas rating is listed as Pegi rated.

Changed to NL version. To presume original intent, somnlegacy added the rating and back text manually (you can tell, shift typo in text), so it clears it up as to what release it is. If the UK release is added to the db, this item can be [NL] and the UK one will have no TLD.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on March 24, 2020, 09:46:54 am
Sounds good  :)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tsj2001 on April 06, 2020, 10:08:00 am
Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance [ES]

https://vgcollect.com/item/176509

The front cover is real. This site is weird now, because I can't submit more than 1 cover picture, but the front cover has a Australian rating, but the manual and back cover is Spanish. A misprint, sure, but one, that exists.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tsj2001 on April 06, 2020, 11:33:45 am
Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance [ES]

https://vgcollect.com/item/176509

The front cover is real. This site is weird now, because I can't submit more than 1 cover picture, but the front cover has a Australian rating, but the manual and back cover is Spanish. A misprint, sure, but one, that exists.

Also, it's not an Australian copy, as it doesn't say "Licenced for sale in Australia and New Zealand Only".
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on April 06, 2020, 12:26:53 pm
Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance [ES]

https://vgcollect.com/item/176509

The front cover is real. This site is weird now, because I can't submit more than 1 cover picture, but the front cover has a Australian rating, but the manual and back cover is Spanish. A misprint, sure, but one, that exists.

Also, it's not an Australian copy, as it doesn't say "Licenced for sale in Australia and New Zealand Only".

It seems the normal release is en-gb/fr-fr languages for the AU release.
I can find the es-es language AU release only being sold on Ebay Spain.
In Ebay Italy, there is an it-it language AU release however there is an SAIE label present.

For this Spanish language version to be able to be put into EU category, it would need to have an import label present, or some documentation that it was actually sold. TLD is not reflective of what language is on the case. Language would use ICU locale codes, but we do not currently use them on the site.

Refs:
- Italian import version: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/KY8AAOSwf1xcQzMc/s-l1600.jpg
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: kevininja on April 09, 2020, 04:50:14 pm
A King's Tale Final Fantasy XV (Xbox One) [EU]
https://vgcollect.com/item/123080

Pretty sure this one is digital only, and doesn't have a standalone physical release.

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on April 10, 2020, 09:51:17 am
The only physical releases I can find are EU and AU PS4, it is included in the Day One Edition.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: frieman4993 on April 24, 2020, 05:27:05 pm
Hello,

Please correct the Publisher misspelling of "Stricly Limited Games ✗" to "Strictly Limited Games ✓"

Thank you!
(https://vgcollect.com/images/gallery/1/18947/2_ezgif-1-1a13ac093785.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on April 27, 2020, 11:17:16 am
Are all DLC releases of games supposed to have a dash or a colon? I ask because the dash in this entry was changed to a colon
https://vgcollect.com/item/130300

but my understanding is that it needs a dash because there is a standard release of this game as well. The Fire Fades Edition is a separate all-DLC release
https://vgcollect.com/item/105377


EDIT: The style guide states that Games denoting Special/Limited Editions, Box Sets, re-release series and/or special packs have a dash, which is what this game is.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on April 27, 2020, 12:03:44 pm
It should be a dash. I don't remember why it was changed on that one entry.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on May 03, 2020, 01:22:19 pm
Should these games have (Not for Resale) removed from the name since they are all unique entries in the section?

Example:
https://vgcollect.com/item/127025


Not sure where this should go, but it's not a demo and it's not a game that you could play either. It just served to provide customers with a download Pokemon
https://vgcollect.com/item/22874
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: aliensstudios on May 03, 2020, 03:01:54 pm
Should these games have (Not for Resale) removed from the name since they are all unique entries in the section?

Example:
https://vgcollect.com/item/127025


Not sure where this should go, but it's not a demo and it's not a game that you could play either. It just served to provide customers with a download Pokemon
https://vgcollect.com/item/22874
I would think for Tetris DS, since it is a demo and unique to that section, that the "Not for Resale" should be removed since it doesn't need that identifier to be unique. For Pokémon: Zoroark Distribution Cart, I think leaving it as a demo is the best choice. The only other thing to do is to label it as an accessory, which would probably be a decent option too.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on May 04, 2020, 09:43:19 am
For Tetris DS, is this actually a demo or an NFR? If it is not a demo it should go into the main game category. If it is a demo, it doesn't need "Not for Resale" descriptor but that should be in the alt-name.

For the Pokemon item, it is considered "software" and should be in the games category.
But I will say that non-game media for consoles is not really concise on where those items go. Like, what allows an item to be in a game category and not the accessory category? I'm thinking about other things that are in either, like media adapter discs (Game Boy player, Saturn VCD, etc) or Car License and the like. Certainly not things like RAM/ROM carts or Everdrive type things which are clearly accessories.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on May 04, 2020, 10:43:18 am
I would say because Tetris DS had not received a rating yet by the ESRB that it's a demo. There are other games in that category that do have their ESRB rating so for those I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on May 04, 2020, 12:07:24 pm
A demo meaning that it is not a full game, that it has a time or score limit or something like that. I don't think the lack of rating has anything to do with whether something can be a demo or not.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: jjfly on May 12, 2020, 08:02:34 am
Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories [EU] PS2
https://vgcollect.com/item/57482

and

Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories [UK] PS2

First seem to be duplicates but if you check edit history [EU] version had UK covers edited to it by vivigamer and barcode/item number/rating changed by tripredacus.

On the other hand [UK] versio rating is ELSPA???
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on May 12, 2020, 10:20:19 am
Merged as dupe. Remaining listing: https://vgcollect.com/item/57482
A lot of EU titles end up being franken-entries, or a generic entry (presumed UK) is changed in some way to a non-UK release. Then we would default the info back to UK pics/data. Dupes get created this way at times, especially because we aren't always using category views to find these items in the first place.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on May 14, 2020, 07:35:15 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/178835
https://vgcollect.com/item/178830
https://vgcollect.com/item/178822

(https://vgcollect.com/images/gallery/1/18947/2_ezgif-1-1a13ac093785.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: empovyle on May 15, 2020, 05:14:46 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/178852 blank

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on May 18, 2020, 06:02:48 pm
Should this have a TLD code or is this name okay?

https://vgcollect.com/item/157209
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on May 19, 2020, 09:21:37 am
Should this have a TLD code or is this name okay?

https://vgcollect.com/item/157209

The name is ok as it is, because the text in the descriptor (partially) matches text on the packaging.
Although, it can also be converted to full TLD instead, and put those countries names into box text.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: ignition365 on May 19, 2020, 06:35:37 pm
Battletoads "hardware"
https://vgcollect.com/item/173478

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: koemo1 on May 20, 2020, 03:17:37 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/91227

Blackthorne 32x in Europe, never got a release here
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on May 20, 2020, 04:39:08 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/91227

Blackthorne 32x in Europe, never got a release here

The entry clearly indicates it is a boot.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: koemo1 on May 20, 2020, 06:17:00 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/91227

Blackthorne 32x in Europe, never got a release here

The entry clearly indicates it is a boot.


Sorry
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: vivigamer on May 21, 2020, 02:45:15 am
Made a goof, Didn't realise the game had a different EU name and made the listing - sorries
https://vgcollect.com/item/179078

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: fazerco on May 21, 2020, 07:32:48 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/179086 (https://vgcollect.com/item/179086)blank
https://vgcollect.com/item/179087 (https://vgcollect.com/item/179087)blank

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: kevininja on May 27, 2020, 10:38:12 am
trials rising (Switch) [EU]
https://vgcollect.com/item/179285

I don't think there exists anything else but the Gold Edition for Trials Rising on Switch in Europe. The only few covers I could find without the Gold Edition banner were provisional ones.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on May 27, 2020, 11:11:10 am
trials rising (Switch) [EU]
https://vgcollect.com/item/179285

I don't think there exists anything else but the Gold Edition for Trials Rising on Switch in Europe. The only few covers I could find without the Gold Edition banner were provisional ones.

There is only one I can find, item listing updated.
ref: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/5qYAAOSwn3dezhbe/s-l1600.jpg
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: kevininja on May 28, 2020, 09:32:28 am
Shovel Knight (3DS eShop) [EU]
https://vgcollect.com/item/71057

Used to be called Shovel Knight, but is now sold as Shovel Knight: Treasure Trove:
https://vgcollect.com/item/154077


There's also this 2 Games in 1 Spongebob entry I've made ages ago and has been renamed a couple of times, but it's the Dutch cover for the game (which I originally submitted it for):
https://vgcollect.com/item/65648
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on May 28, 2020, 02:13:38 pm
Shovel Knight (3DS eShop) [EU]
https://vgcollect.com/item/71057

Used to be called Shovel Knight, but is now sold as Shovel Knight: Treasure Trove:
https://vgcollect.com/item/154077


There's also this 2 Games in 1 Spongebob entry I've made ages ago and has been renamed a couple of times, but it's the Dutch cover for the game (which I originally submitted it for):
https://vgcollect.com/item/65648

Is there a difference between the original Shovel Knight download and the Treasure Trove download?
Is it a case where the original release was replaced by the Treasure Trove version?
If so, then each entry can exist, but the original must have in description that it is no longer available for download.

For the 2 in 1, the item never had the correct title. I can see it now that one of the titles has the word Camera in it, but that word isn't in the item title.
Please submit and edit to put in the correct title.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: kevininja on May 28, 2020, 02:36:56 pm
Shovel Knight (3DS eShop) [EU]
https://vgcollect.com/item/71057

Used to be called Shovel Knight, but is now sold as Shovel Knight: Treasure Trove:
https://vgcollect.com/item/154077


There's also this 2 Games in 1 Spongebob entry I've made ages ago and has been renamed a couple of times, but it's the Dutch cover for the game (which I originally submitted it for):
https://vgcollect.com/item/65648

Is there a difference between the original Shovel Knight download and the Treasure Trove download?
Is it a case where the original release was replaced by the Treasure Trove version?
If so, then each entry can exist, but the original must have in description that it is no longer available for download.

For the 2 in 1, the item never had the correct title. I can see it now that one of the titles has the word Camera in it, but that word isn't in the item title.
Please submit and edit to put in the correct title.

There is no difference between the original Shovel Knight and Treasure Trove. I had the original Shovel Knight on my 3DS, but it got changed to Treasure Trove after an update. It's the same case with the other digital versions of the game.

Quote
Around the release of this new campaign, all existing versions of Shovel Knight, on all platforms, will become Shovel Knight: Treasure Trove! With three full-fledged character campaigns, Challenge Mode, local co-op, Body Swap, and somehow even more content on the way– Shovel Knight’s adventure has expanded considerably since the original release. Along with the change, the price of Shovel Knight will increase to $24.99 in March.

https://yachtclubgames.com/2017/02/specter-of-torment-and-treasure-trove-initial-release-date/


I've also submitted an edit for Spongebob with the correct title ;)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on May 29, 2020, 01:29:58 pm
There is no difference

And then you prove what is different.
It would seem the original version is no longer available. So then the question is, do we keep the old and new versions or not have the old version anymore?
Can you find an example in the db where we keep two different version entries?

Here is one, for Steam platform.
1. Duke Nukem 3D: https://vgcollect.com/item/92864
2. Duke Nukem 3D Megaton Edition: https://vgcollect.com/item/40913
3. Duke Nukem 3D 20th Anniversary World Tour: https://vgcollect.com/item/136998

In that scenario, #1 and #2 are no longer on the store. #1 was part of #2 and #3. Should we then merge 1 and 2 with 3?
Does this scenario not count because the app ids for each are all different, so then they can have separate entries? Then if so, did Shovel Knight's app id change when the new version came out?

Or an example where a Steam game had one appid that did not change, but had different versions. That would be when Next Car Game got renamed/released as Wreckfest. This isn't a great example because the db has a franken-entry for it, but I was able to confirm that Next Car Game's original appid (228380) is the current appid of Wreckfest.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: ignition365 on May 29, 2020, 04:16:31 pm
There is no difference

And then you prove what is different.
It would seem the original version is no longer available. So then the question is, do we keep the old and new versions or not have the old version anymore?
Can you find an example in the db where we keep two different version entries?

Here is one, for Steam platform.
1. Duke Nukem 3D: https://vgcollect.com/item/92864
2. Duke Nukem 3D Megaton Edition: https://vgcollect.com/item/40913
3. Duke Nukem 3D 20th Anniversary World Tour: https://vgcollect.com/item/136998

In that scenario, #1 and #2 are no longer on the store. #1 was part of #2 and #3. Should we then merge 1 and 2 with 3?
Does this scenario not count because the app ids for each are all different, so then they can have separate entries? Then if so, did Shovel Knight's app id change when the new version came out?

Or an example where a Steam game had one appid that did not change, but had different versions. That would be when Next Car Game got renamed/released as Wreckfest. This isn't a great example because the db has a franken-entry for it, but I was able to confirm that Next Car Game's original appid (228380) is the current appid of Wreckfest.
IIRC regarding Shovel Knight, Shovel Knight became Shovel Knight Treasure Trove.  No new ID, no new release, just the entry on the store changed.  If you bought Shovel Knight and look at your download history, it no longer lists Shovel Knight, it lists Shovel Knight Treasure Trove.

If there are two entries, 1 for Shovel Knight and 1 for Shovel Knight Treasure Trove, I would just merge the two entries.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: kevininja on May 30, 2020, 04:42:03 pm
There is no difference

And then you prove what is different.
It would seem the original version is no longer available. So then the question is, do we keep the old and new versions or not have the old version anymore?
Can you find an example in the db where we keep two different version entries?

Here is one, for Steam platform.
1. Duke Nukem 3D: https://vgcollect.com/item/92864
2. Duke Nukem 3D Megaton Edition: https://vgcollect.com/item/40913
3. Duke Nukem 3D 20th Anniversary World Tour: https://vgcollect.com/item/136998

In that scenario, #1 and #2 are no longer on the store. #1 was part of #2 and #3. Should we then merge 1 and 2 with 3?
Does this scenario not count because the app ids for each are all different, so then they can have separate entries? Then if so, did Shovel Knight's app id change when the new version came out?

Or an example where a Steam game had one appid that did not change, but had different versions. That would be when Next Car Game got renamed/released as Wreckfest. This isn't a great example because the db has a franken-entry for it, but I was able to confirm that Next Car Game's original appid (228380) is the current appid of Wreckfest.
IIRC regarding Shovel Knight, Shovel Knight became Shovel Knight Treasure Trove.  No new ID, no new release, just the entry on the store changed.  If you bought Shovel Knight and look at your download history, it no longer lists Shovel Knight, it lists Shovel Knight Treasure Trove.

If there are two entries, 1 for Shovel Knight and 1 for Shovel Knight Treasure Trove, I would just merge the two entries.

I'm using SteamDB for this.

The release date for Shovel Knight: Treasure Trove is listed as 26 June 2014, which was the date when it was still known as just Shovel Knight.
(https://abload.de/img/schermopname522_liwrkcn.jpg)

Then in April 2017, it's name was changed to Shovel Knight: Treasure Trove.
(https://abload.de/img/schermopname523nekng.png)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on May 30, 2020, 09:26:51 pm
Made an accidental edit to this listing to differentiate it from the silver disc variant (https://vgcollect.com/item/41301) originally thought the items had different item numbers, but they are the same (the fuzzy 8 looked like a 6 to me)  :o
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on June 01, 2020, 09:42:18 am
Made an accidental edit to this listing to differentiate it from the silver disc variant (https://vgcollect.com/item/41301) originally thought the items had different item numbers, but they are the same (the fuzzy 8 looked like a 6 to me)  :o

Are both the blue and silver discs the same media type? Or is the silver disc a DVD and the blue disc a CD?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: ignition365 on June 01, 2020, 09:45:01 am
Made an accidental edit to this listing to differentiate it from the silver disc variant (https://vgcollect.com/item/41301) originally thought the items had different item numbers, but they are the same (the fuzzy 8 looked like a 6 to me)  :o

Are both the blue and silver discs the same media type? Or is the silver disc a DVD and the blue disc a CD?
Both CD.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on June 01, 2020, 10:00:07 am
Shovel Knight merged with Treasure Trove.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on June 01, 2020, 05:15:58 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/20573

Back box art is from the Australian release, I submitted an edit to fix the front box art but could the back art be removed?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on June 02, 2020, 09:10:22 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/20573

Back box art is from the Australian release, I submitted an edit to fix the front box art but could the back art be removed?

OK this is a franken entry. What was the original front art? If it was the AU cover, it would have been better to move the entry into the AU category because the front art was from the item submitter.

The front art that you put is from the Italian version (Solo su PlayStation) sans SAIE label.

It appears UK never got a PSP Essentials. There is a "European English" release. It is one of the "yellow dot" releases, and example can be seen here: https://ebay.com/itm/123850004557
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on June 02, 2020, 09:48:07 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/20573

Back box art is from the Australian release, I submitted an edit to fix the front box art but could the back art be removed?

OK this is a franken entry. What was the original front art? If it was the AU cover, it would have been better to move the entry into the AU category because the front art was from the item submitter.

The front art that you put is from the Italian version (Solo su PlayStation) sans SAIE label.

It appears UK never got a PSP Essentials. There is a "European English" release. It is one of the "yellow dot" releases, and example can be seen here: https://ebay.com/itm/123850004557

I was under the impression it would be better to keep it in the category it is and change the image. Since 13 people have this game in their collections they added the EU version willingly.

Sorry about that, I'll try to find an better European English release image since that one has a giant sticker on it.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on June 02, 2020, 10:05:26 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/20573

Back box art is from the Australian release, I submitted an edit to fix the front box art but could the back art be removed?

OK this is a franken entry. What was the original front art? If it was the AU cover, it would have been better to move the entry into the AU category because the front art was from the item submitter.

The front art that you put is from the Italian version (Solo su PlayStation) sans SAIE label.

It appears UK never got a PSP Essentials. There is a "European English" release. It is one of the "yellow dot" releases, and example can be seen here: https://ebay.com/itm/123850004557

I was under the impression it would be better to keep it in the category it is and change the image. Since 13 people have this game in their collections they added the EU version willingly.

Sorry about that, I'll try to find an better European English release image since that one has a giant sticker on it.

We respect the intent of the original creator. If you had created an item in the db, added it to your collection, even if the item was put in the wrong section, how would you feel if someone had come along and changed all of the information on it? Would you care that 12 other people put the then altered item in their collection?

We can say to the people who added something into their collection... say AU game in EU section, that if they cared which version they had, they wouldn't add an AU game into their collection right? So if the AU game gets moved to the AU category because it was originally made in the wrong place, or because the EU game wasn't present, users can then change their collection info if they want.

If it was originally a generic entry that was frankensteined, then OK we could keep it in the EU category and make it the UK or European English version. That doesn't apply if actual data (such as pictures) is present when the item is created. Obviously, the info would need to match. IF the original images were mismatched, then we would have to choose what to make it into to fix it.

We can see from item edit history what came with the entry. For that one, we know the front/back was created with the entry and that the barcode was added later (and, doesn't match the barcode as seen on back image).

So again, if the original front art was AU, it should be replaced or we can remove the Italian front art you put, then remove the barcode and move the entry into AU category.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on June 02, 2020, 10:26:34 am
We respect the intent of the original creator. If you had created an item in the db, added it to your collection, even if the item was put in the wrong section, how would you feel if someone had come along and changed all of the information on it? Would you care that 12 other people put the then altered item in their collection?

We can say to the people who added something into their collection... say AU game in EU section, that if they cared which version they had, they wouldn't add an AU game into their collection right? So if the AU game gets moved to the AU category because it was originally made in the wrong place, or because the EU game wasn't present, users can then change their collection info if they want.

If it was originally a generic entry that was frankensteined, then OK we could keep it in the EU category and make it the UK or European English version. That doesn't apply if actual data (such as pictures) is present when the item is created. Obviously, the info would need to match. IF the original images were mismatched, then we would have to choose what to make it into to fix it.

We can see from item edit history what came with the entry. For that one, we know the front/back was created with the entry and that the barcode was added later (and, doesn't match the barcode as seen on back image).

So again, if the original front art was AU, it should be replaced or we can remove the Italian front art you put, then remove the barcode and move the entry into AU category.

I would be more upset if someone wrongly changed the region of my item as compared to changing the image. The region is far, far more important. I don't think regions should be changed at all once the item is in someone's collection. It's too messy. And it's ultimately not our concern if the creator gets upset over that because they made a mistake putting in conflicting data to begin with.

We don't really know the intent of the original creator. They may have intended for it to be an EU release and put in the wrong art by accident (I put in the wrong art by accident trying to edit the item after all ;) ). In fact, I scrolled through 20 pages of that user's collection and only found 4 AU games. 90% of that person's collection is either EU or no region. And all the people who have that item are either EU dominated or a mix of regions.

So ultimately we have to GUESS what the original user intended the item to be, because it isn't clear. Because it's not clear, I would rather keep the item where it is. Because either way we have to make people change their collection, and from a practicality standpoint, it's simply better to force 1 person to change their collection as opposed to 12. I mean, what if hundreds of people had this item in their collection? That just doesn't seem right.

But while I disagree that this is the correct path to take, I can submit do the edits to make this an AU release because it looks like their location is Australia based on their forum profile. I have an image of the EU yellow dot release so I can edit the AU entry I made to be in the EU category. It's just more work on our end to remove all the EU data from this release and then move the two items across platforms.

https://vgcollect.com/item/179560
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: kevininja on June 02, 2020, 10:58:58 am
vita (PlayStation Vita) [EU]
https://vgcollect.com/item/133428

Blank entry with no more information than the name.

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on June 02, 2020, 12:04:54 pm
And it's ultimately not our concern if the creator gets upset over that because they made a mistake putting in conflicting data to begin with.

We don't really know the intent of the original creator.

This is no different to how a library would operate. They do not conform the card catalog to the users. They would not put a book in a wrong section because somebody had come by once and moved it, even if 13 people kept moving a specific book to the wrong shelf.

We base the intent by the origin data. The important aspects are the art selected, item number and barcode. If this origin data is not present and was then added later and it resulted in a franken entry, then yes we would reach out to someone who had it in collection to verify what they own and fix the entry. This happens all the time behind the scenes.

If this entry was created as a "blank" or title-only entry, and AU pictures were added later, then yes, we would change the entry to the "yellow dot" release. It wasn't. The item was created with AU pictures, so the item should be moved to AU category. It is not uncommon that EU people add AU games to EU categories, because of the simple fact that you can find AU games in EU because they were imported. You can find AU games on the various EU Ebays quite easily. It is no different from other real-world examples such as EU SMS or Atari games being available in the secondary market in the US, and people have added those EU releases to NA categories here. At least the SMS categories have been fixed in this regard, but the Atari console cart sections still have EU games in NA.

What I really wish for tho, is that there could be some sort of notification system (opt-in of course) where if you have an item in your collection and it had its box art, barcode or category changed, that you could get a notification of it. Then you could adjust your collection if you wanted to in case you had added an item by mistake, or maybe you added a franken entry that got fixed, etc.

EDIT: yes, change your entry you made to the EU yellow dot if you have the art, move to EU category.
I will take care of the other entry now.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: desocietas on June 05, 2020, 05:21:27 pm
Ys I (Legacy of Ys: Book I & II - Remake)
https://vgcollect.com/item/179713

Noticed this one - will email record creator to see which item they meant to list (item is listed as PS3 (NA) but cover is not NA cover).

Also will email them about this one:

Final Fantasy X HD Remaster
https://vgcollect.com/item/179712
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: bigbossman on June 07, 2020, 06:01:27 pm
Hi,

I created an entry for ACA NeoGeo: Shock Troopers: 2nd Squad. I accidentally put in the Playstation 4 [NA] database. It was supposed to be put in the PSN [NA]. It can be found here:

https://www.vgcollect.com/item/179869

Can someone move it to the correct database?

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: desocietas on June 08, 2020, 02:39:32 am
Hi!

You should be able to edit it yourself by clicking on the "edit this item" option on the top right of the record. Once you edit the item, it'll be sent to a queue for the moderators to approve or deny. If they deny your change, you can post to the Error Listings thread (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10555.0.html) to get the attention of a mod there. Hope that helps!
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: vivigamer on June 08, 2020, 04:08:08 am
Xenogears Never got a European Release - Not even digitally (Correct me if I am wrong, but it is why I have a USA PSN)
Xenogears PSN USA (Correct) - https://vgcollect.com/item/26915
Xenogears PSN EU (WRONG) - https://vgcollect.com/item/132897

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: kevininja on June 08, 2020, 09:45:54 am
TxK - PlayStation Network (PS4) [NA]
https://vgcollect.com/item/69251

Was planned for PS4, but didn't end up happening: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TxK

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: bigbossman on June 08, 2020, 10:23:20 am
Hi!

You should be able to edit it yourself by clicking on the "edit this item" option on the top right of the record. Once you edit the item, it'll be sent to a queue for the moderators to approve or deny. If they deny your change, you can post to the Error Listings thread (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10555.0.html) to get the attention of a mod there. Hope that helps!

Thanks. I got it squared away. I never noticed being able to edit which system it was for after being submitted.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: fazerco on June 09, 2020, 01:39:06 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/180094 (https://vgcollect.com/item/180094) Blank

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: ootos on June 10, 2020, 04:06:53 pm
Two listings to consider

https://vgcollect.com/item/134970 - Grand Kingdom (Alternate box) - Rear cover and Barcode refer to European French Edition with French Language https://www.tradergames.fr/en/ps-vita/grand-kingdom-psvita-fr-occasion-54574.html (https://www.tradergames.fr/en/ps-vita/grand-kingdom-psvita-fr-occasion-54574.html)

https://vgcollect.com/item/27751  - Army Corps of Hell - Cover and Barcode refer to Version which has 'Not For Sale in the UK' printed under the rating information on rear cover
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on June 10, 2020, 04:15:37 pm
Two listings to consider

https://vgcollect.com/item/134970 - Grand Kingdom (Alternate box) - Rear cover and Barcode refer to European French Edition with French Language https://www.tradergames.fr/en/ps-vita/grand-kingdom-psvita-fr-occasion-54574.html (https://www.tradergames.fr/en/ps-vita/grand-kingdom-psvita-fr-occasion-54574.html)


https://vgcollect.com/item/27751  - Army Corps of Hell - Cover and Barcode refer to Version which has 'Not For Sale in the UK' printed under the rating information on rear cover

Grand Kingdom (Alternate box) changed to [NL]
It is not the French release. This is the French version: https://ebay.fr/itm/222619047847
Note the red Attention block on the back.

For Army Corps of Hell, that text should be put in description. If no country of origin can be traced, then the entry can stay as is.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: kevininja on June 11, 2020, 10:09:33 am
Crash Bandicoot 2: Cortex Strikes Back
https://vgcollect.com/item/57940 - PlayStation Network (Vita) [EU]
https://vgcollect.com/item/148919 -  PlayStation Network (PS3) [EU]

Both have an incorrect category, already listed as a PSone Classic [EU]:
https://vgcollect.com/item/28506

The next one I'm not too sure of, it's a PlayStation Network (PSP) [EU] game originally but it's also playable on the Vita:
https://vgcollect.com/item/86372 - PlayStation Network (Vita) [EU]

https://vgcollect.com/item/86430 - PlayStation Network (PSP) [EU]
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on June 11, 2020, 11:31:13 am
The next one I'm not too sure of, it's a PlayStation Network (PSP) [EU] game originally but it's also playable on the Vita:
https://vgcollect.com/item/86372 - PlayStation Network (Vita) [EU]

https://vgcollect.com/item/86430 - PlayStation Network (PSP) [EU]

This is an example of a major problem we have with the database. The fact that our database layout does not match the actual online platform. Because of the fact that you can also get that from the PSN for PS3 is the issue. So this is a situation where dupes are currently allowed to exist. Either the categories need to be reworked or we need specific rules as for where the cross-platform games should be put. I personally do not like that there is a PSOne Classics category to begin with, I don't think it is the correct way to store this information.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on June 11, 2020, 05:01:27 pm
"PS5 games"

https://vgcollect.com/item/180412 to https://vgcollect.com/item/180415

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on June 12, 2020, 09:22:49 am
Also the PS5 entry was moved from PlayStation Hardware (for the PS1) to Hardware [NA].
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: fazerco on June 12, 2020, 10:30:35 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/140825 (https://vgcollect.com/item/140825) wrong picture.

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: fazerco on June 13, 2020, 01:20:36 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/180603 (https://vgcollect.com/item/180603) blank
https://vgcollect.com/item/180604 (https://vgcollect.com/item/180604) blank
(https://vgcollect.com/images/gallery/1/18947/2_ezgif-1-1a13ac093785.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: ootos on June 13, 2020, 06:18:49 pm

https://vgcollect.com/item/41319 - Uploaded new scans but were rejected - Current Front Scan has Watermark in bottom left hand corner, rear scan has different barcode to what's listed.

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: kevininja on June 15, 2020, 05:03:05 am
Blank entry:
https://vgcollect.com/item/180929

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on June 15, 2020, 09:21:40 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/41319 - Uploaded new scans but were rejected - Current Front Scan has Watermark in bottom left hand corner, rear scan has different barcode to what's listed.

Mobygames used to have a watermark on their images but removed it a few years ago. I do not know what art you tried to put, but any mobygames marked image can be replaced with whatever image is on their site now. In other words, it is better to use their new image to replace their old image instead of using a photo.

The barcode appears to be from a Scandinavian release, as I can get text results from Finnish websites, but I am not able to get to any of them for some reason.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: kevininja on June 15, 2020, 11:31:51 am
Amazing Aquarium 3D HiQ Dynamic Theme - PlayStation Network (PS4) [NA]
https://vgcollect.com/item/140914

This is just a PS4 theme. It's neither a DLC, expansion or game.

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: SilverBow on June 15, 2020, 01:02:42 pm
Logitech Driving Force for PlayStation 2
https://vgcollect.com/item/45777
Please pull front and back images. They are not images of the North American release which I will post.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: fazerco on June 16, 2020, 01:13:26 pm
You wonder why......

https://vgcollect.com/item/181059 (https://vgcollect.com/item/181059)


And its the image.
(https://vgcollect.com/images/gallery/1/18947/2_ezgif-1-1a13ac093785.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: pzeke on June 16, 2020, 07:42:08 pm
As far as I know, this has nothing to do with any of the games... (https://vgcollect.com/item/181116)
(https://vgcollect.com/images/gallery/1/18947/2_ezgif-1-1a13ac093785.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: koemo1 on June 17, 2020, 07:02:55 am
Xbox One game in the Xbox section: [EU]
Snooker 19:
https://vgcollect.com/item/166305
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on June 17, 2020, 08:10:46 am
Logitech Driving Force for PlayStation 2
https://vgcollect.com/item/45777
Please pull front and back images. They are not images of the North American release which I will post.

Those images came with the entry, so they cannot be pulled. Are you instead saying the barcode is wrong?

Xbox One game in the Xbox section: [EU]
Snooker 19:
https://vgcollect.com/item/166305

You can change the category with an edit. Did you try to already and was rejected?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: SilverBow on June 17, 2020, 11:19:23 am
Logitech Driving Force for PlayStation 2
https://vgcollect.com/item/45777
Please pull front and back images. They are not images of the North American release which I will post.

Those images came with the entry, so they cannot be pulled. Are you instead saying the barcode is wrong?

The UPC is correct, but the images are not. I purchased this item 20 years ago, and it is still in my possession.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: ootos on June 17, 2020, 10:40:37 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/181155 - Blank

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: kevininja on June 18, 2020, 05:26:29 am
A bunch of PSone Classics [EU] that are listed as PSN (PS3) [EU] games that are already on VGCollect.

https://vgcollect.com/item/116183
https://vgcollect.com/item/119114
https://vgcollect.com/item/148920
https://vgcollect.com/item/149353
https://vgcollect.com/item/132907 (Never released under PSone Classics)
https://vgcollect.com/item/132902
https://vgcollect.com/item/132901
https://vgcollect.com/item/132918
https://vgcollect.com/item/132914
https://vgcollect.com/item/132911
https://vgcollect.com/item/132917
https://vgcollect.com/item/84086
https://vgcollect.com/item/86640
https://vgcollect.com/item/111072
https://vgcollect.com/item/132903
https://vgcollect.com/item/119123
https://vgcollect.com/item/132896
https://vgcollect.com/item/119125
https://vgcollect.com/item/119121
https://vgcollect.com/item/119122
https://vgcollect.com/item/132915
https://vgcollect.com/item/132899
https://vgcollect.com/item/132898
https://vgcollect.com/item/88443
https://vgcollect.com/item/132908
https://vgcollect.com/item/119126
https://vgcollect.com/item/132895
https://vgcollect.com/item/132904 (Only in NA)

A couple of PS2 Classics [EU] that are listed as PSN (PS3) [EU] games that are already on VGCollect.

https://vgcollect.com/item/132877 (Only in NA)
https://vgcollect.com/item/132890
https://vgcollect.com/item/132878

ModNation Racers: Road Trip - PSN (PS3) [EU]
https://vgcollect.com/item/82193

Vita only, already on VGCollect.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on June 18, 2020, 09:24:54 am
Logitech Driving Force for PlayStation 2
https://vgcollect.com/item/45777
Please pull front and back images. They are not images of the North American release which I will post.

Those images came with the entry, so they cannot be pulled. Are you instead saying the barcode is wrong?

The UPC is correct, but the images are not. I purchased this item 20 years ago, and it is still in my possession.

The images came with the entry, the entry should be that specific European release. If the barcode is wrong, we can remove that but we cannot change this entry to the US version. I cannot verify the barcode for this version, so it stays unless you or someone else can provide what the barcode should be.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on June 18, 2020, 09:26:47 am
A bunch of PSone Classics [EU] that are listed as PSN (PS3) [EU] games that are already on VGCollect.

We do not delete entries that are in-collection unless they are items that are not something we track. If these are dupes, post them as usual in the dupes thread.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: kevininja on June 18, 2020, 01:55:19 pm
A bunch of PSone Classics [EU] that are listed as PSN (PS3) [EU] games that are already on VGCollect.

We do not delete entries that are in-collection unless they are items that are not something we track. If these are dupes, post them as usual in the dupes thread.

So if I post the PS3 PSN games that have an incorrect platform and link their respective PSone Classics/PS2 Classics entries, that would be good to post in the Duplicates thread? Just making sure.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: sharanden on June 19, 2020, 08:30:43 am
These entries were incorrectly put up as being original PlayStation hardware:
https://vgcollect.com/item/175304
https://vgcollect.com/item/181302

(https://vgcollect.com/images/gallery/1/18947/2_ezgif-1-1a13ac093785.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on June 19, 2020, 01:21:54 pm
What's our stance on entries for Youtube? it's not a game...

https://vgcollect.com/search/YouTube
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: aliensstudios on June 19, 2020, 11:00:00 pm
What's our stance on entries for Youtube? it's not a game...

https://vgcollect.com/search/YouTube
We had somebody add a bunch of pre-installed software for the Nintendo eShop category earlier this year and it all got removed since it wasn't really. YouTube isn't preinstalled software, but it isn't really a game either. Personally I'd say remove it, but perhaps we can wait until Tripredacus weighs in. I have a feeling it'll be allowed because it's technically an eShop offering
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: pzeke on June 21, 2020, 11:10:29 am
These two entries seem rather suspicious...

item/181449 (https://vgcollect.com/item/181449)
item/181450 (https://vgcollect.com/item/181450)


(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on June 22, 2020, 09:18:54 am
A bunch of PSone Classics [EU] that are listed as PSN (PS3) [EU] games that are already on VGCollect.

We do not delete entries that are in-collection unless they are items that are not something we track. If these are dupes, post them as usual in the dupes thread.

So if I post the PS3 PSN games that have an incorrect platform and link their respective PSone Classics/PS2 Classics entries, that would be good to post in the Duplicates thread? Just making sure.

Yes, if they are in the wrong category, they can be merged with a dupe that is in the correct category.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on June 22, 2020, 09:24:26 am
What's our stance on entries for Youtube? it's not a game...

https://vgcollect.com/search/YouTube
We had somebody add a bunch of pre-installed software for the Nintendo eShop category earlier this year and it all got removed since it wasn't really. YouTube isn't preinstalled software, but it isn't really a game either. Personally I'd say remove it, but perhaps we can wait until Tripredacus weighs in. I have a feeling it'll be allowed because it's technically an eShop offering

They are allowed for now until we can establish the following:
- find an example of a non-game on the platform that we should track
- find an example of a non-game on the platform that we should definitely not track

Youtube does not really fit into either of these categories.
For the "not track" situation, think about programs for other consoles (not computers) that we do not track such as productivity software. I have no idea what is on those storefronts.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: kevininja on June 23, 2020, 01:33:18 pm
A bunch of PSone Classics [EU] that are listed as PSN (PS3) [EU] games that are already on VGCollect.

We do not delete entries that are in-collection unless they are items that are not something we track. If these are dupes, post them as usual in the dupes thread.
So if I post the PS3 PSN games that have an incorrect platform and link their respective PSone Classics/PS2 Classics entries, that would be good to post in the Duplicates thread? Just making sure.

Yes, if they are in the wrong category, they can be merged with a dupe that is in the correct category.

Ah cool, I'll post in there sometime this week then!
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on June 25, 2020, 10:30:11 am
Super Mario Run

https://vgcollect.com/item/178836

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: kevininja on June 26, 2020, 05:11:12 am
Aquarium: Nexus Dynamic Theme -  PSN (PS3) [NA]
https://vgcollect.com/item/140915

Another entry that's just a PS3 theme.

Bayonetta - PSN (PS3) [EU]
https://vgcollect.com/item/88153

Uses images from the physical release for it's back cover and disc art.

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on June 26, 2020, 05:48:49 pm
Final Fantasy VII - Nintendo Switch [NA] (https://vgcollect.com/item/178845)
This is a digital item only with no physical release. An entry for its digital copy already exists.  (https://vgcollect.com/item/157703)

Final Fantasy VIII Remastered - Nintendo Switch [NA] (https://vgcollect.com/item/178846)
This is a digital item only with no physical release. An entry for its digital copy already exists.  (https://vgcollect.com/item/163152)

Final Fantasy VII & Final Fantasy VIII Remastered: Twin Pack [NA] (https://vgcollect.com/item/181719)
This is a physical item only for [CN] and not [NA]. An entry for its physical [CN] copy already exists.  (https://vgcollect.com/item/167355)

Final Fantasy IX - Nintendo Switch [NA] (https://vgcollect.com/item/178844)
This is a digital item only with no physical release. An entry for its digital copy already exists.  (https://vgcollect.com/item/157771)

Huntdown - Nintendo Switch [NA] (https://vgcollect.com/item/178753)
This is a digital item only with no physical release. An entry for its digital copy already exists.  (https://vgcollect.com/item/178761)

Resident Evil 4 - Nintendo Switch [NA] (https://vgcollect.com/item/178053)
This is a digital item only with no physical release. An entry for its digital copy already exists.  (https://vgcollect.com/item/162256)


(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on June 29, 2020, 10:37:55 am
All of those were merged as dupes with exception to the custom game entry. That one was deleted and a PM sent to the user stating we do not track custom or homemade items as individual entries.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: EzelB28 on July 02, 2020, 10:09:07 am
I have a physical British release of "Call of Duty 2 - Game of the Year," however, there's one in the database that exists already:
https://vgcollect.com/item/98618
and it is an EU non-UK release, since this existing release has PEGI ratings on it's cover art, while the one I have has a BBFC 15 age rating on the art. The description for the existing one also says "NOT FOR SUPPLY IN THE UK."

I would like to add my release to the database, but I'm not sure how to handle it, since UK releases don't need to be labeled as such according to the style guide and this existing one has no label, but isn't a UK release. The best information I could find about the potential country of this existing release is it being from Netherlands, according to some images from MobyGames:
https://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/call-of-duty-2-game-of-the-year-edition/cover-art/gameCoverId,244513
https://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/call-of-duty-2-game-of-the-year-edition/cover-art/gameCoverId,244514
https://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/call-of-duty-2-game-of-the-year-edition/cover-art/gameCoverId,244515.
These images seem to match the ones on the existing release, making me believe it is from the Netherlands as listed on those images, however, there's not much info on the country other than what was contributed with these images, so it could be another country too, but I'm fairly sure it is non-UK at least due to reasons listed prior.

The barcode and item numbers on my copy are also different from this existing one, but besides the barcode, item numbers and the age rating listed, the art is largely the same from what I can gather, with minor differences in regards of positioning of elements on the disc art. The disc of my copy has a BBFC rating, placed on the right, rather than left compared to this release.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on July 02, 2020, 10:39:53 am
Ok the problem with that particular entry is that while Mobygames says it is NL release, and you can find it on Ebay NL, you can also find it in other countries. Without a clear indication that the game is an NL release and not a general EU release, we can't just put NL onto the name of that one. Perhaps there is something in the manual of that particular version that gives a better indication, or perhaps a sealed copy has a label that helps. Until it can be determined, that will have to stay that way.

So for your UK release with the BBFC rating on it, you can make a new entry and name it Call of Duty 2 - Game of the Year [UK].
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: kevininja on July 03, 2020, 02:23:28 pm
LEGO Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Special Edition) - Xbox 360 [EU]
https://vgcollect.com/item/181991

Shouldn't these images be two separate entries? 

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: fazerco on July 04, 2020, 04:33:44 am
LEGO Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Special Edition) - Xbox 360 [EU]
https://vgcollect.com/item/181991

Shouldn't these images be two separate entries?
Maybe, but the bottom one is a provisionol cover.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on July 06, 2020, 09:33:31 am
Yes, in general there should not be 1 entry to handle multiple variants.

The only time that we would allow an entry like that is to handle variants that are beyond the box and cart.
For example, when I was researching all of the Genesis variants, there was some releases that had the same box and cart, but had different inserts. Where there were two releases but the only difference was a different poster or a different registration card. Also some where same box+ cart but could be color or b/w manual. This is why there are Genesis variants on the spreadsheet that aren't in the DB. It is also why many of the EU releases for Mega Drive games are not in the DB, where the only difference between one country and UK release is a different manual... or an additional localised manual.

When it comes to variants, typically like to stick to the variant revolving around the box or the media itself. If it is something besides those two things, then it doesn't need another entry.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on July 06, 2020, 10:00:09 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/22542

Back image is not appropriate quality

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: iamstarwars on July 07, 2020, 07:23:39 am
Yes, in general there should not be 1 entry to handle multiple variants.

The only time that we would allow an entry like that is to handle variants that are beyond the box and cart.
For example, when I was researching all of the Genesis variants, there was some releases that had the same box and cart, but had different inserts. Where there were two releases but the only difference was a different poster or a different registration card. Also some where same box+ cart but could be color or b/w manual. This is why there are Genesis variants on the spreadsheet that aren't in the DB. It is also why many of the EU releases for Mega Drive games are not in the DB, where the only difference between one country and UK release is a different manual... or an additional localised manual.

When it comes to variants, typically like to stick to the variant revolving around the box or the media itself. If it is something besides those two things, then it doesn't need another entry.

Apologies!
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: grandta13 on July 08, 2020, 04:59:34 pm
This is kind of the opposite of what this thread is for, but I didn't think this was worth starting a new thread.

Please reject the edits that I posted for Nakayoshi Pet Series 2: Kawaii Usagi (https://vgcollect.com/item/105798 (https://vgcollect.com/item/105798)).
I wasn't paying close attention and mistook it for a different game, which happens to also have the words Kawaii, Pet, and 2 in the title. (かわいいペットショップ物語2)

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on July 09, 2020, 09:58:11 am
My edits to change the name of these Pokémon games was rejected

https://vgcollect.com/item/33769
https://vgcollect.com/item/33770
https://vgcollect.com/item/56765
https://vgcollect.com/item/33762
https://vgcollect.com/item/33763


These games say Pokémon on the box in English, so that is what they should be called. They should not have been changed to Pocket Monsters.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on July 09, 2020, 10:04:44 am
My edits to change the name of these Pokémon games was rejected

https://vgcollect.com/item/33769
https://vgcollect.com/item/33770
https://vgcollect.com/item/56765
https://vgcollect.com/item/33762
https://vgcollect.com/item/33763


These games say Pokémon on the box in English, so that is what they should be called. They should not have been changed to Pocket Monsters.

There is no name exception for Pokemon games. The names you put did not match GameFaqs, and also the current names do not either.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on July 09, 2020, 10:09:54 am
My edits to change the name of these Pokémon games was rejected

https://vgcollect.com/item/33769
https://vgcollect.com/item/33770
https://vgcollect.com/item/56765
https://vgcollect.com/item/33762
https://vgcollect.com/item/33763


These games say Pokémon on the box in English, so that is what they should be called. They should not have been changed to Pocket Monsters.

There is no name exception for Pokemon games. The names you put did not match GameFaqs, and also the current names do not either.

Gamefaqs has nothing to do with it. The guidelines we established with Japanese games is that English takes priority on the box.

And if we're just not following those guidelines anymore (which are still referenced in your language thread) then I'd ask for a name exception for all Japanese Pokemon games. We have the same kind of exceptions for roman numerals (like with BO IIII), it should also be the case for non-english games with English on the cover.

All my edits to fix the 3DS games when they were changed were accepted, so at the very least there's inconsistency here.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on July 09, 2020, 10:17:12 am
The language thread is not the rules. The Style Guide (both the existing thread in this section, and the advanced one which is in progress) are the rules.

The community voted to use common names for game titles, which is irrespective of what text is actually on the item itself. Particularly so we wouldn't have to have debates or have to think about what to name items.

If you want, we can make a common name exception vote, post into this thread (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,8361.0.html) with the naming convention you propose, and we can make a poll for the community to decide.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on July 09, 2020, 10:34:42 am
The language thread is not the rules. The Style Guide (both the existing thread in this section, and the advanced one which is in progress) are the rules.

The community voted to use common names for game titles, which is irrespective of what text is actually on the item itself. Particularly so we wouldn't have to have debates or have to think about what to name items.

If you want, we can make a common name exception vote, post into this thread (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,8361.0.html) with the naming convention you propose, and we can make a poll for the community to decide.


There's literally a link to that thread in the style guide two times. How is that thread even remotely not part of the rules for naming?

Quote
Additional rules for (in)definite articles are located here: https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,7316.0.html

Use the item's commonly accepted regional release title, written in the language written on the case, but in the Latin alphabet (the letters we commonly use.)
Latin characters thread: https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,7316.0.html

And as far as I'm aware, half of the name exceptions were not made with any community involvement, least of all a formal poll where people voted. BLOPS IIII and MM Legacy Collection 1+2 were not. There are other games that aren't even in the exception list like RDR II. Because we as a community already decided on the naming convention for non-latin games, and the fact that it's already part of the rules (or at the very least integrated into the rules as such), I see no reason why we need to have another formal poll on it. But, if that's what the community wants to do, I'll concede.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on July 09, 2020, 10:40:29 am
There's literally a link to that thread in the style guide two times. How is that thread even remotely not part of the rules for naming?

This thread?
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,7316.0.html

It was only meant to specifically refer to the ASCII codes and the foreign language (in)definite articles portion of the first post, not the contents of the entire thread. I will copy that info out of that thread and into its own post on the Style Guide page.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on July 09, 2020, 10:46:13 am
Oh ah and I see the link to your post about naming Japanese games. Unfortunately, that was overriden by the common names vote, in general. However, it can still be valid for titles of items not from a naming source, or for alt-name field usage.

- Removed the Mega Man Legacy Collection exemption.
- Reformatted the Style Guide to contain the information rather than link to a discussion topic.
- Will create a post on the Advanced Style Guide for ASCII characters and codes.
- set pending the roman numerals rule on the Advanced Guide
- will call a vote on whether we should always use a roman numerals override on common names (would effect both the Black Ops 4 and Resident Evil 7 common name exemptions which were not voted for)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on July 09, 2020, 11:06:49 am
Oh ah and I see the link to your post about naming Japanese games. Unfortunately, that was overriden by the common names vote, in general. However, it can still be valid for titles of items not from a naming source, or for alt-name field usage.


The Pokemon games are not going to be the only problem, there are other games with English and a Japanese equivalent that don't match up.

For example

https://vgcollect.com/item/98212

GF name is Kirby no Air Ride

It's very frustrating to see that now that I've brought this up "oh sorry, that whole naming convention doesn't count anymore". It's been part of the style guide for years.



Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on July 09, 2020, 11:14:47 am
And when the original poll was made, you specifically stated it would not change how we do transliteration, which is what led me to believe that our previous naming conventions would be left intact, as this was mainly pertaining to stylization of the name, not what words/language we should be using.

Quote
This poll is specifically to put into the Style Guide what names for games we should actually be using. This is to clarify the "regional release title" as specified in the Style Guide. This will not change any of our existing formatting rules for descriptors, packs, TLDs or transliteration. This is due to the current inference that items in the database need to use the full front title, using blanket conditions created by the practice of putting Disney/Pixar onto titles where they commonly are not used on other websites. This had led to confusion among many as to what names should actually be used on games, as often the name a game is known as does not match what is printed on the cover.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on July 09, 2020, 11:21:05 am
I'm fully aware of the situation. The common names vote also invalidated most of the entries I made for the Japanese Sega releases, and we still haven't gotten around to fixing those. I didn't vote for using this naming convention, but the poll clearly indicated we had to use it. It is a concession we have to make as long as there is only 1 item name field. Ideally, we should have more than one item name field, and then let the users decide which one shows up by default for them. Then me and you can name things the way we like and those who want common names can have their way also.

EDIT: it doesn't change transliteration, as in what is needed to be done for items without common names. But if a release has a common name, users don't need to figure out how to translate a foreign title anymore. Only need to to transliteration if there is no common name.
EDIT2: transliteration also is done for pack/edition names and is still current.
EDIT3: for example, we would still use Genteiban instead of "Limited Edition" on an item that has a Japanese common name that includes a pack name. It was an attempt to limit people from creating edition descriptors like "First Print Limited Edition", "Launch Editon" or using the term Bundle.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on July 09, 2020, 11:28:28 am
haha, well, I'd certainly rather have this quandary then having to change every entry of Resident Evil 4 to "4 Resident Evil", or Trans Formers or all the other silly examples. :P This is a far, far better solution in my opinion. But neither is perfect.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: grandta13 on July 10, 2020, 09:19:52 pm
Below are some rejected edits that I would like more information on:

Game: Legend of Zelda, The: Link's Awakening DX (black ESRB)
Field: item_number
Original Value: DMG-AZLE-USA
New Value: DMG-AZLE-USA-1
Rejection Reason: Action Not Allowed.
Link: https://vgcollect.com/item/5247 (https://vgcollect.com/item/5247)
There are two versions of this game, the black ESRB logo version (https://vgcollect.com/item/5247), and the white ESRB logo version (https://vgcollect.com/item/102979). The white logo version has the item number DMG-AZLE-USA. The black logo version has the item number DMG-AZLE-USA-1, which can be seen in the cartridge photo.

Game: Pokémon: Blue Version (black ESRB)
Field: item_number
Original Value: DMG-APEE-USA
New Value: DMG-APEE-USA-1
Rejection Reason: Action Not Allowed.
Link: https://vgcollect.com/item/97614 (https://vgcollect.com/item/97614)
There are two versions of this game, the black ESRB logo version (https://vgcollect.com/item/97614), and the white ESRB logo version (https://vgcollect.com/item/5274). The white logo version has the item number DMG-APEE-USA. The black logo version has the item number DMG-APEE-USA-1, which can be seen in the cartridge photo.

EDIT: I've just submitted the cartridge IDs into the Description fields. From what I can see, it seems the item ID is incorrect based on the current standard of prioritising the ID on the box instead of the media. However, I don't have the physical box to verify the item number for each revision.

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: psxlegacy on July 13, 2020, 03:26:35 am
duplicate entries

https://vgcollect.com/item/104586

https://vgcollect.com/item/134421



Non existant games in NA

https://vgcollect.com/item/15938

https://vgcollect.com/item/33632 (was actually a PAL game)

https://vgcollect.com/item/1737 (never released)

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on July 13, 2020, 10:02:39 am
Changing of an item number, especially a Nintendo number with -1/2 is an automatic reject, similar to those who try to change barcodes.
However, these two entries have the card item number on the main item number field, which are both wrong.
I have changed the Zelda item number. With the -1/2  variations, at least on US releases, the main item number doesn't change. It would only be the ones on the cart or potentially on the box flap.

Below are some rejected edits that I would like more information on:

Game: Legend of Zelda, The: Link's Awakening DX (black ESRB)
Field: item_number
Original Value: DMG-AZLE-USA
New Value: DMG-AZLE-USA-1
Rejection Reason: Action Not Allowed.
Link: https://vgcollect.com/item/5247 (https://vgcollect.com/item/5247)
There are two versions of this game, the black ESRB logo version (https://vgcollect.com/item/5247), and the white ESRB logo version (https://vgcollect.com/item/102979). The white logo version has the item number DMG-AZLE-USA. The black logo version has the item number DMG-AZLE-USA-1, which can be seen in the cartridge photo.

Game: Pokémon: Blue Version (black ESRB)
Field: item_number
Original Value: DMG-APEE-USA
New Value: DMG-APEE-USA-1
Rejection Reason: Action Not Allowed.
Link: https://vgcollect.com/item/97614 (https://vgcollect.com/item/97614)
There are two versions of this game, the black ESRB logo version (https://vgcollect.com/item/97614), and the white ESRB logo version (https://vgcollect.com/item/5274). The white logo version has the item number DMG-APEE-USA. The black logo version has the item number DMG-APEE-USA-1, which can be seen in the cartridge photo.

EDIT: I've just submitted the cartridge IDs into the Description fields. From what I can see, it seems the item ID is incorrect based on the current standard of prioritising the ID on the box instead of the media. However, I don't have the physical box to verify the item number for each revision.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on July 13, 2020, 10:07:22 am
duplicate entries

https://vgcollect.com/item/104586

https://vgcollect.com/item/134421

Non existant games in NA
https://vgcollect.com/item/1737 (never released)

Dupe thread is here:
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10556.0/topicseen.html
The two things you put as dupes are two different titles.
PMed a person who has the Serious Sam game in collection to see what they have to say.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: grandta13 on July 14, 2020, 12:12:34 am
My recent submissions of my transcriptions of the box text for the following games were rejected with the reason 'Incorrect Formatting.'. I would like more information on the reason for these rejections and how I can properly contribute transcriptions in the future. I've been submitting box text transcriptions as I've been adding games to my collection, and this is the first batch to see any rejections.

Namco Museum 50th Anniversary - Greatest Hits (https://vgcollect.com/item/16130 (https://vgcollect.com/item/16130))
Monopoly (https://vgcollect.com/item/18608 (https://vgcollect.com/item/18608))
LEGO Star Wars II: The Original Trilogy - Greatest Hits (https://vgcollect.com/item/32407 (https://vgcollect.com/item/32407))
Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock (Not for Resale) (https://vgcollect.com/item/156529 (https://vgcollect.com/item/156529))
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on July 14, 2020, 09:24:08 am
If you put trade symbols into box text, you can see an "incorrect formatting" reject.
Also be aware that we can't see trade symbols (it shows a question mark) in the edit queue, so if we look at the text trying to be added and it looks like a trade symbol is present, we will do the reject.

The Namco Museum one I think I saw, had trade symbols after every name in the game list from the back cover.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on July 14, 2020, 10:00:44 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/182496 - there are several games that were made with [LAT] in the name. Should it be changed to [MX]?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: psxlegacy on July 14, 2020, 10:29:56 am
I see tripredacus has corrected my entries that said (LATAM) to (LAT), which reflects the latin america region. I will be putting LAT for future entries in brackets. LAT, is more accurate the MX for Mexico, as the LAT region entries included many other Spanish speaking countries besides just mexico, throughout central america.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on July 14, 2020, 11:02:17 am
[LAT] not (LAT)
make sure to use the brackets

Don't put [LAT] on games just to be lazy, if they are not actually general Latin America releases. In general, you should refrain from adding an entry if you do not know the correct information. There may well be a [MX] version and a [LAT] version, or that actual [LAT] versions do not exist but there is just one general "cover artwork" and each country had their own labelling. In that case, there should not be a [LAT] entry if it can be helped.

It seems not to be the case with Gran Turismo 6. It has the same release in both Mexico and Argentina... however I could not find a picture of a sealed copy.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: psxlegacy on July 14, 2020, 11:19:02 pm
I have researched this area quite thoroughly and been looking at comparable titles between latin coutries. I can most reliably say when I have been placing [LAT] is it because multiple countries have had the same covers and I haven't seen different indicators on the cases, as variant examples of the same game. It is possible that other examples exist, but if that is the case, then stock for those items has been gone for many years. There is always some small element of uncertainty, because I was not looking at those other markets when the games originally released. However, with larger series such as Gran Turismo, we can reliably accept that large enough prints of certain games exist, and if one country still has a large amount left, then if another country were to have produced the game, some would likely also be left. There is some educated guessing involved as I can never say anything with absolute certainty. When making deductions like this, I continue to seek evidence to the contrary, and would update any listings if I found out otherwise.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: grandta13 on July 15, 2020, 01:03:04 am
If you put trade symbols into box text, you can see an "incorrect formatting" reject.
Also be aware that we can't see trade symbols (it shows a question mark) in the edit queue, so if we look at the text trying to be added and it looks like a trade symbol is present, we will do the reject.

The Namco Museum one I think I saw, had trade symbols after every name in the game list from the back cover.

To be clear, does this apply to the characters ®, ™, and ℠? I previously submitted some approved edits with some of those characters; should those entries be edited to remove the offending characters? Also, should those characters be omitted, or be transcribed in an ASCII-compatible manner (e.g. (R) (TM) (SM) )? Are there any other forbidden characters that I should avoid transcribing in the future?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on July 15, 2020, 10:02:32 am
Regarding [LAT] (and to be certain, psxlegacy posts [LAT] on the forum but still keeps putting (LAT) on items incorrectly), it should not be used as a guess. We do not want guesses in the database. It would be preferable to use actual country TLDs instead of a generic one. So with the Gran Turismo 6 option, [AR][MX] would be preferred over [LAT], or just [MX].

Trade symbols should not be put into box text unless there is a reason to do so. The only reason we currently have is to document variations, which is where the ℠ comes from, which is found in Sega Master System game variations.

Never use (R) in place of ® if you need to document this symbol in box text.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: theodw on July 15, 2020, 10:12:17 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/68823

Based on the Advanced style guide (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10837.msg177804.html#msg177804), pictures with the Obi + stickers take priority, so I submitted them, but they were rejected due to "Incorrect Box Art". Should they be resubmitted?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: theodw on July 15, 2020, 10:16:30 am
Regarding [LAT] (and to be certain, psxlegacy posts [LAT] on the forum but still keeps putting (LAT) on items incorrectly), it should not be used as a guess. We do not want guesses in the database. It would be preferable to use actual country TLDs instead of a generic one. So with the Gran Turismo 6 option, [AR][MX] would be preferred over [LAT], or just [MX].

Also, regarding this: We had this argument before, and all entries I submitted as [LAT] a few months ago were forced to be changed to [MX], assuming that all of Latin America was Mexico, even when the distribution text indicates all the countries where the product was available (see description on https://vgcollect.com/item/165225 and https://vgcollect.com/item/163233 for more details). Shouldn't we have a perfectly clear rule on the style guide itself?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on July 15, 2020, 12:04:43 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/68823

Based on the Advanced style guide (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10837.msg177804.html#msg177804), pictures with the Obi + stickers take priority, so I submitted them, but they were rejected due to "Incorrect Box Art". Should they be resubmitted?

Right, so I think i went through this one specifically. The reason it was rejected was not because it had obi strip, but it is the wrong version. From what I recall, the release with the blue labels are the regular edition and not the LE
https://vgcollect.com/search/advanced/54/%22phantasy%20star%22/no-filter/ALL/ALL/ALL/ALL/ALL/no-filter/no-filter/no-filter
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on July 15, 2020, 12:18:08 pm
It comes down to us having had put [LAT] in the old TLD thread list at some point, so it is valid for us to use. But that being said, we shouldn't be using [LAT] if we don't have to. We should be using TLDs of confirmed countries where that specific version was sold, like we do for EU releases. What we don't want is a "guess" that the specific product is available in all Latin American countries without being able to confirm it. Because if any one of those countries actually has a release that uses an import label, then using [LAT] would become incorrect.

And just because a game case says that a game is able to be sold in a bunch of countries doesn't mean it actually is. As examples in the new guide where EU games with USK ratings aren't always sold in Germany or EU games with red Attention text isn't always sold in France. It is just that it is possible for them to be sold, at least as far as the official distribution or publisher is concerned. Or the example where NA releases with Frence/English/Spanish are sold in Latin America/Mexico but not in Canada. So basically we can't actually trust the box art completely.

Typically you can get confirmation of release countries by looking on those country's specific online classified sites, such as mercadolivre. You look for volume of a specific version vs others, as obviously we have a worldwide economy, versions from other regions can be bought and sold anywhere. But if a specific version appears more often than others, and that version is actually apparent to be released there, it is likely that it was sold there at retail. So using the GT6 example, we can make a safe bet that version was sold in Mexico and Argentina, but I did not go about and try to verify if it was sold in every country that the text on the case said it could be sold in.

So it comes down to how much work you want to put in. If you really want to dig through hours or research to confirm the info to verify all the appropriate TLDs or if [LAT] is appropriate, you can do it. But you aren't required. If you want to just confirm one or two, that's fine. Use [MX] or [AR][MX] or if you don't want to confirm any of it, maybe the item number is different on those versions and you can put that in as a descriptor instead. And then someone else can go about and do that research if they are so inclined.

In any case, we can use the description to note what the text says.

Regarding [LAT] (and to be certain, psxlegacy posts [LAT] on the forum but still keeps putting (LAT) on items incorrectly), it should not be used as a guess. We do not want guesses in the database. It would be preferable to use actual country TLDs instead of a generic one. So with the Gran Turismo 6 option, [AR][MX] would be preferred over [LAT], or just [MX].

Also, regarding this: We had this argument before, and all entries I submitted as [LAT] a few months ago were forced to be changed to [MX], assuming that all of Latin America was Mexico, even when the distribution text indicates all the countries where the product was available (see description on https://vgcollect.com/item/165225 and https://vgcollect.com/item/163233 for more details). Shouldn't we have a perfectly clear rule on the style guide itself?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on July 15, 2020, 12:23:24 pm
Or how about this. How many games are we talking about that have this issue? How many platforms are there?
Is it just PS3 and PS4?
Is it more than 25 games per platform that have these [LAT] releases?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: theodw on July 15, 2020, 12:28:02 pm
Right, so I think i went through this one specifically. The reason it was rejected was not because it had obi strip, but it is the wrong version. From what I recall, the release with the blue labels are the regular edition and not the LE
https://vgcollect.com/search/advanced/54/%22phantasy%20star%22/no-filter/ALL/ALL/ALL/ALL/ALL/no-filter/no-filter/no-filter

The "Limited edition" was cancelled before release (https://www.gamespot.com/articles/phantasy-star-online-limited-edition-cancelled/1100-2646152/). The blue label says "PSO Network Usage Fee - 30 Days Free (See back for details)" and "Early Bonus - Sonic Adventure 2 Trial Version included".
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: theodw on July 15, 2020, 12:37:56 pm
Or how about this. How many games are we talking about that have this issue? How many platforms are there?
Is it just PS3 and PS4?
Is it more than 25 games per platform that have these [LAT] releases?

Right now, from what I have here, is basically PS3 and PS4, all of them with box text in Spanish, ESRB ratings, a "latam" URI in the web address box (this can vary depending of publisher), and most important, a legal text indicating that is distributed in "Mexico, Central and South America", "The Americas", or a laundry list of Latin American countries (some newer games exclude Venezuela due to the US embargo). These are different from Brazilian releases (ESRB and/or ClassInd rating, text in Portuguese)

Nintendo games for Latin America (I have only one, but I've seen it for localised releases for Pokemon back in the day) end up with a -LTN (Also come with packaging in Spanish and ESRB rating).
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on July 15, 2020, 12:46:34 pm
Ok I have merged the two entries as a dupe. Remaining this:
https://vgcollect.com/item/68823
I changed the title.
You can upload the art to this entry.

I was unable to confirm that HDR-0142 existed. If we find out it exists later, it can be recreated.

Right, so I think i went through this one specifically. The reason it was rejected was not because it had obi strip, but it is the wrong version. From what I recall, the release with the blue labels are the regular edition and not the LE
https://vgcollect.com/search/advanced/54/%22phantasy%20star%22/no-filter/ALL/ALL/ALL/ALL/ALL/no-filter/no-filter/no-filter

The "Limited edition" was cancelled before release (https://www.gamespot.com/articles/phantasy-star-online-limited-edition-cancelled/1100-2646152/). The blue label says "PSO Network Usage Fee - 30 Days Free (See back for details)" and "Early Bonus - Sonic Adventure 2 Trial Version included".
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: theodw on July 15, 2020, 12:52:40 pm
Ok I have merged the two entries as a dupe. Remaining this:
https://vgcollect.com/item/68823
I changed the title.
You can upload the art to this entry.

I was unable to confirm that HDR-0142 existed. If we find out it exists later, it can be recreated.

Seems that the one with the SA2 demo should be called a "First print" or something like that (https://www.gamespot.com/articles/pso-includes-sonic-2-demo/1100-2642227/)

And it seems that HDR-0142 is a reprint (https://segaretro.org/Phantasy_Star_Online)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: psxlegacy on July 16, 2020, 01:16:35 am
This title is in portugese and was release brazil region with separate rating system. Listing does not reflect this,

https://vgcollect.com/item/104082

I think this original listing for Revenge of The Bird King on PS4 should be altered to show just the cover the "Title only" on the cover, as there are two variants and I created a separate entry for the one with the "Bird Battle Scene".

https://vgcollect.com/item/169328

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: psxlegacy on July 16, 2020, 02:52:13 am
This listing picture is inaccurate and a duplicate,

Horizon Chase Turbo - Special Edition
https://vgcollect.com/item/165242 (incorrect box shot, does not exist)

The correct entry exists here,

Horizon Chase Turbo - Special Edition
https://vgcollect.com/item/166733

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: psxlegacy on July 16, 2020, 05:43:44 am
This listing does not belong in PS3 (NA)

https://vgcollect.com/item/96645
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: psxlegacy on July 16, 2020, 06:01:31 am
This game only came out on PSP in physical format, not PS3

TNT Racers

https://vgcollect.com/item/121443

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on July 16, 2020, 10:14:12 am
Would not be called "First Print" unless that text exists on the item.
I know it is mentioned as existing on various sites, including Sega Retro, but it was never confirmed. Evidenced by the fact that the pic on the entry in the DB was for the other version. No listings of it on Ebay, RFGeneration or YAJ, no pictures on various image searches.

Ok I have merged the two entries as a dupe. Remaining this:
https://vgcollect.com/item/68823
I changed the title.
You can upload the art to this entry.

I was unable to confirm that HDR-0142 existed. If we find out it exists later, it can be recreated.

Seems that the one with the SA2 demo should be called a "First print" or something like that (https://www.gamespot.com/articles/pso-includes-sonic-2-demo/1100-2642227/)

And it seems that HDR-0142 is a reprint (https://segaretro.org/Phantasy_Star_Online)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on July 16, 2020, 10:21:45 am
This listing does not belong in PS3 (NA)

https://vgcollect.com/item/96645

Submit edit to change category.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: psxlegacy on July 17, 2020, 05:38:43 am
Does not exist as an official release on PS1,

https://vgcollect.com/item/6196

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Cartagia on July 18, 2020, 09:27:28 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/182687

Blank entry.
 (https://vgcollect.com/images/gallery/1/18947/2_ezgif-1-1a13ac093785.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: price5474 on July 19, 2020, 10:35:07 pm
Those Who Remain: https://vgcollect.com/item/182656

I think this is supposed to be set as PS4 [NA] and not PC.  There may be a PC version but the cover art and UPC number are for the PlayStation release, so I think they may have just selected the wrong system by accident.

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: psxlegacy on July 20, 2020, 03:37:34 am
Skylanders Giants on PS3 [NA] has two entries

https://vgcollect.com/item/91696

https://vgcollect.com/item/175519

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)

Note, when correcting and making a single entry, not forget to add "Not for Resale" in the title.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: psxlegacy on July 20, 2020, 05:36:38 am
This entry for Little Big Planet Game of the Year on PS3 [NA] appears twice,

https://vgcollect.com/item/125989

https://vgcollect.com/item/13312

can you merge the data into one. Thanks
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Cartagia on July 20, 2020, 07:23:59 am
This entry for Little Big Planet Game of the Year on PS3 [NA] appears twice,

https://vgcollect.com/item/125989

https://vgcollect.com/item/13312

can you merge the data into one. Thanks

Dude, there's a thread for duplicates and a thread for errors.  This is the thread for errors.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on July 20, 2020, 09:21:17 am
Note, when correcting and making a single entry, not forget to add "Not for Resale" in the title.

Descriptors are only as required. If an item was only released as an NFR, it does not need the NFR descriptor.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on July 20, 2020, 09:22:38 am
This entry for Little Big Planet Game of the Year on PS3 [NA] appears twice,

https://vgcollect.com/item/125989

https://vgcollect.com/item/13312

can you merge the data into one. Thanks

As previously pointed out to you, this is not a dupe. Stop requesting that it be treated as such.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: psxlegacy on July 20, 2020, 07:01:33 pm
This game only exists in Longbox and already has a listing, this jewel case listing for PS1 [NA] is fake,

https://vgcollect.com/item/6402

The real listing is here,

https://vgcollect.com/item/61299

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: psxlegacy on July 20, 2020, 07:30:17 pm
There are two version of Hitman HD Trilogy on PS3 [NA]. The Picture for the Premium has been incorrectly placed on the standard entry, and the standard cover art is different.

Standard

https://vgcollect.com/item/40416

Premium (comes with a slipcover and artbook)

https://vgcollect.com/item/172017
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: aliensstudios on July 20, 2020, 10:14:00 pm
There are two version of Hitman HD Trilogy on PS3 [NA]. The Picture for the Premium has been incorrectly placed on the standard entry, and the standard cover art is different.

Standard

https://vgcollect.com/item/40416

Premium (comes with a slipcover and artbook)

https://vgcollect.com/item/172017
Editing entries is a thing.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: pzeke on July 21, 2020, 05:12:47 pm
Empty.

https://vgcollect.com/item/182814
(https://vgcollect.com/images/gallery/1/18947/2_ezgif-1-1a13ac093785.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: salaxalans on July 21, 2020, 08:42:41 pm
A few edits I made were rejected, specifically to the Reserve Editions released by Special Reserve Games. I changed the names of them all to "[name of game] - Reserve Edition" so that it would be uniform. The rejection reason was that the formatting was incorrect but as far as I can tell from reading the style guide that's the way they should be named. Am I missing something?

These are the relevant games: Minit (https://vgcollect.com/item/167498), The Messenger (https://vgcollect.com/item/159567), Hotline Miami Collection (https://vgcollect.com/item/178475), GRIS (https://vgcollect.com/item/160568), Enter the Gungeon (https://vgcollect.com/item/169283), Downwell (https://vgcollect.com/item/169777), and My Friend Pedro (https://vgcollect.com/item/182664)

Unrelated to the above, I also tried to change the name of LotRO: Mithril Edition (https://vgcollect.com/item/151729) to "Lord of the Rings Online, The: Mithril Edition" but this was rejected. The current name puts "Online" after the colon when the base game is called "The Lord of the Rings Online" and the package is called "Mithril Edition".

Thanks!
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on July 22, 2020, 09:26:32 am
A few edits I made were rejected, specifically to the Reserve Editions released by Special Reserve Games. I changed the names of them all to "[name of game] - Reserve Edition" so that it would be uniform. The rejection reason was that the formatting was incorrect but as far as I can tell from reading the style guide that's the way they should be named. Am I missing something?

These are the relevant games: Minit (https://vgcollect.com/item/167498), The Messenger (https://vgcollect.com/item/159567), Hotline Miami Collection (https://vgcollect.com/item/178475), GRIS (https://vgcollect.com/item/160568), Enter the Gungeon (https://vgcollect.com/item/169283), Downwell (https://vgcollect.com/item/169777), and My Friend Pedro (https://vgcollect.com/item/182664)

Unrelated to the above, I also tried to change the name of LotRO: Mithril Edition (https://vgcollect.com/item/151729) to "Lord of the Rings Online, The: Mithril Edition" but this was rejected. The current name puts "Online" after the colon when the base game is called "The Lord of the Rings Online" and the package is called "Mithril Edition".

Thanks!

For the Special Reserve games, if "Reserve Edition" isn't printed on the packaging, it cannot be put into item title and only into description. I looked at a couple of those examples and didn't see this wording present. Maybe I missed it, if you can point out where this term is present, we can change the names.

LOTR: Edition formatting requires hyphen.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: salaxalans on July 23, 2020, 01:45:13 am
A few edits I made were rejected, specifically to the Reserve Editions released by Special Reserve Games. I changed the names of them all to "[name of game] - Reserve Edition" so that it would be uniform. The rejection reason was that the formatting was incorrect but as far as I can tell from reading the style guide that's the way they should be named. Am I missing something?

These are the relevant games: Minit (https://vgcollect.com/item/167498), The Messenger (https://vgcollect.com/item/159567), Hotline Miami Collection (https://vgcollect.com/item/178475), GRIS (https://vgcollect.com/item/160568), Enter the Gungeon (https://vgcollect.com/item/169283), Downwell (https://vgcollect.com/item/169777), and My Friend Pedro (https://vgcollect.com/item/182664)

Unrelated to the above, I also tried to change the name of LotRO: Mithril Edition (https://vgcollect.com/item/151729) to "Lord of the Rings Online, The: Mithril Edition" but this was rejected. The current name puts "Online" after the colon when the base game is called "The Lord of the Rings Online" and the package is called "Mithril Edition".

Thanks!

For the Special Reserve games, if "Reserve Edition" isn't printed on the packaging, it cannot be put into item title and only into description. I looked at a couple of those examples and didn't see this wording present. Maybe I missed it, if you can point out where this term is present, we can change the names.

LOTR: Edition formatting requires hyphen.

For the SRG titles, the packaging just has the name of the game, I was getting "Reserve Edition" from the website product pages. So all of the releases should just be the name of the game? I'll submit edits to reflect that then, as many of them have assorted things tacked onto the end.

For LotRO, I don't understand, where does the hyphen go? The style guide says "Expansion packs: The title of expansion packs should follow the main title and be separated by a colon." The main title is "The Lord of the Rings Online" and the expansion pack is "Mithril Edition" so shouldn't it be "Lord of the Rings Online, The: Mithril Edition"? If you're saying that the title of the base game is "The Lord of the Rings: Online", it isn't, there's no colon on any packaging or online materials, it is always referred to as "The Lord of the Rings Online". See their website (https://www.lotro.com/en/), the Steam page (https://store.steampowered.com/app/212500/The_Lord_of_the_Rings_Online/), and the Wikipedia article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings_Online).

Also, my edit to My Friend Pedro (https://vgcollect.com/item/182664) to add a rating of ESRB - M was rejected for being incorrect, but I am holding the game and it says ESRB - M on it so I'm not sure how this could be incorrect.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Cartagia on July 23, 2020, 05:30:13 am
LotR is an edition of the game that comes with an expansion, so it should be "Lord of the Rings Online, The - Mithril Edition".  The colon is for a named expansion, not just if it includes one.  You'll see the same thing with Goty editions that include expansions.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on July 23, 2020, 10:15:36 am
1. For the SRG titles, the packaging just has the name of the game, I was getting "Reserve Edition" from the website product pages. So all of the releases should just be the name of the game? I'll submit edits to reflect that then, as many of them have assorted things tacked onto the end.

2. Also, my edit to My Friend Pedro (https://vgcollect.com/item/182664) to add a rating of ESRB - M was rejected for being incorrect, but I am holding the game and it says ESRB - M on it so I'm not sure how this could be incorrect.

1. Item names should be reflective of the actual item. We cannot require people to know what an item is called on some website in order to identify what they have. This might not make sense currently for those items, but when thinking in general, if you were to buy an item from a store, get something in a trade or buy at garage sale, etc, you would have no idea that an item might have been sold on a website under a specific name at some point in the past. So, our titles should be done in a way that you can tell by holding the item in hand, which entry is correct.

For names, yes/no. Names should be unique per category, so if there are multiple releases a descriptor is required. Currently there are 3 entries for My Friend Pedro in Switch [NA] and they have no descriptors. Descriptors need to be added to each to clarify them.

2. For the rating on the linked entry, I verified on Ebay that the game does NOT have a rating on the packaging. There is a rating on the game case inside of the box, and that can be put into description. The entry for that boxed version should not have a rating on the entry.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: mdoerty on July 23, 2020, 11:11:59 am
Can anyone tell me why Pitfall II is called "David Crane's Pittfall II: Lost Caverns"?

The box says lists the name -- but the common name is just Pitfall II. (It may be listed with or without the subtitle.)





Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on July 23, 2020, 11:26:14 am
Name wasn't adjusted to meet the common name ruling.
For the C64 US release, the title should be Pitfall II: Lost Caverns and the full title can be put into alt-name.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: salaxalans on July 23, 2020, 01:44:24 pm
LotR is an edition of the game that comes with an expansion, so it should be "Lord of the Rings Online, The - Mithril Edition".  The colon is for a named expansion, not just if it includes one.  You'll see the same thing with Goty editions that include expansions.

I see, thank you!

1. Item names should be reflective of the actual item. We cannot require people to know what an item is called on some website in order to identify what they have. This might not make sense currently for those items, but when thinking in general, if you were to buy an item from a store, get something in a trade or buy at garage sale, etc, you would have no idea that an item might have been sold on a website under a specific name at some point in the past. So, our titles should be done in a way that you can tell by holding the item in hand, which entry is correct.

For names, yes/no. Names should be unique per category, so if there are multiple releases a descriptor is required. Currently there are 3 entries for My Friend Pedro in Switch [NA] and they have no descriptors. Descriptors need to be added to each to clarify them.

2. For the rating on the linked entry, I verified on Ebay that the game does NOT have a rating on the packaging. There is a rating on the game case inside of the box, and that can be put into description. The entry for that boxed version should not have a rating on the entry.

Alright, I think I understand. If they need to have a descriptor though, why not just use "Reserve Edition" to make it uniform?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on July 24, 2020, 10:38:43 am
Alright, I think I understand. If they need to have a descriptor though, why not just use "Reserve Edition" to make it uniform?

Already stated as to why.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: salaxalans on July 24, 2020, 11:27:01 pm

Already stated as to why.

What I mean is, if there has to be a descriptor, why not use the one that is commonly used for the release, even if it's not on the packaging? Some of these say "Special Reserve Edition" or "Collector's Edition" in the title, and one just said "(black cover)". It seems to me that, seeing as these all go together as being the same type of release by the same publisher, that if they need a descriptor they might as well all use the same one, so which would be most appropriate?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on July 27, 2020, 10:26:45 am
The descriptor is a physical thing, not an in general thing. If a descriptor is needed, something relating to the physical item, either the box or the media, can be used.

Edition names work the same way. If the physical item (ie the box) has an edition name, it can be in the title. If it doesn't, then it can't be in the title. It can be put into description instead.

The data should be presented in such a way that the user is not required to know everything about the item. A user should be able to look at the item they have in hand and be able to tell which item to add to their collection without additional research. Using a descriptor or Edition name that is not physically present on the item does not help towards this goal. If they click into the entry, the description can provide additional details, and then the "trivia" portion that the item was sold online using a specific marketing term.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: cirdan77 on July 28, 2020, 06:43:45 am
Hi,
This game Forza Motorsport 3 (Bundle Copy) [DK][FI][NO][SE] (https://vgcollect.com/item/155937)

...is clearly erroneously listed under the wrong platform: "PlayStation 3 [EU]"

Could someone move it to the correct platform?:  "Xbox 360 [EU]"
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on July 28, 2020, 09:33:21 am
You can change the platform yourself. There should be no reason why this would be rejected as it is clearly in the wrong category.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: cirdan77 on July 28, 2020, 11:24:00 am
"You can change the platform yourself. There should be no reason why this would be rejected as it is clearly in the wrong category."

MY BAD.
Because when you create a DB entry the platform is locked from modification during editing -- I assumed the same must be true when trying to modify an entry.
Sorry to hassle. :)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: iamstarwars on July 29, 2020, 04:20:52 am
I've tried to submit NBA 2K6 for XBOX EU and it just appears as a blank entry? Any help would be appreciated. Cheers
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: kevininja on July 29, 2020, 05:25:45 am
I've tried to submit NBA 2K6 for XBOX EU and it just appears as a blank entry? Any help would be appreciated. Cheers

I think that happens if you take too long uploading an entry. Might be wrong on that though.

Here's the database entry btw:
https://vgcollect.com/item/183321
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: iamstarwars on July 29, 2020, 06:27:24 am
I've tried to submit NBA 2K6 for XBOX EU and it just appears as a blank entry? Any help would be appreciated. Cheers

I think that happens if you take too long uploading an entry. Might be wrong on that though.

Here's the database entry btw:
https://vgcollect.com/item/183321

Thanks mate, I've edited some details on that entry now. Hopefully it'll work when it's reviewed.

Edir: Sadly it didn't work, I tried creating an entry for NHL 2K7 (XBOX EU) and the same thing happened. I added other titles today without trouble ???
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on July 29, 2020, 12:02:43 pm
Blank entry was removed. All edits to blank entries get rejected because the entry cannot be verified. Whether a blank exists or doesn't, it appears the same to us. It shows as an edit to an entry that doesn't exist.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: iamstarwars on July 29, 2020, 12:05:53 pm
Blank entry was removed. All edits to blank entries get rejected because the entry cannot be verified. Whether a blank exists or doesn't, it appears the same to us. It shows as an edit to an entry that doesn't exist.
Thanks mate, any reason why these two NBA 2K6 and NHL 2K7 appear as blank?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on July 29, 2020, 12:17:29 pm
Blank entry was removed. All edits to blank entries get rejected because the entry cannot be verified. Whether a blank exists or doesn't, it appears the same to us. It shows as an edit to an entry that doesn't exist.
Thanks mate, any reason why these two NBA 2K6 and NHL 2K7 appear as blank?

If at the time you created them, and you put images onto the entry. If the images are too large, a timeout occurs and can cause it. Max image size should be 300 KB if you are having this issue.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: iamstarwars on July 29, 2020, 12:20:40 pm
Blank entry was removed. All edits to blank entries get rejected because the entry cannot be verified. Whether a blank exists or doesn't, it appears the same to us. It shows as an edit to an entry that doesn't exist.
Thanks mate, any reason why these two NBA 2K6 and NHL 2K7 appear as blank?

If at the time you created them, and you put images onto the entry. If the images are too large, a timeout occurs and can cause it. Max image size should be 300 KB if you are having this issue.

Thank you kindly sir! It's definitely the images that are causing the issue.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Cartagia on August 01, 2020, 06:47:57 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/183472

Blank entry.
(https://vgcollect.com/images/gallery/1/18947/2_ezgif-1-1a13ac093785.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: bobi on August 04, 2020, 09:38:46 am
Hey,

The front and back box arts of the Nintendo GameCube component cable are obviously not genuine: https://vgcollect.com/item/111702
For the most obvious part: I highly doubt Nintendo ever realased anything packaged in a transparent plastic bag labeled “Genuine Nintendo spare part.”

Yet, when I point this out and try to edit the item with scans of my own copy, I get rejected for “Incorrect information” for the front box art, “Incorrect box art” for the back one.
My scans are allegedly less 200px wide, in jpg format, and the largest in 840kB, way less than the 2MB limit; here they are:

(https://i.imgur.com/U9YeFXEm.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/U9YeFXE.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/sloa49hm.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/sloa49h.jpg)

I understand these scans aren’t the best one could get, but my copy is not in really great shape and, at least for the back box art, you will hardly find any other one online.

May I actually know why this gets rejected in favor of an obvious unofficial package, so that I can get it accepted?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on August 04, 2020, 09:53:36 am
It exists. Item conversion is not allowed.

The entry for the item you have there (apparently) does not exist in the db, you can create it as Nintendo Component Video Cable.

ref
コンポーネントビデオケーブル
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/p784876144
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: bobi on August 04, 2020, 10:31:46 am
Really?

My bad then, I always assumed this was the japanese stuff unofficially repackaged by US resellers to get rid of the japanese branding.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on August 04, 2020, 12:28:38 pm
Well it could be legit, it could be a boot. I can't say, I don't own the item. But it does exist and importantly, it has its own packaging.

We allow entries for boots, so there is no problem with this one even if it was repackaged.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: nathan776 on August 08, 2020, 09:20:47 am
Crysis ( https://vgcollect.com/item/64875 )
I dont think a physical version for this game exists for the 360 so I thought it'd be covered by Crysis (https://vgcollect.com/item/62622)
Not really sure if to call it a dupe or error listing.

(https://vgcollect.com/images/gallery/1/18947/2_ezgif-1-1a13ac093785.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: psxlegacy on August 12, 2020, 08:25:14 pm
This game does not belong in the [CAD] as it was an asian region, as indicated by lack of esrb and PLAS number. I will try to make the edit.
https://vgcollect.com/item/130994
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: psxlegacy on August 12, 2020, 08:27:00 pm
Don't see [AS] or ASIA as an option under PS4, not sure how to fix this entry...
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on August 12, 2020, 10:44:25 pm
This game does not belong in the [CAD] as it was an asian region, as indicated by lack of esrb and PLAS number. I will try to make the edit.
https://vgcollect.com/item/130994

CN stands for China, which is where this game was released, so the entry is correct.

We don't use AS because there's an actual TLD for AS (I think it's American Samoa?)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: pzeke on August 13, 2020, 05:58:52 pm
Empty.

https://vgcollect.com/item/184346
https://vgcollect.com/item/184347


(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: sharanden on August 14, 2020, 12:03:54 pm
I believe the release info and "free on epic games store" text in the description of these items should be removed/edited:
https://vgcollect.com/item/83099
https://vgcollect.com/item/178837
https://vgcollect.com/item/48652


In the case of GTAV it is only the Premium Edition (https://vgcollect.com/item/178860) that was released on Epic Games Store, the regular edition and Premium Online Edition were released elsewhere (probably as retail digital versions).

As for Batman, only the Game of the Year edition (https://vgcollect.com/item/184388) was released on Epic Games Store.

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on August 14, 2020, 12:14:39 pm
Fixed description on 83099 and 48652.
Premium Online Edition is the Steam version, Mobygames puts the Epic "Premium Edition" as the same thing. Merged as dupe.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: sharanden on August 14, 2020, 12:42:17 pm
I was also wondering about the rejected cover art edits for some digital pc releases. If you just want to leave them as is then that's fine as well, but figured I would ask about it anyway.

For example, Airborne Kingdom has a new cover now:
https://vgcollect.com/item/170383
https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/browse?q=Airborne%20Kingdom&sortBy=relevance&sortDir=DESC&pageSize=30

And the art used for Batman: Arkham Asylum - Game of the Year Edition is actually the Steam version. The one I submitted is used on the Epic Games Store:
https://vgcollect.com/item/42649
https://store.steampowered.com/app/35140/Batman_Arkham_Asylum_Game_of_the_Year_Edition/
https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/browse?q=Batman%3A%20Arkham%20Asylum%20-%20Game%20of%20the%20Year%20Edition&sortBy=relevance&sortDir=DESC&pageSize=30

An issue with generic digital pc entries is that you could use virtually any image because it's not as specified as the Steam or GOG category.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: psxlegacy on August 14, 2020, 03:18:23 pm
when trying to add pictures for this game I accidentally added more than one listing and can't seem to delete the dups.

Saban's Power Rangers: Battle for the Grid Mega Edition

OG (Has the front and back cover in the pics):
https://vgcollect.com/item/184430

Dups:

https://vgcollect.com/item/184429

https://vgcollect.com/item/184427


(https://vgcollect.com/images/gallery/1/18947/2_ezgif-1-1a13ac093785.gif)


Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: scraph4ppy on August 16, 2020, 04:42:11 pm
Does someone want to delete the Australian NES listing of Secret of Mana?

https://vgcollect.com/item/164235
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on August 17, 2020, 09:52:53 am
Since PC Digital Download is a catch-all category, any art from any source can be the box art. And since a game may have multiple different arts from the various sources, we aren't going to bother with changing arts if a valid picture is already present.

I was also wondering about the rejected cover art edits for some digital pc releases. If you just want to leave them as is then that's fine as well, but figured I would ask about it anyway.

For example, Airborne Kingdom has a new cover now:
https://vgcollect.com/item/170383
https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/browse?q=Airborne%20Kingdom&sortBy=relevance&sortDir=DESC&pageSize=30

And the art used for Batman: Arkham Asylum - Game of the Year Edition is actually the Steam version. The one I submitted is used on the Epic Games Store:
https://vgcollect.com/item/42649
https://store.steampowered.com/app/35140/Batman_Arkham_Asylum_Game_of_the_Year_Edition/
https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/browse?q=Batman%3A%20Arkham%20Asylum%20-%20Game%20of%20the%20Year%20Edition&sortBy=relevance&sortDir=DESC&pageSize=30

An issue with generic digital pc entries is that you could use virtually any image because it's not as specified as the Steam or GOG category.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: jeffmandm on August 17, 2020, 11:15:20 am
I was trying to get the Korean version of MeiQ for Vita (physical) put up, and I didn't realize the place I got the cover from was renascene, which ended up putting an incorrect image. I'm a little embarrassed considering they log Scene releases. I'll try not to let this happen again. :/

https://vgcollect.com/item/184704

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Faalagorn on August 19, 2020, 12:01:34 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/41929

Barcode is wrong, it should be 3307210124470 instead of 3307213124470, someone probably misread it as the check digit for 330721312447 would be 7 making it 3307213124477 while for 330721012447 it is correct. This can be verified on https://www.gs1.org/services/check-digit-calculator Also, Google search results for https://www.google.com/search?q=3307213124470 return VGCollect as the only entry while https://www.google.pl/search?q=3307210124470 finds the correct game.

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on August 20, 2020, 10:54:29 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/41929

Barcode is wrong, it should be 3307210124470 instead of 3307213124470, someone probably misread it as the check digit for 330721312447 would be 7 making it 3307213124477 while for 330721012447 it is correct. This can be verified on https://www.gs1.org/services/check-digit-calculator

Using the calculator isn't required. Photos of the actual item confirm the correct barcode.
Also, we input the barcode as it appears on an item, even if the barcode is incorrectly printed. So in those instances, using the math may not be helpful.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: kevininja on August 21, 2020, 04:34:34 am
Couple of blank entries:
https://vgcollect.com/item/184861
https://vgcollect.com/item/184862
https://vgcollect.com/item/184863
https://vgcollect.com/item/184864


(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: kashell on August 21, 2020, 02:56:47 pm
Hey all. I tried editing the image for the Death end re;Quest 2 Limited Edition. Not sure if I did that properly or not.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on August 21, 2020, 11:36:28 pm
A listing for Assassin's Creed III - Wii [EU] (https://vgcollect.com/item/184903) was recently created without having ever been released for Wii. This entry was created in pair with a listing for Wii U [EU], so I assume the creator intended to create an entry for the latter.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Flashback2012 on August 22, 2020, 10:56:35 am
Hey all. I tried editing the image for the Death end re;Quest 2 Limited Edition. Not sure if I did that properly or not.

Shows no image and no edit history. Tried and reloaded the page but still nothing. Could be in the queue yet though.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Faalagorn on August 22, 2020, 02:54:31 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/1208

This one is called "Smash Court Tennis: Pro Tournament 2" while for other releases it's "Smash Court Tennis Pro Tournament 2" (without a colon)
(https://vgcollect.com/images/gallery/1/18947/2_ezgif-1-1a13ac093785.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Faalagorn on August 22, 2020, 04:58:16 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/143067 and https://vgcollect.com/item/63633 are called "Play it Pinball", while https://vgcollect.com/item/55871 and https://vgcollect.com/item/125426 are simply called "Pinball. Some might be duplicate too, I own the UK one with 5060057020289 barcode but the art on VGCollect shows the PEGI version instead of ELSPA rating one so I guess https://vgcollect.com/item/143067 and https://vgcollect.com/item/63633 artworks should be swapped.
(https://vgcollect.com/images/gallery/1/18947/2_ezgif-1-1a13ac093785.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Faalagorn on August 23, 2020, 04:44:43 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/48156 – wrong barcode, should be 5030930038656
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on August 23, 2020, 12:00:55 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/48156 – wrong barcode, should be 5030930038656

Although administration approval will still be needed, users can actually manually enter changes such as these to items within the database on item pages in the top-right corner of the white box, opposite of the item entry name.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: kashell on August 23, 2020, 12:01:07 pm
Hey all. I tried editing the image for the Death end re;Quest 2 Limited Edition. Not sure if I did that properly or not.

Shows no image and no edit history. Tried and reloaded the page but still nothing. Could be in the queue yet though.
All good. It showed up.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Faalagorn on August 23, 2020, 05:06:35 pm
I added the 5060015453531 barcode to https://vgcollect.com/item/60582 by mistake thinking it's the release I have while it was https://vgcollect.com/item/168804 which already had that barcode, please reject my edit :)

P.S. Is there a way to search the barcode directly from the site? I know you can scan a barcode and search through Android app, it would make it easier for me and avoided that mistake.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Faalagorn on August 23, 2020, 06:54:57 pm
Again, please ignore my barcode edit on https://vgcollect.com/item/46565 – I accidentally confused it with https://vgcollect.com/item/142416
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: fazerco on August 24, 2020, 05:11:03 am
I added the 5060015453531 barcode to https://vgcollect.com/item/60582 by mistake thinking it's the release I have while it was https://vgcollect.com/item/168804 which already had that barcode, please reject my edit :)

P.S. Is there a way to search the barcode directly from the site? I know you can scan a barcode and search through Android app, it would make it easier for me and avoided that mistake.

Try advanced search. https://vgcollect.com/search (https://vgcollect.com/search)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Faalagorn on August 24, 2020, 02:44:56 pm
I added the 5060015453531 barcode to https://vgcollect.com/item/60582 by mistake thinking it's the release I have while it was https://vgcollect.com/item/168804 which already had that barcode, please reject my edit :)

P.S. Is there a way to search the barcode directly from the site? I know you can scan a barcode and search through Android app, it would make it easier for me and avoided that mistake.

Try advanced search. https://vgcollect.com/search (https://vgcollect.com/search)
Thanks! Though sadly, this won't let me search without inputting anything on name field and it seems to be a known issue to be fixed :)

P.S. It seems both of my barcode additions went through sadly :(
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Faalagorn on August 24, 2020, 03:37:01 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/112402 seems to have wrong barcode inputted – 8717249598153 while I have a copy and it's 8717249598152 – there are also no Google results for the first barcode and 120 for the one I have.

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: ferraroso on August 25, 2020, 01:07:23 am
I recently tried editing the following two Super Famicom games and both were reject.

Chou Genjin
https://vgcollect.com/item/42783
and
Chou-Genjin 2
https://vgcollect.com/item/36696

The character can indeed be read as chou (ちょう), however, both games of the PC Genjin (Bonk) series released for the Super Famicom are officially named in Japanese Super Genjin (超原人 - スーパーげんじん) and Super Genjin 2 (超原人 2 - スーパーげんじん 2) respectively, so I find it appropriate to edit their names to reflect the correct titles.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on August 25, 2020, 10:43:32 am
I recently tried editing the following two Super Famicom games and both were reject.

Chou Genjin
https://vgcollect.com/item/42783
and
Chou-Genjin 2
https://vgcollect.com/item/36696

The character can indeed be read as chou (ちょう), however, both games of the PC Genjin (Bonk) series released for the Super Famicom are officially named in Japanese Super Genjin (超原人 - スーパーげんじん) and Super Genjin 2 (超原人 2 - スーパーげんじん 2) respectively, so I find it appropriate to edit their names to reflect the correct titles.

Common Name rules are in effect for this release. The name you put can be put into alt-name.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: ferraroso on August 25, 2020, 08:06:16 pm
Common Name rules are in effect for this release. The name you put can be put into alt-name.

Hi Tripredacus

Thank you for your answer.
That's the point. Actually, the games' official names are Super Genjin and Super Genjin 2. Chou Genjin and Chou Genjin 2 should be the alt-names...

Once again, thank you for the reply.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on August 25, 2020, 10:46:17 pm
I recently found out that Wii Sports has two standard variants with different disc numbers, packaging numbers, and box text. I had created a new listing for the missing variant earlier this afternoon and put in much effort in transcribing the heavy amount of text for both item listings. Now, the item listing I had created has been deleted. The item listing I had originally created was here (https://vgcollect.com/item/185073). Is there any reason why Wii Sports in particular cannot have two separate listings to detail the variances between them despite the three reasons listed above that give reason for it to exist?

Here (https://www.mobygames.com/images/covers/l/207803-wii-sports-wii-other.png) is an image of the original listing's back packaging, with back item number C\RVL-RSPE-USA-2. This variant was packaged with the black Wii.

Here (https://www.mobygames.com/images/covers/l/73765-wii-sports-wii-other.jpg) is an image of what was the variant listing's back packaging, with back item number 62022A. This variant was packaged with the white Wii.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on August 26, 2020, 10:00:55 am
Common Name rules are in effect for this release. The name you put can be put into alt-name.

Hi Tripredacus

Thank you for your answer.
That's the point. Actually, the games' official names are Super Genjin and Super Genjin 2. Chou Genjin and Chou Genjin 2 should be the alt-names...

Once again, thank you for the reply.

re: https://vgcollect.com/item/42783
You can put the actual text in box text.
In description you can put the actual title like so "front title: 超原人 - スーパーげんじん" but you can't put in a translation there.
Alt-name should be 超原人 - スーパーげんじん, Super Genjin, Super Bonk
(box title, translation title, localised title)

Unfortunately, since this is so limited, I would not think it would be worth to create a common name exception, since that takes a community vote. Otherwise, if you can get GameFaqs to use the correct title, then we can use it here too.

We aren't interested in having to teach people how to read or translate foreign languages. Also it takes a burden off of site staff from having to weigh what is important for non-natives and native speakers, and having to have some sort of understanding of the language in question, translation, transliteration and romanization.

Fortunately (for native Japanese speakers) the common name rule only applies to releases that can be found on GameFAQs. Releases that are not, which then would have no point of reference, can be named in the way you are thinking.

But basically understand that when we say this about how titles should be put, we aren't saying that you are wrong. We just have to accept that the community is not that interested in correctness of titles. And the rules in the style guide are mainly to work around the site's limitations. For item names, we only have 1 thing we can put, so we have to make a rule about it. Otherwise, people would put a name in (maybe from the box, or the spine, or the title screen, or what it says on gamefaqs, or a romanization, or a translation, or a transliteration) and while it may be correct, someone would come along and change it to something else.

I recently found out that Wii Sports has two standard variants with different disc numbers, packaging numbers, and box text. I had created a new listing for the missing variant earlier this afternoon and put in much effort in transcribing the heavy amount of text for both item listings. Now, the item listing I had created has been deleted. The item listing I had originally created was here (https://vgcollect.com/item/185073). Is there any reason why Wii Sports in particular cannot have two separate listings to detail the variances between them despite the three reasons listed above that give reason for it to exist?

Here (https://www.mobygames.com/images/covers/l/207803-wii-sports-wii-other.png) is an image of the original listing's back packaging, with back item number C\RVL-RSPE-USA-2. This variant was packaged with the black Wii.

Here (https://www.mobygames.com/images/covers/l/73765-wii-sports-wii-other.jpg) is an image of what was the variant listing's back packaging, with back item number 62022A. This variant was packaged with the white Wii.


Yes, there are multiple versions of Wii Sports. In EU there are at least 4 and in the US there may be at least 2 also. I didn't see the entry, so I can't say. Another DB Admin must have done something to it.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on August 26, 2020, 11:22:42 am
My proposed edits (image, item number, barcode) to Ore no Shikabane wo Koete Yuke - PlayStation [JP] (https://vgcollect.com/item/171623) were all denied to help differentiate this entry from its PlayStation the Best variant (https://vgcollect.com/item/132188). So, now the two entries both have the same front box art image despite the standard variant having a different front cover.

Hard Edge - PlayStation [JP] has three variants. Hard Edge (https://vgcollect.com/item/87683), Hard Edge - Value 1500 (https://vgcollect.com/item/185092), and Hard Edge - Collection Best (https://vgcollect.com/item/66308). I created Hard Edge - Value 1500. The other remaining non-standard variant (https://vgcollect.com/item/66308) was already created without the differentiation in its name, so I proposed such an edit to be made. However, this was also denied. While the front box art for Value 1500 and Collection Best are the same, the obi (https://psxdatacenter.com/images/covers/J/H/SLPS-02692/SLPS-02692-F-ALL.jpg) strips (http://psxdatacenter.com/images/covers/J/H/SLPS-03270/SLPS-03270-F-ALL.jpg) help differentiate these entries from another and give reason for my proposed edit of Hard Edge - Collection Best to be approved. Am I misunderstanding why such a proposed edit shouldn't be approved? Because now, there are two (https://vgcollect.com/item/87683) entries (https://vgcollect.com/item/66308) titled Hard Edge without any differentiation in their names. If the edit for Hard Edge - Collection Best is in any way not acceptable, then an admin should also edit Hard Edge - Value 1500 (https://vgcollect.com/item/185092) to be also named simply Hard Edge. That way, three Hard Edge - PlayStation [JP] entries can exist at the same time without any name differentiation.


Yes, there are multiple versions of Wii Sports. In EU there are at least 4 and in the US there may be at least 2 also. I didn't see the entry, so I can't say. Another DB Admin must have done something to it.

If I create another entry, will it just be deleted again? I had proposed for Wii Sports (https://vgcollect.com/item/4831) to be renamed to Wii Sports (bundled with black Wii) while simultaneously creating a new entry for Wii Sports (bundled with white Wii). Should I instead propose an edit for the entry to be renamed to Wii Sports (C\RVL-RSPE-USA-2) while creating a Wii Sports (62022A) entry?

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on August 26, 2020, 11:54:28 am
My proposed edits (image, item number, barcode) to Ore no Shikabane wo Koete Yuke - PlayStation [JP] (https://vgcollect.com/item/171623) were all denied to help differentiate this entry from its PlayStation the Best variant (https://vgcollect.com/item/132188). So, now the two entries both have the same front box art image despite the standard variant having a different front cover.

Hard Edge - Collection Best (https://vgcollect.com/item/66308).

If I create another entry, will it just be deleted again? I had proposed for Wii Sports (https://vgcollect.com/item/4831) to be renamed to Wii Sports (bundled with black Wii) while simultaneously creating a new entry for Wii Sports (bundled with white Wii). Should I instead propose an edit for the entry to be renamed to Wii Sports (C\RVL-RSPE-USA-2) while creating a Wii Sports (62022A) entry?

171623 was dupe, merged with 132188
The edit was rejected because of the original intent. Conversion of the entry was disallowed.

Hard Edge is Sunsoft Best, not Collection Best. Updated title.

The Wii Sports should not have been deleted if it wasn't a dupe. As I put before, I didn't see the entry so I do not know what it looked like.
The descriptors you mention are trivia and cannot be used in the item name. Descriptors, if used, should be something you can verify by looking at the actual item. If it doesn't say "Bundled with Black Wii" on the actual item, it cannot be used as a descriptor.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on August 26, 2020, 12:31:41 pm
Sorry for all the confusion on my part—just trying to help out with what I can. I'll keep the idea of original intent in mind from now.

 I know there are multiple admins who approve edit proposals, so discussing about why a certain decision was made can be difficult. Thanks!
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: ferraroso on August 26, 2020, 08:20:48 pm
Unfortunately, since this is so limited, I would not think it would be worth to create a common name exception, since that takes a community vote. Otherwise, if you can get GameFaqs to use the correct title, then we can use it here too.

So, the games should be listed as Super Bonk and Super Bonk 2 as these are the main names used by both GameFaqs and Moby Games, right?
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/snes/588722-super-bonk
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/snes/581900-super-bonk-2
https://www.mobygames.com/game/snes/super-bonk
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on August 27, 2020, 09:53:15 am
Unfortunately, since this is so limited, I would not think it would be worth to create a common name exception, since that takes a community vote. Otherwise, if you can get GameFaqs to use the correct title, then we can use it here too.

So, the games should be listed as Super Bonk and Super Bonk 2 as these are the main names used by both GameFaqs and Moby Games, right?
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/snes/588722-super-bonk
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/snes/581900-super-bonk-2
https://www.mobygames.com/game/snes/super-bonk

For verifying release names on Gamefaqs you need to look at each individual entry in the media section, or use the Release Data option in the menu. That is how you get the names we use on the site. The lack of a connection between names to actual releases is the reason why Mobygames was put as a secondary naming source on the list. They just have an unconnected "alternate titles" list on the main game page.

So these would be the links to use instead of the main links you put (which is for the game data)
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/snes/588722-super-bonk/data
or https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/snes/588722-super-bonk/images/14298
and
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/snes/581900-super-bonk-2/data
or https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/snes/581900-super-bonk-2/images/121660

And there you can see the names connected to releases.
These names match to exact releases as depicted. If there is a variant, we will use that name also. But if there is a release not on gamefaqs but is on mobygames, you can use the name from mobygames, or necretro or elisoftware or crimson-ceremony or whatever website you're looking at. But we typically want to go 1. Gamefaqs and 2. Mobygames and 3. whatever, just because Gamefaqs connects names to releases.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: fazerco on August 29, 2020, 10:06:12 am
For mods, i changed front because it was smaller then other pictures

https://vgcollect.com/item/171207 (https://vgcollect.com/item/171207)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Faalagorn on August 29, 2020, 04:52:00 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/46047 item number for the release with a barcode is SCES-55093 (I own this disc). The SCES-55098 is for a version that's bundled with buzzers which doesn't have a barcode and should have separate entry here on VGCollect. https://psxdatacenter.com/psx2/pal_list2.html http://redump.org/discs/system/ps2/region/Eu/status/4/sort/serial/letter/b/ and https://wiki.pcsx2.net/Buzz!_Pop_Quiz lists them properly.

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Faalagorn on September 01, 2020, 04:36:31 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/47336 has the wrong barcode – it should be 3296580808922 3296580800922

example with visible barcode: https://archiwum.allegro.pl/oferta/gra-tekken-6-xbox-360-bcm-i7669950745.html

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on September 02, 2020, 10:33:12 am
My proposed edits for Angelique Special 2 (https://vgcollect.com/item/32597) were denied. Some information for this entry is wrong as it instead takes information—the item number, barcode, and media art, in particular—from its variant Angelique Special 2 - Premium Box (https://vgcollect.com/item/185427). Information for the original variant can be verified here (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Angelique-Special-2-Japan-PS1-PlayStation-1-Japanese-Version-Used-SLPS-00805-/163886227477), while information for the Premium Box can be verified here (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Angelique-Special-2-Limited-Edition-Premium-Box-Travel-Set-PS1-PlayStation-1-/254670979715?nma=true&si=hrbtv4qmz%252FGRVXLVXG%252BFB9Bqtpo%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557). Lastly, the media art for the original variant currently showcases the disc for - Premium Box. The correct disc for the original variant is shown here (https://www.mobygames.com/images/covers/l/543833-angelique-special-2-playstation-media.jpg).
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on September 02, 2020, 12:09:21 pm
My proposed edits for Angelique Special 2 (https://vgcollect.com/item/32597) were denied. Some information for this entry is wrong as it instead takes information—the item number, barcode, and media art, in particular—from its variant Angelique Special 2 - Premium Box (https://vgcollect.com/item/185427). Information for the original variant can be verified here (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Angelique-Special-2-Japan-PS1-PlayStation-1-Japanese-Version-Used-SLPS-00805-/163886227477), while information for the Premium Box can be verified here (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Angelique-Special-2-Limited-Edition-Premium-Box-Travel-Set-PS1-PlayStation-1-/254670979715?nma=true&si=hrbtv4qmz%252FGRVXLVXG%252BFB9Bqtpo%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557). Lastly, the media art for the original variant currently showcases the disc for - Premium Box. The correct disc for the original variant is shown here (https://www.mobygames.com/images/covers/l/543833-angelique-special-2-playstation-media.jpg).

Right so the edits were rejected because we do not allow for entry conversions. Any time it looks like that is what is happening, it will be denied.

Currently there are 3 entries in the db for this game:
Angelique Special 2 (the one in question): https://vgcollect.com/item/32597
Koei the Best: https://vgcollect.com/item/185426
Premium Box: https://vgcollect.com/item/185427

The information on 32597 that is being contested is not wholly important, as you notice this information was not added by the entry creator.
Is the implication here that there is only 2 releases of this game, the Premium Box and the Koei Best and there is no stand-alone release?

Also I notice in your edits and new items being created where you are using a truncated item number as descriptor. You need to use the full item number. See here for an example: https://vgcollect.com/search/advanced/84/%22call%20of%20duty%20ghosts%22/no-filter/ALL/ALL/ALL/ALL/ALL/no-filter/no-filter/no-filter
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on September 03, 2020, 10:57:25 am
Right so the edits were rejected because we do not allow for entry conversions. Any time it looks like that is what is happening, it will be denied.

Currently there are 3 entries in the db for this game:
Angelique Special 2 (the one in question): https://vgcollect.com/item/32597
Koei the Best: https://vgcollect.com/item/185426
Premium Box: https://vgcollect.com/item/185427

The information on 32597 that is being contested is not wholly important, as you notice this information was not added by the entry creator.
Is the implication here that there is only 2 releases of this game, the Premium Box and the Koei Best and there is no stand-alone release?

Also I notice in your edits and new items being created where you are using a truncated item number as descriptor. You need to use the full item number. See here for an example: https://vgcollect.com/search/advanced/84/%22call%20of%20duty%20ghosts%22/no-filter/ALL/ALL/ALL/ALL/ALL/no-filter/no-filter/no-filter

So, to have the item entries being correct, would I need to create a new entry for Angelique Special 2 with all of the correct information on my own, since I would be the original entry creator? The implication is that there are three separate and unique releases (32597, 185426, and 185427.)

As for the descriptors, I'll be sure to amend those changes and keep that in mind for future edits.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on September 03, 2020, 12:08:06 pm
Right so the edits were rejected because we do not allow for entry conversions. Any time it looks like that is what is happening, it will be denied.

Currently there are 3 entries in the db for this game:
Angelique Special 2 (the one in question): https://vgcollect.com/item/32597
Koei the Best: https://vgcollect.com/item/185426
Premium Box: https://vgcollect.com/item/185427

The information on 32597 that is being contested is not wholly important, as you notice this information was not added by the entry creator.
Is the implication here that there is only 2 releases of this game, the Premium Box and the Koei Best and there is no stand-alone release?

Also I notice in your edits and new items being created where you are using a truncated item number as descriptor. You need to use the full item number. See here for an example: https://vgcollect.com/search/advanced/84/%22call%20of%20duty%20ghosts%22/no-filter/ALL/ALL/ALL/ALL/ALL/no-filter/no-filter/no-filter

So, to have the item entries being correct, would I need to create a new entry for Angelique Special 2 with all of the correct information on my own, since I would be the original entry creator? The implication is that there are three separate and unique releases (32597, 185426, and 185427.)

I thought your original report here was that 32597 was a franken entry, having info for the Premium Box.
I am asking if a regular version exists, of which you didn't respond. Rather you said there was an original variant. It is a mixup of terms. I have corrected 32597.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on September 06, 2020, 08:53:01 am
Blank entries

https://vgcollect.com/item/185662
https://vgcollect.com/item/185661
https://vgcollect.com/item/185660

(https://vgcollect.com/images/gallery/1/18947/2_ezgif-1-1a13ac093785.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: aliensstudios on September 10, 2020, 07:19:45 pm
Should this item be classified as an "official release"?: https://vgcollect.com/item/182255
It's not like Nintendo themselves is printing the Game Boy Color cartridges.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on September 10, 2020, 09:58:04 pm
Should this item be classified as an "official release"?: https://vgcollect.com/item/182255
It's not like Nintendo themselves is printing the Game Boy Color cartridges.

I think I meant to change it to "Unofficial Release" because it was listed as a homebrew at first. It is a retail product but unlisenced.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on September 11, 2020, 09:50:47 am
The release type is in context with the category. So any game in GBC category is relative to the console. A product may be licensed as far as the content (Shantae) by the manufacturer or distributor, but that does not mean it is licensed by Nintendo, the maker of the console. So for a product such as this, it should be Unofficial Release.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on September 11, 2020, 01:48:29 pm
I submitted an edit to fix it.  :)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Faalagorn on September 11, 2020, 05:31:51 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/143267 have a 5017783024241 (https://www.google.pl/search?hl=en&q=5017783024241) barcode which seems to be a NL one judging from Google search and other games from a person that added the barcode to the database, but I have a (more popular) copy with 5017783024203 (https://www.google.pl/search?hl=en&q=5017783024203) barcode which seems to be UK one.

Seeing this entry is the only one in database, how should it be corrected without causing much interruption?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on September 11, 2020, 06:00:23 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/143267 have a 5017783024241 (https://www.google.pl/search?hl=en&q=5017783024241) barcode which seems to be a NL one judging from Google search and other games from a person that added the barcode to the database, but I have a (more popular) copy with 5017783024203 (https://www.google.pl/search?hl=en&q=5017783024203) barcode which seems to be UK one.

Seeing this entry is the only one in database, how should it be corrected without causing much interruption?

Seeing how this entry was intended to be the standard EU release, revising the barcode field with the correct information seems best. The information for the [NL] version would be dropped from the database entirely unless you go out of your way to create an entry for a [NL] release and then add its corresponding information to such an entry.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: zappman on September 13, 2020, 06:15:55 am
Does vgcollect allow entries for cell phone cases?
Supcase Unicorn Beetle for Galaxy S10 Plus (black) https://vgcollect.com/item/159675 (https://vgcollect.com/item/159675)
Supcase Unicorn Beetle for Galaxy S9 Plus (black) https://vgcollect.com/item/159674 (https://vgcollect.com/item/159674)
(https://vgcollect.com/images/gallery/1/18947/2_ezgif-1-1a13ac093785.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: zappman on September 13, 2020, 06:21:29 am
Does vgcollect allow entries for Dell computers?
Dell Inspiron 3048 Series 20 https://vgcollect.com/item/159203 (https://vgcollect.com/item/159203)
(https://vgcollect.com/images/gallery/1/18947/2_ezgif-1-1a13ac093785.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: zappman on September 13, 2020, 06:25:25 am
Does vgcollect allow entries for cell phones?
Samsung Galaxy S9 Plus 64GB AT&T Black https://vgcollect.com/item/159672 (https://vgcollect.com/item/159672)
(https://vgcollect.com/images/gallery/1/18947/2_ezgif-1-1a13ac093785.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: pzeke on September 13, 2020, 04:06:42 pm
Dude, edit your post next time.

While I'm at it, I'll throw this in the bag as well: https://vgcollect.com/item/156865

Completely non-video game related.

Does vgcollect allow entries for Dell computers?
Dell Inspiron 3048 Series 20 https://vgcollect.com/item/159203 (https://vgcollect.com/item/159203)
(https://vgcollect.com/images/gallery/1/18947/2_ezgif-1-1a13ac093785.gif)

Still shows up, by the way.

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on September 14, 2020, 11:01:13 am
Dude, edit your post next time.

Do not edit posts to add additional content to it, make a new post instead.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: pzeke on September 14, 2020, 11:31:03 am
Dude, edit your post next time.

Do not edit posts to add additional content to it, make a new post instead.

The thing is there's really not much of a time difference between his posts, plus by the time he posted there were no admins or mods to notice and potentially get confused or whatever.

Regardless, I sit corrected. Gots to follow them rulez.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on September 14, 2020, 12:09:27 pm
Just for this thread, or in Dupe thread, category or dev/pub requests, please no post editing. It is a simple request to avoid edit overlaps, which used to be quite common in the past before we started to ask users to not edit posts.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Faalagorn on September 15, 2020, 04:15:57 pm
Can you ignore my edit for the name change of https://vgcollect.com/item/74788? I originally wanted to distinguish this from https://vgcollect.com/item/46655, but it seems that atarmina also distinguish these two titles by the hyphen in name:
http://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-2600-vcs-super-ferrari_16416.html vs http://www.atarimania.com/game-super-ferrari_s7082.html
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on September 16, 2020, 09:25:54 am
The edit to add (black label) was rejected because there is only 1 entry in that category with that name.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Faalagorn on September 16, 2020, 01:27:15 pm
The edit to add (black label) was rejected because there is only 1 entry in that category with that name.
Thanks! :)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: fazerco on September 23, 2020, 10:42:51 am
Serious?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: price5474 on September 23, 2020, 10:57:39 am
I was updating the images for the PS4 NA version of Effie and the front image was rejected because the information was already on file, but the image on file is a isometric one.  I thought it was straight flat images that were preferred?

Sorry I'm probably missing something obvious but wasn't sure if I read something wrong on the style guide.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on September 23, 2020, 12:10:33 pm
price5474, when the edit came in, the site showed the new picture was the same as the old picture.

Serious?

If this is in regards to the front image on this Blacksad LE: https://vgcollect.com/item/172712
The front was rejected because the replacement picture was missing the label in the lower right corner that is present on the sealed (and existing) image. After researching it, it seems this label is only on the outer shrinkwrap and is not on the game case. If you can get a picture like the one you tried to put, but has this label on it, it should then be ok.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on September 24, 2020, 01:25:04 pm
Everybody's Golf - PlayStation 4 [NA] (https://vgcollect.com/item/130205)

Cart/Disc/Media art is incorrect. I can't find a sufficient replacement image to make an appropriate edit.


(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: fazerco on September 26, 2020, 09:42:44 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/186537 (https://vgcollect.com/item/186537)

Not only french, if it is french at all.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on September 26, 2020, 02:59:50 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/186537 (https://vgcollect.com/item/186537)

Not only french, if it is french at all.

Based on the provided item number, I believe it instead to be [FR] [NL]. DMG Database (http://www.game-boy-database.com/dmg-codes.php) does a good job explaining Game Boy cartridge codes. Although, the front image artwork edit seems to be wrong, which I believe instead is shown correctly here (https://www.picclickimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/dSwAAOSwFwNd-iNa/$/Game-Boy-Gameboy-Classic-Gb-Game-Boite-Gargoyles-_57.jpg).
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dagazconcept on September 27, 2020, 05:12:53 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/154978

**Please revert these changes made yesterday, I applied these to the PS4 version in error:


Your edit to Dragon Sinker: Descendants of Legend (cave cover) was approved.
Sunday September 27th, 2020 at 11:20 AM
Field:   image_back
New Value:   new

Your edit to Dragon Sinker: Descendants of Legend (cave cover) was approved.
Sunday September 27th, 2020 at 11:20 AM
Field:   barcode
New Value:   819976021564

Your edit to Dragon Sinker: Descendants of Legend (cave cover) was approved.
Sunday September 27th, 2020 at 11:20 AM
Field:   item_number
New Value:   2104683

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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: gamecollectord on September 27, 2020, 11:15:39 pm
I'll be submitting changes myself but going to provide additional context here:

Multiple versions of the PS1 NA Tarzan game exist:
https://vgcollect.com/item/6469 (Walt Disney Pictures Presents Tarzan)
https://vgcollect.com/item/6470 (Disney's Tarzan - Collector's Edition (part of a set))
https://vgcollect.com/item/25152 (Disney's Tarzan - Greatest Hits)

A fourth version exists of https://vgcollect.com/item/6469 that is published by Take 2

I'll be renaming #6469 to just be "Disney's Tarzan" to be in line with the other versions,
and adding a description line that says "This is the original release (published by Sony)"
and I'll be adding another Tarzan game that is the Take2 release:
https://vgcollect.com/item/186654

Edit: Maybe instead of putting the stuff about it being a rerelease and original release in the description, I should have put it in the title.

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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on September 28, 2020, 09:21:45 am
Fixed the titles of the Tarzan games.

https://vgcollect.com/item/154978

**Please revert these changes made yesterday, I applied these to the PS4 version in error:

Fixed barcode. Removed item number. IDK what you want to be done with the cover.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dagazconcept on September 28, 2020, 04:45:41 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/154978

**Please revert these changes made yesterday, I applied these to the PS4 version in error:

Fixed barcode. Removed item number. IDK what you want to be done with the cover.

Please remove the back cover image, Thank You! :)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on September 29, 2020, 09:17:33 am
I see now. Back cover removed.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on September 30, 2020, 02:35:30 pm
Accidentally submitted an edit to change the Xbox One version of this game when there was no Limited Run release, could you reject this edit? Thanks!

https://vgcollect.com/item/178840

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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Faalagorn on October 04, 2020, 09:13:57 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/168131

Image is 404

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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dagazconcept on October 08, 2020, 01:02:27 pm
I have a rejected barcode edit for https://vgcollect.com/item/122585 (https://vgcollect.com/item/122585) "Mutant Mudds Deluxe" (ps4)

The PS4 page currently has the same barcode as the PSVita version: https://vgcollect.com/item/124737 (https://vgcollect.com/item/124737)

The PS4 back image has the correct barcode on it: 636676491929

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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on October 09, 2020, 09:53:45 am
In general, it is not recommended to attempt to change a barcode through an edit, if the entry has the wrong barcode. Instead just post into here.

The only time barcade changes can get through is if there is a typo or missing check digit on the barcode on the entry and the replacement barcode is complete.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dagazconcept on October 09, 2020, 12:23:58 pm
In general, it is not recommended to attempt to change a barcode through an edit, if the entry has the wrong barcode. Instead just post into here.

The only time barcade changes can get through is if there is a typo or missing check digit on the barcode on the entry and the replacement barcode is complete.

I will do so going forward, Thank you ! :)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: pzeke on October 11, 2020, 11:35:29 am
I reckon there's a bunch of Pixel Pals figures, but this one isn't related to any video game: https://vgcollect.com/item/178779

Also, this...: https://vgcollect.com/item/187159

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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dagazconcept on October 11, 2020, 10:50:03 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/141738 (https://vgcollect.com/item/141738) "Factotum 90 (black cover)" PS4,   **Please remove/delete [Back Art] image.

     The [Back Art] for this item is actually the [Front Art] for the reverse-side cover ( which already is used appropriately on the other item page: https://vgcollect.com/item/176116 (https://vgcollect.com/item/176116) "Factotum 90 (purple cover)" PS4.

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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on October 12, 2020, 12:01:57 pm
Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition - Nintendo Switch [NA] (https://vgcollect.com/item/168572) (no version outside of the dual pack exists, assumed version here (https://vgcollect.com/item/184844))

Empty (https://vgcollect.com/item/187146)

Modern - PlayStation [NA] (https://vgcollect.com/item/45891)

Nascar 95 - PlayStation [NA] (https://vgcollect.com/item/171639)

Silent Tactics - PlayStation [NA] (https://vgcollect.com/item/7510)


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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on October 12, 2020, 06:59:01 pm
Final Fantasy [EU] - https://vgcollect.com/item/187213

Box art and barcode are from the NA release, release date is from the JP release. To my knowledge the first Final Fantasy was never released in Europe.

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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: pzeke on October 13, 2020, 06:57:51 pm
Repeat offender: https://vgcollect.com/item/187246

Perhaps a message is in order to let her know why this item in particular isn't accepted in the database.

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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dagazconcept on October 14, 2020, 01:24:35 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/131098 (https://vgcollect.com/item/131098) "Redout - Lightspeed Edition" PS4

The [Back Box Art] and [Cart/Disc/Media Art] images are not appearing on page refresh or no-cache page refresh....other product pages appear fine for me.

I can do scans and upload new ones, but I wanted to check here first in case it's something else maybe ?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on October 14, 2020, 09:26:02 am
That ID is from back when we lost a bunch of images on the site. There are still going to be entries where these broken images are located. You can replace them with an edit, otherwise we typically just remove them.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on October 14, 2020, 03:39:21 pm
Set (https://vgcollect.com/item/187284) of (https://vgcollect.com/item/187285) games (https://vgcollect.com/item/187286) with (https://vgcollect.com/item/187287) Chinese (https://vgcollect.com/item/187288) titles (https://vgcollect.com/item/187290).

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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on October 14, 2020, 04:44:40 pm
Please don't link to items like that.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Faalagorn on October 16, 2020, 06:02:26 pm
Please reject my name change to Sony PlayStation Dual Shock Controller - Gray https://vgcollect.com/item/19529 – I didn't realize it was in fact originally called "Dual Shock" with a space in it :)

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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: n64ra on October 20, 2020, 12:15:56 pm
Hello,

This is the entry for Untitled Goose Game PS4 [NA] - https://www.vgcollect.com/item/187532. It has the correct name, image, and release status.

There is another entry named Untitled Goose Game PS4 [NA] - https://www.vgcollect.com/item/182876. However, it has the image of "Untitled Goose Game - Lovely Edition" and the correct Lovely Edition status of "Unreleased (but official)". Therefore, it should be renamed to "Untitled Goose Game - Lovely Edition". My edit was rejected so please fix. Thanks

Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on October 20, 2020, 12:28:22 pm
Hello,

This is the entry for Untitled Goose Game PS4 [NA] - https://www.vgcollect.com/item/187532. It has the correct name, image, and release status.

There is another entry named Untitled Goose Game PS4 [NA] - https://www.vgcollect.com/item/182876. However, it has the image of "Untitled Goose Game - Lovely Edition" and the correct Lovely Edition status of "Unreleased (but official)". Therefore, it should be renamed to "Untitled Goose Game - Lovely Edition". My edit was rejected so please fix. Thanks

Need photo proof that 182876 has text "Lovely Edition" on the packaging. I found one picture of that version but it was front picture only and that text isn't present.

I have updated the entry to use a descriptor, and put Lovely Edition into alt-name and description.

Unreleased (but official) is only to be used for prototypes and things that were manufactured but never released officially. For official product entries that are announced but not yet released, use Official Release (Upcoming)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: n64ra on October 21, 2020, 01:23:04 pm
Need photo proof that 182876 has text "Lovely Edition" on the packaging. I found one picture of that version but it was front picture only and that text isn't present.

I have updated the entry to use a descriptor, and put Lovely Edition into alt-name and description.

Unreleased (but official) is only to be used for prototypes and things that were manufactured but never released officially. For official product entries that are announced but not yet released, use Official Release (Upcoming)

Ok, so the release was wrong, but you fixed it. :)

Regarding Lovely Edition, does the publisher's own description not suffice https://www.iam8bit.com/products/untitled-goose-game-lovely-edition-playstation-4 ?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on October 22, 2020, 10:00:15 am
Need photo proof that 182876 has text "Lovely Edition" on the packaging. I found one picture of that version but it was front picture only and that text isn't present.

I have updated the entry to use a descriptor, and put Lovely Edition into alt-name and description.

Unreleased (but official) is only to be used for prototypes and things that were manufactured but never released officially. For official product entries that are announced but not yet released, use Official Release (Upcoming)

Ok, so the release was wrong, but you fixed it. :)

Regarding Lovely Edition, does the publisher's own description not suffice https://www.iam8bit.com/products/untitled-goose-game-lovely-edition-playstation-4 ?

We're not interested in tracking SKUs on some website.

The example I like to use is: if someone finds this item at a thrift store, how could they know it is called Lovely Edition if that text is not present on the item itself? If you cannot tell from the item itself in sealed form that it has a name like this, that name should not be in the item title. It is perfectly fine to put that information in the description, because that is the place to put trivia.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: ignition365 on October 26, 2020, 08:48:35 am
Dragon Marked for Death
https://vgcollect.com/item/156846

Cover Art is incorrect.  Nintendo puts publisher logo on the front of box.  Inti creates is not the publisher, Nighthawk Interactive is the publisher.  Simple ebay search will show that all copies of this game have the Nighthawk logo and not the inti creates logo.

Submitted correction and it was rejected.

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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on October 26, 2020, 09:32:45 am
Is the "Best Seller" moniker for GameCube games a label variation or a separate release?

There are items in the DB that have both (Best Seller) and "- Best Seller" and I was looking for some clarification.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on October 26, 2020, 10:30:37 am
Dragon Marked for Death
https://vgcollect.com/item/156846

Cover Art is incorrect.  Nintendo puts publisher logo on the front of box.  Inti creates is not the publisher, Nighthawk Interactive is the publisher.  Simple ebay search will show that all copies of this game have the Nighthawk logo and not the inti creates logo.

Submitted correction and it was rejected.

I did a reject on it as well, must have been the second time. The reason for reject was (as it happened before reading your post) was that the replacement artwork had a ton of whitespace around it.

I fixed the images on the entry.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on October 26, 2020, 10:38:15 am
Is the "Best Seller" moniker for GameCube games a label variation or a separate release?

There are items in the DB that have both (Best Seller) and "- Best Seller" and I was looking for some clarification.

Looking at an example, Super Mario Strikers, it seems that Best Seller is just a cover variation vs the original. The disc is not any different. The case number and UPC are the same. The two main differences is the presence of the Best Seller starburst on the front and different cover numbers on the back.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on October 26, 2020, 11:00:05 am
Is the "Best Seller" moniker for GameCube games a label variation or a separate release?

There are items in the DB that have both (Best Seller) and "- Best Seller" and I was looking for some clarification.

Looking at an example, Super Mario Strikers, it seems that Best Seller is just a cover variation vs the original. The disc is not any different. The case number and UPC are the same. The two main differences is the presence of the Best Seller starburst on the front and different cover numbers on the back.

Okay, I will fix all the ones that have a dash to parenthesis. Thanks for clarifying :)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: rathan77 on October 26, 2020, 11:06:46 pm
Space Hulk: Vengeance of the Blood Angels
https://vgcollect.com/item/86290

Looking for some assistance on this game.
There seems to be two versions of the cover, The main difference is the color behind 'Vengeance of the Blood Angels' text being Yellow or Red.

MobyGames only has the one cover in red as the German release.
GameFAQs has the yellow version as the EU release (seen GameFAQs use stock images incorrectly many times)
Doing a search on Ebay, I was only able to find sales with the red.

Any help clarifying this would be great.

Below are some photos I took of the game I own.

https://i.imgur.com/llNBbAS.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/oFw6qSK.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/mmqvFUj.jpg

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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on October 27, 2020, 10:30:35 am
Cover that was on entry, and cover on GameFAQs is of the instruction manual. Fixed cover.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: rathan77 on October 27, 2020, 10:58:52 am
Cover that was on entry, and cover on GameFAQs is of the instruction manual. Fixed cover.

Ah the manual, didn't even think of that.
Thanks heaps
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: ignition365 on October 29, 2020, 10:20:29 am
I don't really feel like creating a new topic just to ask this question.  Should non-platform holder approved releases be considered official, unofficial, or homebrew?

Mega Man X 30th anniversary release
https://vgcollect.com/item/151278

Street fighter
https://vgcollect.com/item/136494
https://vgcollect.com/item/136493

Mega Man 2
https://vgcollect.com/item/151570
https://vgcollect.com/item/151771

Metal Storm
https://vgcollect.com/item/172804

There are more examples
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on October 29, 2020, 12:03:06 pm
I believe they are considered unofficial releases.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on October 29, 2020, 12:14:19 pm
In terms of the database, the Release Type is in relation to the console category. It has nothing to do with whether or not the people who made the item or software had a license agreement with anyone to make the product. So for a game that was released on physical media for a Nintendo console after the fact, if it is not an officially licensed Nintendo Product, it is an Unofficial Release.

No physical game should be set to homebrew. An entry in a physical category is for the item itself, not for the game content. See this text from the Advanced Guide:

Quote
Homebrew vs Unofficial Release
A homebrew that is released commercially for a console is considered to be an aftermarket or unofficial release in terms of the database. For a physical item, which is tracked in a physical game category, the context is for the item itself, not the data content.
Example: Pier Solar and the Great Architects (the game data) is a homebrew, but the products that contain the data is an Unofficial Release.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Flashback2012 on November 01, 2020, 05:04:53 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/143833

This has a release date listed but I've never seen it in stores. At first I was going to post this because of the wrong box art but I did some digging and can't find this on Gamestop or Amazon.

There's no indication of a Xbox One release on the official site.
https://www.ufointeractivegames.com/raiden-v

Perhaps it's a digital release? I know nothing about Xbox One digital marketplace so I have no way to verify that.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: aliensstudios on November 01, 2020, 09:59:43 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/143833

This has a release date listed but I've never seen it in stores. At first I was going to post this because of the wrong box art but I did some digging and can't find this on Gamestop or Amazon.

There's no indication of a Xbox One release on the official site.
https://www.ufointeractivegames.com/raiden-v

Perhaps it's a digital release? I know nothing about Xbox One digital marketplace so I have no way to verify that.
That's a Japanese release. It has been merged with the proper listing into the Japanese Xbox One category.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dagazconcept on November 03, 2020, 03:52:30 pm
Correction

https://vgcollect.com/item/20275 (https://vgcollect.com/item/20275) "Torchlight" (pc)

I added the wrong item number to this page in error.

After further research, the Item number is: 15980-BOX
     
eBay - Torchlight Small Box release, Barcode and Item Number pictures
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Torchlight-RPG-Windows-PC-2010-Encore-Runic-Computer-Game-DvD-Disc/284065166613 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Torchlight-RPG-Windows-PC-2010-Encore-Runic-Computer-Game-DvD-Disc/284065166613)
     *The barcode in the ebay pictures matches the VGC item page, to further substantiate the aforementioned Item Number.



Question

https://vgcollect.com/item/20275 (https://vgcollect.com/item/20275) "Torchlight" (pc)

I have a rejected title edit: "Torchlight (Small box)"

The ADVANCED Style Guide (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10837.msg177773.html#msg177773) says this:
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Item Name
An item name can consist of multiple parts. The type of item determines which parts are used.
Physical Games: GameTitle (descriptor) - Edition [TLD]
Quote
Descriptors
Descriptors are used to differentiate similar releases where the result would be two items with the same name in a category.
DO NOT use generic descriptors such as "variant" or "alternate"

I realized my physical copy is an alternate release that came in a DVD box, not a PC Small Box ... with different back cover also. 
As such, I created a new VGC item for that to differentiate it:
https://vgcollect.com/item/188341 "Torchlight (DVD box)"

I thought this was a proper use of the descriptor, so I applied that as a title change to 20275 VGC item page, but it was rejected.
 
Does that mean that the VGC item I added for my physical copy (188341) also has an incorrect descriptor usage in the Game Title ?
     *If so, can you instruct me how you want it done in the future?

Thank you for reading!
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: pzeke on November 04, 2020, 09:12:39 am
Blank, empty.

https://vgcollect.com/item/188409
https://vgcollect.com/item/188410


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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on November 04, 2020, 09:24:03 am
Question

https://vgcollect.com/item/20275 (https://vgcollect.com/item/20275) "Torchlight" (pc)

I have a rejected title edit: "Torchlight (Small box)"

Only for formatting reasons, descriptor should only have proper term if text is present. So it was a reject only because you put Small but would have been approved if you put small. That upper case S was the only reason.

For your other item, DVD box may not be good if the "small box" version also has a DVD.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: rathan77 on November 04, 2020, 11:51:11 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/103338

Back cover and disc image rejected.

Current back image is for a ' not to be sold separately' version.
Replacement cover had correct barcode.

Why was this change rejected?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: pzeke on November 04, 2020, 02:00:23 pm
The entry you edited is correct, as it pertains to a variant release of the game in question; the title should be edited to reflect this. The proper course of action in your case would be to make an entry for the retail version.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on November 05, 2020, 10:11:51 am
I don't think the entry was inspected, just rejected from the queue for trying to change the back art from a NFR to retail cover. Otherwise, it would have been noticed it was a franken entry, since there was a barcode on the entry as well. It worked out in the end, but it is annoying because an entry like this could go either way.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: fazerco on November 06, 2020, 01:20:34 pm
For mod, i changed this one
https://vgcollect.com/item/179946 (https://vgcollect.com/item/179946)

Front was wrong picture, it was missing the 20 anni edition.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on November 09, 2020, 08:06:23 pm
More 3DS/Wii U default software
AR Games: https://vgcollect.com/item/114837
Mii Maker: https://vgcollect.com/item/114835 and https://vgcollect.com/item/180581
Mii Plaza: https://vgcollect.com/item/114834
Face Raiders: https://vgcollect.com/item/51413
Daily Log: https://vgcollect.com/item/180577
Parental controls: https://vgcollect.com/item/180583
System settings: https://vgcollect.com/item/180588
Wii U Chat: https://vgcollect.com/item/180592

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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on November 10, 2020, 10:02:39 am
My edit to add the front cover to Shantae and the Seven Sirens on PS4 was rejected for "watermark"

https://vgcollect.com/item/178754

The image I sent was a photo taken of my own personal copy so I can guarantee there is no watermark on the photo. The back cover art I submitted was accepted. Image link: https://imgur.com/uUNOwL2


My edit to fix the cart art on Super Mario 3D All-Stars on the Switch was also rejected for "incorrect formatting"

https://vgcollect.com/item/185467

The cart on the current listing is incorrect. The item number on the cart image does not match up to the item number on the box (ANB3S vs. AVP3A), and the current image has the wrong ESRB rating (E10+), when it should be E. It appears there is an E10+ rated version of this game out there, but this is the E rated version so the cart should be updated to match the box art and the item numbers.

Unboxing of the E10+ version: https://www.bilibili.com/s/video/BV1Rz4y1o7b8
Image link, again, taken from my own personal copy: https://imgur.com/x18fV4j
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on November 10, 2020, 12:02:12 pm
For 178754, the art that showed up as being uploaded was an LRG stock photo (watermark)
For 185467, the cart picture was sideways (incorrect formatting)

Removed cart art on 185467
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on November 10, 2020, 01:07:56 pm
For 178754, the art that showed up as being uploaded was an LRG stock photo (watermark)
For 185467, the cart picture was sideways (incorrect formatting)

Removed cart art on 185467

I don't have any watermarked photos of this game on my computer at all so I have no possible idea how it came out like that, but I will resubmit edits. Same thing with a sideways image but I redid that one just to be sure.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on November 11, 2020, 09:23:37 am
It is possible that it was someone else who tried to put an image with LRG watermark on it and a different admin had rejected your image. I try to remember in short term memory when posting in this thread. The queue tool doesn't have a history so if someone doesn't remember, it doesn't really help in replying. That is why when you make a post here, especially for an art rejection, that you link to the image you tried to put rather than just saying it was rejected and not show what it was. In addition, that means that other admins could potentially answer the question even if they didn't work on the queue, or other members for that matter.

Be aware that while there are only 3 DB Admin users, there are still a couple legacy users that work through the queue, as well as any of the red Admins.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: aliensstudios on November 14, 2020, 03:32:47 pm
Curious as to why these three titles are classified as Xbox 360 titles and not original Xbox
https://vgcollect.com/item/11184
https://vgcollect.com/item/11186
https://vgcollect.com/item/11185
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on November 14, 2020, 04:16:16 pm
Curious as to why these three titles are classified as Xbox 360 titles and not original Xbox
https://vgcollect.com/item/11184
https://vgcollect.com/item/11186
https://vgcollect.com/item/11185

In addition to enhanced graphics, each of these three games also slightly changes depending on which console is being used. So, essentially, two versions of each game are on one disc. However, the games were marketed as Xbox 360 games that an Xbox could also play—not backwards compatibility. This would be my argument for the games' current categorization, anyway.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: pzeke on November 14, 2020, 11:22:19 pm
I recall this being brought up by someone once and there being a discussion about it. I think what dhaabi said was more or less what was agreed on.

I dunno, maybe I'm misremembering...
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on November 16, 2020, 10:35:52 am
Each of those have text "Xbox 360" on them. "Includes Xbox 360 and Xbox Original versions"
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: ignition365 on November 18, 2020, 01:27:18 pm
I made some changes and they all got declined... I kind of figured they would, so I'll post some listings with complaints mostly because they are inconsistent and inconsistent via tripredacus.

New Play Control games.  Two different naming styles.  Personally, I think the [Title Name] (New Play Control!) is the way to go, but whatever, it's inconsistent.
https://vgcollect.com/item/15851
https://vgcollect.com/item/27033
https://vgcollect.com/item/27034

These I think are a remnant of the short period of time where games with accessories were thrown in the accessory category instead of the game category.
Nintendo Wii [Something]  The things are not called "Nintendo Wii Fit" or "Nintendo Wii Play", they are Wii Fit and Wii Play, as shown in their individual title listings.  Wii Play shouldn't be listed as Wii Remote - Wii Play, Wii Play is the item, the Wii Remote is the bundled extra, you don't call Skyward Sword with the soundtrack "25th Anniversary Music CD - Legend of Zelda, The: Skyward Sword".  Also doesn't make sense to just call them "Wii Fit" and "Wii Play" because there is the stand alone games and the game bundles.  Obviously what I chose was not the "correct" title, but they are obviously wrongly named as current.  Seems like they should be "Wii Fit (Balance Board Bundle)" and "Wii Play (Bonus Wii Remote)"  Using the Descriptor section instead of the Edition section because these aren't "editions" as such.
https://vgcollect.com/item/17135
https://vgcollect.com/item/4832

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on November 19, 2020, 10:05:52 am
I rejected these edits of yours yesterday, so I can say exactly why... for the most part.

The "New Play Control" ones, I agree that they should be formatted that way, however they are just games, and those entries are using the names as seen on GameFAQs.

27033 - https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/wii/954379-new-play-control-donkey-kong-jungle-beat/images/1121325
15851 - https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/wii/954380-new-play-control-pikmin/images/1115603
27034 - https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/wii/954383-new-play-control-mario-power-tennis/images/1115981

I have corrected the name on Mario Power Tennis. :\

For the Nintendo Wii Remote, you were on the right track on changing the name (it should be as you say) as it is obviously a game with an accessory. I recall doing the reject due to formatting or perhaps there was a typo.

For the Wii Fit, it is different, as it is obviously not a game with an accessory, rather an accessory with a game, so it should follow accessory naming convention.

Term bundle cannot be used in a descriptor unless that wording is on the actual product itself.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: ignition365 on November 19, 2020, 10:32:54 am
I rejected these edits of yours yesterday, so I can say exactly why... for the most part.

The "New Play Control" ones, I agree that they should be formatted that way, however they are just games, and those entries are using the names as seen on GameFAQs.

27033 - https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/wii/954379-new-play-control-donkey-kong-jungle-beat/images/1121325
15851 - https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/wii/954380-new-play-control-pikmin/images/1115603
27034 - https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/wii/954383-new-play-control-mario-power-tennis/images/1115981

I have corrected the name on Mario Power Tennis. :\

For the Nintendo Wii Remote, you were on the right track on changing the name (it should be as you say) as it is obviously a game with an accessory. I recall doing the reject due to formatting or perhaps there was a typo.

For the Wii Fit, it is different, as it is obviously not a game with an accessory, rather an accessory with a game, so it should follow accessory naming convention.

Term bundle cannot be used in a descriptor unless that wording is on the actual product itself.
Okay, but obviously Nintendo Wii Fit isn't the right name.  Wii Fit is also not the right name either because the stand alone entry is listed that way.  So what should its name be?  "Wii Fit (Balance Board)" "Wii Fit (with Balance Board)"?

I see that I submitted "Wii Play - Bonus Wii Remote" instead of "Wii Play (Bonus Wii Remote)".  Resubmitted with correct(?) name.

Also, strong disagree on your statement regarding Wii Fit being an accessory with a game.  It's not marketed or advertised as Wii Balance Board w/Wii Fit... it is Wii Fit with the Wii Balance Board.

It's not like Link's Crossbow Training and the Wii Zapper, which definitely is advertised and marketed as the Wii Zapper with Link's crossbow training... which as I can see on the site we have treated as a game with an accessory, so even the logic of accessory with a game doesn't fly either.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on November 19, 2020, 10:41:10 am
I rejected these edits of yours yesterday, so I can say exactly why... for the most part.

The "New Play Control" ones, I agree that they should be formatted that way, however they are just games, and those entries are using the names as seen on GameFAQs.

27033 - https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/wii/954379-new-play-control-donkey-kong-jungle-beat/images/1121325
15851 - https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/wii/954380-new-play-control-pikmin/images/1115603
27034 - https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/wii/954383-new-play-control-mario-power-tennis/images/1115981

I have corrected the name on Mario Power Tennis. :\

For the Nintendo Wii Remote, you were on the right track on changing the name (it should be as you say) as it is obviously a game with an accessory. I recall doing the reject due to formatting or perhaps there was a typo.

For the Wii Fit, it is different, as it is obviously not a game with an accessory, rather an accessory with a game, so it should follow accessory naming convention.

Term bundle cannot be used in a descriptor unless that wording is on the actual product itself.
Okay, but obviously Nintendo Wii Fit isn't the right name.  Wii Fit is also not the right name either because the stand alone entry is listed that way.  So what should its name be?  "Wii Fit (Balance Board)" "Wii Fit (with Balance Board)"?

I see that I submitted "Wii Play - Bonus Wii Remote" instead of "Wii Play (Bonus Wii Remote)".  Resubmitted with correct(?) name.

Nintendo Wii Fit is the correct name. All hardware and accessories should have the manufacturer first in the name, even if it is an accessory that is in a game category.

For games, hyphen is only for edition or pack notation, not a descriptor. Descriptor should have box text or physical/visual description. So a box text descriptor such as "Bonus Wii Remote" is not valid to use the hyphen, and is correct to use as (Bonus Wii Remote).
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: ignition365 on November 19, 2020, 10:44:28 am
I rejected these edits of yours yesterday, so I can say exactly why... for the most part.

The "New Play Control" ones, I agree that they should be formatted that way, however they are just games, and those entries are using the names as seen on GameFAQs.

27033 - https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/wii/954379-new-play-control-donkey-kong-jungle-beat/images/1121325
15851 - https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/wii/954380-new-play-control-pikmin/images/1115603
27034 - https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/wii/954383-new-play-control-mario-power-tennis/images/1115981

I have corrected the name on Mario Power Tennis. :\

For the Nintendo Wii Remote, you were on the right track on changing the name (it should be as you say) as it is obviously a game with an accessory. I recall doing the reject due to formatting or perhaps there was a typo.

For the Wii Fit, it is different, as it is obviously not a game with an accessory, rather an accessory with a game, so it should follow accessory naming convention.

Term bundle cannot be used in a descriptor unless that wording is on the actual product itself.
Okay, but obviously Nintendo Wii Fit isn't the right name.  Wii Fit is also not the right name either because the stand alone entry is listed that way.  So what should its name be?  "Wii Fit (Balance Board)" "Wii Fit (with Balance Board)"?

I see that I submitted "Wii Play - Bonus Wii Remote" instead of "Wii Play (Bonus Wii Remote)".  Resubmitted with correct(?) name.

Nintendo Wii Fit is the correct name. All hardware and accessories should have the manufacturer first in the name, even if it is an accessory that is in a game category.

For games, hyphen is only for edition or pack notation, not a descriptor. Descriptor should have box text or physical/visual description. So a box text descriptor such as "Bonus Wii Remote" is not valid to use the hyphen, and is correct to use as (Bonus Wii Remote).
Again, Wii Fit isn't an accessory.  The Balance Board is an accessory.  So it can be Nintendo Balance Board (Wii Fit) if you want, but that still doesn't make sense.

Wii Fit (Nintendo Balance Board) makes more sense.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on November 19, 2020, 10:49:24 am
I rejected these edits of yours yesterday, so I can say exactly why... for the most part.

The "New Play Control" ones, I agree that they should be formatted that way, however they are just games, and those entries are using the names as seen on GameFAQs.

27033 - https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/wii/954379-new-play-control-donkey-kong-jungle-beat/images/1121325
15851 - https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/wii/954380-new-play-control-pikmin/images/1115603
27034 - https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/wii/954383-new-play-control-mario-power-tennis/images/1115981

I have corrected the name on Mario Power Tennis. :\

For the Nintendo Wii Remote, you were on the right track on changing the name (it should be as you say) as it is obviously a game with an accessory. I recall doing the reject due to formatting or perhaps there was a typo.

For the Wii Fit, it is different, as it is obviously not a game with an accessory, rather an accessory with a game, so it should follow accessory naming convention.

Term bundle cannot be used in a descriptor unless that wording is on the actual product itself.
Okay, but obviously Nintendo Wii Fit isn't the right name.  Wii Fit is also not the right name either because the stand alone entry is listed that way.  So what should its name be?  "Wii Fit (Balance Board)" "Wii Fit (with Balance Board)"?

I see that I submitted "Wii Play - Bonus Wii Remote" instead of "Wii Play (Bonus Wii Remote)".  Resubmitted with correct(?) name.

Nintendo Wii Fit is the correct name. All hardware and accessories should have the manufacturer first in the name, even if it is an accessory that is in a game category.

For games, hyphen is only for edition or pack notation, not a descriptor. Descriptor should have box text or physical/visual description. So a box text descriptor such as "Bonus Wii Remote" is not valid to use the hyphen, and is correct to use as (Bonus Wii Remote).
Again, Wii Fit isn't an accessory.  The Balance Board is an accessory.  So it can be Nintendo Balance Board (Wii Fit) if you want, but that still doesn't make sense.

Wii Fit (Nintendo Balance Board) makes more sense.

I see what you mean. Wii Fit (Wii Balance Board) would work.
EDIT: it has to be a game with an accessory. The text "Wii Balance Board" is from the top of the box.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: pzeke on November 21, 2020, 06:50:38 am
This entry (https://vgcollect.com/item/115942) and this one (https://vgcollect.com/item/82105) are the same; the Mysteries of the Sith comes bundled with Dark Forces II.

Quote
Star Wars Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II - GOG.com (https://www.gog.com/game/star_wars_jedi_knight_dark_forces_ii)

Star Wars™ Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II includes Star Wars™ Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II and Star Wars™ Jedi Knight - Mysteries of the Sith.

Technically speaking the original entry—82105—is the dupe

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: pzeke on November 21, 2020, 08:48:06 pm
Empty.

https://vgcollect.com/item/189739
https://vgcollect.com/item/189740

(https://vgcollect.com/images/gallery/1/18947/2_ezgif-1-1a13ac093785.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: 62gaming on November 22, 2020, 03:20:20 am
I submitted a corrected cart image for "Bugs Bunny Crazy Castle 2, The - Players Choice" and it was rejected on the grounds that the information was already on file:

https://vgcollect.com/item/51822

However the current cart image is the original cart and not the Player's Choice cart which I submitted, so it is still wrong.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on November 23, 2020, 11:15:37 am
Bugs Bunny Crazy Castle 2
- removed cart pic
- fixed item numbers
- removed trade symbols from box text
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: rathan77 on November 24, 2020, 05:01:39 am
Rejected Edit:

Evolution: The World of Sacred Device
Sega Dreamcast [EU]
https://vgcollect.com/item/85864

Current back image is of the French/Italian/Dutch release
https://www.mobygames.com/game/dreamcast/evolution-the-world-of-sacred-device/cover-art/gameCoverId,174115/

English EU release is:
https://www.mobygames.com/game/dreamcast/evolution-the-world-of-sacred-device/cover-art/gameCoverId,64365/

Back image in use would require another entry with TLD's
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: rathan77 on November 24, 2020, 05:10:35 am
Rejected edit:

Alex Kidd in the Enchanted Castle
Sega Mega Drive [AU]

Alt-Name is not 'Bonus' just because its on the back instead of a barcode
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: rathan77 on November 24, 2020, 05:14:00 am
Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood
PlayStation 3 [AU]
https://vgcollect.com/item/26234

Barcode is for a platinum release, no cover or other information supplied.
Edited entries to be correct by the title of just 'Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood', but all were rejected
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: rathan77 on November 24, 2020, 05:30:53 am

Question regarding editing posts.

What is the order to consider priority of the information on an entry before editing to correct or adding other entries for variants?

Would it be: Image > Title > Data
e.g. Title of entry should be changed to match the image and data to follow?
I thought Title would be first then changes made to match, just want to clarify for further entries to save time.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on November 24, 2020, 10:18:50 am
Rejected Edit:

Evolution: The World of Sacred Device
Sega Dreamcast [EU]
https://vgcollect.com/item/85864

Current back image is of the French/Italian/Dutch release
https://www.mobygames.com/game/dreamcast/evolution-the-world-of-sacred-device/cover-art/gameCoverId,174115/

English EU release is:
https://www.mobygames.com/game/dreamcast/evolution-the-world-of-sacred-device/cover-art/gameCoverId,64365/

Back image in use would require another entry with TLD's

Back image came with entry, cannot change it to a different version. Fixed entry. You can add a new entry for the EU version.

Rejected edit:

Alex Kidd in the Enchanted Castle
Sega Mega Drive [AU]

Alt-Name is not 'Bonus' just because its on the back instead of a barcode

Bonus is a search term. Refer to here:
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10837.msg178097.html#msg178097

Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood
PlayStation 3 [AU]
https://vgcollect.com/item/26234

Barcode is for a platinum release, no cover or other information supplied.
Edited entries to be correct by the title of just 'Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood', but all were rejected

Entry conversion is not allowed. If the information present are for the Platinum, then the entry has the wrong name. We do not allow you to change it to a different release.

Quote
Question regarding editing posts.

What is the order to consider priority of the information on an entry before editing to correct or adding other entries for variants?

Would it be: Image > Title > Data
e.g. Title of entry should be changed to match the image and data to follow?
I thought Title would be first then changes made to match, just want to clarify for further entries to save time.

The instances where a picture put is wrong outweighs a wrong barcode. Barcode should take priority over a picture and title. Also need to consider the history of the entry. Original data will always outweigh edits.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: rathan77 on November 24, 2020, 11:36:05 am

Thanks for clearing that up, just trying to get some of these entries correct and get them right myself.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: fazerco on November 24, 2020, 01:32:57 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/117928 (https://vgcollect.com/item/117928) It is dutch, or can u read the rear of the box? So tld is NL.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: pzeke on November 25, 2020, 05:27:25 am
As far as I know, these books have no relation to any video game:

https://vgcollect.com/item/142909
https://vgcollect.com/item/142910


(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on November 25, 2020, 09:38:06 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/117928 (https://vgcollect.com/item/117928) It is dutch, or can u read the rear of the box? So tld is NL.

There is no other item in this category with this title, so the TLD should not be put. You can put into description that it is released in Netherlands. Alternatively, if there is a UK version that has no entry, it can be created and then you can put [NL] on this item.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: fazerco on November 25, 2020, 09:44:44 am
Tld isnt put on items that are from the UK, or have their native language in the title, you break your own rules now.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on November 25, 2020, 11:18:17 am
Empty (https://vgcollect.com/item/188448) | Empty (https://vgcollect.com/item/188449) | Empty (https://vgcollect.com/item/189962)

Gegege no Kitarou: Gyakushuu! Youma Daichisen - PlayStation [JP] (https://vgcollect.com/item/121195)
Cart/Disc/Media art is a screenshot.

Germs - PlayStation [JP] (https://vgcollect.com/item/121196)
Cart/Disc/Media art is a screenshot.

zelda - 3DO [JP] (https://vgcollect.com/item/175662)
?


(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on November 25, 2020, 12:05:12 pm
Tld isnt put on items that are from the UK, or have their native language in the title, you break your own rules now.

No, it has always been this way. From the Style Guide:

Quote
TLD is only required on items to prevent a situation where two or more items would have the same name, but are actually different items and not duplicates.

So as I said, the TLD is not required on that entry because there is no other entry with the same title in that category. If this is only the case because we are missing the UK or English EU release, then that should be added and then the NL version can get NL in the title.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: fazerco on November 25, 2020, 01:25:15 pm




So as I said, the TLD is not required on that entry because there is no other entry with the same title in that category. If this is only the case because we are missing the UK or English EU release, then that should be added and then the NL version can get NL in the title.

We know thats not gonna happen, unless you do it.

The one thing that they are gonna try is put the UK back with this item, so to makes things easy, so they make a new item, we put NL on it. But its your database........
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: rathan77 on November 26, 2020, 05:12:21 am
On the subject of TLD's..

https://vgcollect.com/item/133459
I had a rejected change to: Outlaw Golf [DE][FR]
Cover has german USK rating, French SELL and French ATTENTION label

https://vgcollect.com/item/190078
Only has ELSPA

Haven't had to touch TLD's much yet, so not sure where I went wrong  with this one. (I read the TLD section twice)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on November 27, 2020, 12:04:33 pm
As posted in the previous example, usually a TLD would be rejected (besides it being wrong) is if there is only 1 entry in the category for that game. I do not know if the new entry you made was present at the time the edit appeared in the queue, it could be possible that was why it was rejected. It is fixed now.

I do know that EU sections are not complete with all of the versions, and in leiu of creating the missing UK versions, you can put into description the release country of the TLD-less/non UK version. So that it is know that it should have a TLD when the UK version is added, and when that time comes then the release country in description can be removed and the TLD added.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: fazerco on November 27, 2020, 01:20:15 pm
As posted in the previous example, usually a TLD would be rejected (besides it being wrong) is if there is only 1 entry in the category for that game. I do not know if the new entry you made was present at the time the edit appeared in the queue, it could be possible that was why it was rejected. It is fixed now.

I do know that EU sections are not complete with all of the versions, and in leiu of creating the missing UK versions, you can put into description the release country of the TLD-less/non UK version. So that it is know that it should have a TLD when the UK version is added, and when that time comes then the release country in description can be removed and the TLD added.

Do you read your own lines?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: ignition365 on November 28, 2020, 07:45:42 am
I only submitted the one because I figured it'd get rejected... so here I am again.

New'N'Tasty! Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee
https://vgcollect.com/item/188022

Every release except this one is labeled as 'Oddworld: New 'n' Tasty!'

I submitted an edit, not for 'Oddworld: New 'n' Tasty!', but for what is shown on GameFAQs 'Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee: New 'n' Tasty'.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on November 28, 2020, 10:09:28 am
Be aware that not everyone that goes through the edit queue posts in the forum or reads this thread. I didn't reject the edit that was posted about, so I can only post a possible reason why the edit was rejected.

As posted in the previous example, usually a TLD would be rejected (besides it being wrong) is if there is only 1 entry in the category for that game. I do not know if the new entry you made was present at the time the edit appeared in the queue, it could be possible that was why it was rejected. It is fixed now.

I do know that EU sections are not complete with all of the versions, and in leiu of creating the missing UK versions, you can put into description the release country of the TLD-less/non UK version. So that it is know that it should have a TLD when the UK version is added, and when that time comes then the release country in description can be removed and the TLD added.

Do you read your own lines?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on November 28, 2020, 10:14:18 am
I only submitted the one because I figured it'd get rejected... so here I am again.

New'N'Tasty! Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee
https://vgcollect.com/item/188022

Every release except this one is labeled as 'Oddworld: New 'n' Tasty!'

I submitted an edit, not for 'Oddworld: New 'n' Tasty!', but for what is shown on GameFAQs 'Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee: New 'n' Tasty'.

I remember doing this reject on your edit but it was because it had the hyphen as shown on that site "Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee - New 'n' Tasty" If you did a different edit using the (correct) formatting as shown in your post, it should have been approved.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: ignition365 on November 28, 2020, 12:34:14 pm
I only submitted the one because I figured it'd get rejected... so here I am again.

New'N'Tasty! Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee
https://vgcollect.com/item/188022

Every release except this one is labeled as 'Oddworld: New 'n' Tasty!'

I submitted an edit, not for 'Oddworld: New 'n' Tasty!', but for what is shown on GameFAQs 'Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee: New 'n' Tasty'.

I remember doing this reject on your edit but it was because it had the hyphen as shown on that site "Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee - New 'n' Tasty" If you did a different edit using the (correct) formatting as shown in your post, it should have been approved.
yes, i did a second submit with colons

Now, I have submitted a 3rd edit with the same 'Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee: New 'n' Tasty'
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: ignition365 on November 28, 2020, 04:21:00 pm
I only submitted the one because I figured it'd get rejected... so here I am again.

New'N'Tasty! Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee
https://vgcollect.com/item/188022

Every release except this one is labeled as 'Oddworld: New 'n' Tasty!'

I submitted an edit, not for 'Oddworld: New 'n' Tasty!', but for what is shown on GameFAQs 'Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee: New 'n' Tasty'.

I remember doing this reject on your edit but it was because it had the hyphen as shown on that site "Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee - New 'n' Tasty" If you did a different edit using the (correct) formatting as shown in your post, it should have been approved.
yes, i did a second submit with colons

Now, I have submitted a 3rd edit with the same 'Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee: New 'n' Tasty'
Rejected a 3rd time.  Wtf.

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/566227442642190356/782992883669270588/unknown.png)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: fazerco on November 29, 2020, 01:24:33 pm
I only submitted the one because I figured it'd get rejected... so here I am again.

New'N'Tasty! Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee
https://vgcollect.com/item/188022

Every release except this one is labeled as 'Oddworld: New 'n' Tasty!'

I submitted an edit, not for 'Oddworld: New 'n' Tasty!', but for what is shown on GameFAQs 'Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee: New 'n' Tasty'.

I remember doing this reject on your edit but it was because it had the hyphen as shown on that site "Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee - New 'n' Tasty" If you did a different edit using the (correct) formatting as shown in your post, it should have been approved.
yes, i did a second submit with colons

Now, I have submitted a 3rd edit with the same 'Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee: New 'n' Tasty'
Rejected a 3rd time.  Wtf.

Its the only button that works in the mod menu  ::)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: rathan77 on November 30, 2020, 03:20:00 am
Tales of Graces f - Day One Edition
https://vgcollect.com/item/31693

Requested change to:
Tales of Graces f - Day One Edition (box)

This is boxed release with extras, change to name to differentiate from the one I added (at the same time, so might be why again)
Its the game from within the box.

Tales of Graces f - Day One Edition
https://vgcollect.com/item/190296

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on November 30, 2020, 11:04:36 am
I only submitted the one because I figured it'd get rejected... so here I am again.

New'N'Tasty! Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee
https://vgcollect.com/item/188022

Every release except this one is labeled as 'Oddworld: New 'n' Tasty!'

I submitted an edit, not for 'Oddworld: New 'n' Tasty!', but for what is shown on GameFAQs 'Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee: New 'n' Tasty'.

I remember doing this reject on your edit but it was because it had the hyphen as shown on that site "Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee - New 'n' Tasty" If you did a different edit using the (correct) formatting as shown in your post, it should have been approved.
yes, i did a second submit with colons

Now, I have submitted a 3rd edit with the same 'Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee: New 'n' Tasty'
Rejected a 3rd time.  Wtf.

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/566227442642190356/782992883669270588/unknown.png)

I changed the name. I don't know who did the reject.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on November 30, 2020, 11:11:36 am
Tales of Graces f - Day One Edition
https://vgcollect.com/item/31693

Requested change to:
Tales of Graces f - Day One Edition (box)

This is boxed release with extras, change to name to differentiate from the one I added (at the same time, so might be why again)
Its the game from within the box.

Tales of Graces f - Day One Edition
https://vgcollect.com/item/190296

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)

Merged as dupe. This is not a situation where a second entry for the same thing would be made.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on November 30, 2020, 11:18:09 am
That game's name needs to be changed to a lower case f. I'll submit an edit.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: 62gaming on November 30, 2020, 01:27:56 pm
Hello, just wanted to know why the description I originally had for Mega Man Battle Network [DE][NL] got changed?

https://vgcollect.com/item/190018

Part of it was describing the box and manual variation (having EUU printed on the flaps and manual). Is this considered unneeded information? If that's the case I will stop including it in descriptions.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: rathan77 on December 01, 2020, 01:18:49 am
Tales of Graces f - Day One Edition
https://vgcollect.com/item/31693

Requested change to:
Tales of Graces f - Day One Edition (box)

This is boxed release with extras, change to name to differentiate from the one I added (at the same time, so might be why again)
Its the game from within the box.

Tales of Graces f - Day One Edition
https://vgcollect.com/item/190296

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)

Merged as dupe. This is not a situation where a second entry for the same thing would be made.


Ok, well to me that's weird for a collection site. I only own the game case and not the box collection, that is something I would want to keep track of visually in my list.
Also for being able to look up the game and find the version if came across secondhand.

Wouldn't that also include any game that is Not For Resale or Not to be Sold Separately and came within a box etc.?

But I will avoid these entries in the future.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: kam1kaz3nl77 on December 01, 2020, 08:31:15 am
accidentally made a -0- entry: https://vgcollect.com/item/190382 (pictures too big) please delete

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on December 01, 2020, 10:07:17 am
Hello, just wanted to know why the description I originally had for Mega Man Battle Network [DE][NL] got changed?

https://vgcollect.com/item/190018

Part of it was describing the box and manual variation (having EUU printed on the flaps and manual). Is this considered unneeded information? If that's the case I will stop including it in descriptions.

Likely too wordy, use of adjective or opinion related terms, or referring to other things besides the item itself.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on December 01, 2020, 10:16:20 am
Tales of Graces f - Day One Edition
https://vgcollect.com/item/31693

Requested change to:
Tales of Graces f - Day One Edition (box)

This is boxed release with extras, change to name to differentiate from the one I added (at the same time, so might be why again)
Its the game from within the box.

Tales of Graces f - Day One Edition
https://vgcollect.com/item/190296

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)

Merged as dupe. This is not a situation where a second entry for the same thing would be made.


Ok, well to me that's weird for a collection site. I only own the game case and not the box collection, that is something I would want to keep track of visually in my list.
Also for being able to look up the game and find the version if came across secondhand.

Wouldn't that also include any game that is Not For Resale or Not to be Sold Separately and came within a box etc.?

But I will avoid these entries in the future.

There are limitations in the design of the site that we take into consideration. If/when we get the ability to link items together, to allow us to track individual parts, then we will certainly add those additional parts.

My personal opinion is that to allow entries for these additional parts, without a sorting mechanism (such as the ability for people to choose to hide the additional items if they didn't want to see them) it will only clutter up the game categories. The pack-in entries and variations are already causing this issue, so I'd personally not want to add to it.

NFR and unique pack-in games from hardware, accessories or multipacks are allowed separate entries because either the community wanted it or it was a rule implemented by an admin before we let the community decide (through voting) some things on the site.

You can request consideration for a community vote on this topic here: https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,8361.0.html
The normal process is that you pose your suggestion, then we talk about it for a bit. If there is consensus to proceed, we will let the community vote on whether to implement it or not.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: 62gaming on December 01, 2020, 12:55:13 pm
Hello, just wanted to know why the description I originally had for Mega Man Battle Network [DE][NL] got changed?

https://vgcollect.com/item/190018

Part of it was describing the box and manual variation (having EUU printed on the flaps and manual). Is this considered unneeded information? If that's the case I will stop including it in descriptions.

Likely too wordy, use of adjective or opinion related terms, or referring to other things besides the item itself.

I compared it to the EUR variant which is on me, but if I were to re-edit in the information about the box and manual being marked EUU would that be accepted?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: ignition365 on December 01, 2020, 11:05:05 pm
1Print games are a relatively new publisher.  At the end of this post I've got listings for 2 of their 3 games.  The games are currently listed under Switch [JP], product codes for the games are ASI not JPN, and don't have CERO ratings.  Company exists/ships out of Japan though.  It seems like these should be under Switch [CN].  On a related note, I wonder if we should split/reorganize the Switch regions.  Technically Switch[CN] should be the Tencent region locked CN releases, and we should probably have a Switch[HK] for the non-rated (Read as non-TW) Switch releases with ASI product codes.  I'm trying to get some information out of some folks who work in those regions for more information.

Edit:  seems like these are produced in singapore, as are the paex games.  So maybe Switch [AS]?

Kero Blaster
https://vgcollect.com/item/171552

Ittle Dew
https://vgcollect.com/item/182415
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: koemo1 on December 02, 2020, 10:44:08 am
Found this obscure Playstation 2 game that is sectioned in the Playstation 1 section, could it be swapped?

K-1 PREMIUM DYNAMITE
https://vgcollect.com/item/182078
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on December 02, 2020, 10:57:04 am
Hello, just wanted to know why the description I originally had for Mega Man Battle Network [DE][NL] got changed?

https://vgcollect.com/item/190018

Part of it was describing the box and manual variation (having EUU printed on the flaps and manual). Is this considered unneeded information? If that's the case I will stop including it in descriptions.

Likely too wordy, use of adjective or opinion related terms, or referring to other things besides the item itself.

I compared it to the EUR variant which is on me, but if I were to re-edit in the information about the box and manual being marked EUU would that be accepted?

Yes such as

Quote
Box flap/manual item number:

See the Hidden Item Numbers section on the Advanced Guide for Item Numbers:
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10837.msg178223.html#msg178223
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on December 02, 2020, 11:20:35 am
Found this obscure Playstation 2 game that is sectioned in the Playstation 1 section, could it be swapped?

K-1 PREMIUM DYNAMITE
https://vgcollect.com/item/182078

You can submit an edit to change the category.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on December 02, 2020, 11:21:58 am
1Print games are a relatively new publisher.  At the end of this post I've got listings for 2 of their 3 games.  The games are currently listed under Switch [JP], product codes for the games are ASI not JPN, and don't have CERO ratings.  Company exists/ships out of Japan though.  It seems like these should be under Switch [CN].  On a related note, I wonder if we should split/reorganize the Switch regions.  Technically Switch[CN] should be the Tencent region locked CN releases, and we should probably have a Switch[HK] for the non-rated (Read as non-TW) Switch releases with ASI product codes.  I'm trying to get some information out of some folks who work in those regions for more information.

Edit:  seems like these are produced in singapore, as are the paex games.  So maybe Switch [AS]?

Kero Blaster
https://vgcollect.com/item/171552

Ittle Dew
https://vgcollect.com/item/182415

AS is American Samoa
Style Guide indicates to use the [CN] category for all SEA releases where a category doesn't exist. Think of treating CN like EU.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: ignition365 on December 02, 2020, 11:42:14 am
1Print games are a relatively new publisher.  At the end of this post I've got listings for 2 of their 3 games.  The games are currently listed under Switch [JP], product codes for the games are ASI not JPN, and don't have CERO ratings.  Company exists/ships out of Japan though.  It seems like these should be under Switch [CN].  On a related note, I wonder if we should split/reorganize the Switch regions.  Technically Switch[CN] should be the Tencent region locked CN releases, and we should probably have a Switch[HK] for the non-rated (Read as non-TW) Switch releases with ASI product codes.  I'm trying to get some information out of some folks who work in those regions for more information.

Edit:  seems like these are produced in singapore, as are the paex games.  So maybe Switch [AS]?

Kero Blaster
https://vgcollect.com/item/171552

Ittle Dew
https://vgcollect.com/item/182415

AS is American Samoa
Style Guide indicates to use the [CN] category for all SEA releases where a category doesn't exist. Think of treating CN like EU.
Hmmm. I think I'd like to suggest a conversation about that then.  Using [CN] to cover all of SEA doesn't seem like the right way to go.  ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 provides a series of alpha-2 codes that can be user assigned and the ISO 3166/MA will never use the codes in updating process of the standard.  I'd like to put forward the suggestion of using something like AA or XA for SEA categories.  Merge Switch[TW] and Switch[CN] into Switch[XA] and use TLDs like the [EU] categories or further split the Switch categories into Switch[HK], Switch[SG], Switch[TW], and leave Switch[CN] for the Chinese region locked releases.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: kam1kaz3nl77 on December 02, 2020, 01:27:36 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/190493 (there's a black box as picture ??? - rest of entry is prob good)
(https://vgcollect.com/images/gallery/1/18947/2_ezgif-1-1a13ac093785.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: kam1kaz3nl77 on December 02, 2020, 06:13:47 pm
I made this entry: https://vgcollect.com/item/190503

but that IS the European entry, not just the FRNL one, maybe merge with the one already one file: https://vgcollect.com/item/189494

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: kam1kaz3nl77 on December 03, 2020, 10:05:49 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/163234 - https://vgcollect.com/item/166597 - https://vgcollect.com/item/166598 (Gods & Monsters)

this ofcourse has been changed to Immortals: Fenyx Rising..... What to do? Merge?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on December 03, 2020, 10:21:21 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/163234 - https://vgcollect.com/item/166597 - https://vgcollect.com/item/166598 (Gods & Monsters)

this ofcourse has been changed to Immortals: Fenyx Rising..... What to do? Merge?

Yes, post them into the dupe thread.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on December 03, 2020, 10:27:06 pm
Found these three "yellow dot" releases of Uncharted 4 but I'm no expert on what region they're from. Any help?

https://vgcollect.com/item/182100
https://vgcollect.com/item/182103
https://vgcollect.com/item/182109
https://vgcollect.com/item/182097
https://vgcollect.com/item/182098
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: ignition365 on December 04, 2020, 08:33:27 am
1Print games are a relatively new publisher.  At the end of this post I've got listings for 2 of their 3 games.  The games are currently listed under Switch [JP], product codes for the games are ASI not JPN, and don't have CERO ratings.  Company exists/ships out of Japan though.  It seems like these should be under Switch [CN].  On a related note, I wonder if we should split/reorganize the Switch regions.  Technically Switch[CN] should be the Tencent region locked CN releases, and we should probably have a Switch[HK] for the non-rated (Read as non-TW) Switch releases with ASI product codes.  I'm trying to get some information out of some folks who work in those regions for more information.

Edit:  seems like these are produced in singapore, as are the paex games.  So maybe Switch [AS]?

Kero Blaster
https://vgcollect.com/item/171552

Ittle Dew
https://vgcollect.com/item/182415

AS is American Samoa
Style Guide indicates to use the [CN] category for all SEA releases where a category doesn't exist. Think of treating CN like EU.
The intent of this post was never, uh, acknowledged.  Do these games stay in JP or move to CN?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on December 04, 2020, 10:17:51 am
Found these three "yellow dot" releases of Uncharted 4 but I'm no expert on what region they're from. Any help?

https://vgcollect.com/item/182100
https://vgcollect.com/item/182103
https://vgcollect.com/item/182109
https://vgcollect.com/item/182097
https://vgcollect.com/item/182098

In general, the yellow dot means EU version for import to non EU territory. The game itself would typically have an import label on it when in sealed form to identify where they come from. The NFR being the exception, since that would have been included in a console.

I will look into 182100 and 182098 to see if I can tell what ratings those are using since they are not documented here.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on December 04, 2020, 10:18:13 am
1Print games are a relatively new publisher.  At the end of this post I've got listings for 2 of their 3 games.  The games are currently listed under Switch [JP], product codes for the games are ASI not JPN, and don't have CERO ratings.  Company exists/ships out of Japan though.  It seems like these should be under Switch [CN].  On a related note, I wonder if we should split/reorganize the Switch regions.  Technically Switch[CN] should be the Tencent region locked CN releases, and we should probably have a Switch[HK] for the non-rated (Read as non-TW) Switch releases with ASI product codes.  I'm trying to get some information out of some folks who work in those regions for more information.

Edit:  seems like these are produced in singapore, as are the paex games.  So maybe Switch [AS]?

Kero Blaster
https://vgcollect.com/item/171552

Ittle Dew
https://vgcollect.com/item/182415

AS is American Samoa
Style Guide indicates to use the [CN] category for all SEA releases where a category doesn't exist. Think of treating CN like EU.
The intent of this post was never, uh, acknowledged.  Do these games stay in JP or move to CN?

Yes, use [CN] category.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on December 10, 2020, 12:32:25 am
0 Kara no Shogi: Shogi Youchien Ayumi-Gumi - Limited Edition (https://vgcollect.com/item/185213)

I can't find any evidence of a Limited Edition or even a SLPS-02044 variant for this title. I originally made this entry early when I first started going through PlayStation [JP] before approaching entries more in-depth. The images currently used for 185213 are taken from the standard version (https://vgcollect.com/item/185212).
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on December 10, 2020, 11:31:16 am
0 Kara no Shogi: Shogi Youchien Ayumi-Gumi - Limited Edition (https://vgcollect.com/item/185213)

I can't find any evidence of a Limited Edition or even a SLPS-02044 variant for this title. I originally made this entry early when I first started going through PlayStation [JP] before approaching entries more in-depth. The images currently used for 185213 are taken from the standard version (https://vgcollect.com/item/185212).


Seems to be the LE with SLPS-01986 and JAN of 4537744093259 exists but a non-LE with the other information does not.

Ref:
Japanese title: 将棋幼稚園 あゆみ組 0からの将棋
Here is a transcription of the text on the cover of the LE

初回限定版特典
ミニ将棋セット
付き

Ebay LE:
https://ebay.com/itm/362897169954
https://ebay.com/itm/193616169514

YAJ LE:
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m455002226
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/r443440506
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: pajam on December 11, 2020, 02:56:38 pm
Back in 2018, I added the very rare Speed Devils "Clean" Variant for the North American Sega Dreamcast: https://vgcollect.com/item/151251


Originally, the standard release was simply named Speed Devils (as is expected), and I named my new variant Speed Devils (clean cover) according to the style guide.

However, I see earlier this year that Admin tripredacus updated the names of both games, changing the variant to simply Speed Devils, and changing the standard release to Speed Devils (devil cover).

This seems odd to me, since I'd think we'd want to highlight the much less common variants and releases with descriptors, and leave the standard release with the standard title.

Was this simply an oversight? If I re-edit the "clean variant" to add a descriptor in parentheses, will it be rejected? Since the Admin was the one who made these changes to both titles, I assume they are the expert and would not want to attempt to overwrite their change, but since it feels "off" I wanted to double check first.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on December 11, 2020, 03:25:07 pm
Clean is not descriptive enough and it is also a fan term in relation to this game. It is a term to be read as "doesn't have the thing the other version has" and we do not want to be referring to other versions on an entry, at least in this case. So to indicate that the one has a devil on the cover is better, than to have one be marked as "doesn't have a devil on the cover" type of descriptor.

Of course, the physical description descriptors always leave something to be desired. It is preferrable to have something more concrete, such as an item number or text difference be used instead. If you know of a better descriptor to use than what is current present, let us know and we can tell you if it would be good to change the item title or not.

Also, using the term "variant" in an item title will be rejected unless that word actually exists on the item.

Back in 2018, I added the very rare Speed Devils "Clean" Variant for the North American Sega Dreamcast: https://vgcollect.com/item/151251

  • This is the standard release version: https://vgcollect.com/item/8357
  • This is the rare "clean cover" variant (the devil face has been censored): https://vgcollect.com/item/151251

Originally, the standard release was simply named Speed Devils (as is expected), and I named my new variant Speed Devils (clean cover) according to the style guide.

However, I see earlier this year that Admin tripredacus updated the names of both games, changing the variant to simply Speed Devils, and changing the standard release to Speed Devils (devil cover).

This seems odd to me, since I'd think we'd want to highlight the much less common variants and releases with descriptors, and leave the standard release with the standard title.

Was this simply an oversight? If I re-edit the "clean variant" to add a descriptor in parentheses, will it be rejected? Since the Admin was the one who made these changes to both titles, I assume they are the expert and would not want to attempt to overwrite their change, but since it feels "off" I wanted to double check first.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: pajam on December 11, 2020, 03:43:39 pm
Clean is not descriptive enough and it is also a fan term in relation to this game. It is a term to be read as "doesn't have the thing the other version has" and we do not want to be referring to other versions on an entry, at least in this case. So to indicate that the one has a devil on the cover is better, than to have one be marked as "doesn't have a devil on the cover" type of descriptor.

Thanks for the clarification. I thought it might be related to something along those lines, especially based on the Style Guide usually desiring something different ON the cover being included in the descriptor, as opposed to something different NOT ON the cover. So I assume a descriptor like "(censored)" or anything along those lines would fall into the same camp? Especially since we don't have any "proof" that's why the variant exists, and only have evidence of Wal-Mart receipts and Wal-Mart devil/demon censorship guidelines of the time.

It makes sense in that technical way, even if it does feel a bit "off" to add descriptors to the standard release and none to the the more oddball variants. I personally got confused when I saw the updated titles and forgot which was the standard release for a bit until I googled it a bunch, which made me reach out for clarification.

Also, using the term "variant" in an item title will be rejected unless that word actually exists on the item.

I saw that in the style guide and also assumed as much simply based on existing descriptors already on site. So I avoided a "generic" descriptor like that.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on December 11, 2020, 03:56:48 pm
Yes the backwards nature of how the two entries look is also unfortunate. It happens a lot in recent times when the "clean version" is actually a reprint and not the initial (more common) release.

And as any collection site staff will tell you, you can't use pop to determine what is and what isn't common. The simple fact is that we do not require our users to be correct, or to prove what they actually have. So anyone can say they have something they don't. Even on other sites I am on, there are some items that are in more collections than exist. So I wouldn't put much thought into whether or not a person actually has the thing they marked in their collection. It is up to them about how exact they want to be, it doesn't really matter to us. We just want to make sure the information is correct, what you do with it is your business.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Flashback2012 on December 13, 2020, 06:30:49 pm
Does this entry need to be removed?

Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night Vita [EU]

https://vgcollect.com/item/85473

I had thought that during development they canned the Vita versions of the game.
(https://vgcollect.com/images/gallery/1/18947/2_ezgif-1-1a13ac093785.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: weirdfeline on December 14, 2020, 05:58:55 am
These don't exist physically on PS5:
Destiny 2 Beyond Light
https://vgcollect.com/item/187123

Destiny 2 New Light
https://vgcollect.com/item/184632

Destruction AllStars (pretty sure physical release is cancelled..)
https://vgcollect.com/item/186090

Mass Effect: Legendary Edition
https://vgcollect.com/item/188635

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: rathan77 on December 14, 2020, 06:09:20 pm
Rejected edit to:

High School Musical: Sing It!
https://vgcollect.com/item/103326

Barcode is for EU release:
https://vgcollect.com/item/60580

Not for AU, edits were made to correct barcode and back image.

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on December 16, 2020, 12:37:09 pm
I have a question about the developer for this game that I'm submitting edits for

https://vgcollect.com/item/184813


Obviously the original arcade game was developed by SNK, but this PS4 port was developed by Code Mystics. Publisher is Limited Run. So should the developer be Code Mystics, SNK, or both?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Agozer on December 16, 2020, 04:41:13 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/168918

One TLD in the title is wrong and the title should read: Super Mario Odyssey [FI][NO][SE]

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on December 16, 2020, 04:42:11 pm
I have a question about the developer for this game that I'm submitting edits for

https://vgcollect.com/item/184813

Obviously the original arcade game was developed by SNK, but this PS4 port was developed by Code Mystics. Publisher is Limited Run. So should the developer be Code Mystics, SNK, or both?

From what I read, Code Mystics only made the front end and trophy integration. They did not make the game. It reads like the original ROM is present on the disc. If so then, SNK did not develop this release of the game, Code Mystics did and they are just using SNK assets.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Agozer on December 17, 2020, 01:00:17 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/183258

This entry should have the title "Dragon Quest XI S: Ecos de un Pasado Perdido - Edicion Definitiva" as it is the spanish version. The barcode 5021290088900 matches too.

https://vgcollect.com/item/112038
https://vgcollect.com/item/112037
https://vgcollect.com/item/15211

Please remove the [UK] TLD from the titles.

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on December 18, 2020, 11:02:16 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/183258

This entry should have the title "Dragon Quest XI S: Ecos de un Pasado Perdido - Edicion Definitiva" as it is the spanish version. The barcode 5021290088900 matches too.

https://vgcollect.com/item/112037

Spacebore created a franken entry with that Dragon Quest, by putting incompatible EAN with pictures and title. He will decide how to change the entry.

That Shadow Hearts game is not EU, it is AU. Fixed title, rating and category.
Here's the deal with a release like that. Italy imported that AU release and the only difference between the IT and AU version is that the IT version has the SIAE label on the back. I can confirm this, so the one on the entry missing this label does not have this label so it is not the Italian version. It is likely that the Spanish imported version also has some sort of label that I am going to guess only shows on a sealed copy. None of the ones on Ebay are sealed, and none of the opened ones sold in Spain have the SIAE label.

So this game can have an [IT] entry in EU category if a back art is used that has the SIAE label.
It can have an [ES] entry in EU category if we can determine that there is something that makes it different than the AU version.

Until then, it can exist in the [AU] category. You can add an [IT] version but not put the back image and put into description that the SIAE label is on the back cover.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Agozer on December 18, 2020, 01:39:24 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/183258

This entry should have the title "Dragon Quest XI S: Ecos de un Pasado Perdido - Edicion Definitiva" as it is the spanish version. The barcode 5021290088900 matches too.

https://vgcollect.com/item/112037
That Shadow Hearts game is not EU, it is AU. Fixed title, rating and category.
Here's the deal with a release like that. Italy imported that AU release and the only difference between the IT and AU version is that the IT version has the SIAE label on the back. I can confirm this, so the one on the entry missing this label does not have this label so it is not the Italian version. It is likely that the Spanish imported version also has some sort of label that I am going to guess only shows on a sealed copy. None of the ones on Ebay are sealed, and none of the opened ones sold in Spain have the SIAE label.

So this game can have an [IT] entry in EU category if a back art is used that has the SIAE label.
It can have an [ES] entry in EU category if we can determine that there is something that makes it different than the AU version.

Until then, it can exist in the [AU] category. You can add an [IT] version but not put the back image and put into description that the SIAE label is on the back cover.
My copy has the Sony Computer Entertainment hologram in the bottom-left corner on the back cover, otherwise the back cover is a match. The barcode search gives me Spanish and Italian sites, with no mention of Australia.

I also found an Australian release on eBay Australia with a different barcode (5037930070426) with an MA15+ sticker obscuring the ELSPA rating on the front cover. It's back cover is only in English. So, it is possible that the "official" Australian release is actually the imported English release with the ELSPA rating and they simply slapped their own rating on the front cover?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on December 21, 2020, 10:45:59 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/183258

This entry should have the title "Dragon Quest XI S: Ecos de un Pasado Perdido - Edicion Definitiva" as it is the spanish version. The barcode 5021290088900 matches too.

https://vgcollect.com/item/112037
That Shadow Hearts game is not EU, it is AU. Fixed title, rating and category.
Here's the deal with a release like that. Italy imported that AU release and the only difference between the IT and AU version is that the IT version has the SIAE label on the back. I can confirm this, so the one on the entry missing this label does not have this label so it is not the Italian version. It is likely that the Spanish imported version also has some sort of label that I am going to guess only shows on a sealed copy. None of the ones on Ebay are sealed, and none of the opened ones sold in Spain have the SIAE label.

So this game can have an [IT] entry in EU category if a back art is used that has the SIAE label.
It can have an [ES] entry in EU category if we can determine that there is something that makes it different than the AU version.

Until then, it can exist in the [AU] category. You can add an [IT] version but not put the back image and put into description that the SIAE label is on the back cover.
My copy has the Sony Computer Entertainment hologram in the bottom-left corner on the back cover, otherwise the back cover is a match. The barcode search gives me Spanish and Italian sites, with no mention of Australia.

I also found an Australian release on eBay Australia with a different barcode (5037930070426) with an MA15+ sticker obscuring the ELSPA rating on the front cover. It's back cover is only in English. So, it is possible that the "official" Australian release is actually the imported English release with the ELSPA rating and they simply slapped their own rating on the front cover?

I've typed out many responses and rewrote and deleted them all. For now, the ways we can have an [ES] entry is:
1. There is a sealed copy with some sort of label on it that indicates a release in Spain
2. There is a version that has a Spanish manual or other type insert that is not in the version released in Italy.

I have no doubt this game was sold in Spain, ACB rating and all. Unfortunately, the ACB rating puts it as an AU release and we cannot confirm it wasn't sold in Australia. So it has to be in the AU section and an entry in EU section that is no different would be considered a dupe.

There are also many instances where AU will import a UK or EU game and put a label on it, and then get a printed cover later. Or perhaps the order is different, but basically there are many releases that have a printed/unique cover and a label release... or sometimes AU will import different EU versions and put labels on them.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: koemo1 on December 23, 2020, 02:28:18 pm
Snooker 19
https://vgcollect.com/item/166305

Has been added to the Original Xbox section whilst being an Xbox One title.
(https://vgcollect.com/images/gallery/1/18947/2_ezgif-1-1a13ac093785.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on December 23, 2020, 07:22:22 pm
Nihilumbra - Other (https://vgcollect.com/item/159704)
Submitted as Android title.

(https://vgcollect.com/images/gallery/1/18947/2_ezgif-1-1a13ac093785.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on December 28, 2020, 09:16:55 am
Since we voted on keeping Roman numerals in the name if they're on the box, does that mean that all instances of Kingdom Hearts 1.5, 2.5, 2.8 etc. releases in the db will need to be edited? Just wanted to ask beforehand.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on December 28, 2020, 09:21:04 am
I have a question about the developer for this game that I'm submitting edits for

https://vgcollect.com/item/184813

Obviously the original arcade game was developed by SNK, but this PS4 port was developed by Code Mystics. Publisher is Limited Run. So should the developer be Code Mystics, SNK, or both?

From what I read, Code Mystics only made the front end and trophy integration. They did not make the game. It reads like the original ROM is present on the disc. If so then, SNK did not develop this release of the game, Code Mystics did and they are just using SNK assets.

Okay, I submitted edits to change the developer to Code Mystics :)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on December 28, 2020, 10:39:14 am
Since we voted on keeping Roman numerals in the name if they're on the box, does that mean that all instances of Kingdom Hearts 1.5, 2.5, 2.8 etc. releases in the db will need to be edited? Just wanted to ask beforehand.

If you can show me where it was voted on, we can take a look. IIRC there was discussion and some determinations made around the release of Resident Evil VII, but I believe now that Common Name rules override how we use roman numerals. It was in the Style Guide and the Adv Guide at one point but was removed.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on December 28, 2020, 11:19:07 am
Since we voted on keeping Roman numerals in the name if they're on the box, does that mean that all instances of Kingdom Hearts 1.5, 2.5, 2.8 etc. releases in the db will need to be edited? Just wanted to ask beforehand.

If you can show me where it was voted on, we can take a look. IIRC there was discussion and some determinations made around the release of Resident Evil VII, but I believe now that Common Name rules override how we use roman numerals. It was in the Style Guide and the Adv Guide at one point but was removed.

Yeah now that I'm thinking about it, I don't think we actually had a vote on it. I know the two of us discussed making an exception to the common name rule regarding COD Black Ops 4 but that's all I can remember.

https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,9281.msg179775.html#msg179775
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on December 28, 2020, 11:21:15 am
I knew I had documented that change somewhere. But yeah, that is where roman numerals stand.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on December 28, 2020, 11:23:40 am
Then I'll hold off on submitting any edits until we decide on that as a community. Most of the Kingdom Hearts games would need to be changed since they are titled with Arabic numerals (2.5) in the database despite having a mix of Arabic/Roman numerals on the box (II.5). Though it's not 100% consistent.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on December 28, 2020, 12:05:22 pm
Empty (https://vgcollect.com/item/174797)

Master Rallye - PlayStation 2 [NA] (https://vgcollect.com/item/135728)
No NA release.


(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on January 12, 2021, 11:33:35 am
Empty (https://vgcollect.com/item/174797)

simon keychain - Swag - Toys/Novelties (https://vgcollect.com/item/41721)
Are items like these even allowed here? Seems more like an electronic toy than anything else.

Tell Me Why - Xbox Series X [NA] (https://vgcollect.com/item/188931)
No physical version exists or is reported to be releasing. An entry (https://vgcollect.com/item/190928) for the digital version already is present.


(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on January 19, 2021, 03:50:48 pm
Blank entry https://vgcollect.com/item/193577
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Flashback2012 on January 20, 2021, 07:24:41 am
Couple more blank entries...

https://vgcollect.com/item/193612

https://vgcollect.com/item/193613
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telekill on January 20, 2021, 11:20:53 am
Hello,

I keep trying to update the front image for NFS Hot Pursuit Remastered (PS4 N. America) but most every time I do, the front image gets deleted by an admin. I look at the rules for the front image and then I look at all the image specifications and it looks like it should be fine.

I simply want the image to not be blank as it continues to be. What am I doing wrong with it?

Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on January 20, 2021, 11:37:29 am
Presuming this:
https://vgcollect.com/item/191087

Not just you, but others have tried to submit wrong front cover. And yes you were using stock photo which is normally OK but not when correct back cover is on the entry. The reason for rejection is ESRB on the stock photo is English only, but actual cover has English/French. Blame the guy who uploaded the back art.

Merged into correct thread.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telekill on January 20, 2021, 05:55:00 pm
I just uploaded a new thumbnail image of the cover for the PS4 (N. American) game. The difference between what I was uploading and what is now uploaded is the two unreadable paragraphs above the rating.... one in English.... one in French.

Hopefully that's enough to make the cover stick around.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on January 21, 2021, 09:31:53 am
It is. And stop creating new topics instead of replying into this thread.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: grandta13 on January 22, 2021, 02:13:29 pm
I attempted to edit the box text for Fallout: New Vegas for PS3 (https://vgcollect.com/item/13285), and my edit was rejected. There is no box text present now, but what I believe happened was that there was already text present, which I edited to add additional text from the back of the box, however there was a trade symbol in the original text that I didn't notice until I had already submitted it. I then resubmitted it without the trade symbol present.

The first rejection reason was Incorrect Formatting, which was to be expected due to the trade symbol. The second edit was rejected as Action Not Allowed. I suspect that is a result of the double-edit, but I wanted to verify before I resubmitted the text, in case there was an error in my submission.

The text that I submitted last can be seen below:
Quote
Welcome to Vegas.  New Vegas.
As you battle your way across the heat-blasted Mojave Wastelands to the neon drenched Vegas Strip, you'll be introduced to a colorful cast of characters, factions, special weapons, mutated creatures and much more.  Choose sides in the upcoming war or declare "winner takes all" in this follow-up to the 2008 videogame of the year, Fallout 3.

Enjoy Your Stay.
• Feel the Heat in New Vegas!  Experience the Great Southwest as could only be imagined in Fallout.
• Up the Ante!  New features, weapons, factions and foes await you in Sin City.
• Let it Ride!  In a huge, open world you can explore, choose sides, or go it alone.  Peacemaker or Hard Case, House Rules, or the Wild Card - it's all in how you play the game.

#1 Most Wanted Game of 2010
- IGN

IGN BEST GAME OF E3 2010 WINNER
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: price5474 on January 23, 2021, 02:50:30 pm
Not sure if it can be fixed without uploading new pictures but I noticed that the front and back covers for Legend of Zelda, The: Link's Awakening Original Soundtrack were reversed

https://vgcollect.com/item/178145

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on January 25, 2021, 10:40:48 am
The first reject was because of the trade symbol. I dont know if I saw the second one but that box text looks fine. I have added it to the entry.

I attempted to edit the box text for Fallout: New Vegas for PS3 (https://vgcollect.com/item/13285), and my edit was rejected. There is no box text present now, but what I believe happened was that there was already text present, which I edited to add additional text from the back of the box, however there was a trade symbol in the original text that I didn't notice until I had already submitted it. I then resubmitted it without the trade symbol present.

The first rejection reason was Incorrect Formatting, which was to be expected due to the trade symbol. The second edit was rejected as Action Not Allowed. I suspect that is a result of the double-edit, but I wanted to verify before I resubmitted the text, in case there was an error in my submission.

The text that I submitted last can be seen below:
Quote
Welcome to Vegas.  New Vegas.
As you battle your way across the heat-blasted Mojave Wastelands to the neon drenched Vegas Strip, you'll be introduced to a colorful cast of characters, factions, special weapons, mutated creatures and much more.  Choose sides in the upcoming war or declare "winner takes all" in this follow-up to the 2008 videogame of the year, Fallout 3.

Enjoy Your Stay.
• Feel the Heat in New Vegas!  Experience the Great Southwest as could only be imagined in Fallout.
• Up the Ante!  New features, weapons, factions and foes await you in Sin City.
• Let it Ride!  In a huge, open world you can explore, choose sides, or go it alone.  Peacemaker or Hard Case, House Rules, or the Wild Card - it's all in how you play the game.

#1 Most Wanted Game of 2010
- IGN

IGN BEST GAME OF E3 2010 WINNER
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on January 27, 2021, 11:25:19 am
Empty (https://vgcollect.com/item/193407)

Linux - Hardware [NA] (https://vgcollect.com/item/21580)
An entry for an operating system?

Monster Boy and the Cursed Kingdom - Nintendo Switch [EU] (https://vgcollect.com/item/194226)
No [EU] release.


Seasons of Heaven - Nintendo Switch [EU] (https://vgcollect.com/item/123509)
No release, digital or physical.

Sony PlayStation Vita PCH-1108 - PS Vita Disney Mega Pack - PlayStation Vita Hardware (https://vgcollect.com/item/88168)
Cart/Disc/Media art showcases [AU] voucher.

Super Mario 3 - Game & Watch (https://vgcollect.com/item/178923)
I don't think this released as a Game & Watch title.


(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on January 27, 2021, 12:16:30 pm
Sony PlayStation Vita PCH-1108 - PS Vita Disney Mega Pack - PlayStation Vita Hardware (https://vgcollect.com/item/88168)
Cart/Disc/Media art showcases [AU] voucher.

The media art looks to be original, so we can blame mastafafik for converting an entry and thus, making it a frankenstein.  :(

I cannot find one online (I only looked on Ebay AU) so I have removed the unconfirmed information and the front art.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on January 28, 2021, 01:51:15 pm
Sony PlayStation Vita PCH-1108 - PS Vita Disney Mega Pack - PlayStation Vita Hardware (https://vgcollect.com/item/88168)
Cart/Disc/Media art showcases [AU] voucher.

The media art looks to be original, so we can blame mastafafik for converting an entry and thus, making it a frankenstein.  :(

When I had originally visited this entry, I had replaced the front artwork which I can vouch for but cannot confirm also having a [RU] front cover, which seems to also have been original to the entry. I haven't had any luck in identifying an [AU] release either. However, I have come across online deals that bundle miscellaneous Vita items together to sell—perhaps this is one of those instances.

Also, I haven't found any evidence to there being other [AU] Mega Pack releases, but the PlayStation blog entries I've found for some bundles only mention that the digital vouchers and not the physical bundles are available for Australia, but perhaps the Disney bundle was an outlier for some reason?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on January 29, 2021, 11:27:55 am
Sony PlayStation Vita PCH-1108 - PS Vita Disney Mega Pack - PlayStation Vita Hardware (https://vgcollect.com/item/88168)
Cart/Disc/Media art showcases [AU] voucher.

The media art looks to be original, so we can blame mastafafik for converting an entry and thus, making it a frankenstein.  :(

When I had originally visited this entry, I had replaced the front artwork which I can vouch for but cannot confirm also having a [RU] front cover, which seems to also have been original to the entry. I haven't had any luck in identifying an [AU] release either. However, I have come across online deals that bundle miscellaneous Vita items together to sell—perhaps this is one of those instances.

Also, I haven't found any evidence to there being other [AU] Mega Pack releases, but the PlayStation blog entries I've found for some bundles only mention that the digital vouchers and not the physical bundles are available for Australia, but perhaps the Disney bundle was an outlier for some reason?


OK that is one drawback is that we cannot actually see what was original, only what can be seen on the edit tab. If you can confirm a Russian release, we can change it to RU and remove the cart art. By this I mean no stock photo for front, and at least an EAN.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on January 29, 2021, 12:40:42 pm
OK that is one drawback is that we cannot actually see what was original, only what can be seen on the edit tab. If you can confirm a Russian release, we can change it to RU and remove the cart art. By this I mean no stock photo for front, and at least an EAN.

I've found two (https://videoigry.prom.ua/p29098810-psvita-3gwi-pch.html) sources (https://youla.ru/moskva/hobbi-razvlecheniya/konsoli-igry/ps-vita-5a7c07c7bedcc5264a59147c) that confirm a Russian release. However, even with the two different unboxing videos I was even able to find in addition to the images, no one seems to document the EAN or even show the bottom side of the packaging where the barcode is located.

Although I did find the likely scenario (https://imgur.com/3rqdqYV) as to perhaps why the original entry creator for some reason added the conflicting images. Great related image result.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on February 01, 2021, 10:21:59 am
OK that is one drawback is that we cannot actually see what was original, only what can be seen on the edit tab. If you can confirm a Russian release, we can change it to RU and remove the cart art. By this I mean no stock photo for front, and at least an EAN.

I've found two (https://videoigry.prom.ua/p29098810-psvita-3gwi-pch.html) sources (https://youla.ru/moskva/hobbi-razvlecheniya/konsoli-igry/ps-vita-5a7c07c7bedcc5264a59147c) that confirm a Russian release. However, even with the two different unboxing videos I was even able to find in addition to the images, no one seems to document the EAN or even show the bottom side of the packaging where the barcode is located.

Although I did find the likely scenario (https://imgur.com/3rqdqYV) as to perhaps why the original entry creator for some reason added the conflicting images. Great related image result.


OK back to Russian release. At lease we can know that one exists.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: grandta13 on February 02, 2021, 03:58:54 pm
HSV Adventure Racing for the N64 is currently categorised as Nintendo 64 [EU], while it should be Nintendo 64 [AU], as it was an Australia-only release.

https://vgcollect.com/item/54180

EDIT: For some reason I didn't think to submit the edit to the item directly, as I just assumed a platform change would require admin intervention. I've submitted the change request normally now.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on February 03, 2021, 10:15:41 am
HSV Adventure Racing for the N64 is currently categorised as Nintendo 64 [EU], while it should be Nintendo 64 [AU], as it was an Australia-only release.

https://vgcollect.com/item/54180

EDIT: For some reason I didn't think to submit the edit to the item directly, as I just assumed a platform change would require admin intervention. I've submitted the change request normally now.

It really depends. If the item is obviously in the wrong category, then an edit would be enough. This one is, item number original to entry, clearly is AU release. Most of the time, category changes do get rejected but it is usually due to users trying to convert entries.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: grandta13 on February 03, 2021, 11:32:09 am
I submitted a series of edits to "High Frequency Video Game System Cleaning Kit (https://vgcollect.com/item/42776)", some of which were rejected.

item_number
Old Value:  SKN 358967
New Value: HF. 014
Rejection Reason: Action Not Allowed.
Edit Reason: Item number on spine is different, as seen here:
(https://i.imgur.com/UXojLUV.jpg)

Image
Old Value:
(https://i.imgur.com/vy3UbjP.jpg)
New Value:
(https://i.imgur.com/h7lBafv.jpg)
Rejection Reason: Incorrect Box Art.
Edit Reason: Old image was photo of crumpled cover. New image was higher-quality scan.


image_back
Old Value:
(https://i.imgur.com/kg7BzHy.jpg)
New Value:
(https://i.imgur.com/IUcoCiJ.jpg)
Rejection Reason: Incorrect Box Art.
Edit Reason: Old image was photo of crumpled cover. New image was higher-quality scan.

cart_art
Old Value:
(https://i.imgur.com/MVpHOLw.jpg)
New Value:
(https://i.imgur.com/FYwXwKV.jpg)
Rejection Reason: Incorrect Box Art.
Edit Reason: Old image did not include all contents. Image on back cover also confirms this. New photo included all contents photographed on a white background.

EDIT: I also tried to remove the Publisher, as according to current guidelines that field should be blank for hardware and accessories. However, either the change did not submit, or the change request has not been reviewed yet.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on February 03, 2021, 12:07:54 pm
Rejected due to item conversion. Your item has two things that the existing entry does not:
1. Starburst label with "Now cleans Super Nintendo"
2. Patent text on back in black ink

Make a new entry and use (Now Cleans Super Nintendo) descriptor.

Quote
I also tried to remove the Publisher, as according to current guidelines that field should be blank for hardware and accessories. However, either the change did not submit, or the change request has not been reviewed yet.

It is a bug with the site. Can't set zero publisher at this time. In future, just make sure to not set it for hardware or accessories.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: grandta13 on February 03, 2021, 12:55:18 pm
Rejected due to item conversion. Your item has two things that the existing entry does not:
1. Starburst label with "Now cleans Super Nintendo"
2. Patent text on back in black ink

Make a new entry and use (Now Cleans Super Nintendo) descriptor.


That's fair; somehow I didn't notice that the original didn't have the starburst sticker. Though I would still propose updating the item number. The item number can be seen to be the same from the existing photos.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on February 03, 2021, 02:25:13 pm
Sony PlayStation Vita PCH-1108 - PS Vita Disney Mega Pack - PlayStation Vita Hardware (https://vgcollect.com/item/88168)
Cart/Disc/Media art showcases [AU] voucher.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on February 04, 2021, 10:10:50 am
Sony PlayStation Vita PCH-1108 - PS Vita Disney Mega Pack - PlayStation Vita Hardware (https://vgcollect.com/item/88168)
Cart/Disc/Media art showcases [AU] voucher.

It is gone now.
It was actually the back art.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: grandta13 on February 04, 2021, 12:50:57 pm
The entry for the Sega Genesis 3-button black controller has the wrong image for the controller. The box is correct, but the item image shows the European model. It even says 'Mega Drive Control Pad' at the top.

Sega Control Pad (black letters) [US]: https://vgcollect.com/item/16343

There is already an entry for the European model as well:
Sega Control Pad (black letters) [EU] - https://vgcollect.com/item/166908

Additional source with high-res images: https://segaretro.org/Control_Pad_(Mega_Drive) (https://segaretro.org/Control_Pad_(Mega_Drive))
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on February 05, 2021, 10:19:38 am
Loost controller (cart) art removed from 16343

Thanks for pointing it out, it was not immediately obvious why you were attempting to update the image.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: weirdfeline on February 12, 2021, 07:25:40 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/182485

Why is this being rejected? It shouldn't be in the game section.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on February 12, 2021, 09:52:39 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/182485

Why is this being rejected? It shouldn't be in the game section.

Games with Accessories or Accessories with Games
The community has decided that all accessories with games or games with accessories should be put into the appropriate games category for a platform. So it does not matter if the accessory or the game title has more prevalence on the box design, it will be considered a game.
Items of this nature that include download codes for games, but no physical games, are also to be put into the game category.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: weirdfeline on February 12, 2021, 10:45:19 pm
So when will PS VR be considered hardware instead of an accessory?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on February 12, 2021, 11:06:21 pm
So when will PS VR be considered hardware instead of an accessory?

I've asked a similar question before. I didn't get a formal answer necessarily, but I imagine the answer given is what's currently agreed upon.

I didn't see any discussion in this thread about adding a PlayStation VR category listing to be added, so maybe this could put into consideration. There are a considerable number of titles that aren't just VR-compatible but require VR. I don't think that this (https://www.game.co.uk/en/m/games/playstation-4-ps4-games/playstation-vr-games/full-games?cm_sp=PSVR-_-Category-_-AllGames) is an exhaustive list since it shows only PAL releases, but it seems to show a healthy amount of titles that could be representative of all TLD releases.

I could be wrong about this, but all these games are still PS4 games and require the PS4 to play them. Playstation VR is an accessory to the PS4, not a console itself.

While that is a good point, the database has individual category listings for the Sega CD, Turbografx-CD, etc. already. To me, PlayStation VR is on equal footing with listings like these.

Sure, but that's a change in the media type. An admin can correct me if I'm wrong, but categories in the DB are split by platform, then further differentiated by media type (disc, cartridge, digital, floppy disc, cassette, etc.) All PSVR games are either disc or digital, and all are played on the PS4 console, so another category isn't necessary. They would just go in PS4 disc or digital. It's about the format the data are on.

The only exception to that is the PS1/PS2 classics category, which I asked to have removed/addressed a long time ago (it's still in Jason's to do list to fix it iirc).
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on February 14, 2021, 10:46:07 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/76903

Can this listing be removed. This demo came in the Dragon Quest VIII PS2 game and was never sold in it's own packaging.

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on February 15, 2021, 10:22:08 am
So when will PS VR be considered hardware instead of an accessory?

When there is a PS VR release that does not require a console to play the game.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: leonefamily on February 15, 2021, 12:07:22 pm
Just got a rejected edit so I guess I'll have to explain why I submitted the edit.

This is Call of Duty: World At War: Final Fronts for PS2 (american version): https://www.vgcollect.com/item/19797
This is Call of Duty: World At War: Final Fronts for PS2 ("latin" version): https://vgcollect.com/item/195239

I submitted an edit to the first game, since it is showing the wrong item number and barcode, which is from the latin version. I had in my hands a true american version and can confirm that the item number and barcode is different. But the edit was rejected.

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on February 16, 2021, 10:01:54 am
Just got a rejected edit so I guess I'll have to explain why I submitted the edit.

This is Call of Duty: World At War: Final Fronts for PS2 (american version): https://www.vgcollect.com/item/19797
This is Call of Duty: World At War: Final Fronts for PS2 ("latin" version): https://vgcollect.com/item/195239

I submitted an edit to the first game, since it is showing the wrong item number and barcode, which is from the latin version. I had in my hands a true american version and can confirm that the item number and barcode is different. But the edit was rejected.

Edits rejected due to attempted item conversion. As you can see in history, the item number and barcode on 19797 are original to the entry, but the title and arts were wrong. Your new item has been merged as dupe and 19797 was fixed. If this means then that the US version is not in the db, then you can add it.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: leonefamily on February 16, 2021, 12:48:10 pm
Edits rejected due to attempted item conversion. As you can see in history, the item number and barcode on 19797 are original to the entry, but the title and arts were wrong. Your new item has been merged as dupe and 19797 was fixed. If this means then that the US version is not in the db, then you can add it.

Okay thanks trip. I thought the title was to be treated as prioritary over stuff like item number and barcodes, since most people just look up the title and don't bother to check other release info, therefore we can assume that most people who put this item in their collection actually had the US version, not the "Latin" [CA][MX] one. But thanks, I'll keep that in mind, in the future, to consider barcodes and item numbers as the priority over the title and box art.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on February 17, 2021, 09:39:15 am
I thought the title was to be treated as prioritary over stuff like item number and barcodes, since most people just look up the title and don't bother to check other release info

When adding to collection, yes this is typically how people do it. When adding to the DB, it is the other way around. The original "Data" is always the most important, with the barcode being most important if it was original to the entry.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: weirdfeline on February 18, 2021, 09:59:01 am
Metroid Prime 4
https://vgcollect.com/item/127014

I tried changing the rating to Rating Pending since thats's what the current image shows as well as the latest development update video from Nintendo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLIv_UXI_So
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on February 18, 2021, 10:18:20 am
Metroid Prime 4
https://vgcollect.com/item/127014

I tried changing the rating to Rating Pending since thats's what the current image shows as well as the latest development update video from Nintendo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLIv_UXI_So

From the advanced guide:

Quote
Physical Items: rating should be set if a rating exists on the item.

The item you tried to set the rating on does not yet exist. In other words, do not set the rating based on the pre-sale stock photo on entries like this. Wait until the rating or the product is released before putting a rating on it. Many people who make these entries for physical items before they exist set the RP and then it is forgotten forever and we end up with a bunch of entries for released items with the wrong ratings on them.

Remember that entries in physical game categories are for the physical objects themselves, not for the game data included on the disc or cartridge. This game data Metroid Prime 4 is what is currently rated RP. There is no rating on the physical release because there is no physical release. The thing shown in the pre-release mockup/stock photo is not the final product and will not be sold as such.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: weirdfeline on February 18, 2021, 10:30:34 am
Metroid Prime 4
https://vgcollect.com/item/127014

I tried changing the rating to Rating Pending since thats's what the current image shows as well as the latest development update video from Nintendo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLIv_UXI_So

From the advanced guide:

Quote
Physical Items: rating should be set if a rating exists on the item.

The item you tried to set the rating on does not yet exist. In other words, do not set the rating based on the pre-sale stock photo on entries like this. Wait until the rating or the product is released before putting a rating on it. Many people who make these entries for physical items before they exist set the RP and then it is forgotten forever and we end up with a bunch of entries for released items with the wrong ratings on them.

Remember that entries in physical game categories are for the physical objects themselves, not for the game data included on the disc or cartridge. This game data Metroid Prime 4 is what is currently rated RP. There is no rating on the physical release because there is no physical release. The thing shown in the pre-release mockup/stock photo is not the final product and will not be sold as such.
Wouldn't the rating just be updated to the final rating along with the rest of the information in the listing when the game releases?

I don't really see how being physical makes a difference. The case isn't being rated, the game data is. Seems like it would make the most sense to keep everything in the listing up to date as possible.

What instance would the RP rating be used? On digital items only?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on February 18, 2021, 11:28:25 am
Wouldn't the rating just be updated to the final rating along with the rest of the information in the listing when the game releases?

I don't really see how being physical makes a difference. The case isn't being rated, the game data is. Seems like it would make the most sense to keep everything in the listing up to date as possible.

What instance would the RP rating be used? On digital items only?

First I want to point out that I did the reject to initiate a discussion about it.

The rating should be updated but it is usually not. I am talking about all the users who make items in the db. Most do not revisit an item they made, or owned, in order to update the information. So for a physical release that has an entry made before the physical release actually exists, this results in an entry for a physical item with the wrong rating. Because the person who made or edited the entry originally to put RP onto it, did not change the rating once the thing actually came into being. It is preferable to not have a rating on an item than to have the incorrect rating.

Entries in the physical game categories are not actually for games, they are for products. For these items, the ratings drop down should only be used if a rating is printed on the physical item itself. If you wanted to note that the game data has a rating when the packaging/media does not, or that it has a different rating than what is represented, that type of information can be put into the description. Even in that scenario, ESRB RP would not be allowed into description because the physical release does not exist, thus it cannot include game data. So we aren't concerned with what is actually being rated, only if a rating exists on the item, then we set that rating in the drop-down. And then this also means you can set ratings for this like strategy guides or anything else that have a rating on them, even thought we know the book isn't rated, but they are advertising the rating for the game the book is based on.

For entries for physical items, ESRB RP should only be set for items that have an ESRB RP printed on the case or media. Usually you only see these on demos or betas. For entries of digital games, ESRB RP can be set for any digital game on a platform that shows that rating. But the same logic should apply here as well. If that digital game gets released and the rating is different, then why bother setting the ESRB RP rating on it in the first place? Why are we bothering to input data into our database that we know is going to be incorrect in the future?

So this comes down to two things:
1. We do not really care what is rated. If the thing has a rating on it: put it on the entry. If it doesn't, don't put anything.
2. We currently allow for people to make entries for things that do not exist, but are planned to exist. We allow the use of pre-release mockups for images if that is the only image that can be found.
3. We are not creating entries for mockup photos. Whatever rating is present on the mockup is irrelevant. It is only there until a better picture is made available.
4. We should not put information onto an entry that we know is or will be incorrect.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: weirdfeline on February 18, 2021, 08:45:27 pm
Wouldn't the rating just be updated to the final rating along with the rest of the information in the listing when the game releases?

I don't really see how being physical makes a difference. The case isn't being rated, the game data is. Seems like it would make the most sense to keep everything in the listing up to date as possible.

What instance would the RP rating be used? On digital items only?

First I want to point out that I did the reject to initiate a discussion about it.

The rating should be updated but it is usually not. I am talking about all the users who make items in the db. Most do not revisit an item they made, or owned, in order to update the information. So for a physical release that has an entry made before the physical release actually exists, this results in an entry for a physical item with the wrong rating. Because the person who made or edited the entry originally to put RP onto it, did not change the rating once the thing actually came into being. It is preferable to not have a rating on an item than to have the incorrect rating.

Entries in the physical game categories are not actually for games, they are for products. For these items, the ratings drop down should only be used if a rating is printed on the physical item itself. If you wanted to note that the game data has a rating when the packaging/media does not, or that it has a different rating than what is represented, that type of information can be put into the description. Even in that scenario, ESRB RP would not be allowed into description because the physical release does not exist, thus it cannot include game data. So we aren't concerned with what is actually being rated, only if a rating exists on the item, then we set that rating in the drop-down. And then this also means you can set ratings for this like strategy guides or anything else that have a rating on them, even thought we know the book isn't rated, but they are advertising the rating for the game the book is based on.

For entries for physical items, ESRB RP should only be set for items that have an ESRB RP printed on the case or media. Usually you only see these on demos or betas. For entries of digital games, ESRB RP can be set for any digital game on a platform that shows that rating. But the same logic should apply here as well. If that digital game gets released and the rating is different, then why bother setting the ESRB RP rating on it in the first place? Why are we bothering to input data into our database that we know is going to be incorrect in the future?

So this comes down to two things:
1. We do not really care what is rated. If the thing has a rating on it: put it on the entry. If it doesn't, don't put anything.
2. We currently allow for people to make entries for things that do not exist, but are planned to exist. We allow the use of pre-release mockups for images if that is the only image that can be found.
3. We are not creating entries for mockup photos. Whatever rating is present on the mockup is irrelevant. It is only there until a better picture is made available.
4. We should not put information onto an entry that we know is or will be incorrect.
Still doesn't make much sense. With your fourth point the release type category is frequently changed from Official Release (Upcoming) to Official Release and is much more noticeable than the rating is yet still many entries aren't updated to reflect the change in release type.

I'll just stop using RP though.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: 8awd231 on February 26, 2021, 10:12:30 am
Sine Mora Ex:
https://vgcollect.com/item/195878 (https://vgcollect.com/item/195878)

This does not exist on the epic games store as far as I can tell. I am in the US so if it is on the store in another country then maybe. But I kinda doubt it.

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: n64ra on February 26, 2021, 10:33:26 am
Two versions of Switch The Mummy Demastered. Both deserve a description in the title like all other LRG releases available direct and BB. Editing existing one rejected. Suggest fixing.

https://www.vgcollect.com/item/195779

https://www.vgcollect.com/item/195231
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on February 26, 2021, 12:19:26 pm
Two versions of Switch The Mummy Demastered. Both deserve a description in the title like all other LRG releases available direct and BB. Editing existing one rejected. Suggest fixing.

https://www.vgcollect.com/item/195779

https://www.vgcollect.com/item/195231

Descriptor was rejected due to formatting (capitalisation of words not present on item).
Updated descriptor on 195779. Use that as a guide to submit the edit.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: koemo1 on March 05, 2021, 10:08:33 am
I accidentally added this game to the European CD-i section while it should be in the Japanese CD-i section.
Could this be changed?

https://vgcollect.com/item/196395

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: pzeke on March 09, 2021, 02:18:56 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/49821

The front image is actually from the manual, which seems to have been edited. Other than what appears to be a custom-made cover and one that's watermarked, I can't seem to find an image of the front cover, or at least not one in decent quality.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on March 09, 2021, 09:23:54 am
Art was replaced by vivigamer. Confirmed via Ebay.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: pzeke on March 09, 2021, 12:08:47 pm
Cheers, vivi.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: vivigamer on March 09, 2021, 04:41:47 pm
No probs! Seeing manuals as covers is a pet peeve of mine - Many PS1 Manuals just take the main cover on front but I can always tell the difference because the space for the hologram sticker isn't there, so it's something I look out for.

Usually go to Gamefaqs or Mobygames but neither had it, so luckily found one on eBay :)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on March 11, 2021, 06:58:02 pm
Blank entry: https://vgcollect.com/item/196737

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: kevininja on March 13, 2021, 08:05:40 am
Escape from Tethys - Nintendo eShop (Switch) [EU]
https://vgcollect.com/item/189530

Can't find anything about an European release for this game, only the US.
(https://vgcollect.com/images/gallery/1/18947/2_ezgif-1-1a13ac093785.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on March 13, 2021, 09:48:39 pm
I'm curious as to why an original entry I had proposed edits for was deleted (https://i.imgur.com/qix6iRc.jpeg) within the last three hours. Impara con Pokémon: Avventura Tra I Tasti is very much a real item (https://www.ebay.it/itm/IMPARA-CON-I-POKEMON-avventura-tra-i-tasti-NINTENDO-3DS-DS-nuovo-TASTIERA/333285572666). The entry was newly created by brand new user attila who has joined only just today.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on March 15, 2021, 10:58:21 am
Unfortunately, we do not have a way to know if that entry was merged or deleted, or by who.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on March 15, 2021, 12:29:13 pm
Based on the standard EU variant now being in attila's collection, I would assume that the entry was merged. As far as by who, activity times make that deduction fairly easy, but I'm not here to try to point fingers at anyone while instead just asking why it was merged to begin with. That this ordeal involved a perfectly acceptable entry created by a brand new user on their first day was bothersome to me is all.

Impara con Pokémon: Avventura Tra I Tasti (https://vgcollect.com/item/196897)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: aliensstudios on March 15, 2021, 12:38:00 pm
Based on the standard EU variant now being in attila's collection, I would assume that the entry was merged. As far as by who, activity times make that deduction fairly easy, but I'm not here to try to point fingers at anyone while instead just asking why it was merged to begin with. That this ordeal involved a perfectly acceptable entry created by a brand new user on their first day was bothersome to me is all.

Impara con Pokémon: Avventura Tra I Tasti (https://vgcollect.com/item/196897)

It was merged. Before your edits were seen it was titled: "Learn with Pokémon: Typing Adventure" which is the same as this item: 34382 - so it got merged with that item. The entry was not "perfectly acceptable" until you edited it, but by the time your edits were seen, the item was already merged. It's an honest mistake.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: 62gaming on March 16, 2021, 04:15:47 am
I try to only use my own images but I noticed that Pokemon: Edicion Roja (https://vgcollect.com/item/134810) had the wrong box art, it's currently using the Latin American variant as opposed to the Spanish one so I uploaded the correct images, which are pending.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on March 16, 2021, 11:06:21 am
I try to only use my own images but I noticed that Pokemon: Edicion Roja (https://vgcollect.com/item/134810) had the wrong box art, it's currently using the Latin American variant as opposed to the Spanish one so I uploaded the correct images, which are pending.

That is an example of where someone added a NA game to EU category. So it has been moved to NA category and merged with the dupe you made. You can add the EU version now since it is missing.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on March 17, 2021, 05:46:37 pm
Empty (https://vgcollect.com/item/195145)

Danchi Wife - Hitozuma Nude Model no Kenshin - PC [JP] (https://vgcollect.com/item/29239)[/url]
Self-censorship.

Makai (18+) - PC [JP] (https://vgcollect.com/item/22669)[/url]
Self-censorship.

Manguri (18+) - PC [JP] (https://vgcollect.com/item/22668)[/url]
Self-censorship.

Star Fox - Super Nintendo [NA]
1 (https://vgcollect.com/item/134865), 2 (https://vgcollect.com/item/196559)
Shouldn't these both be merged with 128810 (https://vgcollect.com/item/128110)?

Swan Song (18+) - PC [JP] (https://vgcollect.com/item/22668)[/url]
Self-censorship.

Watch Dogs: Legion - Xbox One [NA] (https://vgcollect.com/item/163969)
Standard version released exclusively for Xbox Series X (https://vgcollect.com/item/190342).

Welcome Park - PlayStation Vita [EU] (https://vgcollect.com/item/196796)[/url]
Pre-installed software.

Windows PC - Hardware [EU] (https://vgcollect.com/item/99572)[/url]


(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on March 18, 2021, 10:53:32 am
The gray "nsfw" images are not self censorship, they are the "art" on the GameFAQs entries.

Star Fox 2 games are bootlegs. Only merged one. Left the two with actual pictures of different carts (you didn't link the other one). There is a few "limited" releases but those are not in the db currently.

Notice that users tend to set release type as "Unreleased" or "Homebrew" for bootleg games.

Watch Dogs Legion is an Xbox One game optimized for Xbox Series X. So the dupe has been merged and moved into Xbox One category. I put in the relevant box text.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on March 18, 2021, 05:03:20 pm
Watch Dogs Legion is an Xbox One game optimized for Xbox Series X. So the dupe has been merged and moved into Xbox One category. I put in the relevant box text.

Quote
For use only with Xbox One or newer consoles with optical drive.

Should all Xbox titles with this information on the packaging be classified as Xbox One then? Of the titles currently in the Xbox Series X [NA] category, 17 other entries are like this. Meanwhile, 4 items in the category instead clearly state "For use only with Xbox Series X consoles." The remaining entries are upcoming releases.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: price5474 on March 19, 2021, 01:02:31 am
Oops I submitted a game disc image for this version of Alice Madness Returns (https://vgcollect.com/item/16727) and just realized I pick the wrong one.  It should be for the Canadian version (https://vgcollect.com/item/69323)

If you can switch it over that would be good but if not I'll just resubmit later.

Sorry about that.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on March 19, 2021, 09:41:17 am
Removed disc art from 16727. Resubmit the art to the other entry.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on March 19, 2021, 09:47:13 am
Watch Dogs Legion is an Xbox One game optimized for Xbox Series X. So the dupe has been merged and moved into Xbox One category. I put in the relevant box text.

Quote
For use only with Xbox One or newer consoles with optical drive.

Should all Xbox titles with this information on the packaging be classified as Xbox One then? Of the titles currently in the Xbox Series X [NA] category, 17 other entries are like this. Meanwhile, 4 items in the category instead clearly state "For use only with Xbox Series X consoles." The remaining entries are upcoming releases.

From here:
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10837.msg178154.html#msg178154

Just that Watch Dogs Legion falls under the "Games where another platform is marked as compatible" section and matches to the same situation that The Little Pictures Dark Hope example shows. I think that where the platform/compatibility information is on a cover is going to greatly depend on the publisher. As we have seen some have it right on the front, while on this Watch Dogs game it is kind of hidden on the back, although it does have it on the bullet point.

For XBox One / Xbox One X in generally it would appear that (so far) whether a game is Xbox One with forwards compatibility or is an Xbox Series X with backwards compatibility is signified by which of the two consoles appears "first" on the black box on the front cover.

Gears Tactics (https://vgcollect.com/item/188571) has "Xbox Series X | Xbox One" on the cover
Little Hope (https://vgcollect.com/item/188356) has "Xbox One | Xbox Series X" on the cover

If this order of the consoles on the cover does actually match up to whatever is in the fine print on the back covers (or front covers) then we can instruct people to use that to determine where games should go to make it easier.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on March 19, 2021, 11:04:40 am
Watch Dogs Legion is an Xbox One game optimized for Xbox Series X. So the dupe has been merged and moved into Xbox One category. I put in the relevant box text.

Quote
For use only with Xbox One or newer consoles with optical drive.

Should all Xbox titles with this information on the packaging be classified as Xbox One then? Of the titles currently in the Xbox Series X [NA] category, 17 other entries are like this. Meanwhile, 4 items in the category instead clearly state "For use only with Xbox Series X consoles." The remaining entries are upcoming releases.

From here:
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10837.msg178154.html#msg178154

Just that Watch Dogs Legion falls under the "Games where another platform is marked as compatible" section and matches to the same situation that The Little Pictures Dark Hope example shows. I think that where the platform/compatibility information is on a cover is going to greatly depend on the publisher. As we have seen some have it right on the front, while on this Watch Dogs game it is kind of hidden on the back, although it does have it on the bullet point.

For XBox One / Xbox One X in generally it would appear that (so far) whether a game is Xbox One with forwards compatibility or is an Xbox Series X with backwards compatibility is signified by which of the two consoles appears "first" on the black box on the front cover.

Gears Tactics (https://vgcollect.com/item/188571) has "Xbox Series X | Xbox One" on the cover
Little Hope (https://vgcollect.com/item/188356) has "Xbox One | Xbox Series X" on the cover

If this order of the consoles on the cover does actually match up to whatever is in the fine print on the back covers (or front covers) then we can instruct people to use that to determine where games should go to make it easier.

The back cover for "Xbox Series X | Xbox One"-front cover Gears Tactics features back text (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Gears-Tactics-XBOX-ONE-XBOX-Series-X-NEW/363316424015?epid=5042566506) "For use only with Xbox One or newer consoles with optical drive." Example 2 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Little-Nightmares-II-XBOX-ONE-XBOX-SERIES-X-NEW/154332011532?epid=25042937368&hash=item23eee79c0c:g:C1gAAOSw-JBgKd~N). Example 3 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Call-of-Duty-Black-Ops-Cold-War-Xbox-Series-X-2020-NEW-SEALED/224390577791?epid=6042571445&hash=item343eb87e7f:g:6pAAAOSw8bhgUrkY). Example 4 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Falconeer-Day-One-Edition-Xbox-One-Xbox-Series-X/254839969486?hash=item3b55a556ce:g:sokAAOSws19gCI7h).

Since identifying the four items I mentioned in my previous post that feature back text "For use only with Xbox Series X consoles," I'm now also realizing that they all four strictly only feature "Xbox Series X" on the front cover label. Example 1 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Overcooked-All-You-Can-Eat-XBOX-SERIES-X-Remastered-New-Factory-Sealed/233884928666). Example 2 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Xbox-Series-X-Madden-NFL-21-Next-Level-Edition-Brand-New-Sealed-NXT-LVL/284159480485?epid=16042944608&hash=item42293992a5:g:Ns8AAOSwryRgDd5Y). Example 3 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Devil-May-Cry-5-Special-Edition-Xbox-Series-X-BRAND-NEW/393050283315?hash=item5b839f5d33:g:wqwAAOSwy41f0VAx). Example 4 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Warhammer-Chaosbane-Slayer-Edition-Xbox-Series-X-BRAND-NEW/233823924483?hash=item3670fdf103:g:h-kAAOSw-u9f2kgH).

So, it seems that only Xbox titles that strictly are only labeled as "Xbox Series X" should be categorized as Xbox Series X. Right?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on March 19, 2021, 12:53:04 pm
Watch Dogs Legion is an Xbox One game optimized for Xbox Series X. So the dupe has been merged and moved into Xbox One category. I put in the relevant box text.

Quote
For use only with Xbox One or newer consoles with optical drive.

Should all Xbox titles with this information on the packaging be classified as Xbox One then? Of the titles currently in the Xbox Series X [NA] category, 17 other entries are like this. Meanwhile, 4 items in the category instead clearly state "For use only with Xbox Series X consoles." The remaining entries are upcoming releases.

From here:
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10837.msg178154.html#msg178154

Just that Watch Dogs Legion falls under the "Games where another platform is marked as compatible" section and matches to the same situation that The Little Pictures Dark Hope example shows. I think that where the platform/compatibility information is on a cover is going to greatly depend on the publisher. As we have seen some have it right on the front, while on this Watch Dogs game it is kind of hidden on the back, although it does have it on the bullet point.

For XBox One / Xbox One X in generally it would appear that (so far) whether a game is Xbox One with forwards compatibility or is an Xbox Series X with backwards compatibility is signified by which of the two consoles appears "first" on the black box on the front cover.

Gears Tactics (https://vgcollect.com/item/188571) has "Xbox Series X | Xbox One" on the cover
Little Hope (https://vgcollect.com/item/188356) has "Xbox One | Xbox Series X" on the cover

If this order of the consoles on the cover does actually match up to whatever is in the fine print on the back covers (or front covers) then we can instruct people to use that to determine where games should go to make it easier.

The back cover for "Xbox Series X | Xbox One"-front cover Gears Tactics features back text (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Gears-Tactics-XBOX-ONE-XBOX-Series-X-NEW/363316424015?epid=5042566506) "For use only with Xbox One or newer consoles with optical drive." Example 2 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Little-Nightmares-II-XBOX-ONE-XBOX-SERIES-X-NEW/154332011532?epid=25042937368&hash=item23eee79c0c:g:C1gAAOSw-JBgKd~N). Example 3 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Call-of-Duty-Black-Ops-Cold-War-Xbox-Series-X-2020-NEW-SEALED/224390577791?epid=6042571445&hash=item343eb87e7f:g:6pAAAOSw8bhgUrkY). Example 4 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Falconeer-Day-One-Edition-Xbox-One-Xbox-Series-X/254839969486?hash=item3b55a556ce:g:sokAAOSws19gCI7h).

Since identifying the four items I mentioned in my previous post that feature back text "For use only with Xbox Series X consoles," I'm now also realizing that they all four strictly only feature "Xbox Series X" on the front cover label. Example 1 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Overcooked-All-You-Can-Eat-XBOX-SERIES-X-Remastered-New-Factory-Sealed/233884928666). Example 2 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Xbox-Series-X-Madden-NFL-21-Next-Level-Edition-Brand-New-Sealed-NXT-LVL/284159480485?epid=16042944608&hash=item42293992a5:g:Ns8AAOSwryRgDd5Y). Example 3 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Devil-May-Cry-5-Special-Edition-Xbox-Series-X-BRAND-NEW/393050283315?hash=item5b839f5d33:g:wqwAAOSwy41f0VAx). Example 4 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Warhammer-Chaosbane-Slayer-Edition-Xbox-Series-X-BRAND-NEW/233823924483?hash=item3670fdf103:g:h-kAAOSw-u9f2kgH).

So, it seems that only Xbox titles that strictly are only labeled as "Xbox Series X" should be categorized as Xbox Series X. Right?


It is looking that way. :\

I really wish we had a better way of being able to organize these things that didn't rely on us having to peg them into a single category.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: pzeke on March 19, 2021, 05:56:27 pm
I really wish we had a better way of being able to organize these things that didn't rely on us having to peg them into a single category.

These type of releases could be categorized under the console they're for, and have it so that they could also go under the second platform they're playable on. In other words, have "Little Hope" go under both "Xbox One [NA]" and "Xbox Series X [NA]", as in the entry showing it's for both.

In the end, though, this is another instance where the description could easily show this information.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Flashback2012 on March 20, 2021, 10:02:18 am
Ni No Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch (this one is a goof on my part as I submitted the wrong Item Number for my edit but the item number listed does not appear on the packaging and has dashes)
https://vgcollect.com/item/163228

Sayonara Wild Hearts
https://vgcollect.com/item/167346

Table Top Racing: Nitro Edition
https://vgcollect.com/item/191979

Rejected edits on these three for item numbers. Edits removed dashes that DO NOT appear on the packaging (dashes only show on carts). Double checked the Style Guide to be sure and saw this...

The item number is for an identifying number that exists on the packaging.
It should be enters as it appears with exception to Sony item numbers which must follow this format: XXXX-NNNNN, using the hyphen even if it is not present.

Maybe an Oxford comma might help or perhaps break that down into two sentences? I read it as only Sony BLUS/SLUS/Etc. get the hyphen but all others don't unless it appears that way.

Sisters Royale (EU)
https://vgcollect.com/item/187960

Lode Runner Legacy (EU)
https://vgcollect.com/item/187161

Rejections on these item numbers are a little more peculiar as I wasn't completely sure which Item number is the "parent" one. I tried adding the TSA-HAC one in the Description field for Sisters Royale and swapping/adding it for Lode Runner but those got rejected. The regular HAC with dashes for Sisters Royale got approved. I went and looked at other SLG titles in my collection and it's a mix of the TSA-HAC, regular, or no Item number.

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Flashback2012 on March 20, 2021, 10:15:42 am
Also, I received an e-mail a little bit ago about release dates for LRG titles. I looked over the Style Guide and it DOES make mention that we're not supposed to put initial available as the release date but in the case of these niche online sellers I think an exception should be made. I imagine that will go over with mods about as well as a fart in church and I can't recall any major discussion about this (honestly I didn't dig too deep  :P).

Point being, we'll NEVER be able to have accurate to-the-day releases for these unless we're able to pester those publishers for the exact days when they started shipping product out (if they even have that info, tell us to pound sand, or even respond to begin with). Seems like it would a LOT less hassle if we went by first available date (which alot of us can verify using e-mails from order confirmations) but again...I'm fully anticipating a fart-in-church response.  :P

Bearing that in mind, their whole line (along with SLG/SRG/Hard Copy, Iam8bit and damn near all the others) will need edits to blank out the Month/Day and leave only the year as that's the only one we can be certain of. It's going to make for a bunch of now incomplete entries but them's the breaks, right?  :-*
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on March 20, 2021, 11:30:03 am
Point being, we'll NEVER be able to have accurate to-the-day releases for these unless we're able to pester those publishers for the exact days when they started shipping product out (if they even have that info, tell us to pound sand, or even respond to begin with). Seems like it would a LOT less hassle if we went by first available date (which alot of us can verify using e-mails from order confirmations) but again...I'm fully anticipating a fart-in-church response.  :P

Bearing that in mind, their whole line (along with SLG/SRG/Hard Copy, Iam8bit and damn near all the others) will need edits to blank out the Month/Day and leave only the year as that's the only one we can be certain of. It's going to make for a bunch of now incomplete entries but them's the breaks, right?  :-*

This exchange (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,9258.msg179169.html#msg179169) and the post directly responding to it (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,9258.msg179191.html#msg179191) explain what information to supply for entries relating to online-exclusive titles that ship out at later dates. In short—if you don't know the specific date for which an item has been released, don't enter information into the field. That being said, all of these entries can still have be supplied with Month and Year information as they do eventually ship, which, honestly, is sufficient information for most items. This is better than entering blatant wrong information.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on March 22, 2021, 10:44:08 am
Sisters Royale (EU)
https://vgcollect.com/item/187960

Lode Runner Legacy (EU)
https://vgcollect.com/item/187161

Rejections on these item numbers are a little more peculiar as I wasn't completely sure which Item number is the "parent" one. I tried adding the TSA-HAC one in the Description field for Sisters Royale and swapping/adding it for Lode Runner but those got rejected. The regular HAC with dashes for Sisters Royale got approved. I went and looked at other SLG titles in my collection and it's a mix of the TSA-HAC, regular, or no Item number.

Using Sisters Royale for example, the two numbers are:
HAC-P-APR3D
TSA-HAC-APR3E-UKV

In this case, the one with the country code should be used. It was a long agreed upon (unwritten) rule to use the one with the country code, and it is in the Adv Guide although perhaps it isn't fully clear.

See "Items with multiple item numbers on the back"
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10837.msg178223.html#msg178223
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Flashback2012 on March 22, 2021, 12:47:27 pm
This exchange (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,9258.msg179169.html#msg179169) and the post directly responding to it (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,9258.msg179191.html#msg179191) explain what information to supply for entries relating to online-exclusive titles that ship out at later dates. In short—if you don't know the specific date for which an item has been released, don't enter information into the field. That being said, all of these entries can still have be supplied with Month and Year information as they do eventually ship, which, honestly, is sufficient information for most items. This is better than entering blatant wrong information.

Admittedly it was a shaky argument at best and I know it's basically swimming upstream at this point so no real sense in pushing further and settling for "sufficient". Now I'll get to see how many rejected edits there are when I try to remove the "Day" from entries.  :P  ;)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Flashback2012 on March 22, 2021, 12:52:31 pm
Using Sisters Royale for example, the two numbers are:
HAC-P-APR3D
TSA-HAC-APR3E-UKV

In this case, the one with the country code should be used. It was a long agreed upon (unwritten) rule to use the one with the country code, and it is in the Adv Guide although perhaps it isn't fully clear.

See "Items with multiple item numbers on the back"
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10837.msg178223.html#msg178223

I did see something about country code but I couldn't determine which one qualified for that so I went with the safer (to me) choice of the one that's more consistent with other regions. For these I didn't know if the "TSA" or "UKV" identified the countries as I can't determine which one is associated with "Germany".  :P

Now that I have some clarification I can put the correct ones in going forward.  ;)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on March 23, 2021, 09:44:22 am
Using Sisters Royale for example, the two numbers are:
HAC-P-APR3D
TSA-HAC-APR3E-UKV

In this case, the one with the country code should be used. It was a long agreed upon (unwritten) rule to use the one with the country code, and it is in the Adv Guide although perhaps it isn't fully clear.

See "Items with multiple item numbers on the back"
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10837.msg178223.html#msg178223

I did see something about country code but I couldn't determine which one qualified for that so I went with the safer (to me) choice of the one that's more consistent with other regions. For these I didn't know if the "TSA" or "UKV" identified the countries as I can't determine which one is associated with "Germany".  :P

Now that I have some clarification I can put the correct ones in going forward.  ;)

NOE is Germany, but Nintendo in Europe is a huge mess. Here it a guide I tend to refer to (it matches the color triangles to country codes)
https://www.nanaky.eu/NintendoTriangles.html
It is not complete.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: leonefamily on March 26, 2021, 11:11:42 am
I got a few rejected edits, I wish we had a "notes" section in the "Submit an item" tab, a section where we can leave notes to admins that explain or justify the edits we make. Anyway, here are the rejected edits that concern me:

https://www.vgcollect.com/item/197215

When I created this entry I entered the wrong barcode by mistake. When I attempted to edit the item with the right barcode it was rejected :/
The right barcode should be 805529105799

Second issue, this listing:
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/180350

There are 2 versions of the Day One Edition. One in a steelbook and one in a regular PS4 box. This item is the regular Day One Edition but it still has the picture, barcode and item number of the steelbook version. Once again, my attempt to edit these things were rejected. In comparison, here is the listing for the steelbook version: https://www.vgcollect.com/item/197219

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on March 26, 2021, 01:40:10 pm
Edits to barcode where it is obviously not just a case of missing digit, will always be rejected. Post into this thread if you want to change a barcode.

Couldn't make a change to 180350 because it was in collection besides you. So put (steelbook) in that title.
Removed (steelbook) from the dupe you made (you made both entries btw), removed front art and item number. Put in correct barcode.

Also refrain from using a text in description such as "has spanish on some inserts". If you want to include this info, put in the specific inserts. That text has been removed from both descriptions.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: n64ra on March 26, 2021, 07:02:49 pm
Hello,

I just proposed edits to two games, which will likely be rejected due to lack of understanding of the subtle differences:

https://www.vgcollect.com/item/179324 to "Blaster Master Zero (includes all banner)"

https://www.vgcollect.com/item/179325 to "Blaster Master Zero II (includes all banner)"

Please do not reject. These are Best Buy sold variants to Blaster Master Zero and Blaster Master Zero II on PS4. The originals do not have entries here on VG Collect (as far as I can tell) so I just created

https://www.vgcollect.com/item/197439 for Blaster Master Zero (PS4)
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/197438 for Blaster Master Zero II (PS4)

These two new entries are the Limited Run Games direct versions that do not have the little banner stating "includes all playable DLC characters".

Thanks
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: weirdfeline on March 27, 2021, 10:47:25 pm
Blank
https://vgcollect.com/item/197479
https://vgcollect.com/item/197480
https://vgcollect.com/item/197481
https://vgcollect.com/item/197482
https://vgcollect.com/item/197483
https://vgcollect.com/item/197484

(https://vgcollect.com/images/gallery/1/18947/2_ezgif-1-1a13ac093785.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: weirdfeline on March 29, 2021, 04:12:53 am
Call of Duty Black Ops: Cold War should be Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War... Black Ops Cold War is the subtitle.
https://vgcollect.com/item/189234

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on April 07, 2021, 01:00:01 am
Empty (https://vgcollect.com/item/197165) | Empty (https://vgcollect.com/item/197487) | Empty (https://vgcollect.com/item/197675) | Empty (https://vgcollect.com/item/197743) | Empty (https://vgcollect.com/item/197759)

Gris (Art-Bundle) - Nintendo Switch [NA] (https://vgcollect.com/item/170669)
I believe the artwork is incorrect, according to this post. (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,6782.msg180852.html#msg180852) (I can't find the artwork to make the appropriate edit.)

Super Hero Sakusen - PlayStation [JP] (https://vgcollect.com/item/104425)
I accidentally submitted Cart/Disc/Media art to the wrong entry, and it was approved. The entry the art belongs to is here. (https://vgcollect.com/item/170816)


(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on April 08, 2021, 10:23:27 am
Gris (Art-Bundle) - Nintendo Switch [NA] (https://vgcollect.com/item/170669)
I believe the artwork is incorrect, according to this post. (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,6782.msg180852.html#msg180852) (I can't find the artwork to make the appropriate edit.)

This is what it looks like:
https://ebay.com/itm/373063620092
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: pfogel on April 19, 2021, 12:30:09 pm
Edit: Item was edited

https://vgcollect.com/item/11756

Posted about it in another thread but was told to post it here.

Front Box Art:
German version (SNSP-AXOP-NOE). It has the gray "PAL VERSION" printed beneath the red "SUPER NINTENDO"

Back Box Art:
French / Benelux version. It's the only one with two languages

Cart/Disc/Media Art:
French / Benelux version. There are two lines printed above the item number

Item number:
SNSP-AXOP-NOE -> German version
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on April 20, 2021, 09:48:29 am
Yeah I did take care of it yesterday after reading your post. :)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: ignition365 on April 20, 2021, 09:53:46 am
I got a rejected edit (which I was totally fine with because I realized after the fact that I did the wrong thing because the UPC lookup website tricked me) but the thing I expected to get rejected didn't get rejected and the thing I expected to not get rejected got rejected, so I looked at the style guide again and now I'm confused because all of my changes should have been rejected.

Books

Books generally have ISBN-10, ISBN-13, UPC and occasionally more info.  Most listings on the site have Item number populated with the ISBN-13 (Sometimes ISBN-10) value, style guide says this is wrong.  Barcode is hit or miss with some listings with ISBN-13 (with ISBN-10 in item number), an actual UPC, or no value.  Very rarely do I see description used for ISBN values, which is what the style guide says to do.

Style guide says put ISBN for for barcode, Advanced Style guide says put ISBN in description.

I'm trying to gather what I should be doing.  There are cases where strategy guides have ISBN and UPC (seems you'd do ISBN in item number and UPC in barcode) since ISBN is an international standard book number (not company specific, used internationally, is the standard, and is in fact an item number).  There are cases where the item has no UPC on the product itself (presumably there is a UPC if you can find a picture of a sealed copy that has the UPC sticker on the cellophane wrapping), which seems like a situation to do ISBN-10 for item number and ISBN-13 for barcode. UPC lookup sites for books like these will list the ISBN-13 as the barcode (https://www.barcodelookup.com/9780744016383)

Like honestly, maybe I should've made a new post suggesting a look at how Strategy Guides/Books are handled.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on April 20, 2021, 10:09:28 am
Ref: https://vgcollect.com/item/104532

The reject was due to you trying to put the ISBN and/or UPC into the item number field. And as the edits came through, it showed that you tried to put 9780744016383 into both fields.

Style guide says put ISBN for for barcode, Advanced Style guide says put ISBN in description.

I do not think there is a mixup with the two style guides, if there is, outline it here specifically. If this is about how the original style guide uses two different header sizes making "Barcode / UPC / EAN codes" look to be a sub-section as item numbers, we can fix that.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: ignition365 on April 20, 2021, 10:29:25 am
Ref: https://vgcollect.com/item/104532

The reject was due to you trying to put the ISBN and/or UPC into the item number field. And as the edits came through, it showed that you tried to put 9780744016383 into both fields.

Style guide says put ISBN for for barcode, Advanced Style guide says put ISBN in description.

I do not think there is a mixup with the two style guides, if there is, outline it here specifically. If this is about how the original style guide uses two different header sizes making "Barcode / UPC / EAN codes" look to be a sub-section as item numbers, we can fix that.
Yes, I'm aware, I wasn't paying attention that both value were the same until after the fact.  I entered ISBN-13 into Item number on purpose.  Putting ISBN-13 into barcode wasn't explicitly intentional, the barcode lookup website had a barcode so I typed in the value and didn't notice until after I submitted that the barcode they provided was also the ISBN-13 value.

From style guide (Presumably regarding barcodes not item numbers)
"ISBN codes are normally used on books and other products. These can be 10 or 13 digits long. If an item does not have a UPC, then enter the ISBN code"

From advanced style guide
"ISBN is an additional number that can be found on books and some video games. This number can be put into Description and not put into Item Number or Barcode fields."

I am positing that this is not what we should be doing, as well as pointing out the inconsistency.  I propose that If UPC doesn't exist, enter ISBN-13 into barcode.  I also propose that for books/strategy guides that ISBN is a valid value for the Item number field.  So in the case of a book that has UPC and ISBN, Item number = ISBN-13 and Barcode = UPC... in the case of a book with no UPC, Item number = ISBN-10 and barcode = ISBN-13.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on April 20, 2021, 10:40:56 am
Both guides are written to consider no difference between games and books. Games are our #1 priority and the site layout is designed for games and there is no consideration for different data sets for different types of items. So books are bound by the game data rules, which is why ISBN can only go into description unless the item does not have a UPC/EAN/JAN.

Ideally, I'd prefer to either have different entry layouts based upon what type of item it is, or have a dedicated ISBN field.

I have modified the highlighted text in the Adv guide as it did not match the original style guide. New text:

Quote
ISBN is an additional number that can be found on books and some video games. This number can be put into Description and not put into Item Number field. If an item has an ISBN but does not have a UPC/EAN/JAN, then you can put the ISBN into the barcode field.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: ignition365 on April 20, 2021, 11:06:41 am
Both guides are written to consider no difference between games and books. Games are our #1 priority and the site layout is designed for games and there is no consideration for different data sets for different types of items. So books are bound by the game data rules, which is why ISBN can only go into description unless the item does not have a UPC/EAN/JAN.

Ideally, I'd prefer to either have different entry layouts based upon what type of item it is, or have a dedicated ISBN field.

I have modified the highlighted text in the Adv guide as it did not match the original style guide. New text:

Quote
ISBN is an additional number that can be found on books and some video games. This number can be put into Description and not put into Item Number field. If an item has an ISBN but does not have a UPC/EAN/JAN, then you can put the ISBN into the barcode field.
I understand what you're saying but that doesn't make a ton of sense to me.  If ISBN does not belong in the item number field, what would go into the item number field potentially for strategy guides/books?

I definitely feel like if there is no valid information that would go into an item number field for strategy guides/books, at the very least we can have the conversation about putting up a vote to allow ISBN values in the item number fields for Books/Strategy guides.  I understand that the values can still go in description, but description isn't a searchable field and ISBN should absolutely be in a searchable field.  No need to add an ISBN field as item number is a perfect fit for ISBN as ISBN is literally an item number "assigned" by the "manufacturer".
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on April 20, 2021, 12:18:20 pm
I understand what you're saying but that doesn't make a ton of sense to me.  If ISBN does not belong in the item number field, what would go into the item number field potentially for strategy guides/books?

If the book has an item number, then it would go into that field.
It is easier to have a rule that says ISBN goes into description than to have a ruleset like:

If it is a book the ISBN goes into item number, unless the item has an item number, then ISBN goes into description. If it is a game, the ISBN goes into item number, unless there item has an item number then the ISBN goes into description. If the item has an Item number and an ISBN but not a barcode, then item number goes into item number and ISBN goes into barcode?

You have to think in terms of all items not just games or books. What is the easiest we can make things for people and the current design of the site without having to bust out Visio to figure out where to put the ISBN number depending on what type of item it is.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: ignition365 on April 20, 2021, 12:27:51 pm
I understand what you're saying but that doesn't make a ton of sense to me.  If ISBN does not belong in the item number field, what would go into the item number field potentially for strategy guides/books?

If the book has an item number, then it would go into that field.
It is easier to have a rule that says ISBN goes into description than to have a ruleset like:

If it is a book the ISBN goes into item number, unless the item has an item number, then ISBN goes into description. If it is a game, the ISBN goes into item number, unless there item has an item number then the ISBN goes into description. If the item has an Item number and an ISBN but not a barcode, then item number goes into item number and ISBN goes into barcode?

You have to think in terms of all items not just games or books. What is the easiest we can make things for people and the current design of the site without having to bust out Visio to figure out where to put the ISBN number depending on what type of item it is.
I'll rephrase my question.  Do any books have item numbers that are not ISBN values?

It seems to me it should be as simple as "If it is a book, the ISBN goes into the item number.  ISBN-13 takes precedence over ISBN-10."  That's it.  No more is needed if you really want it as simple as possible.  "If there is no UPC, there is no UPC."

To my knowledge... Every book in the DB that has an item number associated to it is displaying an ISBN value.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on April 21, 2021, 10:19:48 am
I'll rephrase my question.  Do any books have item numbers that are not ISBN values?

It seems to me it should be as simple as "If it is a book, the ISBN goes into the item number.  ISBN-13 takes precedence over ISBN-10."  That's it.  No more is needed if you really want it as simple as possible.  "If there is no UPC, there is no UPC."

To my knowledge... Every book in the DB that has an item number associated to it is displaying an ISBN value.

Do they or can they? Magazines and comics have their issue number. Some books have item numbers as well as ISBN numbers. I'm not talking about what is in the database, and we should not think that "this is what is in the database, so it is how it is supposed to go". Heck even just looking at the swag - print media section shows it to be not in compliance with the style guide, many bad pictures and titles and items that are not game related that are in there.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: ignition365 on April 21, 2021, 10:44:09 am
I'll rephrase my question.  Do any books have item numbers that are not ISBN values?

It seems to me it should be as simple as "If it is a book, the ISBN goes into the item number.  ISBN-13 takes precedence over ISBN-10."  That's it.  No more is needed if you really want it as simple as possible.  "If there is no UPC, there is no UPC."

To my knowledge... Every book in the DB that has an item number associated to it is displaying an ISBN value.

Do they or can they? Magazines and comics have their issue number. Some books have item numbers as well as ISBN numbers. I'm not talking about what is in the database, and we should not think that "this is what is in the database, so it is how it is supposed to go". Heck even just looking at the swag - print media section shows it to be not in compliance with the style guide, many bad pictures and titles and items that are not game related that are in there.
Right, but do Magazines and comics have isbn numbers?  If magazines and comics don't have isbn, it's kind of a moot argument.

And yes, a thought had occurred to me that there could be a company who produces books in a series thus you may have Company-Book# as a sort of "item number", which again I see that as something that would be the reason to not use isbn across the board with our current guidelines.  To which I posit that ISBN should take precedence over the existing item number guideline for books.  But I think that goes into the argument of publisher vs manufacturer.  Publisher decides Company-Book#, Manufacturer "decides" ISBN, ISBN applies to our existing item number guidelines whereas Publisher item number wouldn't.  Like for LRG games, item number is the Sony determine item number not the LRG LRG-### number.  So even applying existing rules ISBN should go in item number over any other number for a book.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on April 21, 2021, 11:59:27 am
I'll rephrase my question.  Do any books have item numbers that are not ISBN values?

It seems to me it should be as simple as "If it is a book, the ISBN goes into the item number.  ISBN-13 takes precedence over ISBN-10."  That's it.  No more is needed if you really want it as simple as possible.  "If there is no UPC, there is no UPC."

To my knowledge... Every book in the DB that has an item number associated to it is displaying an ISBN value.

Do they or can they? Magazines and comics have their issue number. Some books have item numbers as well as ISBN numbers. I'm not talking about what is in the database, and we should not think that "this is what is in the database, so it is how it is supposed to go". Heck even just looking at the swag - print media section shows it to be not in compliance with the style guide, many bad pictures and titles and items that are not game related that are in there.
Right, but do Magazines and comics have isbn numbers?  If magazines and comics don't have isbn, it's kind of a moot argument.

And yes, a thought had occurred to me that there could be a company who produces books in a series thus you may have Company-Book# as a sort of "item number", which again I see that as something that would be the reason to not use isbn across the board with our current guidelines.  To which I posit that ISBN should take precedence over the existing item number guideline for books.  But I think that goes into the argument of publisher vs manufacturer.  Publisher decides Company-Book#, Manufacturer "decides" ISBN, ISBN applies to our existing item number guidelines whereas Publisher item number wouldn't.  Like for LRG games, item number is the Sony determine item number not the LRG LRG-### number.  So even applying existing rules ISBN should go in item number over any other number for a book.

I think we can just easily make a per-category rule for this, whereas items in Swag Print Media can put ISBN as item number. It would be no different than the rules that were made for other categories where the items being tracked are not what the site was designed for. If you think this would be a good idea, I can put it into the style guide. Since as you say most books have ISBN in their item number already, it would make sense that a vote wouldn't be needed if we make it a category specific rule.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: ignition365 on April 21, 2021, 01:09:56 pm
I'll rephrase my question.  Do any books have item numbers that are not ISBN values?

It seems to me it should be as simple as "If it is a book, the ISBN goes into the item number.  ISBN-13 takes precedence over ISBN-10."  That's it.  No more is needed if you really want it as simple as possible.  "If there is no UPC, there is no UPC."

To my knowledge... Every book in the DB that has an item number associated to it is displaying an ISBN value.

Do they or can they? Magazines and comics have their issue number. Some books have item numbers as well as ISBN numbers. I'm not talking about what is in the database, and we should not think that "this is what is in the database, so it is how it is supposed to go". Heck even just looking at the swag - print media section shows it to be not in compliance with the style guide, many bad pictures and titles and items that are not game related that are in there.
Right, but do Magazines and comics have isbn numbers?  If magazines and comics don't have isbn, it's kind of a moot argument.

And yes, a thought had occurred to me that there could be a company who produces books in a series thus you may have Company-Book# as a sort of "item number", which again I see that as something that would be the reason to not use isbn across the board with our current guidelines.  To which I posit that ISBN should take precedence over the existing item number guideline for books.  But I think that goes into the argument of publisher vs manufacturer.  Publisher decides Company-Book#, Manufacturer "decides" ISBN, ISBN applies to our existing item number guidelines whereas Publisher item number wouldn't.  Like for LRG games, item number is the Sony determine item number not the LRG LRG-### number.  So even applying existing rules ISBN should go in item number over any other number for a book.

I think we can just easily make a per-category rule for this, whereas items in Swag Print Media can put ISBN as item number. It would be no different than the rules that were made for other categories where the items being tracked are not what the site was designed for. If you think this would be a good idea, I can put it into the style guide. Since as you say most books have ISBN in their item number already, it would make sense that a vote wouldn't be needed if we make it a category specific rule.
Then I would say yes, but to confirm (Because I'm raring to go create/update a bunch of strategy guides/books) ISBN goes in item number (13 over 10) and only UPC goes in barcode?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on April 22, 2021, 09:45:31 am
I'll rephrase my question.  Do any books have item numbers that are not ISBN values?

It seems to me it should be as simple as "If it is a book, the ISBN goes into the item number.  ISBN-13 takes precedence over ISBN-10."  That's it.  No more is needed if you really want it as simple as possible.  "If there is no UPC, there is no UPC."

To my knowledge... Every book in the DB that has an item number associated to it is displaying an ISBN value.

Do they or can they? Magazines and comics have their issue number. Some books have item numbers as well as ISBN numbers. I'm not talking about what is in the database, and we should not think that "this is what is in the database, so it is how it is supposed to go". Heck even just looking at the swag - print media section shows it to be not in compliance with the style guide, many bad pictures and titles and items that are not game related that are in there.
Right, but do Magazines and comics have isbn numbers?  If magazines and comics don't have isbn, it's kind of a moot argument.

And yes, a thought had occurred to me that there could be a company who produces books in a series thus you may have Company-Book# as a sort of "item number", which again I see that as something that would be the reason to not use isbn across the board with our current guidelines.  To which I posit that ISBN should take precedence over the existing item number guideline for books.  But I think that goes into the argument of publisher vs manufacturer.  Publisher decides Company-Book#, Manufacturer "decides" ISBN, ISBN applies to our existing item number guidelines whereas Publisher item number wouldn't.  Like for LRG games, item number is the Sony determine item number not the LRG LRG-### number.  So even applying existing rules ISBN should go in item number over any other number for a book.

I think we can just easily make a per-category rule for this, whereas items in Swag Print Media can put ISBN as item number. It would be no different than the rules that were made for other categories where the items being tracked are not what the site was designed for. If you think this would be a good idea, I can put it into the style guide. Since as you say most books have ISBN in their item number already, it would make sense that a vote wouldn't be needed if we make it a category specific rule.
Then I would say yes, but to confirm (Because I'm raring to go create/update a bunch of strategy guides/books) ISBN goes in item number (13 over 10) and only UPC goes in barcode?

Correct
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: goldenjustice on April 23, 2021, 06:19:04 pm
SD Gundam G Generation Genesis for Nintendo Switch [CN]
https://vgcollect.com/item/197611
Submitted a better image of the front box art

Atelier Mysterious Trilogy Deluxe Pack [CN]
https://vgcollect.com/item/197612
Submitted front box art

Neither edit has been rejected per-say, just overlooked
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on April 26, 2021, 10:29:18 am
SD Gundam G Generation Genesis for Nintendo Switch [CN]
https://vgcollect.com/item/197611
Submitted a better image of the front box art

Atelier Mysterious Trilogy Deluxe Pack [CN]
https://vgcollect.com/item/197612
Submitted front box art

Neither edit has been rejected per-say, just overlooked

I do not know why they were rejected (or not?)
Can you post what image you tried to use?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: goldenjustice on April 26, 2021, 02:45:38 pm
SD Gundam G Generation Genesis for Nintendo Switch [CN]
https://vgcollect.com/item/197611
Submitted a better image of the front box art

Atelier Mysterious Trilogy Deluxe Pack [CN]
https://vgcollect.com/item/197612
Submitted front box art

Neither edit has been rejected per-say, just overlooked

I do not know why they were rejected (or not?)
Can you post what image you tried to use?

Sure thing

(https://i.ibb.co/3dVNQGj/sd-gundam-g-generation-genesis-for-nintendo-switch-english-656367-11.webp)

(https://i.ibb.co/9yW3x4C/atelier-mysterious-trilogy-deluxe-pack-english-660035-7.webp)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on April 26, 2021, 06:03:16 pm
Empty (https://vgcollect.com/item/198354)

Nier Replicant ver.1.22474487139... - White Snow Edition (https://vgcollect.com/item/198976)
For items such as collector's editions that do not actually include the game, how should they be categorized? While both PlayStation 4 and Xbox One versions were sold, neither actually include a physical copy of the game and contain the same bonus items. Instead, the game comes packaged individually inside the mailing packaging and is not found inside the collector's packaging. My thought was to categorize this item in Other since it represents all PlayStation 4 and Xbox One versions across every region.

Currently, Gal Gun 2 - Free Hugs Edition (https://vgcollect.com/item/173031)—which is similar in scenario to White Snow Edition—is classified as Other, although this information is original to the entry. On the other hand, Oxenfree - Collector's Edition (https://vgcollect.com/item/101514) currently is placed in Swag - Carrying Cases & Bags, which makes sense on a practical basis but maybe not quite representative of the item in relation to other collector's editions like it.

Nintendo Hachi no Su Game (https://vgcollect.com/item/198794)
Are non-video game items relating to video games companies like this allowed? To me, this seems no different than if we were to catalog Sony televisions. There have been a lot of similar entries created recently.

Stealth feat. Wipeout Pure - Stealth Edition (https://vgcollect.com/item/197333)
I don't think I've asked about this specific item, but I'm curious--should this be classified as a PSP demo? Its [NA] counterpart (https://vgcollect.com/item/69904) is currently categorized as such (from a previous edit of mine), as it includes a demo for Wipeout Pure. I'm not sure what the general guidelines for items like this are. Choose the category that most accurately describes the item based on packaging? (which is very remindful of the ongoing Xbox One / Series X conversation.) The items having CERO and ESRB ratings were big factors as to why I attempted to re-categorize to PlayStation Portable Demo.


(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on April 27, 2021, 10:44:07 am
Those are .webp. We only accept .jpg for item images.

SD Gundam G Generation Genesis for Nintendo Switch [CN]
https://vgcollect.com/item/197611
Submitted a better image of the front box art

Atelier Mysterious Trilogy Deluxe Pack [CN]
https://vgcollect.com/item/197612
Submitted front box art

Neither edit has been rejected per-say, just overlooked

I do not know why they were rejected (or not?)
Can you post what image you tried to use?

Sure thing
Code: [Select]
[img]https://i.ibb.co/3dVNQGj/sd-gundam-g-generation-genesis-for-nintendo-switch-english-656367-11.webp[/img]

[img]https://i.ibb.co/9yW3x4C/atelier-mysterious-trilogy-deluxe-pack-english-660035-7.webp[/img]
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Flashback2012 on April 27, 2021, 10:50:30 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/190600

Rejected edit for adding info for additional item numbers and disc item number in description field. Info was pulled from case/disc sitting in front of me. Didn't alter any of the existing text, just bumped it down.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on April 27, 2021, 10:52:47 am
Nier Replicant ver.1.22474487139... - White Snow Edition (https://vgcollect.com/item/198976)
For items such as collector's editions that do not actually include the game, how should they be categorized? While both PlayStation 4 and Xbox One versions were sold, neither actually include a physical copy of the game and contain the same bonus items. Instead, the game comes packaged individually inside the mailing packaging and is not found inside the collector's packaging. My thought was to categorize this item in Other since it represents all PlayStation 4 and Xbox One versions across every region.

Currently, Gal Gun 2 - Free Hugs Edition (https://vgcollect.com/item/173031)—which is similar in scenario to White Snow Edition—is classified as Other, although this information is original to the entry. On the other hand, Oxenfree - Collector's Edition (https://vgcollect.com/item/101514) currently is placed in Swag - Carrying Cases & Bags, which makes sense on a practical basis but maybe not quite representative of the item in relation to other collector's editions like it.

Nintendo Hachi no Su Game (https://vgcollect.com/item/198794)
Are non-video game items relating to video games companies like this allowed? To me, this seems no different than if we were to catalog Sony televisions. There have been a lot of similar entries created recently.

Stealth feat. Wipeout Pure - Stealth Edition (https://vgcollect.com/item/197333)
I don't think I've asked about this specific item, but I'm curious--should this be classified as a PSP demo? Its [NA] counterpart (https://vgcollect.com/item/69904) is currently categorized as such (from a previous edit of mine), as it includes a demo for Wipeout Pure. I'm not sure what the general guidelines for items like this are. Choose the category that most accurately describes the item based on packaging? (which is very remindful of the ongoing Xbox One / Series X conversation.) The items having CERO and ESRB ratings were big factors as to why I attempted to re-categorize to PlayStation Portable Demo.[/font]

Nier/GalGun: see Platform post of Adv Guide. Basically, this type of item can be put into an appropriate swag category or in Other. It cannot be in the game category.

Stealth: this is a movie with a game. it should be in the movie category. Would be no different than other movies with games or game demos such as Bloodrayne (https://vgcollect.com/item/195736) or a music cd with a game on it like P.O.D. - Payable on Death (https://vgcollect.com/item/141393)

Non video game items created by video game companies: no, these items are out of scope for the site. They should be reported so that they can be removed.

Also noting that you reported the Nier entry for being in the wrong category, but did not also report that the Nier entry had a watermarked image. Entries with watermarked images should be reported here as well so that those images can be removed.
EDIT: also be aware that Admins make mistakes too, so there should be no fear in reporting errors that an Admin has made.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on April 27, 2021, 10:55:52 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/190600

Rejected edit for adding info for additional item numbers and disc item number in description field. Info was pulled from case/disc sitting in front of me. Didn't alter any of the existing text, just bumped it down.

I think it is because of the text that was remaining in description. The current description is invalid, so if you were to edit it to put in the additional info, the old description should be removed before submitting.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: vivigamer on April 27, 2021, 01:40:51 pm
I noticed there is something fishy going on with the PS4 listing for Batman: Arkham Returns
https://vgcollect.com/item/113977 - All the details have been stripped (I know for a fact this listing has a cover image at the very least) and now there is a new listing:
https://vgcollect.com/item/197940
This listing is newer and has a PEGI Rating while the other one doesn't... but I don't recall there being a UK version with a BBFC rating - I'm from the UK and my version has the PEGI classification. There are 50+ people which have the 1st listing in their collection, so I thought it would be wiser to edit that version, yet all my edits got rejected...

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on April 27, 2021, 02:53:56 pm
Non video game items created by video game companies: no, these items are out of scope for the site. They should be reported so that they can be removed.

https://vgcollect.com/item/159064
https://vgcollect.com/item/190433
https://vgcollect.com/item/190435
https://vgcollect.com/item/190847
https://vgcollect.com/item/191779
https://vgcollect.com/item/193472
https://vgcollect.com/item/197687
https://vgcollect.com/item/197688
https://vgcollect.com/item/198907


(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: pzeke on April 28, 2021, 04:37:09 am
Here's another one...

https://vgcollect.com/item/194795

Some would say that's an oddball, but the fact of the matter is that it's not. It may be a product by Sega, but it's literally just a star projector (which isn't worth the retail price, by the way).

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on April 28, 2021, 09:59:55 am
They are not video game items, meaning there is no reference a video game. Even a name of a system being present would be enough, or even a picture of Sonic or something. Or for a Nintendo made item, a picture of Mario would be enough to have it get an item.

We even allow things like computer peripherals like video cards or sound cards if the box has a picture relating to a video game, even if the box or item doesn't come with a game. A slight reference like that is allowed to have an item in the db.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: pzeke on April 28, 2021, 12:44:49 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/OkHPb1u.gif)

Yup.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: goldenjustice on April 28, 2021, 01:52:39 pm
Those are .webp. We only accept .jpg for item images.

Thank you for the heads up, now that I know it's a simple enough problem to fix
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: leonefamily on April 30, 2021, 11:53:41 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/123787

I screwed up royally. I submitted item edits meant for the PS3 version, not PS4. It's 11:52 PM and I'm feeling very sleepy, no wonder why I failed to notice it was PS4 not PS3  ;D

Please reject my edits lol
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: aliensstudios on May 01, 2021, 10:58:58 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/123787

I screwed up royally. I submitted item edits meant for the PS3 version, not PS4. It's 11:52 PM and I'm feeling very sleepy, no wonder why I failed to notice it was PS4 not PS3  ;D

Please reject my edits lol
It looks like somebody accepted them. Which edits are wrong?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: leonefamily on May 01, 2021, 01:28:08 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/123787

I screwed up royally. I submitted item edits meant for the PS3 version, not PS4. It's 11:52 PM and I'm feeling very sleepy, no wonder why I failed to notice it was PS4 not PS3  ;D

Please reject my edits lol
It looks like somebody accepted them. Which edits are wrong?

Item number and barcode. Fortunately the rest was rejected. Man I was completely on another planet yesterday when I made the edits, fortunately I immediately realised my mistake lmao. In 4 years that I've been contributing to VGcollect I had to have a dumb screw-up at some point lol
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on May 04, 2021, 09:59:39 am
I just made a listing for the LRG release of Destroy all Humans but it was immediately deleted, not sure what happened?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on May 04, 2021, 10:05:52 am
I just made a listing for the LRG release of Destroy all Humans but it was immediately deleted, not sure what happened?

Merged as dupe.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on May 04, 2021, 10:12:10 am
I just made a listing for the LRG release of Destroy all Humans but it was immediately deleted, not sure what happened?

Merged as dupe.

Gotcha, didn't see that it already existed. Sorry  :)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: pajam on May 04, 2021, 12:47:06 pm
I recently updated the Box Art for this listing: Sonic The Hedgehog (Alt-Name: Sonic 2006) (https://vgcollect.com/item/143424) (Xbox Games Store (X360) [NA] (https://vgcollect.com/browse/xboxgamesstorena)), and the edit was rejected.

There are 2 "Sonic the Hedgehog" releases on the North American Xbox Live:


As you can see, the Sonic 2006 listing has the incorrect Box Art (looks like someone uploaded the incorrect art back on 08-26-2019, and it was approved).
I tried to update it to be accurate (and to prevent confusion, since as of now it looks like 2 duplicates of the classic game port at a glance, and the alt-name is the only way to tell this is "Sonic 2006" version of "Sonic The Hedgehog")

Is there a way to get the art updated to the correct version for "Sonic 2006" and it be approved this time?

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: pzeke on May 04, 2021, 04:40:14 pm
These are apps:

https://vgcollect.com/item/26485
https://vgcollect.com/item/87830
https://vgcollect.com/item/114760
https://vgcollect.com/item/152181
https://vgcollect.com/item/166433
https://vgcollect.com/item/199552
https://vgcollect.com/item/199553
https://vgcollect.com/item/199554
https://vgcollect.com/item/199555
https://vgcollect.com/item/199556
https://vgcollect.com/item/199557
https://vgcollect.com/item/199558
https://vgcollect.com/item/199559
https://vgcollect.com/item/199562
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on May 05, 2021, 10:01:44 am
These are apps:

https://vgcollect.com/item/26485
https://vgcollect.com/item/87830
https://vgcollect.com/item/114760
https://vgcollect.com/item/152181
https://vgcollect.com/item/166433
https://vgcollect.com/item/199552
https://vgcollect.com/item/199553
https://vgcollect.com/item/199554
https://vgcollect.com/item/199555
https://vgcollect.com/item/199556
https://vgcollect.com/item/199557
https://vgcollect.com/item/199558
https://vgcollect.com/item/199559
https://vgcollect.com/item/199562

Apps are allowed, but only if they are or were from the online storefront. The type of apps we disallow are the ones that are only built-in and aren't on the store. If any of these are of that type, let us know which ones.

From the Platform post on the Adv Guide:

Quote
Built-in Games and Software
Built-in games for a console should not get a separate entry. Examples of this would be Snail Maze for Sega Master System, which is a game you can play on some consoles without inserting a cartridge. This game is considered part of the SMS and should be put into the description of the appropriate SMS console release entries.

Likewise, any built-in games or software on modern consoles that have online store platforms should not have a separate entry created.
Examples of this would be built-in apps that come pre-installed on the Nintendo 3DS and are not downloadable from the platform store, such as Nintendo Zone, Face Raiders, Mii Plaza or the eShop itself. Non-game apps are currently allowed to have entries, such as YouTube.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: pzeke on May 07, 2021, 11:09:07 am
10-4
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: nathan776 on May 08, 2021, 02:20:30 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/90896

^From what I can tell this game never actually had an EU release despite a few EU release dates floating around.
Might be due to the publisher being brought out

https://vgcollect.com/item/131114

^Image is of ESRB rating for EU 360 game. No clarifying features to distinguish from https://vgcollect.com/item/80634 .

https://vgcollect.com/item/94521
^XBLA, in wrong category

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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: cirdan77 on May 12, 2021, 02:07:30 pm
Hi!
I just found a PS4 game where the standard release has been displaying metadata (pic & item number) for a special release.
I tried to do what I could, but I need a bit of DBA assistance to make things accurate.

PLATFORM: PlayStation 4 (NA)

Star Wars Battlefront II has a long-existing record https://vgcollect.com/item/126853 (https://vgcollect.com/item/126853) (created June 2017) which has since Jan 2020 shown very non-standard item number & back box art (having UPC replaced by "NOT FOR RESALE"). Obviously, the vast majority of users showing that game in their collection do NOT have the "Not For Resale" edition...

Usually when I try to correct a mishap like this, my edits get denied (it would be nifty if we could submit explanations/justifications for edits), so here I'm dumping my recently-submitted actions & a DBA request:

Minutes ago I created a NEW Star Wars Battlefront II record here: https://vgcollect.com/item/200169 (https://vgcollect.com/item/200169)
On that record I specified the correct information for the standard Battlefront II release (which I own and can confirm).
Separately, I also submitted an edit to the original record to change its name by appending this text:  " (Not For Resale)".  That edit is still pending....

MY REQUEST:
Could someone with DBA rights do one of?:

I hope that makes sense. Sorry for the verbosity! :)

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Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on May 13, 2021, 10:22:25 am
Fixed art on 126853
Merged 200169 as dupe
created new NFR entry
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Flashback2012 on May 16, 2021, 03:51:09 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/200089

Rejected edit on alt name of Fight & Rage which according to GameFaqs is the Japanese title for the game. Edit for Switch version was approved recently.  :P
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on May 16, 2021, 04:07:28 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/200089

Rejected edit on alt name of Fight & Rage which according to GameFaqs is the Japanese title for the game. Edit for Switch version was approved recently.  :P

My mistake. Submit the information once more, and I'll approve it.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Cartagia on May 17, 2021, 06:39:29 pm
Empty listing:

https://vgcollect.com/item/200687
(https://vgcollect.com/images/gallery/1/18947/2_ezgif-1-1a13ac093785.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: n64ra on May 19, 2021, 01:28:01 pm
Hi,

This isn't a GBC game https://www.vgcollect.com/item/100063. It looks like there is a correct GB entry here https://www.vgcollect.com/item/14103

Interestingly, the wrong entry has a good photo of the cartridge which should migrate over to the correct entry.
(https://vgcollect.com/images/gallery/1/18947/2_ezgif-1-1a13ac093785.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: leonefamily on May 23, 2021, 10:07:56 pm
So apparently Sanyo didn't publish their own console?  ???

I submitted an edit for

https://www.vgcollect.com/item/63335

and put "Sanyo" as the publisher. But it was rejected. Most other consoles in the 3DO hardware section have their manufacturer as the "Publisher" field. Why not this time?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on May 23, 2021, 10:12:49 pm
So apparently Sanyo didn't publish their own console?  ???

I submitted an edit for

https://www.vgcollect.com/item/63335

and put "Sanyo" as the publisher. But it was rejected. Most other consoles in the 3DO hardware section have their manufacturer as the "Publisher" field. Why not this time?

From the style guide:

Developer and Publisher
Because the original design of the database was primarily for games, non-game items do not use the Developer and Publisher fields the same way. Here is a quick list of non-game items and which fields are appropriate:
- Hardware and Accessories: Uses Developer field but Publisher should be blank

Any entries representing hardware which have information entered into the Publisher field are incorrect. Unfortunately, once information is entered into the Developer or Publisher field, it cannot be removed by normal means—it can only be updated
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: leonefamily on May 23, 2021, 10:18:59 pm
Any entries representing hardware which have information entered into the Publisher field are incorrect. Unfortunately, once information is entered into the Developer or Publisher field, it cannot be removed by normal means—it can only be updated

Oh, so that would explain why some console entries have something in Publisher field and some don't.

Developer and Publisher
Because the original design of the database was primarily for games, non-game items do not use the Developer and Publisher fields the same way. Here is a quick list of non-game items and which fields are appropriate:
- Hardware and Accessories: Uses Developer field but Publisher should be blank

So should I add it to Developer field then?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on May 23, 2021, 10:25:20 pm
Developer and Publisher
Because the original design of the database was primarily for games, non-game items do not use the Developer and Publisher fields the same way. Here is a quick list of non-game items and which fields are appropriate:
- Hardware and Accessories: Uses Developer field but Publisher should be blank

So should I add it to Developer field then?

Correct. Make an updated edit for it to be approved.

Edit: Actually, let's wait for tripredacus to get his word on it. I'm finding a conflicting answer, although one not officially from the style guide. Perhaps the style guide needs to be updated.


So far on just this entry:
https://vgcollect.com/item/23134

The Developer and Publisher should not be set on hardware. Normally this is fixed by changing it to "Select" (the first option) but on this entry, when I submit the edit with both cleared, the edits never appear in the approval queue.

Personally, I'd rather not have either Publisher or Developer filled out for hardware entries. Manufacturers—not publishers or developers—create the hardware.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on May 24, 2021, 08:07:47 am
Developer OK for hardware/accessories but it is complicated as knowing who is and isn't the developer. Sometimes the developer is not the manufacturer or whoever's brand name is on an item. An example of this can be found in accessories where "someone" develops the hardware but is then private branded or has a custom shell and sold under the name of many different companies. Sometimes an actual developer of hardware/accessory is a person.

In general I'd recommend to not set developer on this type of entry but the Style Guide is correct as far as Yes for Developer and No for Publisher.

Hardware isn't "published" so there should not be publisher set. We already have a bug report regarding the situation where Developer or Publisher cannot be blanked out or set to default like you could with say... rating or the other drop-downs.

This is but one of many situations where the item entry layout, being designed to track "games" does not match up to the type of information you'd want to have for hardware. Same thing with books or toys or movies or whatever else we have entries for that aren't games.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: ignition365 on May 28, 2021, 08:33:25 am
Legend of Zelda, The: The Wind Waker - Prima Official Game Guide (Collector's Edition)
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/75254

Name is wrong, edit was rejected.  Don't know what it's supposed to be, but what it is is wrong.

This is not for Wind Waker, this is for Wind Waker HD.  Spine says Wind Waker HD.

It is the CE counterpart to this guide
Legend of Zelda, The: The Wind Waker HD - Prima Official Game Guide
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/99079

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on May 28, 2021, 09:35:59 am
Changed the name and added to description. Entry is using stock photo for front art instead of the actual cover which I found here: https://www.ebay.com/itm/393217717760
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: leonefamily on May 30, 2021, 08:18:31 am
Yesterday I updated a front box art and it was accepted, but as of today the image has still not been updated. Is that a bug? Should I submit again?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: aliensstudios on May 30, 2021, 11:44:06 am
It's usually because the old image is still stored in your internet browser's cache. If you clear it out, your new image should appear.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: leonefamily on May 30, 2021, 12:16:55 pm
It's usually because the old image is still stored in your internet browser's cache. If you clear it out, your new image should appear.

I cleared the cache but the old image is still there.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on June 01, 2021, 01:33:38 am
It's usually because the old image is still stored in your internet browser's cache. If you clear it out, your new image should appear.

I cleared the cache but the old image is still there.

If you're referring to Sanyo 3DO TRY, (https://vgcollect.com/item/63335) the image has already been updated by you and can be seen, in case you're wondering why your recent edit for it was rejected.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on June 01, 2021, 09:39:04 am
You can do a hard refresh on the page with Ctrl+F5 to see if that causes the image to update in your browser.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: leonefamily on June 03, 2021, 06:53:15 pm
I tried hard refresh and the original image was still there. I waited a few days and still not changed so I submitted again. It was rejected as information was already listed. So the admin definetly sees the correct image, but for some reason I don't. I deleted everything from Google Chrome's settings tab and now it finally appears. CTrl+F5 didn't work for me but doing it manually from settings fixed it.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Cartagia on June 15, 2021, 09:15:47 am
Edit for
https://vgcollect.com/item/163972

was rejected.  Rehydrated is the "fun" moniker for Remastered, making it an "Edition," so it should be a hyphen not a colon.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on June 15, 2021, 09:46:05 am
Edit for
https://vgcollect.com/item/163972

was rejected.  Rehydrated is the "fun" moniker for Remastered, making it an "Edition," so it should be a hyphen not a colon.

There are two main things that make for the use of a hyphen in a game item name
1. It is n Edition in name, such as Collector's Edition, Limited Edition and translations such as Genteiban
2. It is an reprint series like Greatest Hits or Ricochet or the like.

So even the use of Remastered (without Edition suffix) is not enough to use a hyphen.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: x211321 on June 16, 2021, 02:59:55 pm
Hi,

first post here.

I was just about to add the German version of Star Fox Adventures to the database (since it is apparently missing) when I stumbled upon this entry:

https://vgcollect.com/item/26561

Front and back cover as well as the barcode are from the German version but it states an ELSPA rating instead of the USK one that's on the box. The item number is from the disc which appears to be the same for multiple regions.

The title has no country code so it’s unclear what the original intent was.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on June 17, 2021, 09:38:45 am
Added [DE] TLD to that entry. Moved item number to description. Added correct item number.

Also merged the dupe [FR] entry in that category.
And removed the TLD from the UK entry.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: x211321 on June 20, 2021, 01:33:57 pm
Just added Tony Hawk's American Wasteland [DE] in Gamecube [EU]

https://vgcollect.com/item/202578 (https://vgcollect.com/item/202578)

Shortly after I added that entry I noticed that the other existing entry (which I took for the UK Version) has a a DE cover as well.

https://vgcollect.com/item/62110 (https://vgcollect.com/item/62110)

That entry has no other identifying attributes.
Not sure whether my new entry was unnecessary and should have extended the existing entry instead.

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Cartagia on June 23, 2021, 06:09:19 pm
Edit for
https://vgcollect.com/item/163972

was rejected.  Rehydrated is the "fun" moniker for Remastered, making it an "Edition," so it should be a hyphen not a colon.

There are two main things that make for the use of a hyphen in a game item name
1. It is n Edition in name, such as Collector's Edition, Limited Edition and translations such as Genteiban
2. It is an reprint series like Greatest Hits or Ricochet or the like.

So even the use of Remastered (without Edition suffix) is not enough to use a hyphen.

Got it!  I thought that Remstered versions were jusr generally considered "editions".  Either way have of the Spongebobs are backwards, lol.

Secondary question - I'm looking at the NeoGeo Minis.  Should Neo Geo be one word or two?  I'm seeing it all over the place in the references and such.  It's another thing where half the entries are one way, and the other half are another.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Cartagia on June 23, 2021, 07:50:20 pm
Box art edit for https://vgcollect.com/item/164673 was rejected.

Different art was added.  That box art is incorrect, it is for the international version.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on June 23, 2021, 09:20:36 pm
Box art edit for https://vgcollect.com/item/164673 was rejected.

Different art was added.  That box art is incorrect, it is for the international version.

Removed current artwork (which was my mistake.) I'm now also noticing that I approved your edit for the entry's back art, although the image is of EU box art (note the PEGI rating at bottom-left.) If you submit a replacement for those fields, I'll approve them. If not for the back art, I'll remove what is current.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Cartagia on June 23, 2021, 09:28:27 pm
Box art edit for https://vgcollect.com/item/164673 was rejected.

Different art was added.  That box art is incorrect, it is for the international version.

Removed current artwork (which was my mistake.) I'm now also noticing that I approved your edit for the entry's back art, although the image is of EU box art (note the PEGI rating at bottom-left.) If you submit a replacement for those fields, I'll approve them. If not for the back art, I'll remove what is current.

Yeah, I'm not sure why it's so hard to find images of the US version.  I'll just take photos of the box I've got.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on June 24, 2021, 11:07:13 am
Edit for
https://vgcollect.com/item/163972

was rejected.  Rehydrated is the "fun" moniker for Remastered, making it an "Edition," so it should be a hyphen not a colon.

There are two main things that make for the use of a hyphen in a game item name
1. It is n Edition in name, such as Collector's Edition, Limited Edition and translations such as Genteiban
2. It is an reprint series like Greatest Hits or Ricochet or the like.

So even the use of Remastered (without Edition suffix) is not enough to use a hyphen.

Got it!  I thought that Remstered versions were jusr generally considered "editions".  Either way have of the Spongebobs are backwards, lol.

Secondary question - I'm looking at the NeoGeo Minis.  Should Neo Geo be one word or two?  I'm seeing it all over the place in the references and such.  It's another thing where half the entries are one way, and the other half are another.

Neo Geo is two words with the exception for the digital games that are part of "ACA NeoGeo" line.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: empovyle on June 28, 2021, 09:41:02 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/202988 Blank listing

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: nathan776 on June 28, 2021, 03:16:34 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/161098
wrong category

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Flashback2012 on June 28, 2021, 11:39:06 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/57122

Cover art needs removed. Shows cover art for 300: The Game on PSP. I would have replaced it with a photo of the UMD movie but my Google-Fu is weak and I couldn't find a suitable NA pic.  :P
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on June 29, 2021, 09:18:39 am
Is it possible that it doesn't exist? I can find the UK and the JP version. None of the UMD release lists for NA have 300. The UPC on this entry is the same as the game as well. I'm thinking the entry should be merged with the game entry. You let me know if you can find whether this actually exists in NA or not.

https://vgcollect.com/item/57122

Cover art needs removed. Shows cover art for 300: The Game on PSP. I would have replaced it with a photo of the UMD movie but my Google-Fu is weak and I couldn't find a suitable NA pic.  :P
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Flashback2012 on June 29, 2021, 11:01:31 am
Is it possible that it doesn't exist? I can find the UK and the JP version. None of the UMD release lists for NA have 300. The UPC on this entry is the same as the game as well. I'm thinking the entry should be merged with the game entry. You let me know if you can find whether this actually exists in NA or not.

https://vgcollect.com/item/57122

Cover art needs removed. Shows cover art for 300: The Game on PSP. I would have replaced it with a photo of the UMD movie but my Google-Fu is weak and I couldn't find a suitable NA pic.  :P

I could have sworn I've seen a domestic UMD release for 300. Now I gotta be on the lookout. As for this entry, I'd say merge it!
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on June 29, 2021, 11:53:25 am
Merged with https://vgcollect.com/item/41197

If you ever do find a NA release of the UMD movie it can be added later.

Is it possible that it doesn't exist? I can find the UK and the JP version. None of the UMD release lists for NA have 300. The UPC on this entry is the same as the game as well. I'm thinking the entry should be merged with the game entry. You let me know if you can find whether this actually exists in NA or not.

https://vgcollect.com/item/57122

Cover art needs removed. Shows cover art for 300: The Game on PSP. I would have replaced it with a photo of the UMD movie but my Google-Fu is weak and I couldn't find a suitable NA pic.  :P

I could have sworn I've seen a domestic UMD release for 300. Now I gotta be on the lookout. As for this entry, I'd say merge it!
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: leonefamily on June 29, 2021, 06:16:52 pm
https://www.vgcollect.com/item/47082

I found this. It's listed under PS3 [NA] but it has the european name, PEGI rating, europe cover, e.t.c.

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: weirdfeline on July 02, 2021, 12:22:28 pm
Hood: Outlaws & Legends
https://vgcollect.com/item/183817

I tried to change it to digital because it does not have a physical release.

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Agozer on July 03, 2021, 05:18:41 pm
Please delete this: https://vgcollect.com/item/203156

Accidentally added an empty database entry.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: fazerco on July 07, 2021, 12:44:42 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/156181 (https://vgcollect.com/item/156181)

Wrong art, provisional under the pegi, and no yellow dot.

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dagazconcept on July 11, 2021, 11:35:42 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/186214 (https://vgcollect.com/item/186214)
Submitted Item number, rejected. Thought I made a typo, submitted again, rejected again.

This is the box in my hand. https://imgur.com/a/pe7dcAv (https://imgur.com/a/pe7dcAv)
Maybe I'm missing something obvious?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on July 12, 2021, 01:37:49 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/186214 (https://vgcollect.com/item/186214)
Submitted Item number, rejected. Thought I made a typo, submitted again, rejected again.

This is the box in my hand. https://imgur.com/a/pe7dcAv (https://imgur.com/a/pe7dcAv)
Maybe I'm missing something obvious?

Your two previous submissions were rejected as they included hyphens within the Item Number field. However, the item number present on the packaging uses spaces instead of hyphens. If you re-submit an edit with this information, it can be approved.

Item Number
The item number is for an identifying number that exists on the packaging.
It should be enters as it appears with exception to Sony item numbers which must follow this format: XXXX-NNNNN, using the hyphen even if it is not present.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: fazerco on July 12, 2021, 01:01:57 pm
nvm
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Cartagia on July 31, 2021, 07:12:35 pm
Update to the Box Text to https://vgcollect.com/item/204088 was rejected.  I pasted the description straight from the GOG description source as stated in the style guide.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on July 31, 2021, 11:25:19 pm
Update to the Box Text to https://vgcollect.com/item/204088 was rejected.  I pasted the description straight from the GOG description source as stated in the style guide.

I rejected the edit due to the text's long length.

Quote
Digital Items
Digital items should use 1-2 paragraphs from the "description" or summary text as shown on the platform for the game. It should not include all text. The text used should not be the text from a specific platform's public facing website as viewed on a computer or other device using a web browser.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Cartagia on August 01, 2021, 09:18:05 am
Quote
Digital Items
Digital items should use 1-2 paragraphs from the "description" or summary text as shown on the platform for the game. It should not include all text. The text used should not be the text from a specific platform's public facing website as viewed on a computer or other device using a web browser.

I didn't think it was that long.  Maybe I grabbed more than I meant to, but where is this in the style guide?  I don't see it in the one that gets linked to rejected edits: https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,22.0.html
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on August 01, 2021, 12:58:48 pm
Quote
Digital Items
Digital items should use 1-2 paragraphs from the "description" or summary text as shown on the platform for the game. It should not include all text. The text used should not be the text from a specific platform's public facing website as viewed on a computer or other device using a web browser.

I didn't think it was that long.  Maybe I grabbed more than I meant to, but where is this in the style guide?  I don't see it in the one that gets linked to rejected edits: https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,22.0.html

The rule is located at the very bottom (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10837.msg178500.html#msg178500) of the Box Text section of the Advanced Style Guide.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on August 02, 2021, 10:00:43 am
We want to discourage people from copy and pasting large portions of text from other websites because there are issues with copyright. This had been brought up in the past and that 1-2 paragraph thing came from an admin post at some point in the past. Our focus is not to archive or document websites, there are other places to retain that information such as archive.org.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Cartagia on August 04, 2021, 09:32:46 am
I submitted box art for https://vgcollect.com/item/204095 a few days ago, and it hasn't gotten approved or rejected.  Just making sure it is actually in the queue and I don't need to resubmit.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on August 04, 2021, 09:34:31 am
I submitted box art for https://vgcollect.com/item/204095 a few days ago, and it hasn't gotten approved or rejected.  Just making sure it is actually in the queue and I don't need to resubmit.

Not in queue.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Cartagia on August 04, 2021, 09:39:52 am
I'll send it back up, then.  Thanks!

EDIT: Resent.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on August 04, 2021, 10:14:54 am
I'll send it back up, then.  Thanks!

EDIT: Resent.

Still not there. Upload it into your Gallery and I can see if there is something wrong with the image.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Cartagia on August 04, 2021, 01:16:01 pm
I'll send it back up, then.  Thanks!

EDIT: Resent.

Still not there. Upload it into your Gallery and I can see if there is something wrong with the image.

Had to size down to get to the gallery, so that's my guess, but I'll let you take a look.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on August 04, 2021, 03:00:05 pm
There are two reasons
1. The image was likely too large
2. the image format you uploaded is .PNG which is not supported by the site (this type of file is what creates the black box images)

When you upload an image and submit on an entry, the site is doing 2 things.

The first thing it is doing is running a timer.
The second thing it is doing is that it is copying the image from your browser to a temporary location on the server. Then it runs the image file through the process to transform the image into what the site will ultimately use. This means it opens the temp file, then performs the resize operation, then saves a new temp file (or replaces the existing), all while it sends the required info to the Edit Queue or the commands to create a new entry, whichever it is you are doing. If you are uploading 2 images, it does it twice, or maybe 3 if three. Unknown to me if it is synchronous for your request, or with others, or if there is an internal operation queue or pecking order...

BUT back on track. If the amount of time it takes to complete the tasks in the "second thing" takes longer than the timer is set to go for, then you will have things like:
- updates that never show up in the queue
- broken entries (the 0 or -- blank entries)

Remember that the largest image (in dimensions) that ends up on an entry is 200 px wide, so you can shrink an image down all the way to 200 px wide and it won't be distorted by the site. I do not know what the capable top end of image dimensions are but as I said I always try to shrink down to 800 px width at the most for the images I upload myself.

So for this, shrink the image dimension size down and export to JPG type instead of PNG.

I'll send it back up, then.  Thanks!

EDIT: Resent.

Still not there. Upload it into your Gallery and I can see if there is something wrong with the image.

Had to size down to get to the gallery, so that's my guess, but I'll let you take a look.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: price5474 on August 05, 2021, 12:27:11 am
I accidentally set this as an eshop title and it should have been physical release.  Can it be change or do I need to redo it?

https://vgcollect.com/item/204376

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on August 05, 2021, 10:28:29 am
I accidentally set this as an eshop title and it should have been physical release.  Can it be change or do I need to redo it?

https://vgcollect.com/item/204376

It is done now but in the future you can submit an edit to change the category.

One note about the description you put, when you use something like "additional item number" on its own, you should be putting where that item number is. Is it on the front, back or spine?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on August 05, 2021, 12:51:28 pm
One note about the description you put, when you use something like "additional item number" on its own, you should be putting where that item number is. Is it on the front, back or spine?

That was my mistake in a later edit. I forgot to type out the item number's location.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: vivigamer on August 05, 2021, 01:48:40 pm
Hi,

I recently went through some of the UK Piggyback strategy guides as there were a few which weren't listed.

I noticed the guide for Final Fantasy XII was listed wrong and went to change it and since it has been edited our of proportion!

It's now just listed as Final Fantasy XII... which makes it sound like a game...

https://vgcollect.com/item/39356

I have found details on the official Piggyback website which states it as the Collector's Edition version of the guide. So I have been trying to name it as

Final Fantasy XII The Complete Official Guide - Collector's Edition

Yet for some reason the mod/editor but the other details further down in the listing instead...

I'll leave a link to the website which displays details on the guide below:
https://www.piggyback.com/en/guide/final-fantasy-xii/
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on August 05, 2021, 02:24:56 pm
I recently went through some of the UK Piggyback strategy guides as there were a few which weren't listed.

When looking at any item that is entered into the database, it's important to inspect just how the item is labeled and not how it was marketed as online. From the images I found (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/143951352182?hash=item21842b5176:g:qgAAAOSwjVtfs9ND) of the guide book online, the item is non-descript aside from the front cover text "Final Fantasy XII," with zero indication that the item is "The Complete Official Guide" or of its being a "Collector's Edition." I've just updated all the Final Fantasy XII entries within the Strategy Guide category. There are now three entries which could be named "Final Fantasy XII," so I've updated the other two entries to include a descriptor in their entry name titles.

Recently, there was a relevant thread (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,11412.0.html) regarding how items categorized as Strategy Guide should be analyzed to determine its corresponding entry's Item Name, which I would encourage you to read, as every new entry you created yesterday had Item Names with an incorrect title format. You were relying on the use of hyphens when instead the colon is correct. Hyphens are reserved for signifying an item's edition. Over the years, style guide rules have changed, meaning many entries have incorrect Item Names and other information. Do not rely on previously created entries to determine how a new entry should be formatted; instead, consult the style guide.

Also, I will note that your edits for 105125 (https://vgcollect.com/item/105125) and 105126 (https://vgcollect.com/item/105126) were rejected because you are attempting to convert the entries into something they were not intended to represent. I haven't been able to determine either of the items' proper names given the low resolution of the images, but I can tell that the item names are not in English, as the images you presented were. Feel free to create new entries for these items.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on August 06, 2021, 10:31:48 am
Additionally, this particular guide is using a photo that is apparently missing the dust jacket. The dust jacket has more information, presuming this is the correct item:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/124833889359

If this is the same as this Piggyback book you are posting about, the front image should be replaced and then the item can be named:
Final Fantasy XII: The Complete Guide - Limited Edition

Hi,

I recently went through some of the UK Piggyback strategy guides as there were a few which weren't listed.

I noticed the guide for Final Fantasy XII was listed wrong and went to change it and since it has been edited our of proportion!

It's now just listed as Final Fantasy XII... which makes it sound like a game...

https://vgcollect.com/item/39356

I have found details on the official Piggyback website which states it as the Collector's Edition version of the guide. So I have been trying to name it as

Final Fantasy XII The Complete Official Guide - Collector's Edition

Yet for some reason the mod/editor but the other details further down in the listing instead...

I'll leave a link to the website which displays details on the guide below:
https://www.piggyback.com/en/guide/final-fantasy-xii/
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on August 06, 2021, 10:36:33 am
Also, I will note that your edits for 105125 (https://vgcollect.com/item/105125) and 105126 (https://vgcollect.com/item/105126) were rejected because you are attempting to convert the entries into something they were not intended to represent.

ID'ed and fixed titles for those two. They are the ones from Spain.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: vivigamer on August 08, 2021, 08:27:43 am
I just had time to get the guide out and see that yes it is indeed Limited Edition - Unlike the website :P

I also took photos of the guides front and back too for the listing.
So are we settled with the name for the listing being:
Final Fantasy XII: The Complete Guide - Limited Edition   ?

I will make a separate listing for the KH guide - the image was so small I didn't notice the language difference.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on August 08, 2021, 12:56:05 pm
So are we settled with the name for the listing being:
Final Fantasy XII: The Complete Guide - Limited Edition   ?

All good! Your edits are live.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Agozer on August 13, 2021, 05:32:02 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/127116

Please remove the [UK] TLD from the title.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on August 13, 2021, 08:29:07 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/127116

Please remove the [UK] TLD from the title.

TLD has been removed.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: weirdfeline on August 19, 2021, 08:50:23 am
Blank
https://vgcollect.com/item/204942
https://vgcollect.com/item/204943
https://vgcollect.com/item/204944


(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Agozer on August 24, 2021, 02:33:36 pm
Colud the developer "h.a.n.d. Inc." renamed to just "h.a.n.d."?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on August 25, 2021, 09:35:38 am
Colud the developer "h.a.n.d. Inc." renamed to just "h.a.n.d."?

Despite the logo not having the Inc. part in it, three references do:
https://www.hand.co.jp/ (in the page footer)
https://www.mobygames.com/company/hand-inc
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/company/78226-hand-inc

It doesn't matter to me, and I personally feel that business type designations should not be used unless required, however I do not think there is any directive on name formatting for Developers or Publishers. So not really sure whether we would change it because "it looks better" vs information accuracy. Not that I believe there would be some huge outcry from the community by changing this one name... LMK what you think.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Agozer on August 25, 2021, 10:38:02 am
Colud the developer "h.a.n.d. Inc." renamed to just "h.a.n.d."?

Despite the logo not having the Inc. part in it, three references do:
https://www.hand.co.jp/ (in the page footer)
https://www.mobygames.com/company/hand-inc
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/company/78226-hand-inc

It doesn't matter to me, and I personally feel that business type designations should not be used unless required, however I do not think there is any directive on name formatting for Developers or Publishers. So not really sure whether we would change it because "it looks better" vs information accuracy. Not that I believe there would be some huge outcry from the community by changing this one name... LMK what you think.

I'm of the same mind that business type designations should not be used. I've never been a fan of business type designations is mainly because no one ever says in a conversation "Hey, did you play that new game from Square Enix Co. Ltd?" or something similar.

Plus, personally I don't think this site in particular is very interested in the business side of these corporations, at least as far as database entries are concerned. If it is, it really shouldn't be.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on August 25, 2021, 12:03:33 pm
I think because that Mobygames has it in their name, we are better off matching their name and keeping it like it is for now.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: masamune on August 26, 2021, 11:58:33 am
Please remove the "Comes with 4 pin badges" in the description of https://www.vgcollect.com/item/190282.

That listing is for the standard edition which does not come with any pins. Only the Day One Edition has them.

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Flashback2012 on August 31, 2021, 01:48:13 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/205422

Created this entry and after submitting I noticed a typo. I went to edit said typo and when I checked my edits, I noticed it had been rejected. Then I checked the entry and see completely different (and lacking) info. Disc Item Number is gone and details about what's included are also absent like the number of pages of the artbook.  ???
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on August 31, 2021, 12:33:52 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/205422

Created this entry and after submitting I noticed a typo. I went to edit said typo and when I checked my edits, I noticed it had been rejected. Then I checked the entry and see completely different (and lacking) info. Disc Item Number is gone and details about what's included are also absent like the number of pages of the artbook.  ???

When an item within the database has multiple packaging layers such as many Collector's Edition items do, I disregard information that is found within sub-layer items, such as what is inside a game case. At the same time, the entry isn't for the game—it's for the collector's edition package as a whole. More detailed descriptions can be added to entries that are representative of that particular item itself. So, in this instance, if an entry was to be created for Akiba's Trip: Hellbound & Debriefed the game itself, adding information as to what's inside (disc item numbers, Let's Visit booklet, reversible cover art) would be acceptable. To me, this helps prevent multiple entries being provided the same information. I don't necessarily think that this approach to stylization is spelled out in the style guide, or if it is an unwritten rule, or if it is just my matter of thinking. If it isn't ideal, then I'll let tripredacus give their word on it, and a subsequent edit can be made.

As far as adding different information to the 10th Anniversary Edition entry, I added more specific information such as actual item names while being concise with my wording. Additionally, I disregarded all mentions to the ItemName title itself, as the style guide explains. Information in the Description field does not need to repeat information that is found in other fields.


Description
Information Duplication and Things to Avoid
Information that exists on the entry in another field should not also be put into description. Examples:
- do not refer to the item by its title, as this is present in the Item Name
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on September 01, 2021, 10:51:39 am
The part about not re-using information is to prevent things like using the name from the title (not necessarily the name of the game) in the description. It was specifically to combat people using a Desc like so:

"Akiba's Trip: Hellbound & Debriefed 10th Anniversary Edition includes an original soundtrack..."

Or to put into Description the barcode, or item number, release date/etc that is put into the other fields already. It is OK to put in a Dev or Pub if they are not options in the dropdown.

For this one, the Includes is a good start but
- "sealed game" doesn't help anyone. Here you can put in the name of the game as well as the item number or barcode on it. If you want to put in the item number from the disc then it can be done on this line OR above the includes list.
- remove the term "exclusive" from the Artbook item unless this is actually in the name. Now, in this line item it is OK to put how many pages there are if you want.
- if the item contains a soundtrack CD and we know the name of it, use the name of the CD, if not then it should be put as "soundtrack CD". Terms like "Original Soundtrack" is obviously copied from the marketing material and we should not be using that.

There are some considerations to have where you need not always put every bit of info in a Description for items included inside of a set, especially for items that have or can have their own entries.

Examples
- If the Game inside is also available separately, then it is better to put things like what paperwork is inside it, or the disc item number onto that entry instead.
- the artbook is allowed a separate entry in the books section, so the info like how many pages are in it should be on that entry for sure and whatever other details.
- same goes for an audio CD, they can get entries made in the Swag Soundtrack section where you can put in anything even IFPI numbers if you want.

For these, you just want to make sure that the description in the LE Includes section has enough identifying info so that you could find the other entries if you looked for them. This is why using the generic terms like "game name" or "artbook" or "original soundtrack" is not a good idea. Maybe someday we can link things together to make it easier to know exactly what those things are.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: wizgecko on September 11, 2021, 10:33:33 am
I'm pretty sure this isn't actually the cover for Catherine on PS3, so I believe it should be changed: https://vgcollect.com/item/50628
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on September 11, 2021, 12:10:29 pm
I'm pretty sure this isn't actually the cover for Catherine on PS3, so I believe it should be changed: https://vgcollect.com/item/50628

This is the cover—or the alternate cover, anyway. You can find an online listing for it here (https://www.ebay.com/itm/324514231598). It was offered as a less explicit version for "sensitive shoppers," as Atlus is on record saying (https://www.siliconera.com/alternate-catherine-cover-art-for-north-america/).
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: wizgecko on September 11, 2021, 03:27:14 pm
I'm pretty sure this isn't actually the cover for Catherine on PS3, so I believe it should be changed: https://vgcollect.com/item/50628

This is the cover—or the alternate cover, anyway. You can find an online listing for it here (https://www.ebay.com/itm/324514231598). It was offered as a less explicit version for "sensitive shoppers," as Atlus is on record saying (https://www.siliconera.com/alternate-catherine-cover-art-for-north-america/).

Ah, fair enough.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: n64ra on September 18, 2021, 09:34:19 am
Why did Sneak King (https://www.vgcollect.com/item/11185 (https://www.vgcollect.com/item/11185)) move platforms from Xbox 360 to Xbox? It was Xbox 360 for a long time, and that my vote for its location as:


If folks want an Xbox version listed, entries for both platforms should exist. Then last - whoever initiated this, missed the other 67% of King Games in this situation - Big Bumpin' (https://www.vgcollect.com/item/11184) and PocketBike Racer (https://www.vgcollect.com/item/11186).

Please move Sneak King back to Xbox 360 platform. Thank you
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Cartagia on September 18, 2021, 09:40:11 am
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,11413.0.html (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,11413.0.html)

Co-branded games go into the category of the oldest console.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on September 18, 2021, 12:41:29 pm
As Cartagia has mentioned, there was a recent community discussion and later poll to determine how co-branded items should be categorized.

whoever initiated this, missed the other 67% of King Games in this situation - Big Bumpin' (https://www.vgcollect.com/item/11184) and PocketBike Racer (https://www.vgcollect.com/item/11186).

Big Bumpin' and PocketBike Racer have both been moved to Xbox [NA].
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: masamune on September 18, 2021, 06:25:07 pm
I wanted to know why my box text addition to Wrath of the Black Manta was rejected?  :'(

https://www.vgcollect.com/item/5691
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on September 18, 2021, 06:42:47 pm
I wanted to know why my box text addition to Wrath of the Black Manta was rejected?  :'(

https://www.vgcollect.com/item/5691

The submitted text included trademark symbols which should be omitted, as outlined in the Box Text post (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10837.msg178500.html#msg178500) of the Advanced Style Guide. If the text is submitted without these symbols, it can be approved.

Quote
Box Text
trade symbols
In general, you should not use trade symbols such as ®, ©, ℠ or ™ in the Box Text.
The only times that this should be used is when a variation is present and these types of symbols are part of the variation.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: n64ra on September 21, 2021, 11:49:01 am
https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,11413.0.html (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,11413.0.html)

Co-branded games go into the category of the oldest console.

Thanks the explanation and pointing me to the discussion, but ugh, no...... Let each user decide how they want the data represented in their collection.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: wizgecko on September 25, 2021, 11:15:32 am
Say, I was wondering why my edit to this cover of Wind Waker HD was rejected: https://vgcollect.com/item/99252
The one currently up doesn't look to be very high quality, and while my edit wasn't of the greatest quality either, I thought it still looked sharper than the one currently up, for the lack of a better term.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on September 26, 2021, 11:50:50 am
Say, I was wondering why my edit to this cover of Wind Waker HD was rejected: https://vgcollect.com/item/99252
The one currently up doesn't look to be very high quality, and while my edit wasn't of the greatest quality either, I thought it still looked sharper than the one currently up, for the lack of a better term.

Your edit was rejected due to the proposed artwork being incorrect—not due to its quality. The artwork you proposed is for an item already within the database located here (https://vgcollect.com/item/157209).
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Agozer on September 30, 2021, 12:04:30 pm
nvm
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: 62gaming on October 04, 2021, 03:33:10 pm
A while back my submission for the following item was corrected to not having the [FR] tag on the basis that it did not have the red warning present:
https://vgcollect.com/item/190018

While it's taken me a bit to get around to it, I scanned the box at archive.org to show the side which contains the warning so I've resubmitted the title:
https://ia801502.us.archive.org/12/items/megaman-battle-network-euu-box/2.5%20Box%20Back%20Scan.jpg
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on October 04, 2021, 03:55:33 pm
A while back my submission for the following item was corrected to not having the [FR] tag on the basis that it did not have the red warning present:
https://vgcollect.com/item/190018

Thanks for the clarification and effort put in toward explaining. Your edits have been approved.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: skifreeslut89 on October 06, 2021, 03:50:54 am
Hi! Slowly trying get to grips with the formatting rules while adding my Switch collection to the database here (sorry to whoever moderates my edits, for all the rejected ones, I hope they'll improve going forward  :) ).

One particular rejection I do not agree with. It was to the following entry: https://vgcollect.com/item/187561 and the notification said that the info I supplied was incorrect. But I don't think it is.

Cross referencing the barcode, it matches my boxed version, as does the item number. The boxed version contains the same box of pins that the North American "Day-one Edition" (https://vgcollect.com/item/194919) does, but in Europe it was just sold under the name "Double Pack", which again is what the database entry mentioned seems to refer to.

The game case within the box has a separate barcode (5056280422884) and has different artwork on the cover than the box (a lot more similar to the Japanese non-double pack release (https://vgcollect.com/item/164134)).

The EAN can be seen in this listing, proving that it refers to the box with game and merch: https://www.proshop.se/Spel/Robotics-Notes-Double-Pack-Collector-Edition-Nintendo-Switch-Aeventyr/2884385

In the above listing you can also see the cover of the game case that I am refering to.

I can take some pictures of my own copy to prove it if needed, but my camera is too potato to produce database-worthy images.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on October 06, 2021, 09:30:10 am
Unless I misread what you posted, you don't say what you tried to change that got rejected.

This entry: https://vgcollect.com/item/187561
matches this physical release: https://ebay.com/itm/114978541119
Has green triangle.

While there is no entry for this release: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115000852682
which would seem to be [ES][FR], despite being sold in Italy it has no SIAE label.
Has purple triangle.

There is no entry for the game case from inside of the purple triangle box.
I cannot find a picture of the case from inside the green triangle box.
There is no entry for the RubberRoad pin box in Swag category.

In regards to your proshop.se link, we cannot use an EAN from a website like that as being proof of anything. Too often a website will use wrong region EAN (especially for EU website or website that imports EU items) or will use a pre-release/invalid EAN or an EAN that was never used on an actual item. So for proving EAN usage it always has to be photo proof.

Hi! Slowly trying get to grips with the formatting rules while adding my Switch collection to the database here (sorry to whoever moderates my edits, for all the rejected ones, I hope they'll improve going forward  :) ).

One particular rejection I do not agree with. It was to the following entry: https://vgcollect.com/item/187561 and the notification said that the info I supplied was incorrect. But I don't think it is.

Cross referencing the barcode, it matches my boxed version, as does the item number. The boxed version contains the same box of pins that the North American "Day-one Edition" (https://vgcollect.com/item/194919) does, but in Europe it was just sold under the name "Double Pack", which again is what the database entry mentioned seems to refer to.

The game case within the box has a separate barcode (5056280422884) and has different artwork on the cover than the box (a lot more similar to the Japanese non-double pack release (https://vgcollect.com/item/164134)).

The EAN can be seen in this listing, proving that it refers to the box with game and merch: https://www.proshop.se/Spel/Robotics-Notes-Double-Pack-Collector-Edition-Nintendo-Switch-Aeventyr/2884385

In the above listing you can also see the cover of the game case that I am refering to.

I can take some pictures of my own copy to prove it if needed, but my camera is too potato to produce database-worthy images.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on October 06, 2021, 12:18:12 pm
One particular rejection I do not agree with. It was to the following entry: https://vgcollect.com/item/187561 and the notification said that the info I supplied was incorrect. But I don't think it is.

I handled your latest edits. Concerning 187561 (https://vgcollect.com/item/187561), I knew beforehand that the Day One Edition had released in North America and rejected your Description edit submission not fully knowing if the same item had also released in Europe, as I couldn't find any listings for it online. If you submit the information again, it can be approved, since we know that only the standard Double Pack released in Europe.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: wizgecko on October 08, 2021, 01:05:41 pm
Say, I was wondering why my edit to this cover of Wind Waker HD was rejected: https://vgcollect.com/item/99252
The one currently up doesn't look to be very high quality, and while my edit wasn't of the greatest quality either, I thought it still looked sharper than the one currently up, for the lack of a better term.

Your edit was rejected due to the proposed artwork being incorrect—not due to its quality. The artwork you proposed is for an item already within the database located here (https://vgcollect.com/item/157209).

Right, but I could swear the version I posted didn't have that three-colored circular "stamp" in the corner that says "U.A.E., Sauda Arabia, Malaysia, Singapore Official Product".
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: sworddude on October 10, 2021, 02:27:24 pm
I'd like to know how these 3 (4) pictures get rejected compared to the unrecognizable ones that we currently have for this listing


https://vgcollect.com/item/110305

Also it's a steel case it's not a cardboard box how are people going to recognize it if you only show it partly from the front this make no sense to me not to mention a pretty damaged example aswell i don't see why we can't show a nice example as a whole  this is way better than the current picture. not to mention the form factor we can't treat it the same way as a regular boxed game even with a nice example cut out it would be unrecognizable. it's in a different shape compared to a cardboard box and it's rounded

(https://i.imgur.com/U6xyAyB.jpg)

Also I don't see how content pics are denied wich is definitely nice for these kinda items

(https://i.imgur.com/aSsG4NR.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/3EHJkxK.jpg)

I finally also don't see how this picture of cardridge is worse than the discolored version we have atm

(https://i.imgur.com/orbnrw6.jpg)


What are the reasons behind rejecting these perfectly fine images especially compared to what we have atm. I don't see any water marks
I don't really see a reason how especially the first picture is denied.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on October 10, 2021, 02:48:31 pm
For all matters related to why submitted edits were previously rejected, please post here (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10555.0.html).

Also it's a steel case it's not a cardboard box

Also I don't see how content pics are denied wich is definitely nice for these kinda items

In the Description field, it is detailed how this item is a tin box while also noting what contents are included with this release. Presently, nowhere in the entry does it state that this item is contained in cardboard packaging. In the Item Images post (https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,10837.msg177804.html#msg177804) of the Advanced Style Guide, you can find the rule regarding how images should be treated for the cart slot.

Quote
Cart art slot for physical Games, Consoles and Accessories
The third art slot, refered to as "cart-art" or cart/disc/item, must be of game or item iteself and not include additional items in the picture. For example, an add-on for a console should not also show the console. A game should show the cart, disk or disc image and not additional packaging. If there are multiple discs, they can be present. Discs should not be shown in the case, but on their own. Image quality rules prevail, we will allow a low quality image if being used as proof of existance.

I finally also don't see how this picture of cardridge is worse than the discolored version we have atm

In the same post of the Advanced Style Guide, you can also find this general rule that applies to all submitted images:

Quote
General image rules
Should be cropped to the edges of the focus of the picture

All four of your submitted images are poorer quality when compared to the images that currently represent this entry, while none of them accurately depict the back of this item, as you repeatedly submitted images to occupy this slot erroneously.

I don't see any water marks

Your submissions were not rejected due to watermarks being present.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: sworddude on October 10, 2021, 02:52:00 pm

All four of your submitted images are poorer quality when compared to the images that currently represent this entry

The back I understand, no contents pics allowed was a bit different some time ago. but the first picture is definitely the front and a way better image I'd say.

Highest Image quality in that case is quite a questionable rule to me considering the image quality differences are very hard to spot when they get cropped to a tiny image on the site. if they retained their original size sure, but If I'm not mistaken you don't have acces to that when you look at the database.

Interesting system, it is what it is I guess.

Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: wolff242 on October 10, 2021, 03:34:23 pm
What a rude response. No wonder so many things are missing on here.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on October 11, 2021, 09:27:22 am

All four of your submitted images are poorer quality when compared to the images that currently represent this entry

The back I understand, no contents pics allowed was a bit different some time ago. but the first picture is definitely the front and a way better image I'd say.

Highest Image quality in that case is quite a questionable rule to me considering the image quality differences are very hard to spot when they get cropped to a tiny image on the site. if they retained their original size sure, but If I'm not mistaken you don't have acces to that when you look at the database.

Interesting system, it is what it is I guess.

Cart art always was to be the cart of disc on a game entry. This is from the original Style Guide that was put into the forum. While there may have been a period of time where people were putting "content pictures" in cart art on game entries, they were doing it on their own volition.

If the picture you put here is of the item you own, then it would be a better pic for front because it doesn't have the rust in the current pic. But the replacement picture should be formatted or angled in the same way. IDK if you can find a good way to take a pic of the lid from straight above without getting a reflection on it, or if it is possible to scan that part.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on October 11, 2021, 01:18:35 pm
I was able to find a better photo of the packaging with minimal glare that I would like to believe satisfies everyone and have updated the image art.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: sworddude on October 11, 2021, 06:32:07 pm
looks good, nice improvement indeed
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: nathan776 on October 18, 2021, 06:14:44 pm
Just looking for a clarification on Barcodes for EU games since I'm slowly going through what I have.
Since items without TLD's in the EU category are presumed to be UK releases, I'm unsure why my edit was rejected.

https://vgcollect.com/item/173471
My edit: 5051892202657
Rejected for: 5051892202893
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on October 18, 2021, 10:26:18 pm
Just looking for a clarification on Barcodes for EU games since I'm slowly going through what I have.
Since items without TLD's in the EU category are presumed to be UK releases, I'm unsure why my edit was rejected.

https://vgcollect.com/item/173471
My edit: 5051892202657
Rejected for: 5051892202893

There are two UK versions for this item. However, this entry's back image—which is original to the entry's submission—features the barcode ending in 2893. That is why your submission was rejected. I wasn't able to discern any differences from the two items aside from barcode information, but the spine for each item may differ from another, as well as what content is found inside the packaging.

5051892202657 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224527859098)
5051892202893 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/124725404684)

Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: nathan776 on October 19, 2021, 02:23:49 am
Ah, I see. Thank you.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on October 19, 2021, 11:58:24 am
I should have mentioned this before in my previous post, but the item ending with 2657 is more than acceptable to add into the database as a separate entry. It will require the barcode information as a descriptor in its entry name, but that should only serve as a placeholder until we can identify what the spine item numbers for both items are. Once that needed information is known, then the spine item numbers would be better examples for use as title descriptors. That is, if the spine item numbers are, in fact, different from another.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: 62gaming on October 24, 2021, 01:15:51 pm
Hi, this is in regards to the name edits I made to: https://vgcollect.com/item/59622 (https://vgcollect.com/item/59622)

You rejected my edit on the grounds that I put the alt name where the regular should be, and I understand that. However, you then put an incorrectly formatted version of the Japanese character text into the alt name.

You can see on the box that it is formatted the way I did it. No spaces, with a bullet point in the title.
https://i.imgur.com/YSmXDvQ.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/YSmXDvQ.jpg)

I have re-submitted the alt title, including the English title as well.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on October 24, 2021, 01:57:42 pm
I have re-submitted the alt title, including the English title as well.

Regardless of the bullet point being present in the Alt-Name field, the entry still appears when using the search tool (ウィザードリィIII•ダイヤモンドの騎士 versus ウィザードリィ III ダイヤモンドの騎士.) However, the symbol you've submitted is incorrect also, as you've submitted a bullet point (•) instead of what it actually used in Japanese called the nakakuro or interpunct (・). As far as I'm aware, the interpunct is used in Japanese text to indicate a separation between words as its main use, although it is not always present and is more of a stylistic decision for easier reading.

In the past, I have omitted such characters from the Alt-Name field as the space character accomplishes the same result and is more user-friendly to use for most of VGC's users, although perhaps I should reconsider that personal practice. Nevertheless, since the box text does show the interpunct as part of the title, your edit has again been rejected but will be approved if the correct symbol is submitted.

So, to be clear, submit "ウィザードリィIII・ダイヤモンドの騎士, Knight of Diamonds." If we're to transcribe everything present, we may as well be precise and use the correct symbols, which it seems you also agree to how the information should be entered.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: 62gaming on October 24, 2021, 02:54:15 pm
I have re-submitted the alt title, including the English title as well.

Regardless of the bullet point being present in the Alt-Name field, the entry still appears when using the search tool (ウィザードリィIII•ダイヤモンドの騎士 versus ウィザードリィ III ダイヤモンドの騎士.) However, the symbol you've submitted is incorrect also, as you've submitted a bullet point (•) instead of what it actually used in Japanese called the nakakuro or interpunct (・). As far as I'm aware, the interpunct is used in Japanese text to indicate a separation between words as its main use, although it is not always present and is more of a stylistic decision for easier reading.

In the past, I have omitted such characters from the Alt-Name field as the space character accomplishes the same result and is more user-friendly to use for most of VGC's users, although perhaps I should reconsider that personal practice. Nevertheless, since the box text does show the interpunct as part of the title, your edit has again been rejected but will be approved if the correct symbol is submitted.

So, to be clear, submit "ウィザードリィIII・ダイヤモンドの騎士, Knight of Diamonds." If we're to transcribe everything present, we may as well be precise and use the correct symbols, which it seems you also agree to how the information should be entered.


Genuinely didn't know it was called the interpunct and I appreciate the new knowledge. I have re-submitted the alt name, thanks!
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: ignition365 on November 01, 2021, 09:11:24 am
edit: nevermind, I guess it is an accessory.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: wowgek7 on November 01, 2021, 08:31:54 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/173348

this is the US version not the aasian version my edit was rejected which makes no sense because no asian game has an esrb rating
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on November 02, 2021, 12:12:09 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/173348

this is the US version not the aasian version my edit was rejected which makes no sense because no asian game has an esrb rating

This item is similar to the U.A.E. / Saudi Arabia / Malaysia / Singapore items like this (https://vgcollect.com/item/167513), which are items that were released across Asia but retain an ESRB rating. Both 173348 and Kemco RPG Omnibus (https://vgcollect.com/item/175617) are items that were released in across Asia, so they are placed in the CN category. There are plenty of instances of items having ratings that differ from the market they were actually released in, such as many items imported to Australia.

Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: nathan776 on November 05, 2021, 02:25:48 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/109545

Barcode is for UK Version, which already exists in the database so I'm going to remove the barcode.

What is the procedure for some of these more generic database entries without any discernible way to identify if they are X or Y variant?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on November 05, 2021, 03:11:22 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/109545

Barcode is for UK Version, which already exists in the database so I'm going to remove the barcode.

What is the procedure for some of these more generic database entries without any discernible way to identify if they are X or Y variant?

Approved.

In EU categories, generic entries without discerning information would be modified to represent a general Europe release if such release exists and is not currently within the database. In the event that a general Europe release does not exist, the UK version (if, again, it also exists) would then default to this status. However, in this specific instance, it seems that no general Europe release exists while the UK release (https://vgcollect.com/item/39626) already exists within the database. Personally, I would probably merge 109545 with 39626; however, since tripredacus actually submitted 109545 long ago, I'll wait for their action.

I know that a France-specific (https://www.ebay.fr/itm/265228210892) release exists with the same cover art, but I highly doubt that the entry was submitted with that intent, as I'm sure that the entry would have been submitted with the [FR] TLD.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: nathan776 on November 08, 2021, 09:45:09 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/99098

INL-XT200202-CL-UK -> INL-XT200202-UK

The cover art and name suggests the title is the standard release. I believe the cl references it being a classics version of the game.

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on November 08, 2021, 10:26:18 am
It was before I had understood that sites would use a stock photo to represent any PEGI release in Europe but with no identifying information.

For generic EU entries like this, where a PEGI rating is present but no info, there are priorities for changing it. First is that an English language European release with PEGI rating must be found. These can be found on Ebay UK under either UK or European Union specific search parameters, or a [DK][FI][NO][SE] release. If neither of those are found to exist, then the entry would be changed to UK.

And that appears to be the case here, there is no English EU release and there is no [DK][FI][NO][SE] release, so it will be merged with UK version.

https://vgcollect.com/item/109545

Barcode is for UK Version, which already exists in the database so I'm going to remove the barcode.

What is the procedure for some of these more generic database entries without any discernible way to identify if they are X or Y variant?

Approved.

In EU categories, generic entries without discerning information would be modified to represent a general Europe release if such release exists and is not currently within the database. In the event that a general Europe release does not exist, the UK version (if, again, it also exists) would then default to this status. However, in this specific instance, it seems that no general Europe release exists while the UK release (https://vgcollect.com/item/39626) already exists within the database. Personally, I would probably merge 109545 with 39626; however, since tripredacus actually submitted 109545 long ago, I'll wait for their action.

I know that a France-specific (https://www.ebay.fr/itm/265228210892) release exists with the same cover art, but I highly doubt that the entry was submitted with that intent, as I'm sure that the entry would have been submitted with the [FR] TLD.

Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: vivigamer on November 10, 2021, 02:24:49 am
Can't pass this one...
OG: Virtua Fighter 5 - https://vgcollect.com/item/147

NEW - VirtuE Fighter 5 - https://vgcollect.com/item/208583
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: deanos on November 14, 2021, 10:15:59 am
These entries in Wii (eu) section are wrong, they are not exist.
https://vgcollect.com/item/78732
https://vgcollect.com/item/192711
https://vgcollect.com/item/166228
https://vgcollect.com/item/107979
https://vgcollect.com/item/124470
https://vgcollect.com/item/43177


(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: weirdfeline on November 27, 2021, 02:31:45 am
Blank
https://vgcollect.com/item/209401

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: koemo1 on November 28, 2021, 04:27:28 pm
Accidentally posted these games in the Eshop section, as opposed to the physical Nintendo switch releases:

https://vgcollect.com/item/209456
https://vgcollect.com/item/209455


(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: kw4s on November 30, 2021, 11:36:16 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/172267

edit to change the title from "VenusBlood FRONTIER" to "VenusBlood FRONTIER International - Package Edition" was rejected, not quite sure why (but I'm guessing either all-caps subtitle or "Package Edition"). Anyway, I'd rather just ask someone here to figure it out, than risk another rejected edit.

So, current title is not correct, there is no such thing as "VenusBlood FRONTIER" in the west (and the platform is PC [NA] - physical PC release in NA region), western release uses the "International" suffix in title, as seen here https://ninetail.info/td10I/VenusBloodFRONTIER_intl_en.html (slightly NSFW, screenshot of the important part: https://ibb.co/K5MfyHh)

As for "Package Edition", vndb refers to this release as "Package Edition", original kickstarter referred to all physical tiers as "Physical Package"

Also, the naming of this item should be consistent with https://vgcollect.com/item/209520 they are from same publisher, in same series, use same "International" suffix for western release, in both cases vndb refers to those releases as "Package Edition" while on a kickstarter they are referred to as "Physical Package".
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on November 30, 2021, 11:47:11 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/172267

edit to change the title from "VenusBlood FRONTIER" to "VenusBlood FRONTIER International - Package Edition" was rejected, not quite sure why (but I'm guessing either all-caps subtitle

The reject was indeed because of the caps.

Going to have to take your word on whether "Package Edition" is actually present on the box, since I can't find any pictures of the actual box for this or the other one you linked to. I already corrected the caps issue on that other entry.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: kw4s on November 30, 2021, 11:58:54 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/172267

edit to change the title from "VenusBlood FRONTIER" to "VenusBlood FRONTIER International - Package Edition" was rejected, not quite sure why (but I'm guessing either all-caps subtitle

The reject was indeed because of the caps.

Going to have to take your word on whether "Package Edition" is actually present on the box, since I can't find any pictures of the actual box for this or the other one you linked to. I already corrected the caps issue on that other entry.

okay, this is awkward beacause I just looked over both of the boxes and there is no "Package Edition", so yeah......

I'm guessing then
https://vgcollect.com/item/172267 should be just "VenusBlood Frontier International"
https://vgcollect.com/item/209520 should be just "VenusBlood Hollow International"
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on November 30, 2021, 02:15:42 pm
okay, this is awkward beacause I just looked over both of the boxes and there is no "Package Edition", so yeah......

I'm guessing then
https://vgcollect.com/item/172267 should be just "VenusBlood Frontier International"
https://vgcollect.com/item/209520 should be just "VenusBlood Hollow International"

Edit submissions have been approved.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: nathan776 on November 30, 2021, 04:11:19 pm
Fireburst
https://vgcollect.com/item/88568
Game doesn't seem to have a physical release.

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: Cartagia on December 03, 2021, 08:57:57 am
As far as I can tell there is no physical PS5 release of Mortal Kombat.
https://vgcollect.com/item/209798

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: fazerco on December 05, 2021, 10:31:07 am
Edit done on this one because it is the French edition.

https://vgcollect.com/item/140175 (https://vgcollect.com/item/140175)

UK entered new
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on December 05, 2021, 01:21:25 pm
Edit done on this one because it is the French edition.

https://vgcollect.com/item/140175 (https://vgcollect.com/item/140175)

Entry updated. This item seems to instead be the NL version.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: fazerco on December 06, 2021, 12:50:25 pm
Edit done on this one because it is the French edition.

https://vgcollect.com/item/140175 (https://vgcollect.com/item/140175)

Entry updated. This item seems to instead be the NL version.

Ok, i only know that there is english and french on the back.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: nathan776 on December 06, 2021, 01:05:38 pm
Deus Ex: Human Revolution
https://vgcollect.com/item/47324

Barcode and Item Number are for a [BE][NL] Benelux Edition. Not sure if it'd be best to just remove them or change the entry to reflect it.

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: weirdfeline on December 06, 2021, 11:17:46 pm
Blank
https://vgcollect.com/item/209980
https://vgcollect.com/item/209983
https://vgcollect.com/item/209984


(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: jeffmandm on December 10, 2021, 06:21:29 pm
I mistakenly put in information from the PSP release for the PS2 release of Pro Yakyuu Spirits 2010, and have since pushed edits to it to give the proper information/box.
https://vgcollect.com/item/210356
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on December 10, 2021, 06:45:53 pm
I mistakenly put in information from the PSP release for the PS2 release of Pro Yakyuu Spirits 2010, and have since pushed edits to it to give the proper information/box.
https://vgcollect.com/item/210356

Edit submissions have been approved.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: nathan776 on December 11, 2021, 02:27:18 pm
Borderlands (red Pegi rating)
https://vgcollect.com/item/166633
Red Pegi seems to be the only Pegi variant.

https://vgcollect.com/item/210475
Needs to be deleted. Game wasn't under gamefaqs name and didn't show during a search.

https://vgcollect.com/item/20177
Wrong barcode + Item back

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: sharanden on December 16, 2021, 02:57:51 pm
This item was never released.

Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles Remastered (Nintendo Switch NA physical cartridge)
https://vgcollect.com/item/165529

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: nathan776 on December 17, 2021, 08:50:40 pm
Please cancel my pending edits on Pacific Carriers [RU] & Pacific Carriers. Realised I was correct originally with the barcode 4260231340610 being released with english box art but russian subtitles so there isn't a reason to include the barcode in the title.
 
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on December 17, 2021, 10:24:17 pm
Please cancel my pending edits on Pacific Carriers [RU] & Pacific Carriers. Realised I was correct originally with the barcode 4260231340610 being released with english box art but russian subtitles so there isn't a reason to include the barcode in the title.

Edits rejected. I can't find images for the RU release, so I'll take your word on its details.

That being said, refrain from using the barcode information as a title descriptor unless absolutely necessary. I know that this particular item has no outer item number, so, if the information you originally submitted had been correct, something else such as varying ratings or regional packaging text would be more ideal to use.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: masamune on December 18, 2021, 06:00:07 pm
Somebody changed the listing I recently created here: https://www.vgcollect.com/item/210990

The title is incorrect now. It should have (N-Z) at the end of the title. If you look at the cover of the book, it does indeed say N-Z at the end of the title.

Please change the title for this listing the way it originally was.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on December 18, 2021, 07:05:31 pm
Somebody changed the listing I recently created here: https://www.vgcollect.com/item/210990

The title is incorrect now. It should have (N-Z) at the end of the title. If you look at the cover of the book, it does indeed say N-Z at the end of the title.

Please change the title for this listing the way it originally was.

I updated the entry name so that "Vol" was changed to "Volume," as the title showcases. I omitted "N-Z" from the title as it was originally set within parenthesis which are reserved for title descriptors and doesn't seem that much of a title component. However, I'll update it once more so that it reads "SNES Omnibus, The: The Super Nintendo and Its Games Volume 2: N-Z."
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: masamune on December 18, 2021, 10:17:39 pm
Somebody changed the listing I recently created here: https://www.vgcollect.com/item/210990

The title is incorrect now. It should have (N-Z) at the end of the title. If you look at the cover of the book, it does indeed say N-Z at the end of the title.

Please change the title for this listing the way it originally was.

I updated the entry name so that "Vol" was changed to "Volume," as the title showcases. I omitted "N-Z" from the title as it was originally set within parenthesis which are reserved for title descriptors and doesn't seem that much of a title component. However, I'll update it once more so that it reads "SNES Omnibus, The: The Super Nintendo and Its Games Volume 2: N-Z."

That looks better. Can you also edit this one to get rid of the parenthesis as well: https://www.vgcollect.com/item/155175

Those two books complement each other.

Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on December 19, 2021, 01:05:42 pm
That looks better. Can you also edit this one to get rid of the parenthesis as well: https://www.vgcollect.com/item/155175

Updated.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: koemo1 on December 21, 2021, 07:06:31 am
Last night I have added a bunch of 3DS and Wii U eshop images, which have been accepted by a database mod.
However, they have not changed on the website yet.
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on December 21, 2021, 09:25:52 am
Can you give some examples?
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: koemo1 on December 21, 2021, 09:50:50 am
https://vgcollect.com/item/178967
https://vgcollect.com/item/137268
https://vgcollect.com/item/193723
https://vgcollect.com/item/195184
https://vgcollect.com/item/193721
https://vgcollect.com/item/193720
https://vgcollect.com/item/193719
https://vgcollect.com/item/195203
https://vgcollect.com/item/193718
https://vgcollect.com/item/134550
https://vgcollect.com/item/193707

These all have improper cover art, which I have changed. However, I do not see the new images, yet the log says it has been changed by me.
https://vgcollect.com/item/192819
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: tripredacus on December 21, 2021, 12:05:01 pm
https://vgcollect.com/item/178967
https://vgcollect.com/item/137268
https://vgcollect.com/item/193723
https://vgcollect.com/item/195184
https://vgcollect.com/item/193721
https://vgcollect.com/item/193720
https://vgcollect.com/item/193719
https://vgcollect.com/item/195203
https://vgcollect.com/item/193718
https://vgcollect.com/item/134550
https://vgcollect.com/item/193707

These all have improper cover art, which I have changed. However, I do not see the new images, yet the log says it has been changed by me.
https://vgcollect.com/item/192819

Try the Ctrl+F5 on any of the entries to see if the image changes. Using just the 7th Dragon III Code, I changed the art to one of the download release arts on Mobygames
https://vgcollect.com/item/178967
and the image is matching the new one. The art that was previously showing for me was the same as what GameFAQs has for the EU download release:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/3ds/174915-7th-dragon-iii-code-vfd/images/1633341
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: koemo1 on December 21, 2021, 12:38:09 pm
ctrl f5 works for me, thanks!
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: telly on December 23, 2021, 12:53:37 pm
Blank

https://vgcollect.com/item/203237

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: price5474 on December 28, 2021, 05:20:18 pm
Sorry I somehow ended up with a blank entry along with the newly created one.  I guess the images ended up being too big all together.

https://vgcollect.com/item/211468

(http://i.imgur.com/ho21rwl.gif)
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: weirdfeline on December 31, 2021, 10:12:49 am
Blank
https://vgcollect.com/item/211599
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: dhaabi on December 31, 2021, 11:40:31 am
Blank
https://vgcollect.com/item/211599

The user who originally created the entry provided later edit submissions to fill out what was once a blank entry. 211599 is now Gunvalkyrie [FR] (https://vgcollect.com/item/211599).
Title: Re: Error Listings and rejected edits 2021
Post by: nathan776 on January 02, 2022, 07:33:21 pm
To clarify my edit on - https://vgcollect.com/item/107498 as its slightly confusing.

The item number reflects a limited edition version. For some reason the Italian version of the game does not have the Limited edition text on the front cover but does on the back. Not certain why this is the case.