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Title: Your Opinions Of The Original Nintendo Wii Console
Post by: oldgamerz on May 28, 2019, 09:21:43 pm
Currently I don't use my Wii at all, but when the Wii first came out I really liked the idea. It was different, and Wii Sports, and also this arcade table top game compilation. Is probably the only 2 game I liked and played on the Wii

In my opinion the Wii is is better when hooked up to a massive screen television. With a room that is large enough to make it more fun to play standing up. Like Nintendo's previous 2 consoles. Some of the Wii games are excellent party games like the "Just Dance" games. My sisters used to love one of the Just Dance games for the original Wii. There were lots of family and friends playing the Wii sometimes when I would visit a relatives house.

But I wish that I knew more of the video games that made use of the Mii feature like Wii Resort or Wii Sports. I loved the Idea of the create a character mode with the Wii menu than playing as your created character and build up it's levels.

I like the Wii :-\ but I don't really like how most games have the motion controller. Other words I only like to play the with another person. I really have good memories of playing the original Wii Console with friends and family in summer or on the weekend visits to a relatives house
Title: Re: Your Opinions Of The Original Nintendo Wii Console
Post by: Cartagia on May 28, 2019, 09:36:21 pm
The Wii is a solid console that was a victim of its own success.  There are fantastic first party games, terrific online games, easy to mod, but there is such a deluge of crap shovelware that the system legacy has been tainted.
Title: Re: Your Opinions Of The Original Nintendo Wii Console
Post by: stealthrush on May 28, 2019, 09:37:52 pm
I've skipped the system altogether when it first came out from 2006 onward. Only recently, 2016 I decided to buy Nintendo Wii for the first time. Since the hype died down, and games are dirt cheap  :P.

My first impression was the Wii-mote is fun to use, better with the Plus add-on. The first two games I played were Super Mario Bro. Wii and Mario Power Tennis. Solid game play, and the motion controls in Mario Tennis made it more enjoyable than on the Gamecube original IMO.

Donkey Kong Country Returns, and Sin and Punishment: Star Successor were also excellent games. I find myself coming back to Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz, especially the mini-games with friends around.

Overall I think Wii gets 50% right, but seem to have an abundance of shovel-ware compared to GameCube.
Title: Re: Your Opinions Of The Original Nintendo Wii Console
Post by: hoshichiri on May 28, 2019, 11:23:50 pm
The Wii is a solid system, with a fairly diverse library, & I enjoyed it immensely. Also, now is the time for anyone who's interested to buy in, while supply is plentiful & before nostalgia spikes kick in about 10-15 years from now.
Title: Re: Your Opinions Of The Original Nintendo Wii Console
Post by: bikingjahuty on May 28, 2019, 11:42:34 pm
While the console is 95% shovelware, it's still an awesome console for those 5% of games that are amazing on it. At the time it was new I was very into it and played the hell out of Wii Sports, Twilight Princess, and Elebits. As I got back into collecting, and especially when the games on the Wii got cheaper, I found a ton of great games on it, some I knew about, some I didn't. Beyond the console itself, I have a lot of great memories around getting my Wii and playing it with my girlfriend at the time and various friends.
Title: Re: Your Opinions Of The Original Nintendo Wii Console
Post by: aliensstudios on May 29, 2019, 12:01:26 am
I like it because it offered a lot of really cool and unique experiences versus something like the Switch which for the most part is last-gen ports and rereleases of Wii U games. While it's true that it has a lot of shovelware, there are still TONS of great games on the console.
Title: Re: Your Opinions Of The Original Nintendo Wii Console
Post by: sworddude on May 29, 2019, 08:06:02 am
A fantastic console, the gimmicky controls for the good games never annoyed me that much for some games it was actually a bit better.

Not the biggest library of all time and since there are not that many good games you could say that the wii has allot of shovelware while in reality ps2 is by far the king in that with the difference being that the wii barely has over 100 good games and the ps2 having over 500 - 600 great games while having 2000+ games of trash. tons more good games to cover all that trash

While the wii did not have the most games on there, it did however have some of the greatest games released very fond memories of the wii consoles

mario galaxy series, mario kart wii, one of the best in the series especially in the modding community, smash bros brawl and xenoblade chornicles sin and punishment.

honrable mentions from the past, pokemon battle revoltutions and the pokepark spinoff series. those 3d pokemon games copying the anime unlike the rpg pokemon games where nice. Those adventure games where fun, a bit on the easy side but games don;t need to be hard for them to be fun.
Title: Re: Your Opinions Of The Original Nintendo Wii Console
Post by: ferraroso on May 29, 2019, 09:21:04 am
In my opinion it was the console with the largest amount of shovelware like... ever.
I've never been a Nintendo fan and, when it was officially announced I remember myself making fun of it and immediately thinking that its motion controls were nothing more than a gimmick (and I still stand by this opinion). There are many games with huge potential, but the motion controls that they tried to force on us ruined the console and most of its library to me...

It is, by far, the least favorite console in my collection...
Title: Re: Your Opinions Of The Original Nintendo Wii Console
Post by: baileykun on May 29, 2019, 11:58:50 am
I love the Wii. I still play the games on my Wii U now. There's still games I want now like Fragile Dreams and Another Code R.

No More Heroes 1&2, Trauma Center, Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles, Harvest Moon Animal Parade, among others. I still love those games. Motion controls were hit or miss, but when they hit I ate that shit up. My only major disappointment was Skyward Sword. I hated the shield parry.
Title: Re: Your Opinions Of The Original Nintendo Wii Console
Post by: kypherion on May 29, 2019, 12:05:43 pm
Solid console. Great game line-up, backwards compatibility, and most importantly to me: Homebrew! Hacking this white rectangle you can turn it in to a memcard manager or a DVD player or emulator! Totally worth $40-50!
Title: Re: Your Opinions Of The Original Nintendo Wii Console
Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 29, 2019, 03:54:41 pm
I found it pretty poor, but I never liked motion controls which plagued a lot of the games on it like Super Mario Galaxy, Skyward Sword, etc...
Title: Re: Your Opinions Of The Original Nintendo Wii Console
Post by: Cartagia on May 29, 2019, 07:58:50 pm
I found it pretty poor, but I never liked motion controls which plagued a lot of the games on it like Super Mario Galaxy, Skyward Sword, etc...
There’s only one game where this really bothers me: Donkey Kong Country Returns .  It’s completely normal controls except for one crucial move that requires you to shake the Wii-mote.  It’s pretty irritating.
Title: Re: Your Opinions Of The Original Nintendo Wii Console
Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 29, 2019, 08:41:26 pm
I found it pretty poor, but I never liked motion controls which plagued a lot of the games on it like Super Mario Galaxy, Skyward Sword, etc...
There’s only one game where this really bothers me: Donkey Kong Country Returns .  It’s completely normal controls except for one crucial move that requires you to shake the Wii-mote.  It’s pretty irritating.

Super Mario Galaxy is sorta like that too, where it's generally a normal game Mario game, but then certain abilities require you to use motion controls.  That's the stuff I really hate, because it's almost a normal game, but then waggle controls are shoved in just to make it annoying.  Something that annoyingly made its way into Super Mario Odyssey too.
Title: Re: Your Opinions Of The Original Nintendo Wii Console
Post by: Cartagia on May 29, 2019, 08:53:26 pm
I found Galaxy’s to be rather unobtrusive (a flick of the wrist should do ya), and in Odyssey they at least aren’t required.  In DKCR you have to hold Wii-mote sideways and violently shake up and down with both hands for the ground pound, so it’s a much bigger offender in my eyes.

I tend to leave Skyward Sword out of these convos because the controls are 100% necessary for the game they built.
Title: Re: Your Opinions Of The Original Nintendo Wii Console
Post by: kamikazekeeg on May 29, 2019, 09:37:46 pm
I found Galaxy’s to be rather unobtrusive (a flick of the wrist should do ya), and in Odyssey they at least aren’t required.  In DKCR you have to hold Wii-mote sideways and violently shake up and down with both hands for the ground pound, so it’s a much bigger offender in my eyes.

I tend to leave Skyward Sword out of these convos because the controls are 100% necessary for the game they built.

For Skyward Sword, I just hate the motion controls themselves, but at least the game was built around them, rather than being more of just an afterthought gimmick.  With Odyssey, if I remember right, while the motion controls aren't required, the best version of a move that required either a flick or whatever could only be done with motion, which at that point, I don't even know why they added it.  It's been a long time since i played Odyssey,  so I don't remember specifically what it was, it just seemed like an annoying thing to realize.  That's the stuff that bugs me the most.  Sure, I don't like motion controls, but if you are gonna have them, then at least go all in to justify their existence.
Title: Re: Your Opinions Of The Original Nintendo Wii Console
Post by: sworddude on May 30, 2019, 05:17:07 am
Speed runners where forced to use joy cons with motion controls for the best variants of certain moves wich the pro controller just can't do even when you flick it.

for normal gameplay it won't matter though
Title: Re: Your Opinions Of The Original Nintendo Wii Console
Post by: ferraroso on May 30, 2019, 07:49:24 am
I found Galaxy’s to be rather unobtrusive (a flick of the wrist should do ya), and in Odyssey they at least aren’t required.  In DKCR you have to hold Wii-mote sideways and violently shake up and down with both hands for the ground pound, so it’s a much bigger offender in my eyes.

I tend to leave Skyward Sword out of these convos because the controls are 100% necessary for the game they built.

For Skyward Sword, I just hate the motion controls themselves, but at least the game was built around them, rather than being more of just an afterthought gimmick.  With Odyssey, if I remember right, while the motion controls aren't required, the best version of a move that required either a flick or whatever could only be done with motion, which at that point, I don't even know why they added it.  It's been a long time since i played Odyssey,  so I don't remember specifically what it was, it just seemed like an annoying thing to realize.  That's the stuff that bugs me the most.  Sure, I don't like motion controls, but if you are gonna have them, then at least go all in to justify their existence.

I am sorry for being so negative... As I usually say, if you don't have anything good to say about something, it is usually better not to say anything at all. But to what concerns motion controls...
I have NEVER enjoyed ANY experience involving motion control on video games. NEVER!
In my opinion they NEVER (EVER) are necessary and EVERYTIME I see a game that depends on it, I simply give up on playing it. For me, it is simply the most annoying thing there has ever existed in gaming...

Please, forgive me for all the rant...
Title: Re: Your Opinions Of The Original Nintendo Wii Console
Post by: kypherion on May 30, 2019, 12:10:01 pm
For controls I'll discuss the Trauma Center series.

I thought they were pretty solid and that the depth in forcing the defibrillator forward has handled well. Horizontal and vertical movements are handled just fine and tilting bones back in to place is also pretty solid. Overall the motion controls work really well and very intriguing concept to see motion controls for a SURGERY game of all things.
Title: Re: Your Opinions Of The Original Nintendo Wii Console
Post by: emporerdragon on May 30, 2019, 03:01:30 pm
While my Wii didn't get used as much as my 360, I still got plenty of enjoyment  out of it.

The motion controls were probably the biggest problem, not because that they were there, but because most developers had no idea how to use them. As a result, there were so many games were the motion controls were just tacked on and/or were a hindrance, making them much harder to enjoy.

The other thing I hated were all the stupid, useless peripherals. So many pointless plastic golf clubs, tennis rackets, baseball bats, bowling balls, etc., etc. for the remotes to snap into to make the game play worse. I worked in the Electronics department during that time and at one point we had 6 feet of shelves dedicated to that crap.
Title: Re: Your Opinions Of The Original Nintendo Wii Console
Post by: wartoy on May 30, 2019, 05:25:30 pm
The Wii is a really solid system it's true their is a lot of shovelware but to me thats part of it's charm. You can find alot of really surprisingly good games no one knows about. imo it's a great system to collect for
Title: Re: Your Opinions Of The Original Nintendo Wii Console
Post by: wrk40 on June 02, 2019, 03:52:39 am
I like general concept of wii moution control is something but in poland we have specific point of view on situation nintendo sell wii here and pack up 1 year later most of wii games here are imports so shovel ware wasn't that much problem here because stores don't risk selling games that don't have  know names like mario, metroid etc so we have smaler catalogue to play (90% of games are almost imposible to buy here without ebay) backward compatiblity on wii is almost uselees here get gamecube game if they were never sale here 8) and wii is almost imposible to broken but high underpowered. 9/10 for hardware 7/10 for controler and games are hard subject for discuse me favorite game for system is legend of zelda twilight princess yes i know you can play it on gamecube and wiiu in hd. that me opinion and some story of poland wii.
Title: Re: Your Opinions Of The Original Nintendo Wii Console
Post by: kashell on June 03, 2019, 09:04:06 am
I like it as long as I don't have to worry about motion controls. I've never liked that gimmick. The Kirby titles on there were a blast, and I really enjoyed my time with Arc Rise Fantasia.
Title: Re: Your Opinions Of The Original Nintendo Wii Console
Post by: betelgeuse on June 03, 2019, 12:23:12 pm
I didn’t get a whole lot of use out of it, other than bowling (maybe the SNES on virtual console was a close 2nd).
I liked the compact system design, but the motion sensor wire was very flimsy.
Title: Re: Your Opinions Of The Original Nintendo Wii Console
Post by: Warmsignal on June 15, 2019, 10:09:35 pm
Love the Wii. It's my favorite "modern" game console, and is home to the fantastic and underrated Super Mario Galaxy among many other great Nintendo titles, as well as a lot of interesting third party one-offs. It really excels at arcade style sporting games, and games built around the use of motion. Some of the shovel-ware was so bad that it was good. Definitely a unique system and that's what makes it.
Title: Re: Your Opinions Of The Original Nintendo Wii Console
Post by: masamune on August 15, 2019, 05:29:43 pm
I think the 95% shovelware that another poster stated is a bit exaggerated.

It's a fine system with a diverse line-up of quality games.

Yes, there were quite a few shovelware titles, but every system had them, even your most beloved systems.

You can create a knockout library on the Wii system.

Some people who hate on the system don't realize how much fun their missing out on.
Title: Re: Your Opinions Of The Original Nintendo Wii Console
Post by: shfan on August 16, 2019, 07:19:05 am
I'm not a fan of the motion controls, but the Wii has been and will continue to be a cherished system for me, there's so many first-party and third-party games for it that are fun to play. There's a huge amount of shovelware for it, but then the supermarket's full of food I don't like, I just don't put it in my basket.
Title: Re: Your Opinions Of The Original Nintendo Wii Console
Post by: pzeke on October 31, 2019, 07:36:50 am
I like it. At the time the Wii and the NDS were essentially the only two systems I played the most on. Regardless of the massive library of shovelware that the system has, which is a constant gripe most everyone always has, and for good reason, there are some truly great gems that I think everyone that has a Wii should experience. Like with most everything, the Wii has it pros and cons, but it’s definitely a great console.
Title: Re: Your Opinions Of The Original Nintendo Wii Console
Post by: koemo1 on December 11, 2019, 05:30:32 am
I try to collect the good games for the Wii, however I don't really feel like picking up the Nintendo published ones except maybe Zelda.
Finding obscure good third party games is more exciting!
Title: Re: Your Opinions Of The Original Nintendo Wii Console
Post by: vivigamer on December 11, 2019, 06:05:58 am
If it wasn't for Operation Rainfall I wouldn't have a Nintendo Wii at all. All 3 games got me very excited for the system and upon purchasing 1 I never regretted it - Xenoblade Chronicles was worth getting the system for alone and among the greatest JRPG experiences I've ever had.

I've always struggled to align with Nintendo & it's not for the lack of trying but there is always something that just puts me off, wether it be dungeon crawling, silent protagonists or that Sphere level design in Mario Galaxy there's always something which stops me from really enjoying the majority of Nintendo titles - This applies to all consoles and not just the Wii. It's bizarre as I like cute creatures in things & generally enjoy children's TV shows so you'd think I'd eat up all of Nintendo's properties but I never do.

Most of the games I like on the Wii are very Un-Nintendoy. I've already mentioned Operation Rainfall but another stand out title is Silent Hill Shattered Memories - the Wii version being the best as the PS2 version is technically inferior. That game was great it's interactive narrative. Epic Mickey was a brilliant Platformer which utilised the Wii's controls effectively and I loved how they explored the past characters of Disney.

Beyond that though, I don't have much else to say about the system, sadly was it was not built for HD all my Wii content is put in storage. I had a Wii-U but not much really stood out on that console for me to keep it out - I had it on my TV Unit for 2 years and barely touched it. While the Wii-U console is in HD, the Wii games aren't upscaled which is a big set back for me.
Title: Re: Your Opinions Of The Original Nintendo Wii Console
Post by: shatterstar69 on February 11, 2020, 07:15:25 am
I have a love/hate relationship with the Wii probably like many of you.  There are some really great games that utilize the motion controls really well and there are some games that just don't.  I bought a Wii in the early days and after a while I just found that I played my PS3 and 360 more while the Wii just collected dust so I ended up selling it.  When the black Wii console came out with Motion Plus I bought it again and actually have enjoyed it quite a bit more than I initially did.  One thing I do regret is not purchasing more games from the Virtual Console library before Nintendo discontinued it. 
Title: Re: Your Opinions Of The Original Nintendo Wii Console
Post by: hatkid on February 11, 2020, 06:07:44 pm
I mostly use my Wii as a Gamecube but there are a few Wii games I do enjoy, like NSMB Wii and Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn though the latter doesn't even make use of the motion control gimmick, thankfully. Tbf to the Wii, that's never really been a console I've explored the nonshovelware titles all that much so there's probably a good chunk of stuff I'm missing out on.
Title: Re: Your Opinions Of The Original Nintendo Wii Console
Post by: astralsoul13 on February 14, 2020, 12:13:02 pm
As a console I think it was bad. Experimental and successful, sure. It was ahead of its time with motion controls and as such by today's standards the motion controls feel very primitive and don't always work well. Looking at the console and its library as a big picture, too much shovelware and too many games shoehorned motion controls into them for no good reason. Taking a closer look at some of the system's best games reveals absolutely masterful game design - Mario Galaxy, Donkey Kong Country Returns, Mario Kart Wii, Kirby's Epic Yarn - the system at its best was absolutely crushing it.

So overall, bad system - outdated and underpowered even when it came out, and iffy motion controls - with some absolute masterpiece games on the system.

EDIT: I will also add the inclusion of the Virtual Console was also one of the system's highlights and though getting classic games digitally is very commonplace now, the original Virtual Console felt revolutionary and had a pretty good selection of games as well.