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General and Gaming => Classic Video Games => Topic started by: oldgamerz on October 06, 2019, 08:00:17 am
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I played both an origional Game Boy and A Sega Game Gear, and I really don't have a favorite one over the other. Because my dad bought me both handhelds growing up, I loved my see through Original Gameboy, it was fun and It could play it longer on the go
but when my dad bought me a Sega Game Gear I was amazed and loved it, because I did like the color screen better had an ac adapted and even a magnifying glass. I never like how the Sega Game Gear would eat up 6 AA batteries in such a shorter time then then my GameBoy
"MY PROS AND CONS OF SEGA GAME GEAR VS ALL GAMEBOYS"
GAME BOY PROS AND CONS:
The Sega Game Gear took 6 AA was heavy and wide. and didn't last as long on the go, as the Gameboy handhelds did without a change of batteries. or in the GBA SP's instance a recharge. The GameBoy rivals only needed 4 AA batteries.
Both these handhelds and every single Game boy and Sega Game Gear to my knowledge can both be plugged into a wall and use batteries. The early GameBoys before the Advanced SP didn't have a back-lit screen unlike it's rival handheld the Sega Game Gear
I need to re-explore the Gameboy Advanced SP. they are back lit, and can be plugged into a wall and Gamecube? I think? but only with both the special cord and a special disc. also a Game boy original cartridges can be plugged into this special SNES cartridge for Super Nintendo use. unlike the Sega Game Gear Handheld to the Sega Genesis or Sega's Master System.
also the GameBoy lineup had more games I think than the Sega Game Gear ever had
GAME GEAR PROS AND CONS
Graphically speaking, the original GameBoy and Gameboy color could not compete graphically to the Sega Game Gear though. I just did some research on the Sega Game Gear and someone said that Game Gear games even had more colors. Than both the Sega Master System and the Sega Genesis consoles could handle.
GAME GEAR GAMES
are best played plugged into a wall and using a magnifier.
Sega F-15 Strike Eagle is better on the Game Gear than on the Genesis, other than that it's pretty much the same experience as the Genesis console,
Original Game Boy Games are better when you have sunlight also Gameboys tend to be more reliable the the Sega Game Gear.
I prefer the game Gear's arcade ports like Mortal Kombat for the Game Gear Instead of the Mortal Kombat game for the gameboy their is a big difference from what I remember
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Gameboy has games that are excellent the entire megaman lineup on gameboy are basicly just nes games and they look crisp and have great sounds and music. kirby's dreamland also a great example
game gear games are very pixelated while gameboy classic games where crisp looking. Game gear did not age well even if the games had full colours.
Game gear is not superior over master system
mortal kombat is better than on gameboy classic but even the game gear version is trash. and game gear does not have super great games such as gameboy.
Colour palette does not matter if the games grapics are less not to mention that handheld consoles even with better specs are always held back and have lesser results than their console counter parts even when they have less power and such. also let's not start about the sound on game gear that's way worse than them console counter parts. sound on handheld devices are nothing to write home about. aside from them nintendo gameboy/ color consoles with them pretty good 8 bit sound tracks. Only the gba could really compete in terms of sounds with them other retro consoles.
GBA had twice the power of snes yet the games on snes look better. allot gets lost to make games on handheld consoles. inferior ports of yoshi's island and mario world lesser sounds lesser grapics etc.
Sega F-15 Strike Eagle is better on the Game Gear than on the Genesis, other than that it's pretty much the same experience as the Genesis console,
Original Game Boy Games are better when you have sunlight also Gameboys tend to be more reliable the the Sega Game Gear.
I prefer the game Gear's arcade ports like Mortal Kombat for the Game Gear Instead of the Mortal Kombat game for the gameboy their is a big difference from what I remember
could you explain to me why game gear version is better than genesis version because I'm not seeing it. game is trash on both consoles but the differences are big and I don;t see how the game gear version is better.
Game gear version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nLlCr5esD0
genesis version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-bNrcfC6qg
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I have not played either handheld in over 20 years so I apologize if I sounded a little harsh on the Gameboy the post is based on my memory as a child and over 20-25 years ago, All and all I am not into any handhelds that much F15 strike eagle 2 is absolute trash on the Genesis, But the first F15 strike eagle (edit) I am not sure if I was playing F15 strike eagle, but whatever fighter jet game it was a lot of fun from what I remember on the Game Gear
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It's actually a shame the whole portable console war of the mid to late 90s looking back. It was so much more of a fatal defeat to Sega than most aknowledge. Could lead to a good portion of why they went under. You had LCD screen, 6 battery having, console graphic having, TANKS, selling millions less than A brick that you had to play under a lamp that was 10 years old. Gameboy had like half the specs, and was old. But it was a Gameboy. You had to have one.
And it's for the tried and true fact when it comes to Nintendo. They are invincible with handhelds. Especially in the 90s.
I don't usually say this on here because I know it'll offend people. And it's only my preference. And I don't want to be that console fanboy guy. But quite honestly. Sega was never even close to Nintendo in anything they made. Even with their peak which is the Genesis in most people's eyes. The Genesis isn't even close to the Super Nintendo imo. It can't even sit at the same table. Gameboy trumps Gamegear, Trumps Nomad. Then if we get into pinnacle gameboys like Advance SP. Folding screen DS. Boy the margain gets larger.
Nintendo is unbeatable in handhelds. They understand the simplistic formula of durability, convenience and first party exclusives. PSP came close and PSP did well. Vita got completely destroyed. And nobody has even taken an attempt since.
Then Nintendo surprises the world and releases the most powerful handheld console of all time. Nintendo Switch. Which is also a home console but with the new Switch Lite, it's portable only. And is completely untouchable.
Nintendo has made a lot of mistakes in their life. But never in the handheld world imo.
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We were a Nintendo family going up. So, no experience with a Game Gear other than playing my friend's.
I'd still like to get one for myself someday. I think I have a GG title on my 3DS, haha.
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FIVE EARLY LATE 1980'S AND EARLY 1990'S HANDHELD GRAPHIC COMPARISON
In case you do not know the original game-boy really had a green screen but the games were fun
WARNING I FOUND THESE PHOTO LINKS OVER THE INTERNET, (FIVE PHOTOS MAY NEED TO LOAD)
Gauntlet (Tiger Electronics handheld game)
1985
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/QlUlm2k2sw8/hqdefault.jpg)
"TETRIS" GAME BOY ORIGIONAL 1989
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Atari Lynx was released in (1989)
Blue Lightning for Atari Lynx
(https://videogamecritic.com/images/lynx/blue_lightning.png)
Sylvan Tale on Game Gear
The Game Gear Handheld was released in(1990)
(https://assets.pcmag.com/media/images/571262-sylvan-tale-1995.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/72/36/df/7236dfc637a8924ceb30b73e07c23e7c.jpg)
Can't Find Game Title On Internet
TurboExpress released in the year(1990)
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Well, if you stick to the specs only and considering that it can play any TurboChip (HuCard) released for its big brother, I would say the TurboExpress (PC Engine GT) would maybe the best handheld of its generation.
However, since the Sega's 8-bit console is my favorite ever and the Game Gear is basically a portable (and somewhat improved) Master System, I have to stick with it!
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/72/36/df/7236dfc637a8924ceb30b73e07c23e7c.jpg)
Can't Find Game Title On Internet
TurboExpress released in the year(1990)
By the way, the game shown in this pic is Bonk's Adventure (PC Genjin).
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I do think is Gameboy Advanced SP is the best Game Boy that ever came out, since with either a regular GameBoy Advanced or the newer GameBoy Advenced SP models. You can play virtually every single Gameboy game that came out including GameBoy Color and GameBoy Original games as well as all GameBoy Advanced games :)
GameBoy Advanced SP Model example
(https://vgcollect.com/images/front-box-art/117597.jpg)
regular un back lite version GameBoy Advanced
(https://vgcollect.com/images/cart-art/7899.jpg)
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Well, if you stick to the specs only and considering that it can play any TurboChip (HuCard) released for its big brother, I would say the TurboExpress (PC Engine GT) would maybe the best handheld of its generation.
However, since the Sega's 8-bit console is my favorite ever and the Game Gear is basically a portable (and somewhat improved) Master System, I have to stick with it!
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/72/36/df/7236dfc637a8924ceb30b73e07c23e7c.jpg)
Can't Find Game Title On Internet
TurboExpress released in the year(1990)
By the way, the game shown in this pic is Bonk's Adventure (PC Genjin).
that's like saying that a sega nomad is a handheld console while clearly it's just a portable home console. it does not have a unique handheld game library
genesis has better specs than pc engine.
also the turbo express costed 250$ brand new i mean that was more pricy than a sega genesis home console at 189 or snes at 199 at the very beginning or it's big brother the home console turbografx at 199.
Obviously everything can be made high end if you have enough money to throw around. and if it is released a few years later.
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I want that Gauntlet Tiger LCD now
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I just want to add that the NGPC is terrible due to not having a backlit screen.
But the Game Boy didn't seem to be an issue for me. Perhaps it is due to me not even using a Game Boy once I got a Game Gear.
If I recall, my first Game Boy was one of the color series that was sold in the clear plastic organizer. I didn't buy a Game Gear until around 1998 or so... which was the Majesco version. But I had played a lot of Game Gear when borrowing it from my friends or cousin.
The Turbo Express was a thing that I had only seen in magazines, and that one time it was in the Enemy of the State movie.
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I think by now my thoughts might already be known. I honestly kinda hate the Game Boy. I think it's a woefully bad system. I remember trying to play it, and having to pitch the screen in a certain direction towards the light just see it. Half the time the graphics were so lame and shrunk down you could barely tell what you were looking at. Nintendo didn't take portable gaming seriously back then, it was just a novelty. It was seen as a toy that kept kids quiet. Hence the name, Game Boy. It even sounds like a child's toy. It doesn't matter what titles it has, they were all abominations to play on Game Boy. You have to have the Game Boy player for TV, otherwise forget it.
Game Gear I never knew about until much later, and I felt cheated. I didn't play one until I got into game collecting, and even then I was very impressed with what it could do for an early 90s handheld. The games look great, IMO. Basically every other handheld I've researched or come across since has been infinitely more appealing than the Game Boy was. All of the competition should have stomped the GB, but the cheap price tag and tiny form factor of the Game Boy made it parent's number one choice for their kid... kind of like the Tiger handheld games.
Sure, the GG eats through batteries, but rechargeable batteries exist for a reason. There were also third party rechargeable packs you could buy for GG. Yeah, it makes it more bulky, but I don't see what the issue is with people's perception of size and handheld systems. Like, I don't want a handheld to be tiny anyways. I don't want to put a handheld system literally into my pocket. Nobody does that nowadays, nobody complains they can't fit their 3DS XL into their pocket and nor should they be trying to. You need to a get a proper travel case for it whether it's a Game Boy, or a Switch. Size in not an issue, and bigger screen is better. Color screen is better. Lit up screen is better. Graphical power is better, lol. All of which Nintendo has finally embraced in their approach to handhelds thankfully.
Nowadays, I don't play a lot of old-school handhelds, but when I get the craving to do so it's usually Game Gear. Which is a platform I still collect for, although not actively at the moment. I'm actually somewhat intrigued by the Lynx as well as the Neo Geo Pocket Color... and may consider starting collections for those at some point. Game Boy on the other hand, I don't collect for. Probably never will.
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It's kinda insane that people pay a ton of money for a backlit gba ags 101 wich was only slightly better but still with a small screen. the backlit difference was not that much better in my experience than a normal gba sp. it's just slightly better maybe you'll have a nice image with hars sunlight outside but probably not. besides when you play inside or at night you'll have the same image in most cases.
if I play an old school handheld 99 out of 100 times i use a gameboy player to play them on the big screen. It's like I'm playing a slightly lesser snes title obviously for different games that where not released on snes. gameboy player gives handheld games a totally different experience.
or if where going with non retro handhelds
i mean ds psp and 3ds are good especially the 3ds xl screen was a game changer for a decent size screen for handheld. it sure as hell increased my enjoyment for playing ds games on the 3ds xl
While switch is also is a handheld there is absolutely no reason for me to ever want to play that portable, tv only for me as far as switch goes. i would be pissed if i bought a switch lite only to find out that it's portable only if i where stupid enough to miss the fact that it was portable only.
backlit wasn;t that big of a deal back in the day you had some items that gave you the light that you would need wich where way cheaper than having a build in backlit. otherwise in the case of neo feo pocket you can always use a trusty reading light.
GBA is my number one handheld console for the simple fact that i can get a retro tv console experience thanks to the gameboy player aside from having an excellent 16 bit 2d library with a ton of exclusives not released on other consoles.
Classic DS comes in 2nd. even if it had the tv option it would not push gba of that spot but it's library ain't that far off. some excellent 2d games on here aswell all be it a hell lot less also some excellent 3d games but the grapics in those departments let's just say the ds ain't the greatest for 3d grapics.
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GBA>3DS>GB>GBC>GG>DS
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Game Boy over the Game Gear all day, any day. I got both as birthday presents (separately), and of the two, I used the Game Boy the most, while the Game Gear was essentially a waste of money. To this day my mom still throws jabs at me over how she wasted money on "that black brick", as she refers to it (it's sort of become a joke by now).
While the Game Gear, at the time, was something to marvel at because, oh my, it's in color, the Game Boy was, and still is far better, and has a wide variety of games, too. Don't get me started with the Game Gear capacitor thing.
Emulating the Game Gear on the other hand has been quite fun for me, I will admit. It has some cool gems.
I don't usually say this on here because I know it'll offend people. And it's only my preference. And I don't want to be that console fanboy guy. But quite honestly. Sega was never even close to Nintendo in anything they made. Even with their peak which is the Genesis in most people's eyes.
The Genesis isn't even close to the Super Nintendo imo. It can't even sit at the same table. Gameboy trumps Gamegear, Trumps Nomad. Then if we get into pinnacle gameboys like Advance SP. Folding screen DS. Boy the margain gets larger.
Yeah, I have to agree with you.
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I don't usually say this on here because I know it'll offend people. And it's only my preference. And I don't want to be that console fanboy guy. But quite honestly. Sega was never even close to Nintendo in anything they made. Even with their peak which is the Genesis in most people's eyes.
The Genesis isn't even close to the Super Nintendo imo. It can't even sit at the same table. Gameboy trumps Gamegear, Trumps Nomad. Then if we get into pinnacle gameboys like Advance SP. Folding screen DS. Boy the margain gets larger.
Yeah, I have to agree with you.
the both of you either have zero genesis games to a very small collection of 10ish games mainly sports with 2 sonics and altered beast
That's not really a fair shot to just diss the console.
i would say the exact same thing if i where in marvel's shoes since yea for sure the snes side would look a ton greener with that genesis collection.
not to be like the devil but to say that the snes is miles ahead of genesis while you both either have zero to few mainly mediocre titles Kinda hard to make it a solid argument in my opinion.
not saying that you have to prefer the genesis over snes everyone has their preferences.
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I've played my fair share of Genesis games over the years, and it’s my personal preference, the SNES is better to me and I feel is miles ahead. I remember way back then a friend of mine tried to introduce me to the Genesis, and, first of all, he eagerly though Sonic would be the selling point, which wasn't for me; and secondly, he had hardly any games that were appealing to me; Streets of Rage and I think Rocket Knight Adventures were the only two games that really made me "oh and ah". Years later I would have the chance to properly be "introduced" to the console, but, again, I wasn't wowed. Don't get me wrong, the console isn’t without its good games and hidden gems, but, again, personal preference, it doesn’t come close to the SNES.
And just in case my take wasn’t clear, the operative phrase in all of this being personal preference.
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the sonic games aren't that great far from being the consoles best games such an over rated series even when it was at it's peak.
mario on the other hands has always been quality always near the top of the better games on the system.
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I don't usually say this on here because I know it'll offend people. And it's only my preference. And I don't want to be that console fanboy guy. But quite honestly. Sega was never even close to Nintendo in anything they made. Even with their peak which is the Genesis in most people's eyes.
The Genesis isn't even close to the Super Nintendo imo. It can't even sit at the same table. Gameboy trumps Gamegear, Trumps Nomad. Then if we get into pinnacle gameboys like Advance SP. Folding screen DS. Boy the margain gets larger.
Yeah, I have to agree with you.
the both of you either have zero genesis games to a very small collection of 10ish games mainly sports with 2 sonics and altered beast
That's not really a fair shot to just diss the console.
i would say the exact same thing if i where in marvel's shoes since yea for sure the snes side would look a ton greener with that genesis collection.
not to be like the devil but to say that the snes is miles ahead of genesis while you both either have zero to few mainly mediocre titles Kinda hard to make it a solid argument in my opinion.
not saying that you have to prefer the genesis over snes everyone has their preferences.
The on site collections don't always reflect one's experience with said console. I just think I have less games for it because I prefer SNES. Not because I never played them. I actually like Genesis quite a lot. I just think SNES is leagues above Genesis in almost every way.
As for libraries I just think their comes a point in the lineups where Sega just can't keep up anymore. It starts off really competitive. Sonic vs Mario debate. The iconic Ristar, games like Kirby. And Moonwalker and Streets of Rage facing off against games like Final Fight. Hyperstone Heist vs Turtles in Time, who had the better batman game. Ect.. But then always comes a point in the argument where the SNES guy pulls out the Holy trinity. The Thanos Infinity gauntlet of gaming. Super Metroid, Link to the Past and Donkey Kong Country. And while the Genesis guy starts sweating, clammering for words because of the prophecy being spoke upon him, the SNES guy drops a good ol fashioned Final Fantasy III (VI) as an atom bomb to top off the sundae.
I'm sure some bias comes into play because I was an SNES baby. But I just don't think Genesis has any answer to that imo. And I stand by saying it's not very close. That's just too much gold to compete with. And not to mention Donkey Kong Country had 3 installments. And nobody touched on Mario Kart and F Zero yet. Sega has it's RPGs. Great ones. It's one of the best consoles of all time for RPGs. Phantasy Star II and Beyond Oasis were amazing. But Final Fantasy III (VI)? Tough to compete with that. Exclusive for exclusive the distance between them becomes far imo. Further than the sales show.
But with Gameboy vs Nomad and Gamegear. I'd say it's even worst. Genesis is very debatable. And it dominates a few genres like Sports titles, possibly beat em ups. But with gameboy. Mario Land alone just by and far was one of the greatest handheld franchises of all time. Then Pokemon? Oh lordy lol.
But I think that's the beauty of the 16 bit wars. It will never end. It's actually pretty refreshing we are bringing it up. It reminds me of the same things I used to say on the bus to school. It's like time stands still sometimes. :) This whole thread has been very nostalgic.
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I don't usually say this on here because I know it'll offend people. And it's only my preference. And I don't want to be that console fanboy guy. But quite honestly. Sega was never even close to Nintendo in anything they made. Even with their peak which is the Genesis in most people's eyes.
The Genesis isn't even close to the Super Nintendo imo. It can't even sit at the same table. Gameboy trumps Gamegear, Trumps Nomad. Then if we get into pinnacle gameboys like Advance SP. Folding screen DS. Boy the margain gets larger.
Yeah, I have to agree with you.
the both of you either have zero genesis games to a very small collection of 10ish games mainly sports with 2 sonics and altered beast
That's not really a fair shot to just diss the console.
i would say the exact same thing if i where in marvel's shoes since yea for sure the snes side would look a ton greener with that genesis collection.
not to be like the devil but to say that the snes is miles ahead of genesis while you both either have zero to few mainly mediocre titles Kinda hard to make it a solid argument in my opinion.
not saying that you have to prefer the genesis over snes everyone has their preferences.
The on site collections don't always reflect one's experience with said console. I just think I have less games for it because I prefer SNES. Not because I never played them. I actually like Genesis quite a lot. I just think SNES is leagues above Genesis in almost every way.
As for libraries I just think their comes a point in the lineups where Sega just can't keep up anymore. It starts off really competitive. Sonic vs Mario debate. The iconic Ristar, games like Kirby. And Moonwalker and Streets of Rage facing off against games like Final Fight. Hyperstone Heist vs Turtles in Time, who had the better batman game. Ect.. But then always comes a point in the argument where the SNES guy pulls out the Holy trinity. The Thanos Infinity gauntlet of gaming. Super Metroid, Link to the Past and Donkey Kong Country. And while the Genesis guy starts sweating, clammering for words because of the prophecy being spoke upon him, the SNES guy drops a good ol fashioned Final Fantasy III (VI) as an atom bomb to top off the sundae.
I'm sure some bias comes into play because I was an SNES baby. But I just don't think Genesis has any answer to that imo. And I stand by saying it's not very close. That's just too much gold to compete with. And not to mention Donkey Kong Country had 3 installments. And nobody touched on Mario Kart and F Zero yet. Sega has it's RPGs. Great ones. It's one of the best consoles of all time for RPGs. Phantasy Star II and Beyond Oasis were amazing. But Final Fantasy III (VI)? Tough to compete with that. Exclusive for exclusive the distance between them becomes far imo. Further than the sales show.
But with Gameboy vs Nomad and Gamegear. I'd say it's even worst. Genesis is very debatable. And it dominates a few genres like Sports titles, possibly beat em ups. But with gameboy. Mario Land alone just by and far was one of the greatest handheld franchises of all time. Then Pokemon? Oh lordy lol.
But I think that's the beauty of the 16 bit wars. It will never end. It's actually pretty refreshing we are bringing it up. It reminds me of the same things I used to say on the bus to school. It's like time stands still sometimes. :) This whole thread has been very nostalgic.
first of all a nomad is console games on a handheld no competition miles ahead of gameboy naturally it's like a snes on the go if where talking consoles. it has genesis games not gamegear. it was pricy and bad marketing nothing to do with quality for poor sales just like the turbo express for turbografx/pc engine games.
furthermore sonic vs mario is not a competition that's like a slaughterfest in wich mario comes out on top easily i'll give it that.
the shootemups on snes are way worse than on the genesis not to mention very few in comparison let alone titles that can even hold a candle to musha, thunder force IV battlemania or truxton to name a few. the snes has few shootemups and most of them suffer from slow downs since the snes can't handle it except for a select few. the snes is a poor mans shootemup console there is almost nothing.
Castlevania and contra are better on genesis.
Bloodlines looked less pixelated and had better gameplay than super castlevania IV bloodlines on genesis also has arguably the best music in the entire castlevania series. and contra hardcops was just 2d contra all the way instead of 50% pixelated top down gameplay wich was way less fun. did i forget to mention that both sega games have multiple paths and characters with different weapons?
those are two very iconic series of the 16bit era Kinda a heavy blow towards snes I'd say :o
Where are the action platformers run & gun games such as alien soldier gunstar heroes shinobi III rocket knight revenge of shinobi etc etc The snes is lacking in that department aswell yes there are some excellent ones such as actraiser hagane and such but there is way less action. again the processing power on genesis was higher than on snes. the genesis can handle more things at once.
have you ever played final fight on snes? only 2 enemies on the screen at once you serious it was a very poor arcade port the action is meh very subpar even the later ones arent that fantastic with flaws. streets of rage II is way better tons of enemies at all times. the snes lacked horsepower unlike the genesis
also way fewer arcade ports on snes than on genesis. genesis has tons of fun arcade ports and while snes also has it's fair share it's way less than genesis.
Games like splatterhouse series to violent for snes that's kinda sad in my opinion.
Snes is good with rpg's but turn based strategy rpg's even the japanese games do not come close to shining force 1 and 2. in that department the best turn based rpg of the 16 bit era genesis comes out on top.
also phantasy star IV isnt that much worse than final fantasy III if not better depending on what rpg's you like.
here are some other reasons why i prefer genesis over snes.
speaking of legend of zelda snes the 3d zelda's are just straight up better
super metroid it's good but castlevania symphony of the night did it way better
you want 2d kirby. ds did it better with squeek attack and super star
2d fighting games. 16 bit era was pretty poor for that even on snes. there are way better consoles tto play street fighter on and where not talking modern ones to get arcade perfect ports. tons of them 2d fighting games in general way better consoles for those.
The snes in certain departments is way behind genesis. mascot games and rpg's is where it's at for snes otherwise It's genesis. Since i mainly play action based games for retro stuff I'm sticking with genesis. i do enjoy my games for snes but it's worse in the departments that i mainly play retro games for.
mario and zelda have superior games in 3D in my opinion.
mario 64 and ocarina of time and up is where it's at. minus mario 3d land on wii u that was an abomination.
i can go on but i'll leave it at that.
a ton of the snes strong points i'd rather play those on other consoles, i don't really have that issue with the genesis. even if other consoles did not have the better options the win still goes to genesis since action packed games is what I mainly seek for 2d retro stuff.
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I don't usually say this on here because I know it'll offend people. And it's only my preference. And I don't want to be that console fanboy guy. But quite honestly. Sega was never even close to Nintendo in anything they made. Even with their peak which is the Genesis in most people's eyes.
The Genesis isn't even close to the Super Nintendo imo. It can't even sit at the same table. Gameboy trumps Gamegear, Trumps Nomad. Then if we get into pinnacle gameboys like Advance SP. Folding screen DS. Boy the margain gets larger.
Yeah, I have to agree with you.
the both of you either have zero genesis games to a very small collection of 10ish games mainly sports with 2 sonics and altered beast
That's not really a fair shot to just diss the console.
i would say the exact same thing if i where in marvel's shoes since yea for sure the snes side would look a ton greener with that genesis collection.
not to be like the devil but to say that the snes is miles ahead of genesis while you both either have zero to few mainly mediocre titles Kinda hard to make it a solid argument in my opinion.
not saying that you have to prefer the genesis over snes everyone has their preferences.
The on site collections don't always reflect one's experience with said console. I just think I have less games for it because I prefer SNES. Not because I never played them. I actually like Genesis quite a lot. I just think SNES is leagues above Genesis in almost every way.
As for libraries I just think their comes a point in the lineups where Sega just can't keep up anymore. It starts off really competitive. Sonic vs Mario debate. The iconic Ristar, games like Kirby. And Moonwalker and Streets of Rage facing off against games like Final Fight. Hyperstone Heist vs Turtles in Time, who had the better batman game. Ect.. But then always comes a point in the argument where the SNES guy pulls out the Holy trinity. The Thanos Infinity gauntlet of gaming. Super Metroid, Link to the Past and Donkey Kong Country. And while the Genesis guy starts sweating, clammering for words because of the prophecy being spoke upon him, the SNES guy drops a good ol fashioned Final Fantasy III (VI) as an atom bomb to top off the sundae.
I'm sure some bias comes into play because I was an SNES baby. But I just don't think Genesis has any answer to that imo. And I stand by saying it's not very close. That's just too much gold to compete with. And not to mention Donkey Kong Country had 3 installments. And nobody touched on Mario Kart and F Zero yet. Sega has it's RPGs. Great ones. It's one of the best consoles of all time for RPGs. Phantasy Star II and Beyond Oasis were amazing. But Final Fantasy III (VI)? Tough to compete with that. Exclusive for exclusive the distance between them becomes far imo. Further than the sales show.
But with Gameboy vs Nomad and Gamegear. I'd say it's even worst. Genesis is very debatable. And it dominates a few genres like Sports titles, possibly beat em ups. But with gameboy. Mario Land alone just by and far was one of the greatest handheld franchises of all time. Then Pokemon? Oh lordy lol.
But I think that's the beauty of the 16 bit wars. It will never end. It's actually pretty refreshing we are bringing it up. It reminds me of the same things I used to say on the bus to school. It's like time stands still sometimes. :) This whole thread has been very nostalgic.
first of all a nomad is console games on a handheld no competition miles ahead of gameboy naturally it's like a snes on the go if where talking consoles. it has genesis games not gamegear. it was pricy and bad marketing nothing to do with quality for poor sales just like the turbo express for turbografx/pc engine games.
furthermore sonic vs mario is not a competition that's like a slaughterfest in wich mario comes out on top easily i'll give it that.
the shootemups on snes are way worse than on the genesis not to mention very few in comparison let alone titles that can even hold a candle to musha, thunder force IV battlemania or truxton to name a few. the snes has few shootemups and most of them suffer from slow downs since the snes can't handle it except for a select few. the snes is a poor mans shootemup console there is almost nothing.
Castlevania and contra are better on genesis.
Bloodlines looked less pixelated and had better gameplay than super castlevania IV arguably the best music in the entire castlevania series. and contra hardcops was just 2d contra all the way instead of 50% pixelated top down gameplay wich was way less fun. did i forget to mention that both sega games have multiple paths and characters with different weapons?
those are two very iconic series of the 16bit era Kinda a heavy blow towards snes I'd say :o
Where are the action platformers run & gun games such as alien soldier gunstar heroes shinobi III rocket knight revenge of shinobi etc etc The snes is lacking in that department aswell yes there are some excellent ones such as actraiser hagane and such but there is way less action. again the processing power on genesis was higher than on snes. the genesis can handle more things at once.
have you ever played final fight on snes? only 2 enemies on the screen at once you serious it was a very poor arcade port the action is meh very subpar even the later ones arent that fantastic with flaws. streets of rage II is way better tons of enemies at all times. the snes lacked horsepower unlike the genesis
also way fewer arcade ports on snes than on genesis. genesis has tons of fun arcade ports and while snes also has it's fair share it's way less than genesis.
Games like splatterhouse series to violent for snes that's kinda sad in my opinion.
Snes is good with rpg's but turn based strategy rpg's even the japanese games do not come close to shining force 1 and 2. in that department the best turn based rpg of the 16 bit era genesis comes out on top.
also phantasy star IV isnt that much worse than final fantasy III if not better depending on what rpg's you like.
here are some other reasons why i prefer genesis over snes.
speaking of legend of zelda snes the 3d zelda's are just straight up better
super metroid it's good but castlevania symphony of the night did it way better
you want 2d kirby. ds did it better with squeek attack and super star
2d fighting games. 16 bit era was pretty poor for that even on snes. there are way better consoles tto play street fighter on and where not talking modern ones to get arcade perfect ports. tons of them 2d fighting games in general way better consoles for those.
The snes in certain departments is way behind genesis. mascot games and rpg's is where it's at for snes otherwise It's genesis. Since i mainly play action based games for retro stuff I'm sticking with genesis. i do enjoy my games for snes but it's worse in the departments that i mainly play retro games for.
mario and zelda have superior games in 3D in my opinion.
mario 64 and ocarina of time and up is where it's at. minus mario 3d land on wii u that was an abomination.
i can go on but i'll leave it at that.
a ton of the snes strong points i'd rather play those on other consoles, i don't really have that issue with the genesis. even if other consoles did not have the better options the win still goes to genesis since action packed games is what I mainly seek for 2d retro stuff.
I agree with you on a lot of these. Like how Castlevania is better on Genesis. Especially Contra. But their are a few of examples of the opposite too. Like Turtles in Time is better than Hyperstone Heist and SNES certainly got the better Batman game. I think Maximum Carnage and Zombies ate My Nieghbors both perform much better on SNES. And street fighter turbo is better than the Genesis street fighter. Batman Adventures of Batman and Robin is amazing. So their is a few that go the other way.
Than some of your critiques about better Zelda games coming later seems unfair. Mostly because the console they are on is much superior and they are different genre. I think Super Mario World is better than Super Mario 64 as a whole. I think it paved the way more culturally and is more accessible and iconic.
I think one big thing we haven't touched on is the controller too. SNES came out of the box perfection. 6 buttons, right where they belong. Shoulder buttons that controllers are still copying today. Genesis had 3 buttons out of the box and some games you had to press select to change what they did because it just didn't have enough. Than you had to go out and buy a 6 button controller later. It was a mess.
Than of course, Super Metroid. The standard of all metroidvania games. The whole trinity of gaming. Although you don't prefer them. I still think they beat most if not all of Sega's outings. LTTP, Super Metroid, DKC and FF3 are pretty tough tandem.
Gameboy in fairness while a traditional handheld, still probably has a more impressive library than Genesis. It's unfair to compare because one is a console game. But Gameboy had Warioland and Pokemon. Genesis can't touch Pokemon's realm. I don't even think SNES can without a gameboy player attatchment. Pokemon was something special that we will probably never witness again in our lives.
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I don't usually say this on here because I know it'll offend people. And it's only my preference. And I don't want to be that console fanboy guy. But quite honestly. Sega was never even close to Nintendo in anything they made. Even with their peak which is the Genesis in most people's eyes.
The Genesis isn't even close to the Super Nintendo imo. It can't even sit at the same table. Gameboy trumps Gamegear, Trumps Nomad. Then if we get into pinnacle gameboys like Advance SP. Folding screen DS. Boy the margain gets larger.
Yeah, I have to agree with you.
the both of you either have zero genesis games to a very small collection of 10ish games mainly sports with 2 sonics and altered beast
That's not really a fair shot to just diss the console.
i would say the exact same thing if i where in marvel's shoes since yea for sure the snes side would look a ton greener with that genesis collection.
not to be like the devil but to say that the snes is miles ahead of genesis while you both either have zero to few mainly mediocre titles Kinda hard to make it a solid argument in my opinion.
not saying that you have to prefer the genesis over snes everyone has their preferences.
The on site collections don't always reflect one's experience with said console. I just think I have less games for it because I prefer SNES. Not because I never played them. I actually like Genesis quite a lot. I just think SNES is leagues above Genesis in almost every way.
As for libraries I just think their comes a point in the lineups where Sega just can't keep up anymore. It starts off really competitive. Sonic vs Mario debate. The iconic Ristar, games like Kirby. And Moonwalker and Streets of Rage facing off against games like Final Fight. Hyperstone Heist vs Turtles in Time, who had the better batman game. Ect.. But then always comes a point in the argument where the SNES guy pulls out the Holy trinity. The Thanos Infinity gauntlet of gaming. Super Metroid, Link to the Past and Donkey Kong Country. And while the Genesis guy starts sweating, clammering for words because of the prophecy being spoke upon him, the SNES guy drops a good ol fashioned Final Fantasy III (VI) as an atom bomb to top off the sundae.
I'm sure some bias comes into play because I was an SNES baby. But I just don't think Genesis has any answer to that imo. And I stand by saying it's not very close. That's just too much gold to compete with. And not to mention Donkey Kong Country had 3 installments. And nobody touched on Mario Kart and F Zero yet. Sega has it's RPGs. Great ones. It's one of the best consoles of all time for RPGs. Phantasy Star II and Beyond Oasis were amazing. But Final Fantasy III (VI)? Tough to compete with that. Exclusive for exclusive the distance between them becomes far imo. Further than the sales show.
But with Gameboy vs Nomad and Gamegear. I'd say it's even worst. Genesis is very debatable. And it dominates a few genres like Sports titles, possibly beat em ups. But with gameboy. Mario Land alone just by and far was one of the greatest handheld franchises of all time. Then Pokemon? Oh lordy lol.
But I think that's the beauty of the 16 bit wars. It will never end. It's actually pretty refreshing we are bringing it up. It reminds me of the same things I used to say on the bus to school. It's like time stands still sometimes. :) This whole thread has been very nostalgic.
first of all a nomad is console games on a handheld no competition miles ahead of gameboy naturally it's like a snes on the go if where talking consoles. it has genesis games not gamegear. it was pricy and bad marketing nothing to do with quality for poor sales just like the turbo express for turbografx/pc engine games.
furthermore sonic vs mario is not a competition that's like a slaughterfest in wich mario comes out on top easily i'll give it that.
the shootemups on snes are way worse than on the genesis not to mention very few in comparison let alone titles that can even hold a candle to musha, thunder force IV battlemania or truxton to name a few. the snes has few shootemups and most of them suffer from slow downs since the snes can't handle it except for a select few. the snes is a poor mans shootemup console there is almost nothing.
Castlevania and contra are better on genesis.
Bloodlines looked less pixelated and had better gameplay than super castlevania IV arguably the best music in the entire castlevania series. and contra hardcops was just 2d contra all the way instead of 50% pixelated top down gameplay wich was way less fun. did i forget to mention that both sega games have multiple paths and characters with different weapons?
those are two very iconic series of the 16bit era Kinda a heavy blow towards snes I'd say :o
Where are the action platformers run & gun games such as alien soldier gunstar heroes shinobi III rocket knight revenge of shinobi etc etc The snes is lacking in that department aswell yes there are some excellent ones such as actraiser hagane and such but there is way less action. again the processing power on genesis was higher than on snes. the genesis can handle more things at once.
have you ever played final fight on snes? only 2 enemies on the screen at once you serious it was a very poor arcade port the action is meh very subpar even the later ones arent that fantastic with flaws. streets of rage II is way better tons of enemies at all times. the snes lacked horsepower unlike the genesis
also way fewer arcade ports on snes than on genesis. genesis has tons of fun arcade ports and while snes also has it's fair share it's way less than genesis.
Games like splatterhouse series to violent for snes that's kinda sad in my opinion.
Snes is good with rpg's but turn based strategy rpg's even the japanese games do not come close to shining force 1 and 2. in that department the best turn based rpg of the 16 bit era genesis comes out on top.
also phantasy star IV isnt that much worse than final fantasy III if not better depending on what rpg's you like.
here are some other reasons why i prefer genesis over snes.
speaking of legend of zelda snes the 3d zelda's are just straight up better
super metroid it's good but castlevania symphony of the night did it way better
you want 2d kirby. ds did it better with squeek attack and super star
2d fighting games. 16 bit era was pretty poor for that even on snes. there are way better consoles tto play street fighter on and where not talking modern ones to get arcade perfect ports. tons of them 2d fighting games in general way better consoles for those.
The snes in certain departments is way behind genesis. mascot games and rpg's is where it's at for snes otherwise It's genesis. Since i mainly play action based games for retro stuff I'm sticking with genesis. i do enjoy my games for snes but it's worse in the departments that i mainly play retro games for.
mario and zelda have superior games in 3D in my opinion.
mario 64 and ocarina of time and up is where it's at. minus mario 3d land on wii u that was an abomination.
i can go on but i'll leave it at that.
a ton of the snes strong points i'd rather play those on other consoles, i don't really have that issue with the genesis. even if other consoles did not have the better options the win still goes to genesis since action packed games is what I mainly seek for 2d retro stuff.
I agree with you on a lot of these. Like how Castlevania is better on Genesis. Especially Contra. But their are a few of examples of the opposite too. Like Turtles in Time is better than Hyperstone Heist and SNES certainly got the better Batman game. I think Maximum Carnage and Zombies ate My Nieghbors both perform much better on SNES. And street fighter turbo is better than the Genesis street fighter. Batman Adventures of Batman and Robin is amazing. So their is a few that go the other way.
Than some of your critiques about better Zelda games coming later seems unfair. Mostly because the console they are on is much superior and they are different genre. I think Super Mario World is better than Super Mario 64 as a whole. I think it paved the way more culturally and is more accessible and iconic.
I think one big thing we haven't touched on is the controller too. SNES came out of the box perfection. 6 buttons, right where they belong. Shoulder buttons that controllers are still copying today. Genesis had 3 buttons out of the box and some games you had to press select to change what they did because it just didn't have enough. Than you had to go out and buy a 6 button controller later. It was a mess.
Than of course, Super Metroid. The standard of all metroidvania games. The whole trinity of gaming. Although you don't prefer them. I still think they beat most if not all of Sega's outings. LTTP, Super Metroid, DKC and FF3 are pretty tough tandem.
Gameboy in fairness while a traditional handheld, still probably has a more impressive library than Genesis. It's unfair to compare because one is a console game. But Gameboy had Warioland and Pokemon. Genesis can't touch Pokemon's realm. I don't even think SNES can without a gameboy player attatchment. Pokemon was something special that we will probably never witness again in our lives.
batman & robin was totally different on genesis as a multiplayer game being close to a run and gun. In my opinion better than the more easy more cinematic snes game and the dark music on genesis for that title is golden. also multiplayer vs single player genesis does
also your still forgetting the lacluster library of shoot em ups for the snes not to mention the slow downs for that genre on snes. genesis dominates for shoot em ups there is no contest at all
Not to mention action plartformers and run & gun for genesis again very lackluster on snes in comparison.
anyways about gameboy classic.
so your saying that castlevania and contra are better on genesis yet your saying that gameboy has the better library.
pokemon red and blue arent that great, the later instalments mainly on gba and ds where great and even than i wouldnt say it is better more preference. also pokemon games arent golden standard for games, heck most hardcore rpg or players or people in genral look down upon pokemon games and don't want to invest time into them. they are easy they are for kids it's kinda overhyped.
the gameboy library is sub par compared to the snes or genesis library. I rarely play black & white gameboy games since they arent that great in comparison.
Gameboy grapics and gameplay where minimal it comes near the atari 2600 realm of simple I absolutely can't see your logic. gameboy library was mediocre. GBA was miles better but is worse than snes let alone the gameboy classic
The gameboy classic might be one of the least interesting nintendo consoles to play games on by far. again gba is inferior snes console gameboy classic is NES but a hell lot worse.
gameboy classic library compared to genesis library there is no comparison genesis wins no contest.
That's like comparing an atari 2600 to an snes you've got to be kidding me.
your logic at least for gameboy makes no sense at all your blinded by nostalgia for that system.
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also as far as 2d mario and zelda vs 3d mario zelda
You can't really improve 2d mario or zelda games on newer consoles they are already close to perfect on snes. even on a brand new console your not going to make them any better aside from hd grapics.
The thing is though 3d mario has sounds the world are more immersive life like. same goes for goes for zelda. The characters and side characters are a hell lot more lovable in those series in the 3d games. the goofy stuff with mario and luigi them stupid yet lovable voices. the stupid beedle shop keeper saying thank you the ganondorf fights. the 2d games for those series they can't give that.
twilight princess, windwaker breath of the wild. I'd take those over link to the past any day.
mario 64/ sunshine galaxy 1 & 2 again I'd take that over super mario world any day of the week no contest for me.
has nothing to do with being on a superior console you can't really improve the 2d games that much they are already as good as they can be on snes. there is not much that one can do aside from making the games bigger but that's not going to solve that problem.
kirby is a nice example of 2d being better than 3d but some series just fit a hell lot better in 3D mario and zelda especially.
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Well, the Sega Master System is my favorite video game console ever, and since the Game Gear is kind of a portable Master System, it easily takes the cake in my opinion!
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VGC is a land of SEGA dissing. Many of these haters in my mind who clearly haven't played, or at least haven't played anything SEGA in a while. There's certainly some fanboy-ism that goes on here, and even though I will admit I am a pretty die hard Nintendo fan, I refuse to be a fanboy of anything. I still love SEGA and I think most of their stuff is great. SEGA in my mind is in fact, very close in quality to Nintendo. SNES vs Genesis is an internal debate I've not been able to yet resolve, although I learn towards SNES. To state that Genesis, or SEGA as a whole, is nothing compared to Nintendo is just smack-talking nonsense. Not having SEGA back in the day, or not investing in it nowadays, is no excuse to write it off like it's Atari or Tiger, or something of that caliber. Absolutely not.
SEGA always put out solid hardware, and great games. They never understood the western market very well, and made lots of terrible decisions for their business, but as developers they were and will always be one of the greats. If you prefer to stick your head in the sand and pretend like you're missing out on nothing by never touching anything SEGA, then by all means carry on doing just that. Just don't expect to be taken seriously when your SEGA cred is basically zero and you're talking huge levels of smack.
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I couldn't have said it any better.
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I like Tiger handhelds; I used to have loads of them growing up until one day they were accidentally trashed during a spring cleanup.
(https://i.imgur.com/OgNUIRK.jpg)
I don't believe anyone here was dissing or talking smack about Sega. Quite the opposite, the discussion that took place had no ounce of reproach to Sega and its console. Personally, I think if I were a hater, I wouldn't even be considering getting a Sega Genesis Mini. Granted, I'm trying to get it cheap, but I still want one.
I certainly mean no disrespect to you, but I kind of feel that comment came out of left field.
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It's a shame that SEGA does not have a modern console or modern day handheld. I got nothing against SEGA or Nintendo, but yet, why the heck did Nintendo take so long to make a handheld with a colored back-lit screen?
and why did the original Gameboy have a green screen?
February 2003, marked the vary first mainstream back lit color screen handheld for Nintendo
October 6, 1990 is when the SEGA Game Gear came out about 12-13 years before the Nintendo GameBoy Advance SP :-\
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I like Tiger handhelds; I used to have loads of them growing up until one day they were accidentally trashed during a spring cleanup.
(https://i.imgur.com/OgNUIRK.jpg)
I don't believe anyone here was dissing or talking smack about Sega. Quite the opposite, the discussion that took place had no ounce of reproach to Sega and its console. Personally, I think if I were a hater, I wouldn't even be considering getting a Sega Genesis Mini. Granted, I'm trying to get it cheap, but I still want one.
I certainly mean no disrespect to you, but I kind of feel that comment came out of left field.
are you sure?
marvelvscapcom2 said that even a gameboy classic was miles ahead of genesis.
there is no logic in that anymore that's just fanboism at it's finest
a gameboy classic comes pretty close to atari 2600 lvl's of gameplay and visuals it's a joke to compare that to a genesis it's one of the least interesting nintendo systems to play games for.
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are you sure?
marvelvscapcom2 said that even a gameboy classic was miles ahead of genesis.
there is no logic in that anymore that's just fanboism at it's finest
a gameboy classic comes pretty close to atari 2600 lvl's of gameplay and visuals it's a joke to compare that to a genesis it's one of the least interesting nintendo systems to play games for.
marvelvscapcom2 can fight his own battles, but I don't think he ever said that. Did he say the SNES is miles ahead of the Genesis? Yes, yes he did. And so did I, for the sake of transparency (although it's right there for everyone to see). But did he say the Game Boy is miles ahead of the Genesis? No.
But with Gameboy vs Nomad and Gamegear. I'd say it's even worst. Genesis is very debatable. And it dominates a few genres like Sports titles, possibly beat em ups. But with gameboy. Mario Land alone just by and far was one of the greatest handheld franchises of all time. Then Pokemon? Oh lordy lol.
Gameboy in fairness while a traditional handheld, still probably has a more impressive library than Genesis. It's unfair to compare because one is a console game. But Gameboy had Warioland and Pokemon. Genesis can't touch Pokemon's realm. I don't even think SNES can without a gameboy player attatchment. Pokemon was something special that we will probably never witness again in our lives.
None of these say the Game Boy is miles ahead of the Genesis. One is talking about the competition between the Game Boy and the Nomad and Game Gear. And sure, he says the handheld has an impressive library of games compared to the Genesis, but that's not saying the Game Boy is ahead of the Genesis. Not even in the slightest.
This isn't my battle, but I think we need to be fair.
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I like Tiger handhelds; I used to have loads of them growing up until one day they were accidentally trashed during a spring cleanup.
I'm sure you do. But there's no denying Tiger was about as cheaply made, and as low effort as you could possibly get back in the day without buying something straight up bootleg.
I don't believe anyone here was dissing or talking smack about Sega. Quite the opposite, the discussion that took place had no ounce of reproach to Sega and its console. Personally, I think if I were a hater, I wouldn't even be considering getting a Sega Genesis Mini. Granted, I'm trying to get it cheap, but I still want one.
I will refer you back to exhibit A
And I don't want to be that console fanboy guy. But quite honestly. Sega was never even close to Nintendo in anything they made. Even with their peak which is the Genesis in most people's eyes. The Genesis isn't even close to the Super Nintendo imo. It can't even sit at the same table.
That's an ounce, maybe even a metric ton. I've seen loads of comments akin to this, if not within this thread, then in others. There are SEGA haters among us, who dismiss and judge the entirety of the company as sub-par or not worthy of their time. To be fair, there's also a lot of unwarranted disdain towards the Xbox brand as well, because in certain circles it's not seen as hardcore enough. I'm just saying there is some fanboy-ism present when discussions of certain brands like SEGA or Xbox come up from time to time.
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It's a shame that SEGA does not have a modern console or modern day handheld. I got nothing against SEGA or Nintendo, but yet, why the heck did Nintendo take so long to make a handheld with a colored back-lit screen?
and why did the original Gameboy have a green screen?
February 2003, marked the vary first mainstream back lit color screen handheld for Nintendo
October 6, 1990 is when the SEGA Game Gear came out about 12-13 years before the Nintendo GameBoy Advance SP :-\
Exactly the question I always pose. Nintendo went about designing the cheapest possible thing they could when releasing the Game Boy. A year later, SEGA showed the world how a handheld should be made. However, the gimmick of being smaller, and cheaper paid off with some kind of tragic irony. Remember when everyone wanted the tiniest flip-phone they could possible make? Those tiny phones were so neat and fashionable. Now we all want the biggest smartphone that money can buy. Trends change. Game Gear was ahead of it's time in many ways. Now "handhelds" are quite large and charging your batteries nightly, if not more often is just expected.
Actually the Game Boy Advance SP that first released in 2003 was not backlit, it was front lit, and it looks pretty bad in all honesty. The backlit one came out later, but the Nintendo DS was the first Nintendo handheld to finally get it right. Although, there are patents that have now surfaced showing SEGA was in early development for a Game Gear successor handheld that would not only be backlit again, but feature "touch screen" controls, long before the DS was even remotely a thing. Sadly it never came to be because SEGA's financial situation at the time was dire.
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Gameboy in fairness while a traditional handheld, still probably has a more impressive library than Genesis. It's unfair to compare because one is a console game. But Gameboy had Warioland and Pokemon. Genesis can't touch Pokemon's realm. I don't even think SNES can without a gameboy player attatchment. Pokemon was something special that we will probably never witness again in our lives.
None of these say the Game Boy is miles ahead of the Genesis. One is talking about the competition between the Game Boy and the Nomad and Game Gear. And sure, he says the handheld has an impressive library of games compared to the Genesis, but that's not saying the Game Boy is ahead of the Genesis. Not even in the slightest.
This isn't my battle, but I think we need to be fair.
i don't know man kinda seems that gameboy classic is miles ahead i mean cmon can't touch gameboy meaning god mode levels of better.
What's so impressive about the gameboy classics library let alone better than genesis is this guy on crack even the mighty GBA is worse than a snes how does gameboy classic stand any chance at all that's like a fraction of the fun that the gba has.
there are not many superb gameboy classic games and even with those gems it's not something that fantastic if your going for 2d games it's not to far of atari 2600 lvl's.
i also can't see how the snes is miles ahead of genesis while the grapics are very comparable both systems have games that look better or worse than each other. both consoles have games with better music depending on the game per console. if your looking for 16 bit consoles genesis or snes are top pics but snes being miles ahead that's pretty flawed. this is coming from a huge nintendo fanboy btw i grew up with nintendo mario being my favourite series at the time.
having a preference sure but saying that something is miles ahead aka (huge difference) while the grapics and sound music are comparable depending on the titles per system and both having a huge library with gems that's just being ignorant this is just a classic example of nostalgia goggles nothing more nothing less.
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And I don't want to be that console fanboy guy. But quite honestly. Sega was never even close to Nintendo in anything they made. Even with their peak which is the Genesis in most people's eyes. The Genesis isn't even close to the Super Nintendo imo. It can't even sit at the same table.
That's an ounce, maybe even a metric ton. I've seen loads of comments akin to this, if not within this thread, then in others. There are SEGA haters among us, who dismiss and judge the entirety of the company as sub-par or not worthy of their time. To be fair, there's also a lot of unwarranted disdain towards the Xbox brand as well, because in certain circles it's not seen as hardcore enough. I'm just saying there is some fanboy-ism present when discussions of certain brands like SEGA or Xbox come up from time to time.
Yeah, I figured either you or sworddude would quote that. In all honesty, though, you're not being fair. Yes, he did say that, but so did I in a way. marvelvscapcom2 acknowledged and agreed on many of the Genesis strong suits, which is commendable given you're essentially vilifying him. Not only that, but his posts don't come off vitriolic or filled with opprobrium, which is expected of a hater. All I see marvelvscapcom2 guilty of is being a tad verbose, but a hater he certainly isn't.
But I digress, like I said before, this isn't my battle. These kind of discussions always end up turning into arguments that never yield anything fruitful. In a way they end up turning into a dick measuring contest.
i don't know man kinda seems that gameboy classic is miles ahead i mean cmon can't touch gameboy meaning god mode levels of better.
You're reaching, but think whatever you want, man, this discussion has turned into an argument that, for my sanity's sake, I sincerely want nothing to do with.
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I'm not going to keep arguing on this topic there is a ton of stuff that i disagree with that marvel vs capcom posts in general i usually try really hard ignore them but i just had to leave a reaction this time.
If where looking at basic language what he just said can't touch something
if your saying something can't touch aka can't hold a candle to it It can't even sit at the same table means that the difference is huge something is much more superior than that
i'm just stating facts here this ain't reaching everyone can have their opinion but considering what those expressions mean i don't see how my logic is untrue that something can't even come close is what the guy literally said.
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It's a shame that SEGA does not have a modern console or modern day handheld. I got nothing against SEGA or Nintendo, but yet, why the heck did Nintendo take so long to make a handheld with a colored back-lit screen?
and why did the original Gameboy have a green screen?
February 2003, marked the vary first mainstream back lit color screen handheld for Nintendo
October 6, 1990 is when the SEGA Game Gear came out about 12-13 years before the Nintendo GameBoy Advance SP :-\
Exactly the question I always pose. Nintendo went about designing the cheapest possible thing they could when releasing the Game Boy. A year later, SEGA showed the world how a handheld should be made. However, the gimmick of being smaller, and cheaper paid off with some kind of tragic irony. Remember when everyone wanted the tiniest flip-phone they could possible make? Those tiny phones were so neat and fashionable. Now we all want the biggest smartphone that money can buy. Trends change. Game Gear was ahead of it's time in many ways. Now "handhelds" are quite large and charging your batteries nightly, if not more often is just expected.
Actually the Game Boy Advance SP that first released in 2003 was not backlit, it was front lit, and it looks pretty bad in all honesty. The backlit one came out later, but the Nintendo DS was the first Nintendo handheld to finally get it right. Although, there are patents that have now surfaced showing SEGA was in early development for a Game Gear successor handheld that would not only be backlit again, but feature "touch screen" controls, long before the DS was even remotely a thing. Sadly it never came to be because SEGA's financial situation at the time was dire.
Yeah terrible battery life had no influence on the game gear being less successful.
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And I don't want to be that console fanboy guy. But quite honestly. Sega was never even close to Nintendo in anything they made. Even with their peak which is the Genesis in most people's eyes. The Genesis isn't even close to the Super Nintendo imo. It can't even sit at the same table.
That's an ounce, maybe even a metric ton. I've seen loads of comments akin to this, if not within this thread, then in others. There are SEGA haters among us, who dismiss and judge the entirety of the company as sub-par or not worthy of their time. To be fair, there's also a lot of unwarranted disdain towards the Xbox brand as well, because in certain circles it's not seen as hardcore enough. I'm just saying there is some fanboy-ism present when discussions of certain brands like SEGA or Xbox come up from time to time.
Yeah, I figured either you or sworddude would quote that. In all honesty, though, you're not being fair. Yes, he did say that, but so did I in a way. marvelvscapcom2 acknowledged and agreed on many of the Genesis strong suits, which is commendable given you're essentially vilifying him. Not only that, but his posts don't come off vitriolic or filled with opprobrium, which is expected of a hater. All I see marvelvscapcom2 guilty of is being a tad verbose, but a hater he certainly isn't.
But I digress, like I said before, this isn't my battle. These kind of discussions always end up turning into arguments that never yield anything fruitful. In a way they end up turning into a dick measuring contest
I don’t really have a dog in the fight either. I like Nintendo, SEGA, PlayStation, Xbox, Atari and others. However when I see someone dissing on any them out of loyalty or enthusiasm for another company it’s hard not to comment in their defense.
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It's a shame that SEGA does not have a modern console or modern day handheld. I got nothing against SEGA or Nintendo, but yet, why the heck did Nintendo take so long to make a handheld with a colored back-lit screen?
and why did the original Gameboy have a green screen?
February 2003, marked the vary first mainstream back lit color screen handheld for Nintendo
October 6, 1990 is when the SEGA Game Gear came out about 12-13 years before the Nintendo GameBoy Advance SP :-\
Exactly the question I always pose. Nintendo went about designing the cheapest possible thing they could when releasing the Game Boy. A year later, SEGA showed the world how a handheld should be made. However, the gimmick of being smaller, and cheaper paid off with some kind of tragic irony. Remember when everyone wanted the tiniest flip-phone they could possible make? Those tiny phones were so neat and fashionable. Now we all want the biggest smartphone that money can buy. Trends change. Game Gear was ahead of it's time in many ways. Now "handhelds" are quite large and charging your batteries nightly, if not more often is just expected.
Actually the Game Boy Advance SP that first released in 2003 was not backlit, it was front lit, and it looks pretty bad in all honesty. The backlit one came out later, but the Nintendo DS was the first Nintendo handheld to finally get it right. Although, there are patents that have now surfaced showing SEGA was in early development for a Game Gear successor handheld that would not only be backlit again, but feature "touch screen" controls, long before the DS was even remotely a thing. Sadly it never came to be because SEGA's financial situation at the time was dire.
Yeah terrible battery life had no influence on the game gear being less successful.
There existed rechargeable battery and battery packs at the time. We had them. The real question is which will happen first? Will your Game Gear batteries die, or will you go cross eyed staring at a green a grey screen in the dark? Can your eyes withstand the Game Boys battery life? Honest question.
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I would take not playing in the dark over spending money on an accessory that could be spent on games. Not that either are great I was just saying that was a big reason the gb sold better. Both are pretty low on the list of handheld systems.