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General and Gaming => General => Topic started by: gf78 on June 08, 2015, 03:50:06 pm
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Just curious if anyone else does this. I enjoy emulation, for the mere fact that I can play games on a single unit without dragging my older consoles that I have packed up out of the closet.
I mentioned it in another thread, but I've been playing ROMS on my Galaxy S6 with a Moga Hero Power controller. I physically own one or more versions of the games that I have downloaded ROMS for as I'm a collector who likes to have tangible things and I personally don't believe in piracy of copyright works.
It's a bit of a grey area. Some people emulate anything they can get their hands on. Some won't touch it. For me, if I own physical copies of something like Mega Man for the NES, playing a backup of the same software isn't piracy.
...and it's pretty bad-ass to lay in bed before I go to sleep with my S6 attached to the Moga and play classic titles. All without Nintendo or anyone else double-dipping on a sale.
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I do use the Fusion for the Sega Genesis and for the NES I do use the NesterCD in the Dreamcast, nothing beats to play the game in the original console but I can always made and exception for those cartridges that I don't own, in the past did enjoyed a lot playing those Neo Geo titles but just to practice at home, always love to see you opponent defeated when is next to you in the arcade ;D
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Just curious if anyone else does this. I enjoy emulation, for the mere fact that I can play games on a single unit without dragging my older consoles that I have packed up out of the closet.
I mentioned it in another thread, but I've been playing ROMS on my Galaxy S6 with a Moga Hero Power controller. I physically own one or more versions of the games that I have downloaded ROMS for as I'm a collector who likes to have tangible things and I personally don't believe in piracy of copyright works.
It's a bit of a grey area. Some people emulate anything they can get their hands on. Some won't touch it. For me, if I own physical copies of something like Mega Man for the NES, playing a backup of the same software isn't piracy.
...and it's pretty bad-ass to lay in bed before I go to sleep with my S6 attached to the Moga and play classic titles. All without Nintendo or anyone else double-dipping on a sale.
Yes and No.
I use emulation in the past, usually as a way to determine whether or not a game is enjoyable to purchase. Also had a complete set of SMS game catalog on my Dreamcast at one point. More recently, I've used emulation to run fan-translated ROMS that won't damage my actual hardware on PC. I agree with you on owning one or more versions of the game and not believing in piracy of copyright works.
As for reproductions i'm all for them. Especially the incredibly pricey games; Ginga Fukei Densetsu Sapphire, Magical Chase and Renny Blaster to name a few. Just as long as they won't damge my actual hardware (I understand it wont be 100% safe) in a major way.
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It's a bit of a grey area. Some people emulate anything they can get their hands on. Some won't touch it. For me, if I own physical copies of something like Mega Man for the NES, playing a backup of the same software isn't piracy.
For me, I used to emulate a few GBA games on VisualBoy, but now I don’t do it anymore. The only games that I don’t feel bad about emulating are Japanese games that weren’t released in NA (like Mother 3). I personally don’t see the point of spending money on a game that wasn’t released in America and I can’t understand. Especially with an RPG that requires you to understand the text to be able to move forward in the game. I guess that might be just me though haha
I think that the people really hurt by emulation are used game stores, or if a Sony or Nintendo decides to re-release a game for download on PSN or the virtual console (because why by the used game at the store when you can just emulate it).
But how do you know that a game store or Nintendo will ever have or release that certain game you really want to play? What if the game is really expensive and you don't have the money? It’s pretty complex and certainly a point of controversy. :-\
EDIT: Let me add that if Mother 3 WAS released in NA, I would buy the crap out of that, even though I've already played it :D
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I have a modded Wii with emulators on it in my bedroom. Sometimes I just want to play for a few minutes before bed.
I have Retron5 in the living room since it's HDMI.
If I'm in my game room it's the real deal for every system. We keep it real back there.
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I use an Ouya as an emulator machine and it does about 70% of my systems just fine. N64 emulation is still shaky but that's no big loss. Thinking heavily of getting an Nvidia Shield to replace the Ouya soon since the ouya seems to be a dying machine. Oh well it had a good run and I got my $70 out of it.
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I've started emulating almost everything I play from the 4th gen and older. Why? Because it is way more convenient to play it on my laptop with a controller than to dig the games out (assuming I have them) and play them on the TV. Also, games from the 4th gen and older have become so expensive and hard to come by, it is really the best way to enjoy titles from that era. In addition to this, emulation for SNES, NES, Genesis, TG16 and many of those consoles is 98% identical to the console at this point. Emulation used to be something I could not stand, but it really isn't so bad when you just want to play a game without paying a fortune on Ebay for a physical cart.
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My laptop is all jacked up so no. Gotta get the keyboard fixed first.
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Emulation is a funny thing. I have nothing against it, but for me if I own the actual game, I want to play it on it's original controller. Something about playing the game in it's "original form" so to speak.
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I don't mind emulation in the Retron 5 and Sega CDs playing in my XBox sense.
I like gaming on my TV with a familiar feeling controller.
I also like reading manuals and enjoying box art.
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Don't have one, and don't plan to use one. Particularly with the games that I do own, it seems stupid. I spent the time and money to buy them. Plus, I'm oldschool in that I like to do things the way I've always done them, and the way they're meant to be done. To quote James Rolfe - "I can't see myself hunched over a keyboard no, playing a game is sitting back on a couch with a controller in my hand, this is the real deal". Plus with emulators you're always half tempted to cheat the game with save states and changing the speed, or whatever the kids are into these days, which is also pointless. I want to just play it the way it was made, preferably.
Maybe if I thought there was no chance to ever get a copy, and I absolutely had to play it. But being honest, that's not gonna happen. Have too many actual games I need to play to worry about those I can't afford. :D
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Don't have one, and don't plan to use one. Particularly with the games that I do own, it seems stupid. I spent the time and money to buy them. Plus, I'm oldschool in that I like to do things the way I've always done them, and the way they're meant to be done. To quote James Rolfe - "I can't see myself hunched over a keyboard no, playing a game is sitting back on a couch with a controller in my hand, this is the real deal". Plus with emulators you're always half tempted to cheat the game with save states and changing the speed, or whatever the kids are into these days, which is also pointless. I want to just play it the way it was made, preferably.
Maybe if I thought there was no chance to ever get a copy, and I absolutely had to play it. But being honest, that's not gonna happen. Have too many actual games I need to play to worry about those I can't afford. :D
Seems like Mr. Rolfe needs to get himself a media PC. So he can play on his couch. With wireless pads. :P
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I'm fine with using emulators even if I don't have the game. My tv is my monitor/computer, so there's difference for me and I can just use a 360 controller to play the games just fine. Not really worried about piracy with games that released 20+ years ago lol
I could be turned around through other methods though. Like there's an HDMI NES in the works that someday might get released and you put that with an emulator cart and a new NES controller with clicky buttons, and you have the best experience for NES gaming there is. It's better than playing a brand new NES lol
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Nope. I only use emulation for games I don't have. I don't even have all of my systems set up- so when I want to play Genesis? I dig it out and set it up.
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i did when i was younger and didn't have the means to own the games themselves, but i've always hated it
doesn't feel authentic
using the real hardware is part of the fun, especially when it comes to controllers
hell, i usually lose interest if i buy the games legit on virtual console only to find them in the wild later and play 'em all the way through
could be some sort of old dude mentality. i dunno
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The feeling I have playing those games on my 30' Trinitron CRT with the original hardware is the main reason I'm collecting, no emulators for me!
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Emulation is a funny thing. I have nothing against it, but for me if I own the actual game, I want to play it on it's original controller. Something about playing the game in it's "original form" so to speak.
I know what you mean about the controller. Picking up an old NES controller to play a game, it immediately feels familiar in your hands. Same for any other console.
But man, having all my carts emulated on my phone, laying in bed...I can acclimate to the slightly different feel of the Moga! ;)
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I also like reading manuals and enjoying box art.
A dying breed my friend. Sad that today's games barely come in a box if you are lucky and so many are just digital download only. :'(
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I used to play SNES games on emulators back in the day, but nowadays I prefer the real thing. I'm thankful that emulation is possible, though. I was able to play Tales of Phantasia, Secret of Mana 2 and a bunch of other great SNES RPGs that never made it this side thanks to both emulation and the dedication of some hardworking "fanslators."
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Don't have one, and don't plan to use one. Particularly with the games that I do own, it seems stupid. I spent the time and money to buy them. Plus, I'm oldschool in that I like to do things the way I've always done them, and the way they're meant to be done. To quote James Rolfe - "I can't see myself hunched over a keyboard no, playing a game is sitting back on a couch with a controller in my hand, this is the real deal". Plus with emulators you're always half tempted to cheat the game with save states and changing the speed, or whatever the kids are into these days, which is also pointless. I want to just play it the way it was made, preferably.
Maybe if I thought there was no chance to ever get a copy, and I absolutely had to play it. But being honest, that's not gonna happen. Have too many actual games I need to play to worry about those I can't afford. :D
I don't think I've ever played an emulated game in a way that it wasn't originally intended, except for using a save state because life is so hectic these days.
My personal situation, there is no way I can have my old systems out for daily use. A wife, two growing teen & pre-teen girls and a couple of doggies pretty much takes up a lot of room and a lot of time.
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I don't think I have reach the point in my collection where I would have go into a excavation expedition to find my games and give up and go to emulators.
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I don't think I have reach the point in my collection where I would have go into a excavation expedition to find my games and give up and go to emulators.
Limited space my friend. When I married my wife, I took on two little girls, 1 and 4. They shared a bedroom and I had a bedroom all for my gaming collection. Well....some years go by, 1 and 4 become 10 and 13 and they needed their own rooms. Hence, no more gaming room. So all my old stuff gets packed away and only my newest systems (PS4, PS3, Wii and Wii U as well as handhelds) are out for regular use.
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I don't think I have reach the point in my collection where I would have go into a excavation expedition to find my games and give up and go to emulators.
Limited space my friend. When I married my wife, I took on two little girls, 1 and 4. They shared a bedroom and I had a bedroom all for my gaming collection. Well....some years go by, 1 and 4 become 10 and 13 and they needed their own rooms. Hence, no more gaming room. So all my old stuff gets packed away and only my newest systems (PS4, PS3, Wii and Wii U as well as handhelds) are out for regular use.
It'll happen, brother. Life gets in the way.
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I don't think I have reach the point in my collection where I would have go into a excavation expedition to find my games and give up and go to emulators.
Limited space my friend. When I married my wife, I took on two little girls, 1 and 4. They shared a bedroom and I had a bedroom all for my gaming collection. Well....some years go by, 1 and 4 become 10 and 13 and they needed their own rooms. Hence, no more gaming room. So all my old stuff gets packed away and only my newest systems (PS4, PS3, Wii and Wii U as well as handhelds) are out for regular use.
Yeah, that sucks but Family > Games
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I kind of like the digging out part. Reminds me of being a kid, hooking a console up. I don't and wouldn't pack them away, like in a closet or an attic, but I have one dresser drawer that pretty much holds all of my excess consoles. So it's just pull it out, plug it up and go. Of course, all the games are easily accessible from various shelves, so it's no big deal to me.
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I don't think I have reach the point in my collection where I would have go into a excavation expedition to find my games and give up and go to emulators.
Limited space my friend. When I married my wife, I took on two little girls, 1 and 4. They shared a bedroom and I had a bedroom all for my gaming collection. Well....some years go by, 1 and 4 become 10 and 13 and they needed their own rooms. Hence, no more gaming room. So all my old stuff gets packed away and only my newest systems (PS4, PS3, Wii and Wii U as well as handhelds) are out for regular use.
It'll happen, brother. Life gets in the way.
Yep, wouldn't trade them for the world either. Maybe mint copies of both Lunar games on PS1...Lol...just kiddin.
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Every time people bring up nostalgia as a reason for not playing on emulators, I counter with this:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/N64_controller.jpg)
This is the single worst controller I have ever used and if you want to use this willingly, well...
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Every time people bring up nostalgia as a reason for not playing on emulators, I counter with this:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/N64_controller.jpg)
This is the single worst controller I have ever used and if you want to use this willingly, well...
I like the n64 controller...
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Every time people bring up nostalgia as a reason for not playing on emulators, I counter with this:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/N64_controller.jpg)
This is the single worst controller I have ever used and if you want to use this willingly, well...
I like the n64 controller...
I mean, it's an oddly shaped controller to be sure. It looks like the end of a trident or a pitchfork. But, I never had any issues with it.
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Every time people bring up nostalgia as a reason for not playing on emulators, I counter with this:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/N64_controller.jpg)
This is the single worst controller I have ever used and if you want to use this willingly, well...
10000000% agreed. That was the most uncomfortable controller I have ever used. I think it single-handedly ensured my N64 was barely every used. The left "handle" pressed into the back of my hand, right behind my index finger knuckle. It also caused me to have to hold the controller at a right angle which completely threw off my coordination with the analog stick. The N64 didn't have too many "critical darlings" for me gamewise as-is. I probably would have enjoyed Banjo-Kazooie a thousand times more with a decent controller.
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Yep, worst controller I have EVER played on. I bought an adapter that allows me to use a GameCube controller on my N64, works quite well.
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Yep, worst controller I have EVER played on. I bought an adapter that allows me to use a GameCube controller on my N64, works quite well.
I guess I'm the only person on Planet Earth that loathes the GameCube controller.
The n64 controller is odd, for sure; but the GameCube controller can suck my boy parts. Nothing feels like it's in the right spot. It may be because my hands are too big for it.
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Yep, worst controller I have EVER played on. I bought an adapter that allows me to use a GameCube controller on my N64, works quite well.
I guess I'm the only person on Planet Earth that loathes the GameCube controller.
The n64 controller is odd, for sure; but the GameCube controller can suck my boy parts. Nothing feels like it's in the right spot. It may be because my hands are too big for it.
I wouldn't say loathe, but I think the GC controller's design is ridiculous. Half of the games I played on it I struggled because of the bizarre design.
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The best controller in the world.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41fVaOQVz8L.jpg)
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am i one of the only people that thinks the n64 controller is one of the best and most comfertable controllers? and no nestalgia is not included here as i had not ever played the n64 until 2 years ago and didnt even have one till last summer.
Anyway as for the emulations the only time i ever use them is with games that were never released in the US as i will not buy things online and the chances of finding one in the wild is real slim.
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The N64 controller was pretty cool at the time with its analog stick but for many games having the D-pad in a separate area wasn't very clever, and I remember it hurting my hands when playing Forsaken or Turok intensively. The C-buttons were often used like a stick and it feels weird to play with it again nowadays... Oh and the analog needed frequent maintenance, which was not so great.
The best controller in the world.
QFT!!
IMO the Dual Shock 4 is so good it became my favorite recently but the NGC controller is indeed fantastic.
I fancy my new Smash Bros version with its ugraded Z-button, I use it whenever I can:
(http://i.imgur.com/hrl5gRsl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/hrl5gRs)
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Yep, worst controller I have EVER played on. I bought an adapter that allows me to use a GameCube controller on my N64, works quite well.
I guess I'm the only person on Planet Earth that loathes the GameCube controller.
The n64 controller is odd, for sure; but the GameCube controller can suck my boy parts. Nothing feels like it's in the right spot. It may be because my hands are too big for it.
I actually enjoy the GameCube a lot as long as I am using it for only GameCube games. I used it for playing Donkey Kong Country 3 on virtual console before I had the SNES cart and wanted to break the damn thing. Took 12 hours to 103% complete DKC3 which I can do in 3-4 hours on SNES.
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I'm firmly in the "N64 controller is great" camp, it's one of my favs. That being said, I have a bias as it's one of the few controllers designed for those of us with three arms.
I'd like to addend my original statement, btw- I will play emulators and roms for shit I have IF I'm chilling with a friend and we want to play random games. That is to say, we pick a system and literally pick a game completely at random from the hundreds or more available roms. It's a quite fun way to play tonnes of games (of varying quality) that we wouldn't otherwise play.
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I prefer to play some of the older titles (NES/SNES/Genesis/etc) emulated. I have a couple PS2 to USB adapters so I have a really nice controller to use. My older systems were so over used by me back in the day they can get a little unreliable at times.
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I emulate all the time and have for years. If it's an expensive retro game I'd like to play, I take no issue in tracking down a ROM. Emulation is increasingly becoming the future and I see more and more collectors embracing it as a playing method.
As for the controller discussion, I'm an odd one in that I loved the N64 controller and hated the GCN one.
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i did when i was younger and didn't have the means to own the games themselves, but i've always hated it
doesn't feel authentic
using the real hardware is part of the fun, especially when it comes to controllers
hell, i usually lose interest if i buy the games legit on virtual console only to find them in the wild later and play 'em all the way through
could be some sort of old dude mentality. i dunno
I agree with you.
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I don't use emulators. I prefer the actual console. I tried emulators with vinesauce, it din't work out so well.
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I use an emulator (on my PC) for convenience and to keep my original games in "like new" condition. I like having roms as sort of "digital copies" of the games I own/collect. I just recently started downloading roms of games that were not released in the US and have been "unofficially" translated. In terms of downloading roms of games you haven't purchased, it's a bit of a gray area; especially since older games aren't being sold in stores anymore.