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General and Gaming => Modern Video Games => Topic started by: weirdfeline on February 18, 2021, 01:19:53 am
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The first major Nintendo Direct since September 2019 aired today. What did you think of it?
My favorite reveal was Splatoon 3. I wasn't expecting that at all and I look forward to playing that when it releases in 2022.
I was also happy to see Plants vs. Zombies: Battle for Neighborville announced for Nintendo Switch. A great game I play frequently on PS4 can now be enjoyed by even more people. Unfortunately, while new features such as motion controls are being added they are not adding cross-play functionality to a game that could definitely use it.
On the negative side I found the new Mario Golf entry to be quite boring and lacking in Mario Golf charm.
I also am not fond of yet another $60 port. This time Skyward Sword. No new content but it is now playable without motion controls. The game is just $20 on the Wii U eShop but for Switch you need to pay an extra $40.. thanks Nintendo!
Whoops! I forgot about Stubbs! Looking forward to picking that up on PS4 at some point!
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I have mixed feelings about the Direct overall. I was mostly just Happ to have an actual Direct after all this time. But a lot of it didn't appeal to me at all. Really disappointed with the Smash reveal, as all I've been hoping for since DLC was even announced in the beginning was Crash in Smash. He is such an obvious choice and deserving of a spot yet they keep giving us these obscure characters or random picks. So right out of the gate I was let down watching this Direct.
That said, Legend of Mana was a pleasant surprise even if it's a direct port, it's one of my absolute favorite games, and I'll be so happy to play it again. Mario Golf looks okay, golf isn't my favorite sport, but I know I'll get it. Project Triangle Strategy looks pretty good and since I loved Octopath Traveler I have decently high expectations for this one although a Tactics style game is not my preferred genre. Zelda Skyward Sword HD is another okay game getting a new release, and not surprising that it's happening. I didn't love the game on Wii but I'm going to buy it and replay it anyway. Splatoon 3 is yet another game I'm just moderately looking forward to. I liked the first two games,and this was a big reveal overall,but it's just not my type of game.
So, for me, the Direct had extremely limited appeal. But I think overall it was pretty good, had a few surprises, and there was something there for everyone. Plus like I said it was just so good to even just have a Direct again after all this time.
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Sincerely I thought it was boring, but not because the games were bad or something negative is just that I am not interesed in them.
They announced a lot of shooters looking games and rpgs with anime looking characters that I am sincerely pretty tired of seeing, I was hoping for announces of platformers titles because that's my favorite genre but besides that game of thecreators of Danganropa I don't recall anything else similar and Ghost n Goblins will be available for a console I have until the second half of the year.
Anyway it was fine direct, but the announcements weren't for me.
From Pyra in Smash to Splatoon 3 is just stuff I am not interesed.
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Not a great Direct. I didn't particularly hate anything, but it was mostly just ports and games we knew about already and the new stuff didn't do a whole lot for me. Mario Golf might be a bit of casual fun since I haven't played the series since 64, but otherwise the only game was Skyward Sword HD, something I've been interested in for abit as I wanted to give it another shot, hopefully without motion controls, see if I hate it as much as I use to. As long as there are other QoL stuff going on, I might actually like it more than when I first played it on the Wii. It'll never be a great game, it had issues, but it could potentially be better than Wind Waker for me, which dropped to the bottom of the 3D Zelda list for me after replaying the HD version on Wii U. Splatoon is okay, but it's a 2022 game, so it's basically unimportant for a long while.
Also, if it wasn't for Monster Hunter Rise, I'd probably be barely touching my Switch for most of the year until June/July, there is so little I want to play on the Switch and this Direct did little to say otherwise for me.
The biggest disappointment was nothing for the Zelda anniversary. Sure we were teased Age of Calamity DLC and got Skyward Sword HD, but absolutely no mention of the anniversary itself and no talk of anything else. No compilations, no new remake, not even Twilight Princess and Wind Waker HD getting easy ports to the Switch. It's possible they could have another surprise Direct planned next week, but that would be after the anniversary's date this Sunday. I'm sure Nintendo didn't forget, I'm just not understanding where their headspace is for this right now.
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Not a great Direct. I didn't particularly hate anything, but it was mostly just ports and games we knew about already and the new stuff didn't do a whole lot for me. Mario Golf might be a bit of casual fun since I haven't played the series since 64, but otherwise the only game was Skyward Sword HD, something I've been interested in for abit as I wanted to give it another shot, hopefully without motion controls, see if I hate it as much as I use to. As long as there are other QoL stuff going on, I might actually like it more than when I first played it on the Wii. It'll never be a great game, it had issues, but it could potentially be better than Wind Waker for me, which dropped to the bottom of the 3D Zelda list for me after replaying the HD version on Wii U. Splatoon is okay, but it's a 2022 game, so it's basically unimportant for a long while.
Also, if it wasn't for Monster Hunter Rise, I'd probably be barely touching my Switch for most of the year until June/July, there is so little I want to play on the Switch and this Direct did little to say otherwise for me.
The biggest disappointment was nothing for the Zelda anniversary. Sure we were teased Age of Calamity DLC and got Skyward Sword HD, but absolutely no mention of the anniversary itself and no talk of anything else. No compilations, no new remake, not even Twilight Princess and Wind Waker HD getting easy ports to the Switch. It's possible they could have another surprise Direct planned next week, but that would be after the anniversary's date this Sunday. I'm sure Nintendo didn't forget, I'm just not understanding where their headspace is for this right now.
VGC and Eurogamer who leaked Super Mario 3D All-Stars, Paper Mario: The Origami King and the Super Mario 3D World port have confirmed both Wind Waker and Twilight Princess are coming this year.
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They didn't show anything that I'm planning to buy.... not even for my kids.
The best they had to offer (for me) was Zelda Skyward Sword and the fact that they added regular push button controls to it. Skyward Sword's forced motion controls on the Wii ruined me on Nintendo from a couple months after its initial release all the way to when the Switch released as they pushed "Play how you want" and showed the Pro controller a lot. I ended up getting the Switch for the family.
Zelda is my favorite Nintendo franchise, but Skyward Sword left such a bad impression that even with regular controls, I don't think I'll bother touching it. Had they announced Twilight Princess HD and/or Wind Waker HD coming to Switch instead... I would have preordered them immediately.
VGC and Eurogamer who leaked Super Mario 3D All-Stars, Paper Mario: The Origami King and the Super Mario 3D World port have confirmed both Wind Waker and Twilight Princess are coming this year.
Glad to hear, but I won't hold my breath. Even credible sources get information wrong.
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I already knew about SaGa Frontier, and a buddy of mine texted me about Legend of Mana. Triangle Strategy is intriguing so I may check out the demo sooner than later. I'm still pretty busy with the SamSho NG collection on my Switch.
As for Pyra/Mythra: another sword user from a game I didn't care for. Xeno representation is great but still. Now, if KOS-MOS were announced it would have been enough for me to get back into Smash 110%.
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Triangle Strategy is intriguing so I may check out the demo sooner than later. I'm still pretty busy with the SamSho NG collection on my Switch.
This was the most interested I was during the entire presentation. I love Fire Emblem, and that art style makes my mouth water, so I hope it is good!
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Triangle Strategy is intriguing so I may check out the demo sooner than later. I'm still pretty busy with the SamSho NG collection on my Switch.
This was the most interested I was during the entire presentation. I love Fire Emblem, and that art style makes my mouth water, so I hope it is good!
I'm downloading the demo now.
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I also am not fond of yet another $60 port. This time Skyward Sword. No new content but it is now playable without motion controls. The game is just $20 on the Wii U eShop but for Switch you need to pay an extra $40.. thanks Nintendo!
Wouldn't be surprised if they pulled the Wii U version of Skyward Sword from the store like they did with Pikmin 3 and Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze
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Very disappointing. Literally everything I wanted to hear about was ignored. No Metroid Prime 4, no Zelda Collection, no Super Metroid Remake, and no Breath of the Wild 2. Not only no Breath of the Wild 2, but they came out saying they know we want to hear about it but won't. What a tease.
I guess Skyward Sword HD is cool, but I still haven't played my Wii copy of it, yet.
I don't care about Splatoon, I don't care about mystery novel games, I'm not into tactical strategy games. So this Direct didn't appeal to me.
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I'm actually a bit miffed they didn't mention much on Zelda given that it's what... the 35th anniversary? We recently got the Mario pack with the N64, GC and Wii games on a single cart. I was honestly expecting something similar with Zelda. I suppose there's still time for the rest of the year... but it's still a disappointment that all we got was Skyward Sword... the worst Zelda created in my opinion.
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I'm actually a bit miffed they didn't mention much on Zelda given that it's what... the 35th anniversary? We recently got the Mario pack with the N64, GC and Wii games on a single cart. I was honestly expecting something similar with Zelda. I suppose there's still time for the rest of the year... but it's still a disappointment that all we got was Skyward Sword... the worst Zelda created in my opinion.
They didn't do a Mario 35th Direct until over halfway through the year, so I'm not expecting anything until E3 at the earliest.
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Splatoon 3 was the absolute highlight for me. I don't think fans of the series were expecting a follow-up entry for quite some time—I, for sure, wasn't. I'm definitely pleased with the new part of the world that was teased which directly exists because of the results of the final live event for Splatoon 2 which dictated the series's forthcoming direction.
World's End Club and Project Triangle Strategy are two more entries I'll be keeping an eye on. In a similar vein, the port of Stubbs the Zombie was definitely not expected. I had heard of possible leaks for a PS4 version, but I was certainly not anticipating it to extend to Switch.
Meanwhile, as always, the Nintendo Japan direct was different. If you're interested in the Boku no Natsuyasumi series, I think you'll be pleased with this announcement (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLrCa1-oQ7o).
Overall, just as every direct, not everything was for me, which is perfectly expected and fine. Mario Golf: Super Rush seems to be most disappointing.
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Does it seem like we've been stuck in a near five year drought of Nintendo just re-releasing old games? They haven't had to spend a dime coming up with a new franchise entry since the Switch debuted. That's so lazy. Most of the games I get excited for on the Switch have nothing to do with Nintendo. Kinda sad.
Wouldn't be surprised if they pulled the Wii U version of Skyward Sword from the store like they did with Pikmin 3 and Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze
Wow, they actually did that? So lame. "Nobody bought our last console, so now if you wanna play those games, you're buying our new one!" Smh.
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Does it seem like we've been stuck in a near five year drought of Nintendo just re-releasing old games? They haven't had to spend a dime coming up with a new franchise entry since the Switch debuted. That's so lazy. Most of the games I get excited for on the Switch have nothing to do with Nintendo. Kinda sad.
Wouldn't be surprised if they pulled the Wii U version of Skyward Sword from the store like they did with Pikmin 3 and Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze
Wow, they actually did that? So lame. "Nobody bought our last console, so now if you wanna play those games, you're buying our new one!" Smh.
Seriously. What happened to Metroid Prime 4 and Breath of the Wild 2. They were announced ages ago.
I'd also love to see a new Golden Sun, but that's a pipe dream.
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Does it seem like we've been stuck in a near five year drought of Nintendo just re-releasing old games? They haven't had to spend a dime coming up with a new franchise entry since the Switch debuted. That's so lazy.
I'm a little confused by this. Without a doubt, Nintendo has been re-releasing older games to the Switch. However, there have also been numerous fresh IPs across the almost-four years since the Switch debuted.
Switch: 1-2 Switch, Arms, Nintendo Labo, Ring Fit Adventure, Jump Rope Challenge
And, by comparison, here are new IPs debuting among older Nintendo consoles, with the Switch actually so far having introduced the most new IPs second to the DS when going back as far as the Game Boy Advance:
Game Boy Advance: WarioWare, Mario & Luigi, Rhythm Tengoku
GameCube: Luigi's Mansion, Pikmin, Metroid Prime
DS: Nintendogs, Brain Age, Big Brain Academy, Fossil Fighters, Tomodachi Collection, Art Academy
Wii: Wii series
3DS: Steel Diver, Miitopia
Wii U: Nintendo Land, Splatoon, Captain Toad, Super Mario Maker
Generally, Nintendo stays within a safe zone and continues to expand upon existing franchises. Nintendo owns very few subsidiaries, meaning few new IPs are made across a system's life. On the hand, a company like Sony is a huge conglomerate, with new IPs being introduced at a much higher rate.
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Pyra/Mythra...don't know anything about the characters. I have the games but haven't gotten around to playing them. :P My hope is (and I'm sure this is going to happen) is that they get separate amiibo releases like Cloud/Bayonetta P1/P2 figures.
Mario Golf looked kinda lackluster. I'm sure it'll play fine but seems...bland? Is it done by Clap Hanz/Camelot or what not?
Monster Hunter Rise...saw the blurb for the MH Switch and Pro Controller...there goes another $400. :o I JUST grabbed one of those Mario Switch systems and I KNOW they're going to roll out one for Zelda for the 35th anniversary. Speaking of, I NEED those JoyCons. I'm not even the biggest Zelda person but I've bought just about every Zelda special edition system they've put out (the exception being the Hylian Shield 2DS which I never got around to getting).
Decent amount of titles in this direct I'd like to get but the biggest aggravation was them not indicating if there's going to be physical releases or not. I've little doubt that the Famicom Mystery Club games will be digital only but things like Stubbs, No More Heroes 3, and such...who knows? ???
Was watching the Direct with my roommate's son and he loves him some Mario. He actually expressed interest in the Mario items in Animal Crossing but hasn't yet been exposed to the evil that is Tom Nook and I'm afraid to unleash that upon him. :P
Overall it seems like people were kinda of disappointed with the direct and I'm sitting here thinking "RIP my wallet". ;)
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Speaking of, I NEED those JoyCons. I'm not even the biggest Zelda person but I've bought just about every Zelda special edition system they've put out (the exception being the Hylian Shield 2DS which I never got around to getting).
They just started going up for pre-order. Already available on GameStop and Best Buy.
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I don't think anything looked interesting enough to pick up. I'm a big Mario Golf fan, but there's no way this new one is going to live up to the GameCube and 3DS iterations, it looks bland and boring as hell.
More Splatoon? Meh.
Two anime chicks in Smash Bros.? Meh. Guess I'll continue not owning any of fighters pass 2.
Bad Zelda gets HD treatment for forty more dollars than you can get it for Wii or Wii U? Meh.
Miitopia coming to Switch for double the price you can buy the original for? Meh.
The Switch is just a rerelease machine at this point.
Where's a new Mario Kart? I've been playing Mario Kart 8 for seven years. At least give us some DLC for the existing game if you're going to continue squeezing life out of it. What happened to Metroid, Zelda BotW 2, and Bayonetta 3?
Seriously, if you owned a Wii U, it's like there's nothing to play on the Switch, just a bunch of ports with slight additions to existing games.
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Seriously, if you owned a Wii U, it's like there's nothing to play on the Switch, just a bunch of ports with slight additions to existing games.
This is why outside of that first year of the Switch, I haven't played my Switch a whole lot. There's been some alright good games on Switch, but so many ports and remasters...Which wouldn't be the worst thing if it was stuff I wanted ported or remastered. I did technically want Skyward Sword for the sake of wanting to give it another replay without motion controls and it's the only 3D Zelda that hasn't been touched up, so we'll see how that goes, but I'm not EXCITED for Skyward Sword, this playthrough will be to find out if I hate it as much as I use to lol
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Seriously, if you owned a Wii U, it's like there's nothing to play on the Switch, just a bunch of ports with slight additions to existing games.
This is why outside of that first year of the Switch, I haven't played my Switch a whole lot. There's been some alright good games on Switch, but so many ports and remasters...Which wouldn't be the worst thing if it was stuff I wanted ported or remastered. I did technically want Skyward Sword for the sake of wanting to give it another replay without motion controls and it's the only 3D Zelda that hasn't been touched up, so we'll see how that goes, but I'm not EXCITED for Skyward Sword, this playthrough will be to find out if I hate it as much as I use to lol
I've mostly played it for indie games and PC ports, and it has been spectacular for all those, but it has definitely been a bit of a drought in for big AAA titles over the last year or so.
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Does it seem like we've been stuck in a near five year drought of Nintendo just re-releasing old games? They haven't had to spend a dime coming up with a new franchise entry since the Switch debuted. That's so lazy.
I'm a little confused by this. Without a doubt, Nintendo has been re-releasing older games to the Switch. However, there have also been numerous fresh IPs across the almost-four years since the Switch debuted.
Switch: 1-2 Switch, Arms, Nintendo Labo, Ring Fit Adventure, Jump Rope Challenge
And, by comparison, here are new IPs debuting among older Nintendo consoles, with the Switch actually so far having introduced the most new IPs second to the DS when going back as far as the Game Boy Advance:
Game Boy Advance: WarioWare, Mario & Luigi, Rhythm Tengoku
GameCube: Luigi's Mansion, Pikmin, Metroid Prime
DS: Nintendogs, Brain Age, Big Brain Academy, Fossil Fighters, Tomodachi Collection, Art Academy
Wii: Wii series
3DS: Steel Diver, Miitopia
Wii U: Nintendo Land, Splatoon, Captain Toad, Super Mario Maker
Generally, Nintendo stays within a safe zone and continues to expand upon existing franchises. Nintendo owns very few subsidiaries, meaning few new IPs are made across a system's life. On the hand, a company like Sony is a huge conglomerate, with new IPs being introduced at a much higher rate.
My wording was a bit confused. I meant new entries into an existing franchise, but you underscore another point - the new IPs are lacking too. Exercise, toys to life, party games.... why Nintendo? Why are we dead to you?
But as far as "new" entries as in... a new Zelda? We had a Wii U developed game that became cross platform, a remake of a Game Boy title, and now a re-release of a Wii title coming up on the 4th anniversary of the Switch. We had Mario Odyssey, I'll give them that but oh man, that's been a while ago hasn't it? Then we had NSMB U re-release, now SM3D World re-release, no talk of a upcoming new title. We had Mario Kart 8 r-release, no new Mario Kart. We had Pikmin 3 re-release, no new Pikmin. Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze re-release, no new Donkey Kong. Beyonetta 2 re-release, no new Beyonetta. Captain Toad re-release, no talk of a new game. I imagine I could go on, and on.
Brilliant from a business perspective, take the fruits of their previous failed endeavor and just run them all again. Not so fun for those of us who bought in the first time around.
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Seriously, if you owned a Wii U, it's like there's nothing to play on the Switch, just a bunch of ports with slight additions to existing games.
That's why it took me so long to buy one. Just got mine at the beginning of this year.
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I was really excited that the Nintendo Direct was on my birthday then super disappointed by the number of JRPGs that got annouced.
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One battle down in the Triangle Strategy demo and it seems like SOP strategy RPG fare. I'm getting more Tactics Ogre vibes than anything else. I do like that it's a bit more streamlined - easy to move/end turns without a bunch of confirmations. Also, team attacks are a thing so that's fun.
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I was hoping for more Zelda, being the 35th anniversary and all that. I seem to be one of the few that actually liked Skyward Sword the first time around, so I’ll probably get it again to have a portable version Fall Guys coming to Switch is good news for me, since I’ve been wanting to try it out for a while. The Capcom arcade thing is the only other one that I’m interested in, even though there does seem to be a bit of overlap with other titles, like the Street Fighter collection. Not a great Nintendo Direct for me, but not terrible either.
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I was hoping for more Zelda, being the 35th anniversary and all that. I seem to be one of the few that actually liked Skyward Sword the first time around, so I’ll probably get it again to have a portable version Fall Guys coming to Switch is good news for me, since I’ve been wanting to try it out for a while. The Capcom arcade thing is the only other one that I’m interested in, even though there does seem to be a bit of overlap with other titles, like the Street Fighter collection. Not a great Nintendo Direct for me, but not terrible either.
If it was some years ago I'd be excited for the Capcom Collection. But as it stands in 2021 I already have on my PS2, GBA, and Xbox One & Xbox 360.
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They just started going up for pre-order. Already available on GameStop and Best Buy.
Only found the JoyCons on GS, nothing for the MH system or Pro Controller. Of course GS has the JoyCons listed as 'Not Available'. Best Buy has the JoyCons and Pro Controller but with a grayed-out 'Coming Soon' button. :-\
I'm hoping it'll be like it's recently been where they've had a decent amount available at the get go as that's been the case with the Game & Watch, Fire Emblem Anniversary Box and most recently the Mario Switch system. I'm NOT trying to fight with scalpers over these. >:(
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I feel as if this image sums up Nintendo's decisions to re-release older titles for the Switch.
(https://im4.ezgif.com/tmp/ezgif-4-aec3e5df0565.jpg)
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They just started going up for pre-order. Already available on GameStop and Best Buy.
Only found the JoyCons on GS, nothing for the MH system or Pro Controller. Of course GS has the JoyCons listed as 'Not Available'. Best Buy has the JoyCons and Pro Controller but with a grayed-out 'Coming Soon' button. :-\
I'm hoping it'll be like it's recently been where they've had a decent amount available at the get go as that's been the case with the Game & Watch, Fire Emblem Anniversary Box and most recently the Mario Switch system. I'm NOT trying to fight with scalpers over these. >:(
The Monster Hunter stuff went up at Target earlier.
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I feel as if this image sums up Nintendo's decisions to re-release older titles for the Switch.
(https://im4.ezgif.com/tmp/ezgif-4-aec3e5df0565.jpg)
But it's not like Nintendo is the only culprit of HD remasters.
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But it's not like Nintendo is the only culprit of HD remasters.
Of course they aren't, nor was I suggesting the idea. Yet, how Nintendo introduces remastered projects and ports is unmatched in terms of added content, general updates, and pricing, which others before me in this thread have also shared the opinion of with examples. That the standard Wii version of ten years was listed with a MSRP of $50 while the Switch version is $60 is a little upsetting. However, Nintendo is only able to get away with it because they know that, for every disgruntled fan who voices concern over the practice, another two eagerly pre-order.