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Title: Would you buy a next gen console without a disc drive?
Post by: seether on March 07, 2019, 03:55:35 pm
Everything is moving away from physical.

Are you ready?

Title: Re: Would you buy a next gen console without a disc drive?
Post by: afroyoshi on March 07, 2019, 05:04:17 pm
Hell no! I don't mind buying digital games, but i'm not down with buying only digital games.
Title: Re: Would you buy a next gen console without a disc drive?
Post by: oldgamerz on March 07, 2019, 06:06:01 pm
It don't matter to me anymore, the game in most modern releases don't include the game on the disc anyway, In fact I been thinking for a while. Because I don't know what my future brings and if I ever had to sell my collection and moved back into an apartment

That it would just be better after all to pay a cheap monthly rental fee for the console and hopefully the games will be cheaper as well and down in price. Due to not being able to actually hold them or possible keep them in 5-10 years from current.

I worry at lot about needing to sell my collection to the point I can't enjoy too many games anymore the gaming industry of today is really depressing me. and I think Anthem was possibley hacked or programmed to brink peoples PlayStation 4's, sometimes I wounder if SONY actually paid the developers of Anthem to brick the consoles on purpose just to sell more PlayStation 4's >:(
Title: Re: Would you buy a next gen console without a disc drive?
Post by: oldgamerz on March 07, 2019, 06:14:52 pm
Everything is moving away from physical.

Are you ready?

We know how many times do you have to repeat yourself. Are you Ready?
Title: Re: Would you buy a next gen console without a disc drive?
Post by: kamikazekeeg on March 07, 2019, 06:48:01 pm
I wouldn't like it, but I'm not against it as it's inevitable.  As a PC owner, this has already happened and I buy all games digitally on here, but I like being able to buy games, beat them, and then if I don't plan to replay them, I trade or sell them, so basically I save money on the game.  Usually for PC games, it's games I'm gonna like or at least get a lot of time out of.
Title: Re: Would you buy a next gen console without a disc drive?
Post by: seberhusky on March 07, 2019, 06:48:16 pm
No, it is not, and no I will not.
Title: Re: Would you buy a next gen console without a disc drive?
Post by: Agozer on March 07, 2019, 07:39:06 pm
No, it is not, and no I will not.
This.

One if the biggest issues I have with current PC gaming is the fact that while you can buy a boxed game, it means nothing thanks to the "game" being just a Steam Key these days. Besides, you don't truly own digital games and you can't sell or loan them to a friend, something which I'm very much against.

Microsoft can market its discless Xbox all it wants, but I sure as hell won't even be giving it a glance. Same thing if Sony would ever come out with a similar PlayStation.
Title: Re: Would you buy a next gen console without a disc drive?
Post by: justin8301 on March 07, 2019, 08:29:10 pm
First let me state that I am a collector of physical media and will always prefer physical over digital; however with that said I could totally see myself purchasing a next gen digital only console under two very specific conditions. 1) the device has expandable memory and 2) the device is a portable system like the Switch. The Switch has help me see how convenient having your games as a digital collection on the device actually is, being able to have your entire game library on the go is kinda awesome. Currently I still buy physical switch games, and if the next console release has physical media available I will still buy physical, but if they decided to drop the media slot, it wouldn't stop me from buying it. 
Title: Re: Would you buy a next gen console without a disc drive?
Post by: hoshichiri on March 07, 2019, 11:21:33 pm
I've said it before, I'll say it again- I will cling to this sinking ship of physical media for as long as I possibly can. At some point in the future, once physical is gone and I've been drug kicking & screaming into an all-digital world, then I'll decide if I give in and join, or if I retreat into a world of retro plastic tat.
Title: Re: Would you buy a next gen console without a disc drive?
Post by: weirdfeline on March 08, 2019, 01:30:36 am
Hell no. PS5 will still have discs.

However, with perhaps PS6, I may. If PlayStation Now starts launching exclusives on the service day one like Xbox Game Pass does now I wouldn't hate that.

I don't like buying digital games unless it's way cheaper than physical and even then I hesitate. If a physical copy doesn't exist I'll usually wait for one to exist. Most of my digital collection consists of PS Plus titles, Humble Bundle titles, or deep price cuts. I have not paid $15+ for any one digital game.

I would prefer to subscribe to PlayStation Now and download games that way than outright purchase digital games. It's kinda the same thing except the PS Now option being cheaper. Sure, they could remove titles but that's really the only downside with the service vs. paying for digital games.
Title: Re: Would you buy a next gen console without a disc drive?
Post by: bigonanime on March 08, 2019, 02:10:08 am
The moment gaming goes digital-only, I'll stick with only older games, no exceptions, so no.
Title: Re: Would you buy a next gen console without a disc drive?
Post by: pzeke on March 08, 2019, 10:32:26 am
I’ve only two things to say...

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...and...

(https://i.imgur.com/6Aj0MHJ.gif)

Adios.
Title: Re: Would you buy a next gen console without a disc drive?
Post by: Cartagia on March 08, 2019, 10:45:34 am
My knee-jerk reaction is a pretty hard no, but I do agree with justin's point here:

under two very specific conditions. 1) the device has expandable memory and 2) the device is a portable system like the Switch. The Switch has help me see how convenient having your games as a digital collection on the device actually is, being able to have your entire game library on the go is kinda awesome. Currently I still buy physical switch games, and if the next console release has physical media available I will still buy physical, but if they decided to drop the media slot, it wouldn't stop me from buying it.

I'd probably be down for a purely digital handheld / portable console of some sort.
Title: Re: Would you buy a next gen console without a disc drive?
Post by: sworddude on March 08, 2019, 10:45:44 am
Seether along with pretty much everyone else who reacted on this topic are lying pretty hard

I can't remember a switch having a disc drive or using discs period and pretty much everyone bought one. So i guess people can live withouth them discs in the next generation.

Title: Re: Would you buy a next gen console without a disc drive?
Post by: Cartagia on March 08, 2019, 10:46:59 am
Seether along with pretty much everyone else who reacted on this topic are lying pretty hard

I can't remember a switch having a disc drive or using discs period and pretty much everyone bought one. So i guess people can live withouth them discs in the next generation.

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Title: Re: Would you buy a next gen console without a disc drive?
Post by: pzeke on March 08, 2019, 12:27:05 pm
Seether along with pretty much everyone else who reacted on this topic are lying pretty hard

(https://i.imgur.com/shgCtNQ.gif)
Title: Re: Would you buy a next gen console without a disc drive?
Post by: sworddude on March 08, 2019, 02:32:59 pm
Seether along with pretty much everyone else who reacted on this topic are lying pretty hard

(https://i.imgur.com/shgCtNQ.gif)

i got a switch so I'm pretty sure i will buy the next generation of consoles even if discs will dissapear as long as the franchises that I like will still release games. even in worst case scenario download only I would still get it for certain games.

Also if we purely would look at the exact title of this topic

Everyone who owns a switch will buy the next generation of consoles even if they would be withouth a disc drive to play discs. Not to mention a pretty popular system in general so even in that regard not that big of a deal for many even if we would ignore the fact that many people are ok with a download only for full retail price.

edit

Also I admit a bit of a rough comment on my part

But it was just a joke since the title is kinda dumb in my opinion considering that even the Topic starter has a current gen console withouth a disc drive.
Title: Re: Would you buy a next gen console without a disc drive?
Post by: pzeke on March 08, 2019, 04:37:18 pm
I understand where you're coming from, but whether the Switch has a disc drive or not, it still supports physical releases. Although I reckon OP didn't title the topic the best way possible, I'd venture to guess that's what he meant with it: if you would support a console that doesn't rely/support physical media.

I personally want a Switch, more so now that Pokémon Sword & Shield were announced; but I can with utmost sincerity tell you that I will not support a new console without a disc drive or anything that supports physical media, whether it's made by Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo. I've plenty of games in my backlog, so I'll take that as my cue to go through it.
Title: Re: Would you buy a next gen console without a disc drive?
Post by: Warmsignal on March 08, 2019, 05:38:41 pm
No. Why would you buy that? Just buy a Walmart special gaming computer, and go on Steam. Don't buy a $400 hunk of plastic that can't do anything particularly well, and that's including the performance of modern gaming, just so you can download stuff to play and with little to no interesting exlusive content. It's making less and less sense nowdays to ignore how cheap and readily available competent gaming PCs are, and they are a much better product and value than a game console.

When consoles are designed as online only machines, is the day that I hope Steam stomps them right out of business. No one needs a glorified set-top box to play the same shit that PC has better versions of. The only edge modern consoles have right now is physical media, and re-sellability. Nintendo has moderately interesting exclusives, but they'd do better to bow out and go on Steam as a software publisher only because they'll never again design a piece of hardware that's worth a damn technically speaking, no matter how novel and unique it is.
Title: Re: Would you buy a next gen console without a disc drive?
Post by: oldgamerz on March 08, 2019, 07:13:35 pm
No. Why would you buy that? Just buy a Walmart special gaming computer, and go on Steam. Don't buy a $400 hunk of plastic that can't do anything particularly well, and that's including the performance of modern gaming, just so you can download stuff to play and with little to no interesting exlusive content. It's making less and less sense nowdays to ignore how cheap and readily available competent gaming PCs are, and they are a much better product and value than a game console.

When consoles are designed as online only machines, is the day that I hope Steam stomps them right out of business. No one needs a glorified set-top box to play the same shit that PC has better versions of. The only edge modern consoles have right now is physical media, and re-sellability. Nintendo has moderately interesting exclusives, but they'd do better to bow out and go on Steam as a software publisher only because they'll never again design a piece of hardware that's worth a damn technically speaking, no matter how novel and unique it is.

I agree with @Warmsignal  newer Consoles are starting to get crappy and a waste of money, a Good PC is all you really need and if I mean good maybe a PC for $200 or more, or posibbly even less than that even
Title: Re: Would you buy a next gen console without a disc drive?
Post by: Warmsignal on March 08, 2019, 07:35:17 pm
No. Why would you buy that? Just buy a Walmart special gaming computer, and go on Steam. Don't buy a $400 hunk of plastic that can't do anything particularly well, and that's including the performance of modern gaming, just so you can download stuff to play and with little to no interesting exlusive content. It's making less and less sense nowdays to ignore how cheap and readily available competent gaming PCs are, and they are a much better product and value than a game console.

When consoles are designed as online only machines, is the day that I hope Steam stomps them right out of business. No one needs a glorified set-top box to play the same shit that PC has better versions of. The only edge modern consoles have right now is physical media, and re-sellability. Nintendo has moderately interesting exclusives, but they'd do better to bow out and go on Steam as a software publisher only because they'll never again design a piece of hardware that's worth a damn technically speaking, no matter how novel and unique it is.

I agree with @Warmsignal  newer Consoles are starting to get crappy and a waste of money, a Good PC is all you really need and if I mean good maybe a PC for $200 or more, or posibbly even less than that even

I'm talking about something like this - https://www.walmart.com/ip/iBUYPOWER-WA563GT2-Gaming-Desktop-PC-With-AMD-FX-6300-GT1030-2GB-1TB-HDD-8GB-DDR3-and-Window-10-Home-Monitor-Not-Included/164694268

Instead of spending $400 - $500 on a "new console" with already outdated hardware and no optical or media drives of any sort or way to install one, buy a PC like that, pair it with your HDTV and game away. Plus the added benefit of it being a PC capable of many things, with Windows 10. Windows 10 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any device that runs a crappy Google-based proprietary OS.
Title: Re: Would you buy a next gen console without a disc drive?
Post by: bikingjahuty on March 08, 2019, 10:55:03 pm
I still think we are another generation from discless, fully digital consoles, meaning next gen will be the last generation to embrace physical media. With that said I can see them encouraging digital sales and distribution, maybe with some incentive behind it in order to get people warmed up to the idea before completely jumping ship into digital.


With that said, there's a chance I may still game on consoles, but depending on what the exclusives landscape looks like I may essentially become a PC gamer only once this transition is complete. And even then I doubt I'll ever buy a digital release for over $30, meaning a lot of new titles will be put on the backburner until they've dropped in price quite a bit.


Too be honest though, once modern gaming goes 100% digital, I'll probably end up just playing retro games only for the remainder of my days. I've never been a fan of digital distribution for movies, music, and certainly not games either. I know it is more efficient, more environmental, but the complete lack of ownership is what doesn't sit right with me. i'm okay sacrificing ownership if the game I'm buying is only $5, but it becomes harder and harder to justify it the more expensive a digital title is. Luckily I have more games than I could ever hope to play in my lifetime and it sounds like they'll be put to good use the longer time goes by.
Title: Re: Would you buy a next gen console without a disc drive?
Post by: hoshichiri on March 10, 2019, 11:20:18 am
Seether along with pretty much everyone else who reacted on this topic are lying pretty hard

I can't remember a switch having a disc drive or using discs period and pretty much everyone bought one. So i guess people can live withouth them discs in the next generation.

(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/ae/f5/03/aef50301d056b522f7d092eb9dbfcc25.jpg)

Ok, fair enough then. Take my original reply and swap 'disc drive' for 'physical media'.