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VGCollect Site Stuff => Video Game Database Discussion => Topic started by: wowgek7 on March 03, 2026, 05:06:44 pm
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recently I amde an mostly if not complete list of all EU nintendo NFR cards I am considering adding them all to the site. however since there is a lot of overlap with us ones which have the exact same name how should I do it?
The us download stations are all listed but none of the 9 eu ones. I could add them as the same name but that might be not ideal.
also if I am gonna do this should I add the 3ds ones to the ds list as wlel since the 3ds doesnt have an demo section?
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If you're wanting to submit new Nintendo DS demo entries, submit them to Nintendo DS Demo (https://vgcollect.com/browse/dsdemo). If you're wanting to submit new Nintendo 3DS demo entries, submit them to Nintendo 3DS Demo (https://vgcollect.com/browse/3dsdemo). Both platforms have their own dedicated Demo sections.
Since the items you're wanting to add do share the exact name as existing entries, it will be necessary to attach a TLD to entry names. There are other entries in both categories which demonstrate how to do this such as 47095 (https://vgcollect.com/item/47095) and 148729 (https://vgcollect.com/item/148729).
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yeah 3ds demo section does excist I looked at the wrong spot thats on me
but what is an TLD I never ehard of that before. I was planning to add the name obliusly and the unique code
like this
Download station vol 1
NTR-A7AP-EUR
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but what is an TLD I never ehard of that before. I was planning to add the name obliusly and the unique code
See the follow rules regarding TLDs:
Games released in multiple countries within the same region/category: No two items within a category should have the same item name. For categories that reflect continents such as North/South America or Europe or general categories such as Hardware or Accesories, etc, the item title may use a suffix to indicate which country/countries an item was released in. Brackets [ ] are used to enclose this information, and for each country we use the appropriate TLD (Top Level Domain) Identifier. Our list of common TLDs are located here: https://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,7009.0.html
The TLD is not to be used to represent which languages are printed on an item.
Examples: 18 Wheeler: American Pro Trucker has five regional releases within Europe on the PS2.
- Released in England or general English EU release does not require a TLD: 18 Wheeler: American Pro Trucker
- Released in Germany: 18 Wheeler: American Pro Trucker [DE]
- Released in Spain: 18 Wheeler: American Pro Trucker [ES]
- Released in France and Netherlands: 18 Wheeler: American Pro Trucker [FR][NL]
- Released in Italy: 18 Wheeler: American Pro Trucker [IT]
TLDs
The TLD is short for Top Level Domain and is a list of country abbreviations maintained by IANA. We use TLD for release countries because they are easily identifyable. Remember that the TLD is to represent which countries an item was SOLD in, not which languages are on the packaging.
So as previously suggested, refer to entries 47095 and 148729 as examples that are within the Nintendo DS Demo.
like this
Download station vol 1
NTR-A7AP-EUR
Just to clarify, the item you're referring to is named DS Download Station Volume 1, as seen here (https://i.postimg.cc/hvk5jsKR/1.jpg).
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correct I was using the first one from my list as an example.
but it doesnt mather anymore.
I have zero clue about TLD's you explained the function which I get but I have no idea how to spot them etc.
so frankly I am just not gonna bother with it its getting too complicated for me also i doubt these demos even have that number since with the acception of 2 they where suposed to be returned to nntendo to destroy
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The TLD is something we use to indicate what country or region an item is released in. It is used when there are multiple items in a category that have the same name, we add a TLD to make it so they have different names. If you do not know what TLD to use or if you should use one, you can just ask.
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just the ds has almost 60 eu cards 3ds has less but still a bunch.
and honeslty I am not gonna ask for 80 90 cards what I should use.
so its fine it was a nice idea and I want to get the information out since it wasnt easy to compile but if I dont know how I obliusly cnat do it.
if you find someone who gets it and wants to do it I have no problem sending that perosn the ds and 3ds lists i amde
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maybe do like (EU) and (US) at the end of the name? not perfect but at least ppl know what they're looking at
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maybe do like (EU) and (US) at the end of the name? not perfect but at least ppl know what they're looking at
I would love to do it like that but sadly thats not accoridng to the rules here so I cnat
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In a category like Demos, you can do it as
[US] and [EU]
but not
(US) and (EU)
but only to differntiate two entries.
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In a category like Demos, you can do it as
[US] and [EU]
Because the rule concerning TLDs specifically states that the attached TLDs should represent which country an item was sold in, using [EU] in any scenario removed from the actual category name is incorrect as the European Union is not one singular country. Like with the first examples I provided in this topic, any EU item requiring a TLD in a region-agnostic category should instead be supplied with a country-specific TLD such as [UK]. As always, we should confirm where exactly an item was sold in and not presume that information.
Unfortunately, this rule seems to have not been historically enforced or understood, which has led to the issue of the [EU] and [NA] TLD tags dominating Name fields.
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which makes no sense since asside form some layton demos in the eu its IMPOSSIBLE to find out the og country the same cards where used for the entirety of europe.
also these items where never sold heck they werent even supposed to be OWNED by collectors they where suposed to be destroyed
anywya it doesnt mather anyway sincce no one seems to want to add them and for me its impossible.
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which makes no sense since asside form some layton demos in the eu its IMPOSSIBLE to find out the og country the same cards where used for the entirety of europe.
also these items where never sold heck they werent even supposed to be OWNED by collectors they where suposed to be destroyed
anywya it doesnt mather anyway sincce no one seems to want to add them and for me its impossible.
Almost certainly, these items were released in numerous countries. There is no need to identify them all at once, though; over time, additional TLDs can be added as more information is learned.
Because the rule concerning TLDs specifically states that the attached TLDs should represent which country an item was sold in released, using [EU] in any scenario removed from the actual category name is incorrect as the European Union is not one singular country.
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which makes no sense since asside form some layton demos in the eu its IMPOSSIBLE to find out the og country the same cards where used for the entirety of europe.
also these items where never sold heck they werent even supposed to be OWNED by collectors they where suposed to be destroyed
anywya it doesnt mather anyway sincce no one seems to want to add them and for me its impossible.
Almost certainly, these items were released in numerous countries. There is no need to identify them all at once, though; over time, additional TLDs can be added as more information is learned.
Because the rule concerning TLDs specifically states that the attached TLDs should represent which country an item was sold in released, using [EU] in any scenario removed from the actual category name is incorrect as the European Union is not one singular country.
do I speak spanish??
I said those same demos where released in all eu countries so if I take the nintendogs demo for example that cartride is the same for spain germany the netherlands italian etc its the exact same cardtridge even rom dumps dont show any difference and you want me or anyone else to find out what the og country is. heck I doubt even nintendo themself could do that at this point.
so asking anyone to do that is just plain stupid I have spent I dont know how many hours looking into these things yet eaperently you know more then i do which is fine if you think that bu why arent you doing it then?
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I said those same demos where released in all eu countries so if I take the nintendogs demo for example that cartride is the same for spain germany the netherlands italian etc its the exact same cardtridge even rom dumps dont show any difference and you want me or anyone else to find out what the og country is. heck I doubt even nintendo themself could do that at this point.
so asking anyone to do that is just plain stupid I have spent I dont know how many hours looking into these things yet eaperently you know more then i do which is fine if you think that bu why arent you doing it then?
If you know which countries these specific items were released as you're now claiming, then you have the information necessary to correctly submit new entries for these items. Like I said in my previous post, there is no need to attach all TLD information to the Name field at once, though. You can add the TLD information you've confirmed right now, and if it's later learned that an item was released in other countries too, then additional TLDs can be attached to the entry name.
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like I explained before I dont understand TLDS asside from that it ahs to do with countris or languages eaperently. also i dont realy care at this point I wnated to add this information so its out there but if I ened to be almost an rocket scientist to be able to do so I am not gonna bother. like I said I am willing to send anyone the documents I made so he or she can do it but no one aksed me for it so I gues there is no one.
and no there is no way to know if the nintendogs demo was used in an kiosk ever in every posible country most likely yes or in most at elast but in all of them? impossible to find out at this point
your literrly asking for verry specific information that is IMPOSSIBLE to get all we know about thsoe demos is that they where used in kiosks in eu countries was nintednogs in an kiosk in polland for example? maybe but no way to find out.
al we know is that these demos where used in kiosks in europe if every game was available in every country we dont know nor will ever know.
the only ones I can confirm for the netehrlands is pilotwings resort and mariokart 7 since I played those myself back then in an store.
anywya this conversation is going nowehere so I am gonna leave it at this just like with the neptunioia debackle
besides its oblius there is some kind of witchhunt by lack of an betetr term agaianst me by some people so I probatly shouldnt haven even bothered but oh well I am gonna go back to using just the database part of the site
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If you're unable to understand the instruction provided, then I agree that it's best if you don't attempt to submit new entries—even if the information is known and entries could be made for at least some if the items, or perhaps all of them if the right research was done. You're over-complicating a rather simple issue.
Maybe someone else will revisit this topic someday and put in the effort to submit entries for these items.
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now YOU are overcomplicating it. like everything pretty much
and no that information isnt know for ANY of them the only 2 I know are just ebcause I remember them asside from my word there is no proof its even true
this could have been solved so many way easier ways like just split the demos to us and eu yu know just like with the games.
but nop[e we are supsoed to use an extremely complicated system. heck I am pretyt sure that 99% of the people who use vgcolelct have no clue what it is.
and I highly doubt this is gonna get revisited later this is an niche of an niche after all getting al this information took like forever so gl finding someone willing to dive into this knowing and using this site etc.
also its funny about instructions you never gave any asside from be sure to use them
anywya gues you got 1 more reply from me after all but trust me this will be my last one here no mather what you say
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your literrly asking for verry specific information that is IMPOSSIBLE to get all we know about thsoe demos is that they where used in kiosks in eu countries was nintednogs in an kiosk in polland for example? maybe but no way to find out.
We put information in that is confirmed. If we don't know, or it can't be proven, then we leave that out. We can always add information later, and it is best to not presume information in the case we are wrong.
Real world example:
Mario Tennis Open demo being sold in Spain has a cart item number of LNZ-CTR-AGAP-EUR and a back number of AGAP52041B
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/317211178810
Mario Tennis Open demo being sold in England has a cart item number of LNZ-CTR-AGAP-EUR and a back number of AGAP52041B (the same)
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266708249037
Can we presume that the cart sold in England is from England and the cart sold in Spain is from Spain? Yes
Can we prove that? No
Can we presume that all carts in EU have the same 2 numbers? Yes
Can we prove that carts from other countries in EU have the same 2 numbers? No
So we put the information that we know for sure. We know this cart with these 2 numbers are from Europe.
The item number is the number from the cart label like usual. Put the back number in description.