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Title: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: thecollector0o7 on November 05, 2012, 07:40:21 pm
I just Pre-ordered my NeoGeoX Gold today and I'm pretty excited. Anyone else getting it?
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: gecko101 on November 05, 2012, 07:46:04 pm
I'm getting it, really excited about it  ;D. People say it is a rip off, and I know it really is, but I just cant help myself, its also really a collectors item and the best thing about it. is that it comes with an authentic joystick. The one thing I'm really worried about is how the SD cards are packaged. Its going to be really annoying to collect for if all the games come in paper slides like regular SD cards. Then I may just buy two of each game.
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: jobocan on November 05, 2012, 07:49:07 pm
I was thinking about it, but at the same time I figure that I don't really need it since I already have a Neo Geo MVS arcade cabinet... Not sure it's a good idea to get it :P

I don't think it's a rip-off or anything (I mean, it has a better launch library than the Vita for a much lower price :P), but for me it's the whole "why would I get it?" thing :P
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: thecollector0o7 on November 05, 2012, 07:50:41 pm
thats true I never thought of that. I will probably do the same. I dont know I could never afford a real Neo Geo unless I get the CD >_> but lmao its nice that finally another game company is coming up to bat with the big boys. Im excited to see how well it plays out hopefully not in the path of the Vita >_>
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: thecollector0o7 on November 05, 2012, 07:51:38 pm
I was thinking about it, but at the same time I figure that I don't really need it since I already have a Neo Geo MVS arcade cabinet... Not sure it's a good idea to get it :P

I don't think it's a rip-off or anything (I mean, it has a better launch library than the Vita for a much lower price :P), but for me it's the whole "why would I get it?" thing :P


being a console collector it was a happy day for me when I saw it and I had no option but to go order it :P
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: jobocan on November 05, 2012, 07:56:34 pm
A trust me I'm still tempted to get it, that case is just so cool (and it's HDMI compatible!)... but I kinda doubt I'll ever use the thing since I can play all of these on my MVS multicart (and eventually-expanding MVS collection).
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: thecollector0o7 on November 05, 2012, 08:02:17 pm
I build Mame Arcades and have most of the games on them and don't get me wrong I love putting a quarter in the machine and playing some awesome historic games but sometimes I just like to sit on the couch and play these games because yes I am to lazy to stand and game :P so I personally see myself using this alot and getting a secondary controller for the wife
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: kingrat101 on November 06, 2012, 02:59:18 am
Me personally I have no interest in it, the only thing I really like about it is the HD, that will be really nice. But Im too much of an authentic type of person I guess, because I love having the real original piece of hardware. Also, nothing will ever beat the giant cartridges haha.
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: zenimus on November 07, 2012, 09:48:54 pm
I used to have an AES, but sold everything off to pay for my wedding last year. :D I've since switched to a consolized MVS.

Considering everything it comes with, I think the Neo Geo X is a great deal.
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: brettybluevein on November 09, 2012, 12:54:31 am
I just ordered mine! I can't wait!!!
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: gecko101 on December 06, 2012, 12:05:49 am
Can we get this put in the database? I don't know how to add a platform. Also to add to this thread, my order has been pushed back to the 21st. In fact, the whole release date had been moved to the 18th if I'm correct.
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: thecollector0o7 on December 06, 2012, 12:02:15 pm
you are correct it got pushed back to the 18th and according to ebgames that is when I am getting mine is on the 18th but I live in Canada im not sure if your in the States or if that even makes a diffrence. But the release date is the 18th.
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: burningdoom on December 18, 2012, 11:35:05 pm
It looks very nice, and I'd like to have one. But not for that price. It's faaaarrrrr too overpriced for what you get. They really should have pre-programmed it with more games. There are disc-released game compilations that have more games. And the games they give you are already mostly available to you on the SNK Arcade Classics compilation for PS2 & Wii.

There is the promise of new games being released for it, but I highly doubt game developers are gonna invest in a system that probably won't sell well due to poor marketing. If you were EA or Activision or whoever and you could release a game on the 3DS which has sold millions of units vs. the Neo Geo X which will sells thousands of systems in comparison; which would you release your game on? If I'm wrong, then great. I'd love to see a Neo Geo revival, I just don't see it in the cards.

Between the SNK Arcade Classics Collection, Metal Slug Anthology, and the Samurai Shodown Anthology I can have a much larger Neo Geo Collection for much cheaper without even having to own a Neo Geo X. And for just a little more money than what the Neo Geo X costs, I could just get a real Neo Geo AES or Neo Geo CD.
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: kimimi on December 19, 2012, 01:50:46 am
Between the SNK Arcade Classics Collection, Metal Slug Anthology, and the Samurai Shodown Anthology I can have a much larger Neo Geo Collection for much cheaper without even having to own a Neo Geo X. And for just a little more money than what the Neo Geo X costs, I could just get a real Neo Geo AES or Neo Geo CD.

This is what I don't understand about it - the Neo Geo X is just ROMs+emulator with some fancy peripherals, and so far I've not seen any indication that the emulation is above the level seen on MAME/whatever PSP emulator people use or even the iOS ports.

If you want competently emulated Neo Geo games there are already a lot of good legal options out there, and as Burningdoom said for the price of this unit the real hardware isn't much more of a leap.
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: brettybluevein on December 19, 2012, 01:14:42 pm
ATTN Scott or Matt.....

Can we get "Neo Geo X Accessory" added as a category, I also bought the additional arcade stick for my system.

Thank you sirs!
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: scott on December 19, 2012, 02:01:01 pm
Oh, yep. I'll knock that out right now, since I'm slow at work at the moment.
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: scott on December 19, 2012, 02:28:40 pm
And added!
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: vancha on December 19, 2012, 03:07:48 pm
Hmm, I'm wondering, is the Neo Geo X Gold also available in Europe? Haven't really followed it really but now thzt its here i'm quite interested aswell...
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: brettybluevein on December 19, 2012, 03:18:01 pm
And added!

You're the man, thank you!
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: theflea on December 21, 2012, 02:38:12 am
Just got mine last Monday and it's really a cool little system. I love the charging station looks like a classic AES (just smaller) great case to protect and display your X gold in, and you can even hook it up to a TV.

I hope there's support for this system with new game cards of the classic Neo Geo games (just keep em under $20) or bundle a bunch of games (metal slug 2, X, 3, 4, 5) and other classic arcade games that where never released on any Neo Geo system before. Would love to see some 3rd party support.

Kinda wish the controller it came with had the same hook ups as the classic AES so a 2nd player can use one of my other Neo Geo controllers.

Overall It's a must own to anyone who's a Neo Geo fan.
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: brettybluevein on December 21, 2012, 02:44:20 am
Just got mine last Monday and it's really a cool little system. I love the charging station looks like a classic AES (just smaller) great case to protect and display your X gold in, and you can even hook it up to a TV.

I hope there's support for this system with new game cards of the classic Neo Geo games (just keep em under $20) or bundle a bunch of games (metal slug 2, X, 3, 4, 5) and other classic arcade games that where never released on any Neo Geo system before. Would love to see some 3rd party support.

Kinda wish the controller it came with had the same hook ups as the classic AES so a 2nd player can use one of my other Neo Geo controllers.

Overall It's a must own to anyone who's a Neo Geo fan.

I agree wholeheartedly with everything you said here. This is going to save me a ton on AES carts though.
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: theflea on December 21, 2012, 04:31:35 am
oh forgot to mention a couple little complaints about the Neo Geo X Gold.
The games are censored.
You can only play the US version of the games, so Metal Slug and fighting games like Samurai Shodown 2 have no blood. If anyone finds a secret code to play the uncensored games please post it.

Another thing that's a let down is no save feature of any kind, so your high scores, or hoping you can save a game in anyway is not possible. :( 
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: kimimi on December 21, 2012, 04:48:49 am
Do the games play in AES mode or MVS mode? Good luck finishing some of those in four credits  :o

Ooh something else I was wondering - how is the emulation itself? Reasonably accurate? Extremely accurate? Ho do the games look on the handheld screen?

Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: darko on December 21, 2012, 12:49:10 pm
I'm really on the fence with this thing. One one hand, it's pretty nifty for sure. On the other hand, it's just emulating the hardware...so why not just emulate it on a PC? I mean, I could order a couple of the USB controllers and play it on my HDTV just as easily as with the Neo Geo X...and I would still have blood, save features, etc.

It's cool, but I honestly don't see myself picking one up after seeing what it does.
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: theflea on December 23, 2012, 06:23:07 am
The games look great, even when stretched out of its wide screen (it can be in the standard screen mode too)

I thought of this system as just an emulated game system too, thought it was just going to be download games only. But then I saw it played game cards and there's talk of more games being released later. So now this is a portable game system that plays flash cards similar to the N-gage, Gizmondo and the Zodiac. So if those are labeled as Game Systems then the Neo Geo X Gold is one too.   
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: kimimi on December 23, 2012, 11:38:44 am
They aren't game cards, they're literally SD cards. There's a thread over on the neo-geo.com forums where people are looking into the hardware and the software - apparently it's running a version of Final Burn Alpha and the "built-in" games are stored on a micro SD card underneath the battery.
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: thecollector0o7 on December 23, 2012, 01:25:17 pm
They aren't game cards, they're literally SD cards. There's a thread over on the neo-geo.com forums where people are looking into the hardware and the software - apparently it's running a version of Final Burn Alpha and the "built-in" games are stored on a micro SD card underneath the battery.

so in theory could we put games on our own SD cards?
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: kimimi on December 23, 2012, 01:53:40 pm
I believe somebody's already managed it, although it's not a straightforward process yet.
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: darko on December 24, 2012, 10:01:41 am
They aren't game cards, they're literally SD cards. There's a thread over on the neo-geo.com forums where people are looking into the hardware and the software - apparently it's running a version of Final Burn Alpha and the "built-in" games are stored on a micro SD card underneath the battery.

so in theory could we put games on our own SD cards?

I can all but promise you that will happen soon. It's just begging to be hacked.
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: jcalder8 on December 25, 2012, 07:46:36 pm
I like the look of the system but I would just rather use my psp since it does more.
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: ffxik on December 30, 2012, 10:04:53 pm
My friend got one of these.  He and I sat around for better part of a day just fiddling with it.  On a note though I'm going to be downer and say I will never buy one.  I already own an AES and this thing is inferior in pretty much every way.  He's happy though, so I guess that all that counts.  Still this thing just feels cheap.  It doesn't run games near as well as some other emulators out there.  The controllers are kinda flimsy.

I'm sorry for being so negative but, just no.  :(
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: jcalder8 on January 01, 2013, 06:35:29 pm
I'm glad to hear the good and the bad, thanks ffxik
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: ffxik on January 01, 2013, 07:41:51 pm
I would like to say that my issues are more with the TV connection rather than the handheld.  I also forgot to mention the latency concerning the wireless controllers.  There seems to be quite a bit of lag between button press and action on screen.  Which kinda killed me since a lot of the games included are twitch based games.
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: brettybluevein on January 01, 2013, 08:36:57 pm
I would like to say that my issues are more with the TV connection rather than the handheld.  I also forgot to mention the latency concerning the wireless controllers.  There seems to be quite a bit of lag between button press and action on screen.  Which kinda killed me since a lot of the games included are twitch based games.

What wireless controllers are you talking about? They are wired...
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: kimimi on January 02, 2013, 12:18:37 am
I think I (and a lot of other people) wouldn't be so hard on the system/emulation if they weren't charging £175 for something that emulates with the accuracy of the £35 Mega Drive handhelds on the same page - http://www.funstock.co.uk/retro-gaming

Heck, for £45 you can get a new Mega Drive with 20 built in games and two wireless controllers and ports that accept original controllers and it also runs original carts too! The Neo Geo is just an old console that generally used common parts and hadsome of the simplest controller wiring ever - the real expense was in the cost of the carts, the thing is that today we live in an age where anyone can buy an 8GB SD card for less than £5. There's just no reason for the Neo Geo X to cost as much as it does. Just for comparison (if anyone feels I'm being unfair comparing it to those MD handhelds) the Dingoo and Cannoo both cost less than £100 shipped.
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: ffxik on January 02, 2013, 03:20:54 am
I would like to say that my issues are more with the TV connection rather than the handheld.  I also forgot to mention the latency concerning the wireless controllers.  There seems to be quite a bit of lag between button press and action on screen.  Which kinda killed me since a lot of the games included are twitch based games.

What wireless controllers are you talking about? They are wired...

LOL.  Holy crap I didn't realize put wireless in there.  It was supposed to say "wired".    DOH!  :-[

Proofreading....fail.

Still though lag in a wired controller should be a non-issue.  After thinking it over I believe it probably has to do with the controller>base>handheld connection that is going on.  I didn't really notice any lag on the portable itself.  That's just me though I may be way off on that.
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: turf on April 02, 2013, 08:43:18 pm
Answer me a question folks. I have a Neogeo X Gold coming. Im pumped on that alone.
Now, should I go ahead and get a couple of the game cards or should I wait and hope for a price drop?
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: sin2beta on April 02, 2013, 09:32:05 pm
Answer me a question folks. I have a Neogeo X Gold coming. Im pumped on that alone.
Now, should I go ahead and get a couple of the game cards or should I wait and hope for a price drop?

Does it have more than the one game card yet? If you have the Gold, I think you now have the complete set.
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: turf on April 02, 2013, 09:43:42 pm
April 25th there are going to be 5 "collections" come out. Each has 3 games included.
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: alecthecollector0o7 on April 02, 2013, 10:28:44 pm
do you have the link to where you found that ive been looking all over :P
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: turf on April 02, 2013, 11:28:20 pm
I found it on Amazon. Here's the link:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Neogeo+x+classics (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Neogeo+x+classics)
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: scott on April 02, 2013, 11:31:06 pm
I still kinda want one of these. Even though some of the folks here seemed turned off by it.
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: turf on April 02, 2013, 11:42:47 pm
That's how I was. I wanted one, but had heard mixed reviews. Best Buy put it on sale the other day and I had some gift cards, so I pulled the trigger. I'm ready for it to be here. Too bad I don't know dick about a Neogeo. Other than Metal Slug, I don't know which games I need to look out for.
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: sin2beta on April 02, 2013, 11:51:10 pm
I honestly kind of want one. I just don't need another system. Even if everything is packed in with it. If I expanded my collection, it would be to Neo Geo. The Neo Geo X Gold is probably the best introduction to Neo Geo you can ask for... at least at a reasonable price.
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: alecthecollector0o7 on April 02, 2013, 11:58:09 pm
Its really good I much prefer to play on my arcade but when you want to play sitting down or on the go its amazing. And if your just getting in to Neo Geo its a great alt to spending hundreds on the real thing.
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: alecthecollector0o7 on April 02, 2013, 11:58:41 pm
I found it on Amazon. Here's the link:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Neogeo+x+classics (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Neogeo+x+classics)


Thanks for the link!
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: kimimi on April 03, 2013, 12:49:20 am
I still kinda want one of these. Even though some of the folks here seemed turned off by it.

I already said why I dislike it further up this page so I'll just sum up here - they're ripping people off and hoping people don't notice "because Neo Geo". The product has little concern for accuracy or authenticity and for the $180 Amazon are currently asking for the starter pack I could buy a *real* MVS ($50), Samurai Spirits 2 ($20) and a supergun (about $50 for a Vogatek) to play it on my TV.
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: alecthecollector0o7 on April 03, 2013, 11:18:39 am
You do get 20 games built in though and a Neo Geo AES on ebay the cheapest I can find is around 300 with shipping and no games so for 200 with tax you get a handheld a console and a controller with 20 built in games. If you look at it as a sampler its not that bad to introduce a gamer to the neo geo company. Yes in a sense if you already own a Neo Geo Aes and you dont collect systems it seems like a rip off but to start off in to the system it gives you a pretty good idea of what your getting yourself into.
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: insektmute on April 03, 2013, 12:33:09 pm
The only people interested in Neo-Geo at this point are people already familiar with it, and for anyone looking for a way to 'sample' that stuff, there are tons of games available on MAME, PSN, XBLA, and a ton of other places.

As kimimi pointed out, you can buy an MVS (the AES is different) for dirt cheap these days and be up and running with real arcade hardware under $200.
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: scott on April 03, 2013, 01:55:59 pm
When you're saying buy an MVS, do you mean the hardware alone? A complete cab? Or a consolized single slot MVS?

Last I checked running cabs ain't cheap. And if you're buying the hardware alone, then you've got to spend the money either building a cab for it or consolizing it yourself. Unless its a pre-consolized single slot MVS, I don't see how you can get away in the $200 range.
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: kimimi on April 03, 2013, 02:04:48 pm
The hardware alone.

To answer your comments:

A Neo Geo cab is just a TV and an MVS in a box, running it takes as much electricity as running a Mega Drive/SNES/N64 or any other console you care to mention.

If you buy the hardware alone you buy a supergun $50 (as I mentioned before) and use this to plug in two Neo Geo controllers, a scart or s-video cable and a standard PC power supply and play arcade games on your living room TV. This is what I do. Supergun "installation" involves plugging it onto the jamma edge and... that's it! :)


Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: scott on April 03, 2013, 04:44:11 pm
I follow you now.
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: kimimi on April 04, 2013, 12:25:02 am
Once you get past the "OMG arcade games!" phase and start using them you find that on the whole most arcade hardware works just like funny-shaped consoles - plug game in, connect power/AV/controllers - play!

Which brings me back to my earlier point - people pay a lot for Neo Geo "because Neo Geo", but the fact is that its not some magic box of tricks. The processor and co-processor are the Motorola 68000 and the Zilog Z80 - two extremely common chips that are also in every Mega Drive. The sound is handled by a Yamaha chip. Apart from the elitism exhibited by some owners and the price (which is directly effected by that elitism - Japanese AES cart prices are significantly cheaper across the board) it's just an old console like any other from the era.
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: darko on April 04, 2013, 01:50:21 am
I'm not promoting anything here...especially since I don't currently own the system, but you guys do realize that there's already a hack for it if you want to run games that aren't available?. Just sayin'.
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: kimimi on April 04, 2013, 02:05:52 am
Of course. But if you're going to download illegal ROMs why wouldn't you do it on a more accurate and feature-rich emulator that doesn't cost $200 to buy?
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: xxunixx on April 04, 2013, 09:11:22 pm
Just got mine today! Going to open the box up and get this bad dog working soon. Wondering how difficult it will be to get a second stick... 
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: redblaze57 on April 04, 2013, 09:17:02 pm
I'm not promoting anything here...especially since I don't currently own the system, but you guys do realize that there's already a hack for it if you want to run games that aren't available?. Just sayin'.
if I'm not mistaking the anti-piracy protection was to glue down the Mirco SD card
Title: Re: Neo Geo X Gold
Post by: ffxik on April 07, 2013, 12:54:29 am
My friend has had a devil of a time trying to get another one of those USB sticks.  Actually I think he is looking to sell his system if he hasn't already.   
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