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Title: Franchises that need a reboot
Post by: jcalder8 on February 28, 2013, 10:45:26 pm
They have started to do this for some games like Devil May Cry but here are some others that I wish they would reboot:

Resident Evil - stop trying to explain what is going on and just get back to zombies and scares!
Silent Hill! - Do I really need to give an explanation!
Final Fantasy - I don't care what it looks like just give me an engaging story, lots of characters and an open world. Is that really too much to ask from an RPG?

What are some others?
Title: Re: Franchies that need a reboot
Post by: darko on February 28, 2013, 10:54:04 pm
StarFox
Zelda (Yes, I've been bored since Windwaker)
Chrono Trigger
The Gaia Series
Title: Re: Franchies that need a reboot
Post by: pacpix on February 28, 2013, 11:18:16 pm
Q*Bert- With his recent role in Wreck it Ralph now is the time to bring him back.  I want new games, toys, and reboot the TV show!  It's about @!#?@! time for Q*Bert to return!

Edit: I want a breakfast cereal too!
Title: Re: Franchies that need a reboot
Post by: sin2beta on February 28, 2013, 11:22:52 pm
Although, it probably won't be good. Sonic REALLY needs a reboot... Actually SEGA needs a reboot. Let's give SEGA a reboot.
Title: Re: Franchies that need a reboot
Post by: jcalder8 on February 28, 2013, 11:24:45 pm
Although, it probably won't be good. Sonic REALLY needs a reboot... Actually SEGA needs a reboot. Let's give SEGA a reboot.
Very true!
Title: Re: Franchies that need a reboot
Post by: scott on February 28, 2013, 11:37:02 pm
The Mana series
The SaGa series
Shining Force
Title: Re: Franchies that need a reboot
Post by: scott on February 28, 2013, 11:37:39 pm
And Onimusha
Title: Re: Franchies that need a reboot
Post by: pacpix on February 28, 2013, 11:48:57 pm
Although, it probably won't be good. Sonic REALLY needs a reboot... Actually SEGA needs a reboot. Let's give SEGA a reboot.

Sonic already got a reboot and it was fantastic! :D
(http://image.gamespotcdn.net/gamespot/images/box/7/1/7/929717_69768_front.jpg)
Title: Re: Franchies that need a reboot
Post by: sin2beta on March 01, 2013, 12:14:57 am
Although, it probably won't be good. Sonic REALLY needs a reboot... Actually SEGA needs a reboot. Let's give SEGA a reboot.

Sonic already got a reboot and it was fantastic! :D

That reboot is the reason why they need a reboot. Although the sonic 2006 reboot seems to be questionably retconned and rebooted itself. So, maybe we need a reboot for the reboot which was a reboot of the original reboot which separated the series into two timelines and ... I give up. 
Title: Re: Franchies that need a reboot
Post by: pacpix on March 01, 2013, 12:21:57 am
 :o
Title: Re: Franchies that need a reboot
Post by: kingrat101 on March 01, 2013, 12:33:11 am
Capcom Vs SNK, I would love to see a new game especially since Capcom VS SNK 2 is one of my favorite fighting games ever, but I do feel they could totally do something more with it as long as Capcom doesn't try to make SNK characters 3d puppet looking like they did with Street Fighter 4
Title: Re: Franchies that need a reboot
Post by: jobocan on March 01, 2013, 08:03:05 am
Well I'd like them to un-reboot DMC for one... that was just terrible... oh and un-reboot Castlevania, this Lords of Shadow thing really isn't doing it.

I can't really think of anything I'd really want to see rebooted specifically. There are series I want to see new games for and I guess a reboot could work. Like StarTropics. But in general I think just sequels and spin-offs can do the job just as well.
Title: Re: Franchises that need a reboot
Post by: turf on March 01, 2013, 10:08:47 am
Metroid

Yeah I said it.  We need to ditch this first person noise and go back to 2D goodness.  Or, this may just me being old.

Next, we need to get a sequel to a great, over-looked Xbox game; Psi-Ops: The Mindgate Conspiracy.  The ending left it open for another one, but it just never happened.  If you haven't tried it, check it out. 

Then we need to get on these left for dead properties:

Blaster Master
Metal Storm
Battletoads
Super Dodgeball
Title: Re: Franchies that need a reboot
Post by: matt on March 01, 2013, 11:28:37 am
Although, it probably won't be good. Sonic REALLY needs a reboot... Actually SEGA needs a reboot. Let's give SEGA a reboot.

Man I would love Sega to reboot some of their classic franchises. I'd kill for a new Wonder Boy or Alex Kid game. Alex Kid would have made for an amazing plat former. The problem being that I just don't trust them to do it nowadays. :(
Title: Re: Franchises that need a reboot
Post by: insektmute on March 01, 2013, 12:02:26 pm
Echoing jcalder8 a bit, but...

Castlevania - Sign me up for a series of 2D side-scrollers in 1080p60 kthx. Every 3D Castlevania I've played feels absolutely soulless.
Final Fantasy - I crave more mature storylines, believeable characters, and pithy dialog. Work off VI, VII, IX, and XII for inspiration, ditch Nomura, and keep the development team small, focused, and collaborative.
King of Fighters - Falcoon's artistic legacy lingers way too strongly for my tastes. Ditch all this Ash Crimson crap.
Metal Slug - I'd love to see something more along the lines of Contra: Shattered Soldier or Moon Diver.
Metroid - Controversial choice maybe, but I crave the classic mechanics and atmosphere on a console.
Resident Evil - It's really not that hard to evoke the classic feel while still creating something fresh and interesting, provided the developers understand what made it work to begin with. I liked RE6, but outside of Leon's campaign, it might as well have been a different series.

I've tried to avoid going into series I want to see simply revived, but insert obligatory mention of Shadow Hearts and Legend of Dragoon here.
Title: Re: Franchises that need a reboot
Post by: xxunixx on March 01, 2013, 12:32:16 pm
I would have to say Road Rash. Rag doll physics, online racing? Sign me up!
Title: Re: Franchises that need a reboot
Post by: jcalder8 on March 01, 2013, 04:13:37 pm
I would have to say Road Rash. Rag doll physics, online racing? Sign me up!
I would love that!
Title: Re: Franchies that need a reboot
Post by: sin2beta on March 01, 2013, 05:01:23 pm
Although, it probably won't be good. Sonic REALLY needs a reboot... Actually SEGA needs a reboot. Let's give SEGA a reboot.

Man I would love Sega to reboot some of their classic franchises. I'd kill for a new Wonder Boy or Alex Kid game. Alex Kid would have made for an amazing plat former. The problem being that I just don't trust them to do it nowadays. :(

I think that last part is the key. I would love to see the return of some franchises. But, ultimately, they are good where they are.

I also, to be honest, like how sega seemed to abandon franchises when switching systems (There's always a tiny bit that bleeds over though).

SMS - Alex Kidd, Wonder Boy
Genesis - Streets of Rage, Golden Axe, ToeJam and Earl (I would argue that Sonic lived primarily in the Genesis days. No real Sonic for Saturn, etc.)
Saturn - Panzer Dragoon, Clockwork Knight, Virtua Fighter/Cop
Dreamcast - Shenmue, Space Channel 5, Jet Set Radio, Crazy Taxi

This causes each system to have its own feel. Part of me likes that Streets of Rage never left Genesis. And part of me hopes it stays like this. It makes collecting for SEGA consoles a treat as each console is not merely the same games updated. Your favorite sega console almost always falls in line with your favorite franchises.

So, ultimately, I am anti-reboot but pro-franchise. Just create new franchises. If you need a reboot, then it is played out. Move on.
Title: Re: Franchises that need a reboot
Post by: foxhack on March 01, 2013, 05:45:38 pm
King of Fighters - Falcoon's artistic legacy lingers way too strongly for my tastes. Ditch all this Ash Crimson crap.
I heard that the ending to XIII... well... did stuff.

Resident Evil doesn't really need a reboot, what it needs is a game that shows how Umbrella GOT TAKEN DOWN.
Title: Re: Franchises that need a reboot
Post by: insektmute on March 01, 2013, 05:55:14 pm
Yeah, the ending of XIII is... I'm not sure what to make of it. It seems like Ash was basically retconned into having never existed, but with SNK, who knows?
Title: Re: Franchies that need a reboot
Post by: insektmute on March 01, 2013, 06:10:26 pm
This causes each system to have its own feel. Part of me likes that Streets of Rage never left Genesis (until the failed sequel). And part of me hopes it stays like this. It makes collecting for SEGA consoles a treat as each console is not merely the same games updated. Your favorite sega console almost always falls in line with your favorite franchises.

This could easily be its own thread, but I think having a unique sense of identity is what really makes a console worthwhile. There's nothing more uninspiring than a system that's defined almost entirely by multi-platform games.

Sega's a much different company these days, and not for the better, but in their prime, their games really set them apart from the rest of the pack.

Title: Re: Franchises that need a reboot
Post by: redblaze57 on March 01, 2013, 06:15:18 pm
this seems more like a "Frachises that need a revival/reboot"
as for Sonic they just need to do what they've done in Generations just without the 3-d to the 2-d mid-stage and just refine that for me.
they need to revive Guilty Gear not this "Blazblue is the new Guilty Gear"  hell I'll even settle for BlazbluXGuilty Gear
and I guess un-Reboot Soul Calibur back to SC3
Title: Re: Franchises that need a reboot
Post by: soera on March 01, 2013, 06:28:36 pm
I think a lot of the NES/SNES basics need a reset. Metroid and Zelda need to go back to their original setting. I would love to see another Blaster master and Bionic commando. Final fantasy could use a nice trip down memory IV-VII lane. Punch out has the potential to be a really great game. Faria could use another installment.
Title: Re: Franchises that need a reboot
Post by: foxhack on March 01, 2013, 06:34:06 pm
Punch out has the potential to be a really great game.
... it had a Wii revival, though.
Title: Re: Franchises that need a reboot
Post by: turf on March 01, 2013, 06:39:08 pm
Punch out has the potential to be a really great game.
... it had a Wii revival, though.
Punch-Out!! On the Wii was awesome. Not a real deep game, but it was fun. 
Title: Re: Franchises that need a reboot
Post by: mkarasch on March 01, 2013, 11:10:41 pm
Hm.  I've got some single games...can those be called franchises?

Blast corps could be awesome with current gen systems...

F-Zero and/or wipeout (although, there was a downloadable recent version of this, right?)

Parasite eve

Baseball Simulator 1000

Syphon filter, although that one might be rose colored glasses...I haven't played it in ages

Zombies ate my neighbors

Actraiser



Title: Re: Franchises that need a reboot
Post by: htimreimer on March 01, 2013, 11:40:01 pm
Zombies ate my neighbors
this could happen sooner than later, now a movie in development (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=30070)

here is my top 5 games to reboot
(5) mdk
(4) descent
(3) ultima
(2) system shock
(1) resident evil
Title: Re: Franchises that need a reboot
Post by: scott on March 02, 2013, 11:28:34 am
Castlevania - Sign me up for a series of 2D side-scrollers in 1080p60 kthx. Every 3D Castlevania I've played feels absolutely soulless.

Castlevania doesn't need a reboot. It needs a return to form, only better. It needs a new era Symphony of the Night. I will agree that the 3D games are pretty meh for most all of them. But I will also say that while I disliked Lords of Shadow for the most part, I am interested to see what they do with the 3DS game and the sequel. But I'm glad MercuryStream has said that after Lords of Shadow 2, they are done with Castlevania.

I'm actually kind of hoping that Mirror of Fate is a good mix of old and new. And maybe it'll open the door to original timeline stuff without having to be completely 2D sprite based.
Title: Re: Franchises that need a reboot
Post by: stethebubble on March 02, 2013, 11:35:21 am
I would have to say Road Rash. Rag doll physics, online racing? Sign me up!

yes. and skitchin
Title: Re: Franchises that need a reboot
Post by: jobocan on March 02, 2013, 12:26:26 pm
I'm actually kind of hoping that Mirror of Fate is a good mix of old and new. And maybe it'll open the door to original timeline stuff without having to be completely 2D sprite based.

I played the demo for Mirror of Fate and it was very disappointing. A bit too linear (though that might just be the demo), a bit too easy, not able to use the d-pad even though it's a side-scrolling game (what?), too many moves when all you ever need to use is the basic combo and the back dodge roll, the "platforming" is lame... It's all very bland I felt.

But apparently the demo is a very old build (for example, the finisher animation against the boss you fight at the end of the demo is not done at all, Trevor just kinda touches the enemy's head and it dies), so maybe it's less meh than the demo seems. I'm still deciding whether or not to cancel my pre-order (especially since I have other games coming out at the same time and I have other games I'm still not done with).
Title: Re: Franchises that need a reboot
Post by: insektmute on March 02, 2013, 12:36:15 pm
Castlevania doesn't need a reboot. It needs a return to form, only better. It needs a new era Symphony of the Night. I will agree that the 3D games are pretty meh for most all of them. But I will also say that while I disliked Lords of Shadow for the most part, I am interested to see what they do with the 3DS game and the sequel. But I'm glad MercuryStream has said that after Lords of Shadow 2, they are done with Castlevania.

I'm actually kind of hoping that Mirror of Fate is a good mix of old and new. And maybe it'll open the door to original timeline stuff without having to be completely 2D sprite based.

Yep, exactly. I'd love to see IGA and his team back at it, with the original timeline in place, though as I understand it, Ayame Kojima and Michiru Amane left Konami awhile back. I hadn't seen that MercurySteam were moving on though, so that's a bit of a relief.

I was hoping Mirror of Fate would maybe be a bit different, but from what I've seen so far, it looks about on par with Lament of Innocence. It's like they keep trying to polish the style of that game, but keep moving further into "generic medieval world" territory instead of that sort of Gothic-Baroque, psychedelic gypsy feel of 2D Castlevania games.
Title: Re: Franchises that need a reboot
Post by: scott on March 02, 2013, 01:23:26 pm
I haven't had a chance to download the demo of Mirror of Fate yet. Been too busy. But I'm keeping my preorder either way.

I've said it for awhile now. But they need to do a game based on Julius Belmont's battle with Dracula. They make so much hype about it in Aria and Dawn of Sorrow... it's had me wanting for years.

Also, I'd enjoy a Castlevania game based on the Soma timeline, where he succumbs to this dark powers and finally becomes the new Dracula. We already saw that with the right soul combo (Alternate Ending in Aria of Sorrow) or if Mina is killed he loses it (alternate ending in Dawn of Sorrow). It could be him as the "hero", or the villain. Either way, it could be pretty cool to see.
Title: Re: Franchises that need a reboot
Post by: mkarasch on March 02, 2013, 08:51:07 pm
Man, this thread gives me chills.  Dear every game developer ever: Please read this list and make it come true.  That is all.
Title: Re: Franchises that need a reboot
Post by: xxunixx on March 14, 2013, 10:16:40 am
Interesting article. Thoughts? Looks like I am not the only one that thinks it is time for Road Rash's return!!!  http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/03/13/road-rash-creator-expresses-desire-for-successor

Title: Re: Franchises that need a reboot
Post by: burningdoom on March 14, 2013, 01:06:35 pm
Interesting article. Thoughts? Looks like I am not the only one that thinks it is time for Road Rash's return!!!  http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/03/13/road-rash-creator-expresses-desire-for-successor

Should have been done a long time ago. The Road Rash games were always popular games, and they're well made games. I don't understand why EA ever stopped making them.
Title: Re: Franchises that need a reboot
Post by: zenimus on March 18, 2013, 06:34:50 am
Zelda - Someone mentioned it already, but I definitely agree. Every game since Ocarina of Time has felt the same. It's becoming a joke with the official timeline being something like "every generation a new Link, Zelda, and Ganon are reincarnated"... It's like they aren't even trying anymore. Switch things up! Give us a new overhead view game with a new art style, like what Ni No Kuni has. Or even better, make a new Zelda adventure in which we actually play as Zelda! She's got all kinds of powers, so why not?

Mario - I love that Nintendo makes both 3D and 2D style Mario games, but to me it seems like things have plateaued a bit. If you saw a screenshot of New Super Mario Bros on DS, Wii, 3DS, and Wii U, could you tell them apart? The art style has been the same for the last 15 years or so. I've always thought it would be neat to make a 2D game that looks like the cartoonish style before the N64 game hit. Wario Land: Shake It for Wii did something like that, and it looked great. The capability is there, but with the ease of 3D polygon models over expressive hand drawn sprites, we sadly don't see it often enough.

Final Fantasy - What happened to the days when a new Final Fantasy was a huge event? The brand has become so diluted with excessive spin-offs, excruciating development cycles, and crazy overdone art styles. What happened to the fun adventures we used to love? Now they're an exercise in tedium with whiny angsty characters. Scale it back, focus on gameplay, drop the constant wacky sci-fi settings, and make personable characters that aren't always pale, effeminate, and wearing too many buckles and zippers.
Title: Re: Franchises that need a reboot
Post by: htimreimer on March 18, 2013, 07:08:13 am
Final Fantasy - What happened to the days when a new Final Fantasy was a huge event? The brand has become so diluted with excessive spin-offs, excruciating development cycles, and crazy overdone art styles. What happened to the fun adventures we used to love? Now they're an exercise in tedium with whiny angsty characters. Scale it back, focus on gameplay, drop the constant wacky sci-fi settings, and make personable characters that aren't always pale, effeminate, and wearing too many buckles and zippers.
i beg of square enix to either kill or reboot final fantasy, the franchise morphed in to series of lazy nonsensical plot lines, overproduced graphics and gameplay, art and character design done by a man on hallucinogens, it all started with final fantasy 7 and its got worse over time