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General and Gaming => General => Topic started by: scott on March 06, 2013, 05:47:51 pm
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Hey all. In light of the lack of paperwork in a lot of newer games (I'm looking at you Vita, EOIV and others). I think we are going to need to make sure we list the inserts of newer games as accurately as possible.
For example, I just cracked open my copy of Castlevania: Mirror of Fate and it has no manual, but it does have the Club Nintendo code and a Konami Core code flyer in it. From a collector standpoint, I would want go know that a CIB copy lacks the manual, so it wouldn't lead to a fruitless search.
Thoughts?
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I hate the fact that they are pretty much eliminating manuals. I think for games that didn't come with one you could just make note of it in the description.
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Yeah, it sucks. It just feels like you're getting less for your money. And manuals were the perfect size to flip through while on the can. Now I'll have to go back to comics on the John.
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Definitely makes me miss the days when you'd open the box up, and all sorts of nifty stuff would come pouring out. Even worse than the lack of a manual, though? Those obnoxious recycled cases that have HUGE HOLES cut out of them, so the whole thing is flimsy as hell. Microsoft seems to be especially hellbent on pushing them, but I really hope it doesn't become the trend for everyone.
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Yeah I hate that too, I know it's pretty nerdy but I like looking through the manual especially since a lot of the time there is/used to be really helpful info or hints. I also don't like what Nintendo is doing with the recycled cases. I know it's good or whatever for the earth but they feel so cheap, and is it just me or do those cases seem like harder to open?
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And now you know how we PC players felt all those years ago.
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Yeah, I think the description in the record should mention the lack of paperwork so that folks who want it CIB will know. Still sucks though. Give the graphic designers of the world some work! They love games, too!
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Well good thing I never finished that Degree.
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Definitely makes me miss the days when you'd open the box up, and all sorts of nifty stuff would come pouring out. Even worse than the lack of a manual, though? Those obnoxious recycled cases that have HUGE HOLES cut out of them, so the whole thing is flimsy as hell.
I hate these things too. Lots of blu-ray movies have this style of case as well.
They saved a little plastic by punching the case full of holes, but then feel it's necessary to wrap all three edges of the case with plastic sticky seals in addition to the plastic shrinkwrap the whole thing is wrapped in.
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And now you know how we PC players felt all those years ago.
That and DRM are both reasons that led to me devaluing PC games.
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I hate these things too. Lots of blu-ray movies have this style of case as well.
They saved a little plastic by punching the case full of holes, but then feel it's necessary to wrap all three edges of the case with plastic sticky seals in addition to the plastic shrinkwrap the whole thing is wrapped in.
What's funny is that a lot of import games (even UK stuff) and movies I've picked up have come in sturdier packaging. Makes me glad about half my Blu-ray collection consists of Criterion stuff, and they don't mess around with ghetto cases.
Except Chungking Express. Why that had to be the ONE release in a crappy cardboard digipak, I will never know.
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I hate these things too. Lots of blu-ray movies have this style of case as well.
They saved a little plastic by punching the case full of holes, but then feel it's necessary to wrap all three edges of the case with plastic sticky seals in addition to the plastic shrinkwrap the whole thing is wrapped in.
What's funny is that a lot of import games (even UK stuff) and movies I've picked up have come in sturdier packaging. Makes me glad about half my Blu-ray collection consists of Criterion stuff, and they don't mess around with ghetto cases.
Except Chungking Express. Why that had to be the ONE release in a crappy cardboard digipak, I will never know.
I used to always buy Criterion Collection DVDs. Great stuff.
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They've done some really impeccable work on Blu-ray, especially with older French and Japanese films. They also routinely do 50% off sales through their online store or Barnes & Noble, so it hasn't killed my bank account too much to keep up with the release schedule :)
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This has been a pet peeve with me on newer games for a while now.
I've always been a completionist about CD games. Every game must have there manual or I pass on it. (unless its a really rare game and its really cheap) You don't know how many times I've walked into a used game store, looked through their PS2, Xbox, GC games, find one i've been looking for, open the case and see no manual and put it back.
In the future when I look for Used 360/PS3/Wii games more, I'm going to be opening games and see no manual and think... "Did this game have a manual??" and I can see passing up on a game then looking up online if it had a manual or not, go back to the store and find it gone. lol
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This has been a pet peeve with me on newer games for a while now.
I've always been a completionist about CD games. Every game must have there manual or I pass on it. (unless its a really rare game and its really cheap) You don't know how many times I've walked into a used game store, looked through their PS2, Xbox, GC games, find one i've been looking for, open the case and see no manual and put it back.
In the future when I look for Used 360/PS3/Wii games more, I'm going to be opening games and see no manual and think... "Did this game have a manual??" and I can see passing up on a game then looking up online if it had a manual or not, go back to the store and find it gone. lol
in the future, i dont think i will care about the manual, collecting & reading manuals prior to 2000 is fun & informative because they have personality and the marketers cared, after 2000 they lost that personality & the marketers stop caring, now a days you get a boring black & white manual that only gives the very vary basics on how to play the game, you can probably say this about video game packaging in general now a days
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I think it'd be very useful to note exactly what a game doesn't come with, it'll save everyone a headache in the future if we can get people to note now what games come with when they're factory sealed.
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I'd mostly like to know which JP games typically include a spine card. Still can't decide if it's something I'm going to worry about, but it'd be nice info all the same.
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Almost everything on CD pre-PS2 tends to come with a spine card, bar PS1 games which tend not to have them.
So if you were looking at a Saturn game you'd be safe to assume it should probably include a spine card, although there are a few that don't - but if you were looking at a PS1 game you'd more than likely be safe in assuming it wasn't supposed to include a spine card, apart from the few exceptions that do.
Clear as mud, right? :D
On the whole I view spine cards as a bonus - they don't do anything useful so I don't lose anything if they aren't there and when I do have them they always end up tucked inside the case so you can't tell which ones do or don't have them anyway.
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I think it'd be very useful to note exactly what a game doesn't come with, it'll save everyone a headache in the future if we can get people to note now what games come with when they're factory sealed.
Yep.
This!
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Ya when I bought Akumajo Dracula: Chi no Rondo on PC Engine CD, I was torn between spine card or no. And decided I wasn't willing to pay extra for a little piece of paper that would end up getting lost eventually anyway.
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Ya when I bought Akumajo Dracula: Chi no Rondo on PC Engine CD, I was torn between spine card or no. And decided I washing willing to pay extra for a little piece of paper that would end up getting lost eventually anyway.
"washing willing"?!
:o
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Ya when I bought Akumajo Dracula: Chi no Rondo on PC Engine CD, I was torn between spine card or no. And decided I washing willing to pay extra for a little piece of paper that would end up getting lost eventually anyway.
"washing willing"?!
:o
Stupid auto correct on my phone. "Wasn't Willing".... :P
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Almost everything on CD pre-PS2 tends to come with a spine card, bar PS1 games which tend not to have them.
So if you were looking at a Saturn game you'd be safe to assume it should probably include a spine card, although there are a few that don't - but if you were looking at a PS1 game you'd more than likely be safe in assuming it wasn't supposed to include a spine card, apart from the few exceptions that do.
Clear as mud, right? :D
On the whole I view spine cards as a bonus - they don't do anything useful so I don't lose anything if they aren't there and when I do have them they always end up tucked inside the case so you can't tell which ones do or don't have them anyway.
That's about what I figured. I'm inclined to not worry about it too much, since it'll probably come down to price and availability most of the time. Some really great games are surprisingly cheap even with the card, but others... eeek.
Luckily (but sadly), I don't have a Saturn or PC Engine yet, so I don't have to think about it much right now anyway, but I'm plotting some nice PS1 goodies later this month that have them :)
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Oh this makes me so mad. Game packaging is so cheap these days, especially with those "recycled" cases that Erk mentioned. DmC has to be the worst: not only does it not come with a manual - or any other paper insert - but it also has one of those thin, stupid recycled cases. >:(
I think it would be worth noting in the description if a game's release lacks a physical manual.
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Oh this makes me so mad. Game packaging is so cheap these days, especially with those "recycled" cases that Erk mentioned. DmC has to be the worst: not only does it not come with a manual - or any other paper insert - but it also has one of those thin, stupid recycled cases. >:(
I think it would be worth noting in the description if a game's release lacks a physical manual.
this is why i mostly buy games that are from 2004 and older
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Oh this makes me so mad. Game packaging is so cheap these days, especially with those "recycled" cases that Erk mentioned. DmC has to be the worst: not only does it not come with a manual - or any other paper insert - but it also has one of those thin, stupid recycled cases. >:(
I think it would be worth noting in the description if a game's release lacks a physical manual.
this is why i mostly buy games that are from 2004 and older
I'm not happy with no manual and flimsy packaging, either. But to not buy a game and miss the entire thing because you don't like the packaging, seems kind of silly to me.
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Oh this makes me so mad. Game packaging is so cheap these days, especially with those "recycled" cases that Erk mentioned. DmC has to be the worst: not only does it not come with a manual - or any other paper insert - but it also has one of those thin, stupid recycled cases. >:(
I think it would be worth noting in the description if a game's release lacks a physical manual.
this is why i mostly buy games that are from 2004 and older
I'm not happy with no manual and flimsy packaging, either. But to not buy a game and miss the entire thing because you don't like the packaging, seems kind of silly to me.
thats not the only reason, i dont find most new games compelling to buy