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Title: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: darko on September 30, 2011, 08:40:15 pm
I decided to start this thread because there is one thing I absolutely hate, no....LOATH that's related to video game collecting. It is the most terrible abomination that I can even fathom as a collector of anything. Stickers.

Price tags, anti-theft shit, etc. They all suck. They suck because most of them do their job waaaay too well. You might be lucky enough to peel one off with a single try, but 99% of the time it takes much more effort than that. Some stores (like my local favorite Vintage Stock) use stickers that are very easily removed. They peel off like the window decals your 1st grade teacher let you put up in her classroom to help decorate for Christmas. My beef is not with these. Actually, I applaud stores that use them because it's like they actually stopped and thought for 10 seconds before making the decision. A store needs price tags and stickers make the most sense to satisfy that need. I get it. However, some places just go overboard.

Take GameShit for example. They feel the need to unwrap their games and THEN put price tags directly on the case. Thus, when you remove said price tag you have to deal with sticker residue and the possibility of messing up the case before you even play the stupid thing. Some GSs even remove the artwork and put the sticker right on the spine! If you're lucky enough to stumble into a GS that still sells you a game that's simply been unwrapped (you know, so every Tom, Dick and Harry can finger your future collectable without protection before you save it from video game purgatory) you have to deal with the anti-theft sticker. This is basically the most unholy of them all. It's the stickiest most frustrating piece of garbage ever invented. Who exactly produces this thing, the same people who make super glue? Seriously. You all know what I'm talking about. I've literally had to pull off 7 stickers from one case from GS. Two on the front, two on the back, two on the artwork and an anti-theft bastard.


Here is a prime example of just how ridiculous stickers can be. I bought the LoZ: Wind Waker guide this evening from Vintage Stock (the place with nice, happy stickers). I go to peel off the price tag and to my horror there is a GS sticker hiding under it! I immediately break out the GooGone for removal. GooGone is an awesome tool for the fight agains sticker abuse but there's one little catch to using it properly; you really have to get a bit of a sticker off before it can get down to business. I begin GENTLY peeling a piece of the GS monster off and it literally began pulling the clear cover of the guide off with it. I mean, really? GS is so worried that someone is going to try to peel off the price tag on a strategy guide that they use something that literally bonds to the book? This is not my first rodeo but I was still pissed. Usually, I can get any sticker off without any damage but Nintendo guides can be a bit tricky. I don't know if they use a cheaper material to make the covers or what, but I've run into the issue with them before. The only reason I was so angry this time is because I've been looking for a nice copy of this guide for years. The ink on the cover comes right off when you peel away the clear coating:



Now this is not a new hatred by any means. It's also not a hate thread on GS (plenty of other stores pull the same sticker garbage). I've been anti-sticker for as long as I can remember. CDs, DVDs, game carts, game boxes, used game discs (you've all peeled a sticker off of a game that came from blockbuster I'm sure), etc, etc, etc. I could go on and on. I highly doubt that I'm alone on this one!
Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: byron on September 30, 2011, 09:43:15 pm
Stickers..

The back labels of so many of my SNES cartridges have been ruined by freaking stickers.

When I first discovered those wonderful yellow stickers used by Vintage Stock I fell to my knees and wept for joy. Not like those horrible, awful, nasty, hateful stickers Goodwill started using recently. Anybody else seen 'em? They're nine feet long and adhere strongly enough to repair small aircraft.
Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: scott on September 30, 2011, 09:46:13 pm
Oh man I HATE HATE stickers. It's not so bad on a dvd case, cause you can usually pull them off w/o too much trouble. Though my local GS had a policy for a while where they would stick the sticker INSIDE the PLASTIC on THE ARTWORK. Even folks that worked there didn't understand that decision...

You want to see some horrible stickerness? Here is my cart for Castlevania: Legacy of Darkness. Apparently it was a Family Video rental copy originally. Then it looks like it went through the ringer of sticker hell. Not to mention the Family Video sticker tore the back sticker to pieces.



One pet peeve I have involving collecting games, other than stickers, is either people listing games online as Rare, when we all know otherwise. I once saw Batman for NES listed as a "Super Rare" game with a tag of 40+ on it. Ya, Right. Not when I can go to my local used game store and they have 15 copies for a couple bucks a pop. Or, games listed as "Collector Quality" when all it is, is the cart and maybe a dust sleeve. WTF? That's not collector quality. Some people, ha.
Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: hexen on September 30, 2011, 09:46:20 pm
@darko I agree. Stickers are a major pain in the ass, especially when they put them on delicate labels or the super annoying ones that leave the slanted 'VOID' marks all over them. Same goes for permanent marker on cartridges, there just isn't an effective way to remove it that i know of...

However, what annoys me most about collecting is how it is starting to become mainstream. No, I'm not some hipster who was only doing it 'before it was cool', quite the opposite is true. Hipsters are actually the problem. All of the sudden they consider retro game collecting trendy and have started an massive upward rise in price. Supply and demand is understandable, and of course supply is falling due to lack of production, but it is causing sellers to start to think that even the lowliest games are solid gold. The phrase "X is worth this much on eBay" is something I am hearing more and more. This would be OK if the eBay price they where quoting wasn't a lazy look at a list of buy-it-nows posted for 5x the game's value. This would eventually work itself out, but I am sure that people who are doing it for these reasons are actually paying these ridiculous prices due to not being educated and causing sellers to actually beleive this inflated value is correct. A terrible store I've mentioned before that sells FF6 carts only for $100 could not stay in business otherwise. People must be buying, despite the readily available information on the web for a game like FF6's value. This has caused the price of games I bought before this hike to increase, sure, but my video games are not an investment because I never (unless under dire circumstances) intend to sell. If all of the sudden old video games became so unpopular they where only worth the plastic they where made of and my collection was worthless monetarily, I'd be just fine with that as I'd be able to expand my collection without dealing with these insufferable people.
Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: jobocan on October 01, 2011, 02:02:56 am
What I hate about game collecting? It has a lot to do with hexen's problem really. And that is: Resellers.

I hate those bastards, especially the ones that actually brag about ripping people off. Not that all resellers are bad off course (there's one in a nearby flea market that I don't have too many problems with beyond a few slightly overpriced games and the fact that he knows the ebay value of rarer games), but most of them are just terrible. There's this one guy at the crappier local Flea Market who will buy games from another reseller that already overprices his stuff, and he'll overprice them even more. For example, he'll sell Conker's Bad Fur Day and Super Mario RPG for 80-90$ each which is just crazy, and he says that people will pay those insane prices because he tells them that these games are rare (despite him always having multiple copies of them...). The moment I decided to never buy from him(as if the previous situationwasn't enough) was when he told a kid that Final Fantasy Dissidia on PSP was rare and tried selling it for 20$ (in terrible shape), when, at the time, it was 10$ in stores, NEW.
As a close second, I hate all those people selling retro games on the local Kijiji/Craigslist, selling for around the same price as the bad resellers at local flea markets, sometimes more. For a completely random example, there's one time I found Flintstones: Surprise at Dinosaur Peak on there... the guy tried selling it for 400$, claiming it had "sentimental value" for him... And it seems everyone finds terrible excuses to price games high. Let's just put it this way: finding NES systems with no games included for 100$ isn't rare.

So, basically, the part I hate about collecting games is the actual "going around and finding games" element... it seriously sucks to even find games around here, so I HAVE to resort to online more often than not since there are basically no good sources for games nearby, and online is almost always a better deal (specifically jjgames.com, they have good sales every month or 2 if you sign up to their newsletter).
Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: madmax on October 01, 2011, 03:46:55 am
So far the only thing that I have encountered that has gotten me pretty upset is that someone wrote on the Final Fantasy (NES) map. Thus making it worthless <.< It wasn't listed when i bought the map and the person had a good reputation (ebay). It's really irritating, I'll need to eventually get another one. Bleh
Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: kirbysuperstar on October 01, 2011, 05:47:09 am
The scarcity of anything older than the PS2 in Australia. I'm sure the local postie knows my name as "that guy who gets all the international packages".
Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: urbanchaos on October 01, 2011, 10:15:13 am
I think it's the same thing as alot of people who already posted here: resellers...

I hate the bastards that really think they know everything, and try to sell you games that aren't worthing that much. Yeah, try to make me believe that a beaten-up copy of Friday the 13th on NES is very rare and worth 20$....
Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: scott on October 01, 2011, 10:39:55 am
the bastards that really think they know everything...


I was talking to a reseller the other day, selling him on vgcollect, and he didn't know anything about variations. I was explaining the disc variants on some of the Working Designs games, like Dragon Force, and the difference between an original release and a Majesco release SNES game.  The only thing he really knew was that there are regular editions, collector's editions and "greatest hits" editions, and that he can get "way more for a black label PS1 game, than a Greatest Hits version". I educated him over the course of the conversation, but at the same time I didn't mention if certain variant Saturn discs are supposedly worth more that others. Ha

Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: forte on October 01, 2011, 01:51:20 pm
Stickers are a big one for me, and so is people writing in stuff. I've had to replace several manuals that came with CIB games I got on eBay because the seller neglected to mention someone had written down a password or something. Another thing I hate is cigarette smoke. I got a great deal on a Sega Saturn lot, and damned if I didn't get them reeking of smoke. Took two weeks to get it all out between windexing the cases and putting dryer sheets in the paperwork. Yet another instance of sellers not giving full disclosure.
Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: urbanchaos on October 01, 2011, 08:42:53 pm
the bastards that really think they know everything...


I was talking to a reseller the other day, selling him on vgcollect, and he didn't know anything about variations. I was explaining the disc variants on some of the Working Designs games, like Dragon Force, and the difference between an original release and a Majesco release SNES game.  The only thing he really knew was that there are regular editions, collector's editions and "greatest hits" editions, and that he can get "way more for a black label PS1 game, than a Greatest Hits version". I educated him over the course of the conversation, but at the same time I didn't mention if certain variant Saturn discs are supposedly worth more that others. Ha



Ha!

I was talking about one in particular I had to encounter at a local store. He was all like " yeah, yeah, that's rare and that's rare ", but damn, friday the 13th is nowhere near rare and a beaten up copy certainly isn't worth 20$!!!

Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: monochrome on October 01, 2011, 11:35:17 pm
Slabbed/graded games.  If you want to do this with your factory-sealed whatever, that's fine.  I'm not judging.  

However, I just take offense to the idea that some group of so-called experts put an arbitrary number on a holofoil sticker, hermetically seal your (already) sealed game in a plastic coffin, and tack-on several hundred dollars to the "value".  Die.

I don't mind stickers, sometimes they add character.  That character lets you know they've been unloved.  They've been traded around like a drug addict, from halfway house to halfway house.  They've done time in an unsafe retail environment.  They have been in a bin with others of their kind.  

A game without stickers, with a decent label has a better chance of having been in the hands of a caring collector or at least shelved somewhere safe.  

I also hate ebay "buy it now" prices, not because of how high they are, but because every two-bit swap meet seller or pawn shop cashier will just do a quick search and then quote you a "buy it now" price (probably from a complete copy), even on a loose game, forcing you to have to fight harder for a decent deal on a game that may have been through the ringer, quality-wise.
Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: brettybluevein on October 02, 2011, 01:46:28 am



However, I just take offense to the idea that some group of so-called experts put an arbitrary number on a holofoil sticker, hermetically seal your (already) sealed game in a plastic coffin, and tack-on several hundred dollars to the "value".  Die.



Holy hell do I feel this way! I mean, who the f*ck are they really and why are they the authority again? Because they registered the website before anyone else? C'mon. And I went there just for kicks to see how much game grading is...wow, they must be making some serious cash considering what they charge to grade a single game. The only thing I like are their cases, I wish I had some for myself :P
Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: mojoeskateco on October 02, 2011, 02:05:17 am
I hate the stickers as well

Gamestop in my area finally started using easy to peel stickers.

Also marker writing bothers me although mr. Clean magic eraser works like a charm
Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: scott on October 02, 2011, 02:27:18 am

Also marker writing bothers me although mr. Clean magic eraser works like a charm


Oh, ill try this. I have a few games that I picked up used, my LoZ: link to the past is horrible, marker everywhere.

Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: hexen on October 02, 2011, 02:56:47 am
I don't mind stickers, sometimes they add character.  That character lets you know they've been unloved.  They've been traded around like a drug addict, from halfway house to halfway house.  They've done time in an unsafe retail environment.  They have been in a bin with others of their kind.


I tend to agree with this in some cases. The smaller, family owned places with small, un-obnoxious but interesting stickers are usually pretty cool. One of my games has a little sticker on it from a place called The Pharaoh Shop, which is an Egyptian king that I find quite cool.

Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: kirbysuperstar on October 02, 2011, 05:46:47 am
Actually, yeah. I hate stickers as well. Especially EB's. One on the front, fine. One on the back, okay. One on the spine - on the actual insert? You stupid bastards. One on the disc?! Hell, my pre-owned Valkyria Chronicles has "P.O." written on it in sharpie. Argh!
Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: darko on October 02, 2011, 03:58:41 pm

Also marker writing bothers me although mr. Clean magic eraser works like a charm


Oh, ill try this. I have a few games that I picked up used, my LoZ: link to the past is horrible, marker everywhere.



Just be careful on how much you use it. It is sandpaper. If you use it too much you'll rub off the texture on the cart.
Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: jobocan on October 02, 2011, 04:24:39 pm
I don't mind stickers, sometimes they add character.  That character lets you know they've been unloved.  They've been traded around like a drug addict, from halfway house to halfway house.  They've done time in an unsafe retail environment.  They have been in a bin with others of their kind.  

A game without stickers, with a decent label has a better chance of having been in the hands of a caring collector or at least shelved somewhere safe.


I also don't mind stickers actually. Or writing. For one, they enable me to get the games cheaper, and I don't display my games in a way that let you see the stickers or writing anyways. As long as the sticker isn't covering too much of the label, or the end-label, I'm perfectly fine with them. What's important to me is that the game works.
Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: htimreimer on October 06, 2011, 09:59:41 am
I have two things i hate about collecting

(1)Cleaning the games and video game consoles (inside and out) i think the best example of this is nes games their are so many ways to clean them it gets confusing and tell me why did the two of the consoles i clean had a dead spider in it

(2)All the different connections that old consoles like the odyssey 2 its so annoying i have to buy an adapter to play it
Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: scott on October 06, 2011, 10:15:14 am
tell me why did the two of the consoles i clean had a dead spider in it


I saw a video on YouTube of a guy cleaning an old SNES and it had cockroaches inside. eewwwww

Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: darko on October 06, 2011, 01:07:05 pm
tell me why did the two of the consoles i clean had a dead spider in it


I saw a video on YouTube of a guy cleaning an old SNES and it had cockroaches inside. eewwwww



I can beat that. I have a clear Gameboy from which I had to remove what appeared to be a toe nail clipping. It was inside the case resting on the speaker.  
Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: byron on October 06, 2011, 07:54:16 pm
I really enjoy cleaning games and systems. I love to take them apart and dust all their little crevices with a toothbrush.. I'm weird, aren't I?
Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: desocietas on October 06, 2011, 08:33:23 pm
I saw a video on YouTube of a guy cleaning an old SNES and it had cockroaches inside. eewwwww


*cries* ah... whyyy.  now i'm going to be worried about my older consoles and what terrible insides they might have.  i heard cockroaches love things like stamp glue, so something like the inside of plastic consoles must have little treats for them.

I can beat that. I have a clear Gameboy from which I had to remove what appeared to be a toe nail clipping. It was inside the case resting on the speaker.  


*cries some more* reminds me of all the gross things I'd see in the apple keyboards at school back when we had the ones with the clear cases...
Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: tpugmire on October 07, 2011, 09:00:28 am
This is why I completely disassemble and clean every piece of hardware I get.  Cartridge games get the same treatment if I can get them open without destroying the labels.  Controllers are by far the grossest things I have come across.
Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: scott on October 07, 2011, 09:55:32 am
Years ago I bought a used original Game Boy so I could scavenge the screen off of it, to replace mine which was failing. When I tore it apart, all the buttons had a yellowish brown grime that resembled ear wax on them. It was all inside the case, so I'm not sure what it was and it looked pristine on the outside. I gagged so much when cleaning the buttons, etc. I got it for $10 with a game, so it was a cheap but gross repair.
Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: htimreimer on October 10, 2011, 05:27:37 am

Controllers are by far the grossest things I have come across.


Controllers are gross,  i opened up one of my Odyssey 2 controller and what i found was something orange that i think was food at one point

Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: scott on October 10, 2011, 05:30:50 pm
Interestingly, I tore down all 4 of my nes controllers and they were all pristine. Never cracked open my Saturn controllers though. But one of my 3d controllers is super grungy.
Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: htimreimer on October 11, 2011, 02:08:39 am
But one of my 3d controllers is super grungy.


that  controller you really should clean it
Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: scott on October 11, 2011, 03:29:56 pm
Ya... it's stashed away in a box somewhere, I never use either of my 3D controllers. Maybe one day. ha
Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: marvelsofindustry on October 12, 2011, 11:33:13 pm
+1 for stickers definitely. Fortunately I was able to save my Zhadnost Longbox from a half torn-off Free Control Pad sticker from the previous owner, getting the rest off without tearing the box. My Batman Rise of Sin Tzu Lithograph Edition box was not so lucky. :( Another time a smashed piece of (probably chewed) candy was fused to a Mario Kart 64 game I found. Instead of cleaning it off they concealed it by sticking  the price sticker over it, leaving the cleaning for some other poor bastard (me).

Another complaint is disc/game only items. Some older ones get a pass as I'll buy loose NES, gamegear, gameboy games, whatever, but IMO there is NO reason that recent and current gen games, Playstation, DC, GC, XBOX, etc should ever be caseless. Don't even get me started with Gamestop throwing out their game cases ;)
Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: htimreimer on October 13, 2011, 03:24:09 am
Another time a smashed piece of (probably chewed) candy was fused to a Mario Kart 64 game I found. Instead of cleaning it off they concealed it by sticking  the price sticker over it, leaving the cleaning for some other poor bastard (me).


marvelsofindustry how did you clean it.

can anyone tell me how to get rid of  Marker of a nes game with out a mr clean magic eraser




Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: madmax on October 13, 2011, 04:17:38 am


can anyone tell me how to get rid of  Marker of a nes game with out a mr clean magic eraser



I just cleaned Permanent marker off of 2 snes games.

Nail polish remover will get that right off. Dab it on some tissue paper and rub the marker. Make sure you don't go on anything the liquid could damage :)

Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: mojoeskateco on October 13, 2011, 12:15:36 pm
Magic eraser works for me as long as I don't press too hard.

If you press too hard you will discolor the cart slightly but it still looks better than marker IMO.

I've never tried nail polish remover so I'll give that a whirl next time.
Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: scott on October 13, 2011, 12:30:47 pm
Oh I may try the nail polish on my Link to the Past cart. Sadly there is no saving the label, but I couldn't beat the price.
Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: tpugmire on October 13, 2011, 04:08:25 pm
Be sure to use non acetone polish remover.  The regular stuff will try to eat your cart.  Avoid carburetor cleaner too.  Don't ask...
Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: marvelsofindustry on October 13, 2011, 04:42:34 pm
Another time a smashed piece of (probably chewed) candy was fused to a Mario Kart 64 game I found. Instead of cleaning it off they concealed it by sticking  the price sticker over it, leaving the cleaning for some other poor bastard (me).


marvelsofindustry how did you clean it.

can anyone tell me how to get rid of  Marker of a nes game with out a mr clean magic eraser


Thankfully it wasn't on a either of the labels so I used Goo Gone and a flathead screwdriver acting as a chisel.

Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: scott on October 13, 2011, 04:45:41 pm
Avoid carburetor cleaner too.  Don't ask...


Oh man, I want to ask. I bet it melted the crap out of it, gotta love chemical reactions.

Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: htimreimer on October 21, 2011, 07:38:30 pm
What is weirdest thing you remove win you clean out a console or a cartridge
Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: scott on October 21, 2011, 07:46:39 pm
What is weirdest thing you remove win you clean out a console or a cartridge


I've been pretty lucky with the weird stuff. The worst I've ever had was some strange orange goop inside the buttons of a Game Boy. It looked like earwax, really orange earwax.

Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: jobocan on October 21, 2011, 08:44:13 pm
Here's one thing to add to things I hate about collecting:
The last 3 consoles I bought, I had/have to repair.

The SMS had to be opened up and have the voltage regulator replaced. Not a tough fix but still annoying.
I have to open my Vectrex's controller to figure out why the 4 button doesn't work.
And now the Virtual Boy I just got, which was working perfectly last week, is starting to display scanlines and other crap in the left eye display, so I have to fix that (apparently by taking the display cable and putting it in the oven for a minute or 2), since playing with the left eye closed is all sorts of lame.

I guess modern gaming isn't any better in that respect, even worse in most cases, but it's still annoying to repair this stuff (you never know where these old consoles went, so you never know how much someone else may have mistreated his stuff).
Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: madmax on October 21, 2011, 09:20:55 pm
*looks at his PS3*

I dont even know how many times ive reflowed it now...
Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: amauriel on October 22, 2011, 04:06:14 pm
I bought a Genesis for a dollar at a flea market one time. It didn't work...and it rattled. Opened it up, found three quarters inside. Removed those, works like a charm...and I got the system for a quarter!
Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: desocietas on October 22, 2011, 05:06:03 pm
I bought a Genesis for a dollar at a flea market one time. It didn't work...and it rattled. Opened it up, found three quarters inside. Removed those, works like a charm...and I got the system for a quarter!


*laughs* I love it!  "Kid, it's not a coin-op arcade machine... You here me, kid?"
Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: madmax on October 22, 2011, 05:22:24 pm
Funny PS3 died again last night. I think its at the end of its life :( I'm gonna need a new system for FFxiii-2
Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: scott on October 22, 2011, 05:58:47 pm
I bought a Genesis for a dollar at a flea market one time. It didn't work...and it rattled. Opened it up, found three quarters inside. Removed those, works like a charm...and I got the system for a quarter!


My niece used to think one of the empty slots on my PC was a coin slot. She was always putting coins in it. Luckily my case at the time was easy to open and I'd just take them out after she left.

Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: tpugmire on October 23, 2011, 04:13:40 pm
I hate original Gameboys.  Specifically trying to fix the screens.  I've thrown away both of the ones I've come across after trying to fix them and only making them worse.  One had a good screen, but was filthy.  I took the batteries out and cleaned it up.  When I turned it back on, it had 4 dead lines in the screen.
Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: scott on October 23, 2011, 05:18:21 pm
On mine I just took the board out of mine, and swapped it with the new one. That way I didn't even touch the screen itself. I've not had a problem since.
Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: varkias on October 28, 2011, 01:24:03 am
What do you HATE about collecting?:  Sellers who think everything is "RARE!!!!".  I have downsized my collection considerably lately and am focused on Saturn.  I'm pretty much done checking local shops who think every Saturn title is work at least $20 and that just the Shining Force III disc is worth $80...
Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: madmax on October 28, 2011, 01:34:39 am
That reminds me.

I was at a gamebuzz in montreal and they had an FFV Super famicom cart for $80. I got mine complete, straight from japan for $16...
Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: urbanchaos on October 30, 2011, 04:06:14 pm
Gamebuzz are purely and simply thieves. Damn, I was looking for a Pokemon Blue cartridge lately, and they had a beaten up one, with the label partially ripped off for 24,99$. God dammit'
Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: htimreimer on October 31, 2011, 05:39:12 pm
i went to a thrift store what i found is a copy of Sonic the Hedgehog in almost mint condition for 4.95 or 4.94 in us dollar the only problem with it is sum sticker residue on the cartridge label and vary minor scuff on the manual
Title: Re: What do you HATE about collecting?
Post by: ffxik on December 06, 2011, 05:53:50 am
Things that I hate about collecting.

Lets see alot were already listed stickers, resellers, and GameStop.  GameStopo's and just about every rental places stickers are just irritating to the point of just screaming at the counter "You Just need one, you putz".  

Another thing that absolutely hate is "New".  I'm sorry sir, that has had the factory shrinkwrap removed. The game disc taken out, and quite frankly the case is broken in several places.  It's used, deal with it.  To be sort of fair on this point though.  The GameStop that is near me usually swaps the display box for the honestly "New" game, but not always.

Ebay.  I have come to loathe that site for everything it's worth.  Most people on that site are just hair pullingly obvious in their attempts to sucker you outta your cash.   Collector's quality doesn't mean just disc/cart.  Furthermore I wish alot of these pinheads would realize that when dealing withe Sega CD/Saturn and early PSX games. You need to be careful with the longbox. I always send a note to the seller stating what I want done in these cases.  Most never listen, and in one case it cost me the rare seventh variant of Lunar: The Silver Star for SCD.  It came loose in the case and when I got it, it had a chip about the size of a fingernail busted out of it.
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Post by: matt on December 06, 2011, 02:46:02 pm
Another thing that absolutely hate is "New". I'm sorry sir, that has had the factory shrinkwrap removed. The game disc taken out, and quite frankly the case is broken in several places. It's used, deal with it. To be sort of fair on this point though. The GameStop that is near me usually swaps the display box for the honestly "New" game, but not always.

God I hate this too. If it's new...it's sealed. End of story.
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Post by: scott on December 06, 2011, 02:58:04 pm
Exactly. I HATE when they do that. Especially nnow when some games require a code for full access. I'm looking at you ubi passport....
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Post by: desocietas on December 06, 2011, 03:02:07 pm
Ebay.  I have come to loathe that site for everything it's worth.  Most people on that site are just hair pullingly obvious in their attempts to sucker you outta your cash.   Collector's quality doesn't mean just disc/cart.  Furthermore I wish alot of these pinheads would realize that when dealing withe Sega CD/Saturn and early PSX games. You need to be careful with the longbox. I always send a note to the seller stating what I want done in these cases.  Most never listen, and in one case it cost me the rare seventh variant of Lunar: The Silver Star for SCD.  It came loose in the case and when I got it, it had a chip about the size of a fingernail busted out of it.


Ugh, I know!  I just bought Persona 2: Eternal Punishment for PS1, and the barely-there packaging caused a crack in the front of the jewel case during delivery (no crack in the photos in the eBay listing).  Is it so hard for people to package things correctly?
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Post by: scott on December 06, 2011, 03:14:01 pm
While I also hate this. Its not as bad when it is a standard jewel case.... Saturn and Sega CD cases on the other hand, RAGE. ha
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Post by: desocietas on December 06, 2011, 03:20:43 pm
While I also hate this. Its not as bad when it is a standard jewel case.... Saturn and Sega CD cases on the other hand, RAGE. ha


yeah, i'm just lazy about finding replacements.  it's just annoying if it was in fine condition when it *left* their hands and they stopped caring about it once they got paid.
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Post by: scott on December 06, 2011, 04:51:23 pm
Oh I totally agree. Some folks don't understand customer service. At all.
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Post by: covenantn on January 21, 2012, 02:05:43 pm
Stickers, Gamestop, and ebay sellers with not only a lack of comprehension on how to grade the condition of their games, but just all around poor form.

Last week I bought three PS1 games on ebay; Lunar: Silver Star Story, Lunar 2: Eternal Blue, and Persona 2. Here are the issues I ran into:

Lunar: SSSC- Listed as complete, and in "very good" condition. Paid $65, plus $8 for expedited shipping. Seller took three days to send it, and on Wednesday the seller sent me a message saying that he had to resend the package, as my zipcode had "smudged" in the post, and it was returned. Ever hear of packing tape? They did nothing to reimburse me for the shipping charges, and it took 9 days to get something that should have taken 6, considering the holiday.

The manual and map were the only things in "very good" condition. The box was a little beat up, but that was included in the description. The plastic case shows a ton of wear, and the discs are all lightly scratched, in spite of description saying they weren't.

Lunar 2: EBC- Listed as complete, and "like new". Paid $75, plus $5.50 for shipping. The seller used signature confirmation, and I worked 6am-4pm all week, so I missed the mail, and had to pick up the package at the post office a day later. If the seller had mentioned anything about signature confirmation, I would have looked elsewhere. Everything was in MAYBE "very good" condition, and the discs are the variant, which was a surprise. Unfortunately, they aren't "like new".

For both Lunar's, I already had incomplete copies with perfect discs, that I picked up at a local game store for $60 and $70, respectively. I pieced together a decent copy of each game, and decided to use the poorer disc's for actual playing, until I get the urge to sell them.

I would have saved money if I had just bought sealed copies.

As for Persona 2, again, listed in "like new" condition, for $80. The game shipped fast, even though I paid for priority mail, and the seller shipped it first class. The case is scuffed up, the game disc is scuffed and has a few small scratches, and the bonus disc is fairly scratched. I'd say "very good" condition would be pushing it.

I complained to the seller, and got $15 refunded, so it wasn't a total wash.
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Post by: matt on January 21, 2012, 07:09:54 pm
*sigh*  This post made me sad because I regretfully sold my mint Lunar 1, 2 and Arc the Lad Collections about 2 years ago. :(
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Post by: foxhack on January 21, 2012, 08:24:54 pm
Packing tape.

Around here there's a couple of sellers that get some good PC games. The problem is, they always, ALWAYS close them up with packing tape, so I can't inspect the contents to see if anything is missing.
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Post by: killerchameleon on January 23, 2012, 07:32:18 am
What I hate the most about my collection is that it makes me feel like a hoarder.  Wish I could make it disappear and reappear upon my request.  I guess not enough space is my only complaint.
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Post by: scott on March 17, 2012, 07:24:10 pm
I HATE GameStop's new stickers. They never seem to peel off nicely, not like the older ones. And they are larger now too, which means even more sticker to peel off in the first place... fun.
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Post by: jcalder8 on March 17, 2012, 09:09:35 pm
@scott, I actually find that the Gamestop stickers are now easier to get off than the old smaller ones but since I'm in Canada maybe they are a different. I find that the Value Village/Savers tags are really hard to take off.

I don't really hate anything about collecting apart from the cost and having to store the items but I love it all the same.
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Post by: soera on March 17, 2012, 10:40:39 pm
I think the thing I hate the most about collecting anymore is "collecting". It has went from driving around town looking for hidden game stores to get something you may have never heard of and your friends have never heard of ... to typing the name on some website and figuring out which price you are willing to pay.

Ebay pisses me off so much cause 98% of game shit isnt rare ... but when it really is rare, the damn thing costs as much as 6 months worth of car payments. I will give a second shout out to whoever mentioned the VGA grading. Just cause there is a name on there saying that the item is indeed sealed and putting whatever opinion they give about how good condition the item is in does not make the item cost 10 times what it should be.
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Post by: ffxik on March 18, 2012, 12:08:06 am
I think the thing I hate the most about collecting anymore is "collecting". It has went from driving around town looking for hidden game stores to get something you may have never heard of and your friends have never heard of ... to typing the name on some website and figuring out which price you are willing to pay.

Ebay pisses me off so much cause 98% of game shit isnt rare ... but when it really is rare, the damn thing costs as much as 6 months worth of car payments. I will give a second shout out to whoever mentioned the VGA grading. Just cause there is a name on there saying that the item is indeed sealed and putting whatever opinion they give about how good condition the item is in does not make the item cost 10 times what it should be.

Tch.  The VGA grading system.  Yeah, I can see their adverts now.  "Wanna inflate your games value to idiotic proportions. You're in luck, we have no idea, but hey some moron will believe it."

I do not agree with it.  Much like someone touting GameFAQS as the holy grail of game knowledge.  It's no better than wiki.  The users make the content, mistakes are made.
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Post by: jcalder8 on March 18, 2012, 12:52:30 am
@soera, as much as Ebay prices may piss me off sometimes and the thought of someone who cares nothing about games getting to them before me so that he can just resell them online makes me angry, I'm still happy for what the internet has brought to my collection. I don't have any friends who are into games so the fact that I can come on to here and talk about them makes up for what the internet/Ebay has taken away from the process of collecting. Thanks to forums I have been able to pick up some really great games that I may have passed on otherwise or never heard of to even look for.
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Post by: soera on March 18, 2012, 12:55:44 am
Oh I agree. I have gotten a lot of stuff from Ebay for my collection ... I just wish I could have gotten it from some skanky old video game store (with possibly a conversation with the sales dude). But it does help that I also have forums like this to chat and the group I meet up with once a month. :)
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Post by: htimreimer on March 29, 2012, 09:17:41 am
Ebay pisses me off so much cause 98% of game shit isnt rare ... but when it really is rare, the damn thing costs as much as 6 months worth of car payments. I will give a second shout out to whoever mentioned the VGA grading. Just cause there is a name on there saying that the item is indeed sealed and putting whatever opinion they give about how good condition the item is in does not make the item cost 10 times what it should be.

i know what you mean on ebay i have seen  a copy of super mario bros 3 with no box or manual go for 230 dollars not including shipping which is another 50 dollars
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Post by: madmax on April 04, 2012, 05:11:33 pm
People who list things as complete when there are thing missing. FFIII without the map and/or poster is NOT complete.
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Post by: blipcs76 on April 05, 2012, 02:20:25 pm
Most of my gripes have already been touched on.  I shake my head whenever I see an eBay listing for a *rare* copy of Top Gun on the NES or someone charging $10 for Jurassic Park on the Genesis.

I used to love Goodwill because you could clean up when you ran into games.  In the past they used to have them marked all the same price and reasonable, so you could find the occasional gem for a bargain.  I found Dragon Warrior III and Intelligent Qube at Goodwill at prices that made me grin from ear to ear.  Today they price every game the same, but they're way out of control.  I think the cheapest NES games at my local Goodwill stores are $3.99.  My guess is they're going to be sitting on that pile of Genesis sports titles and copies of SMB/Duck Hunt for a long time.
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Post by: turf on April 05, 2012, 04:55:04 pm
What I hate with a burning furvent passion is EBAY.  I don't hate the site.  It's cool the stuff you can find on there.  I hate the fact that everyone that has a few games prices them vs. ebay.  If I go to a pawn shop looking for games, there is no chance I'm paying $12 for (insert random game).  Everyone thinks they have something special because its a 20 year old video game.  There's half a million in the world and you want to think Rush n' Attack is rare.
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Post by: scott on April 05, 2012, 08:13:09 pm
I liked this one copy of Batman for NES, someone was listing it on ebay for $20 and calling it rare. It was cart only too, mind you.
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Post by: soera on April 05, 2012, 11:25:14 pm
That is also my biggest complaint. There is a pawn store about 3 miles from the house that has tons of NES games. I just learned about it 2-3 weeks ago. I first walked in there and was like "Sweet, Im going to finally score something to brag about." Well, then I start looking at the games ... they are priced outrageous. I asked the guy whats up. He said he just looked on Ebay 2 days ago and priced everything. I used to be able to go into a pawn store and offer $3-5 a game without an issue. Now they are asking $30-$75 per "rare".
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Post by: george on April 06, 2012, 03:38:02 pm
I use my girlfriend's nail polish remover and cotton balls to remove sticker residue all the time. It works wonders.

The thing I hate about collecting, is once I want something, I HAVE to have it. I get this feeling like the item will never be available again if I don't buy it right now.
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Post by: desocietas on April 19, 2012, 11:38:25 am
Instead of making a new post, thought I'd just add it to here.

I've been searching for a cheap copy of Paper Mario (GC) on eBay but so many of the photos either unknowingly (stupid) or knowingly (evil) cover up the "best seller" graphic that they started printing on the cover.

Just be upfront about it people!  Stop trying to trick me into buying something I don't want.
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Post by: scott on April 19, 2012, 12:02:53 pm
Resellers of newly released items are quickly become a large annoyance. For example, Nintendo's failure to release enough Circle Pad Pros for the 3DS has people attempting to sucker folks into paying up to double the price. Since you can't find it anywhere. Or the folks that are already trying to scam people out of an extra $20 for Xenoblade, when you can easily buy it direct from Nintendo
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Post by: desocietas on April 19, 2012, 12:09:02 pm
Resellers of newly released items are quickly become a large annoyance. For example, Nintendo's failure to release enough Circle Pad Pros for the 3DS has people attempting to sucker folks into paying up to double the price. Since you can't find it anywhere. Or the folks that are already trying to scam people out of an extra $20 for Xenoblade, when you can easily buy it direct from Nintendo

Oh yeah, I saw that people were still doing that for Radiant Historia after the reprint.  It's dropped back down, fortunately.  Though the soundtrack bundle is going for $125 still!  I'm still kicking myself for not preordering it...
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Post by: soera on April 19, 2012, 12:09:36 pm
What about skylander figures that are being listed for $90 each knowing they are $9 on the store shelf?