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Title: Another Wii U stat
Post by: 90snostalga on January 27, 2014, 02:00:28 am
The following article suggests 3 ways that Nintendo can save itself.  1 being to drop the Wii U completely and go ahead and move on to a next gen console and even release the first party Nintendo games to it and skip the Wii U.  Please read and let me know what you guys think about about the article.


http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/01/26/3-ways-to-save-nintendo.aspx
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: blipcs76 on January 27, 2014, 11:50:47 am
Nintendo is in an awkward position.  If they rush their next console to market, they're going to be out of sync with MS and Sony, as well as infuriate anyone who spent $300 on a Wii U.  They also already have flagship titles in development for Wii U, like Zelda.  Pushing new console now would be a mess.  Sega killed off their fan base by releasing upgrades too frequently (32x/Sega CD/etc.)

It's way too early to say the Wii U is a failure, as their biggest games are coming out later this year.  Here's what I would do to fix the situation if it were up to me:

1.) Aggressively court 2nd/3rd parties.
Lack of games is the biggest problem with this system.  They need more support.

2.) Launch a massive marketing campaign
People still don't know what Wii U is.

3.) Overhaul MiiPlaza.
It's cute, but seems really archaic compared to the MS/Sony interfaces.  Create a more modern interface and make Mii Plaza optional.

4.) Bring online functionality up to MS/Sony standards. 
Free online is a big selling point.

5.) Give up on casuals
It worked for you 7 years ago.  But casuals play games on their phones and tablets now and you have failed to move them to the Wii U.  You're not getting them back.  Gimmicks don't last, and it's core gamers who drive the industry, not moms playing Zumba fitness or shovelware versions of the Price is Right.

6.) Do something fresh. 
We're beginning to tire of the Mario/Metroid/Zelda tentpoles and countless Mario sports games.  Bring something new, creative and edgy to the system.  Re-engage old fans.  As gamers get older, they often feel that they 'outgrow' Nintendo.  Nintendo needs to become more relevant and Mario Tennis is not the way to do it.
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: badATchaos on January 27, 2014, 12:13:42 pm
I think the worst thing they could do at this point is drop the Wii U. They would begin to loose consumer confidence much like Sega did with the rapid release of add-ons and systems. The only this they should be doing is focusing on their issue of marketing. Firstly the naming of console is pretty poor. A lot of people think its just a tablet or system update to the original Wii. They've failed on making the public aware of what the product actually is.
The same is true with the 3DS. I know people who still think its a DS with the a 3D display. In this example it doesn't help that everything previously had "DS" in the title. DS, DS Lite, DSi, DSi XL. At least the 3DS is selling....
Putting Mario and other franchises on smartphones/tablets would be just as big of a mistake. That would directly compete with their own handheld systems. There would be no reason to buy the only hardware piece thats actually selling! Plus as a gamer I still feel that touch based controls are inferior to the tactile and precise controls of buttons.
I also agree with the notion of diversifying.  Casual and platform games are fine and dandy but they need to start appealing to other demographics. "Casual" gamers will buy the system and maybe a game or two while a "hardcore" gamer is much more likely to lay down the money on many games. 
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: blipcs76 on January 27, 2014, 12:45:00 pm
Putting Mario and other franchises on smartphones/tablets would be just as big of a mistake. That would directly compete with their own handheld systems. There would be no reason to buy the only hardware piece thats actually selling! Plus as a gamer I still feel that touch based controls are inferior to the tactile and precise controls of buttons.

I agree that moving their games to mobile would be a huge mistake...however...it might be a smart move to create some small games they can use as strictly marketing pieces.  Crank out a Temple Run clone using Mario and put it out there for free and saturate it with ads for the Wii U and it's games.  As simple as running an ad between the title screen and when the game starts that can help to clarify what Wii U is and get some buzz going for it or help it reach a market that's ignorant about it.
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: soera on January 27, 2014, 01:22:54 pm
Ive mentioned it before and Ill say it here. The issue Nintendo has is its so stuck in that family gaming aspect. This is 2014 not 30 years ago when the NES was released. Kick these childish games to the curb and get with the program on the M rated games. Leave the touch/motion options to the casual bastards on the tablets, get some online options other than stupid Miis walking around talking to each other and bulk the hell up! Mario, Kirby, and Link have had their day. Let them retire and get on board with some fresh new faces.
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: turf on January 27, 2014, 03:47:45 pm
Ive mentioned it before and Ill say it here. The issue Nintendo has is its so stuck in that family gaming aspect. This is 2014 not 30 years ago when the NES was released. Kick these childish games to the curb and get with the program on the M rated games. Leave the touch/motion options to the casual bastards on the tablets, get some online options other than stupid Miis walking around talking to each other and bulk the hell up! Mario, Kirby, and Link have had their day. Let them retire and get on board with some fresh new faces.

I agree with all of that except the retiring Mario, Link, and Kirby.  They can still have those games, but don't hang your hat on them.  I'll still buy Mario, but I'd like some 3rd party stuff too.
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: burningdoom on January 27, 2014, 09:04:32 pm
Nintendo is in an awkward position.  If they rush their next console to market, they're going to be out of sync with MS and Sony, as well as infuriate anyone who spent $300 on a Wii U.  They also already have flagship titles in development for Wii U, like Zelda.  Pushing new console now would be a mess.  Sega killed off their fan base by releasing upgrades too frequently (32x/Sega CD/etc.)

It's way too early to say the Wii U is a failure, as their biggest games are coming out later this year.  Here's what I would do to fix the situation if it were up to me:

1.) Aggressively court 2nd/3rd parties.
Lack of games is the biggest problem with this system.  They need more support.

2.) Launch a massive marketing campaign
People still don't know what Wii U is.

3.) Overhaul MiiPlaza.
It's cute, but seems really archaic compared to the MS/Sony interfaces.  Create a more modern interface and make Mii Plaza optional.

4.) Bring online functionality up to MS/Sony standards. 
Free online is a big selling point.

5.) Give up on casuals
It worked for you 7 years ago.  But casuals play games on their phones and tablets now and you have failed to move them to the Wii U.  You're not getting them back.  Gimmicks don't last, and it's core gamers who drive the industry, not moms playing Zumba fitness or shovelware versions of the Price is Right.

6.) Do something fresh. 
We're beginning to tire of the Mario/Metroid/Zelda tentpoles and countless Mario sports games.  Bring something new, creative and edgy to the system.  Re-engage old fans.  As gamers get older, they often feel that they 'outgrow' Nintendo.  Nintendo needs to become more relevant and Mario Tennis is not the way to do it.

blipcs76 for President (of Nintendo)!
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: kingrat101 on January 27, 2014, 11:25:40 pm
I think I saw somewhere that Michael Pachter, said basically the same thing. In that Nintendo should drop the wii u and develop games on other consoles and smartphones and then seven years down the line release a new console, it's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. It would be insane to drop the wii u, like everyone else has said they'd lose consumer confidence. Nobody wants to spend 300 bucks on a worthless product... No irony intended, ha, but I think Nintendo just really needs to get games out there. They need something to sell the Wii U gamepad, that's their gimmick and they haven't been doing a good job on selling it. I don't think most people really truly care about superior graphics, people want something different and that's where Nintendo has an edge... But they aren't showing that, realistically I cant think of one worthwhile game that really utilizes the pad well and I don't see any coming out that have that either. I personally would love to see a new Metroid game that is third person one the TV and first person on the gamepad, kind of like Other M, but actually feel like a Metroid game. I also agree though too, they need new franchises
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: 90snostalga on January 28, 2014, 12:45:20 am
I think I saw somewhere that Michael Pachter, said basically the same thing. In that Nintendo should drop the wii u and develop games on other consoles and smartphones and then seven years down the line release a new console, it's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. It would be insane to drop the wii u, like everyone else has said they'd lose consumer confidence. Nobody wants to spend 300 bucks on a worthless product... No irony intended, ha, but I think Nintendo just really needs to get games out there. They need something to sell the Wii U gamepad, that's their gimmick and they haven't been doing a good job on selling it. I don't think most people really truly care about superior graphics, people want something different and that's where Nintendo has an edge... But they aren't showing that, realistically I cant think of one worthwhile game that really utilizes the pad well and I don't see any coming out that have that either. I personally would love to see a new Metroid game that is third person one the TV and first person on the gamepad, kind of like Other M, but actually feel like a Metroid game. I also agree though too, they need new franchises

I talked to a lady at Gamestop today and I asked her about her experience with trying to sell the Wii U to customers, and she said the biggest issue she has came across, is parents not wanting to spend 300 on a console that they do not sell the gamepad individually for if their kids break it.  She said most parents are assuming that they would have to spend 300 to replace the gamepad itself so they refuse to buy the wii u.  She said now, they only push the ps4, xbox one and no longer push the wii u
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: 90snostalga on January 28, 2014, 12:53:34 am
Oh, I wanted to mention I did my first pre-order ever!  I pre-ordered Mario Kart for the "U" today  :D
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: karyann on January 28, 2014, 11:23:52 am
I talked to a lady at Gamestop today and I asked her about her experience with trying to sell the Wii U to customers, and she said the biggest issue she has came across, is parents not wanting to spend 300 on a console that they do not sell the gamepad individually for if their kids break it.  She said most parents are assuming that they would have to spend 300 to replace the gamepad itself so they refuse to buy the wii u.  She said now, they only push the ps4, xbox one and no longer push the wii u

Wow, that sucks. It's completely unfair to stop promoting a console just in case some damn kid breaks shit up. And the gamepad is actually pretty sturdy, too.

I understand some kids are more... "hyper" than others, and that some parents really prefer not to take a chance, but for stores to stop promoting the console because of that... it's just so stupid. There are a lot of grown adult who would enjoy the Wii U and not break it, and they won't be aware it exists because of that? Meh  :-\
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: 90snostalga on January 28, 2014, 01:52:41 pm
I talked to a lady at Gamestop today and I asked her about her experience with trying to sell the Wii U to customers, and she said the biggest issue she has came across, is parents not wanting to spend 300 on a console that they do not sell the gamepad individually for if their kids break it.  She said most parents are assuming that they would have to spend 300 to replace the gamepad itself so they refuse to buy the wii u.  She said now, they only push the ps4, xbox one and no longer push the wii u

Wow, that sucks. It's completely unfair to stop promoting a console just in case some damn kid breaks shit up. And the gamepad is actually pretty sturdy, too.

I understand some kids are more... "hyper" than others, and that some parents really prefer not to take a chance, but for stores to stop promoting the console because of that... it's just so stupid. There are a lot of grown adult who would enjoy the Wii U and not break it, and they won't be aware it exists because of that? Meh  :-\

Yea.  The gamepad is very sturdy but I can understand there is a lot of kids with games and systems that do not know how to take care of them, and parents of those kids who dont care to monitor what their kids are doing and how they treat their game systems.  I have some family members in that category.  They would be quick to buy a 50 dollar controller for christmas but pretty sure not a gamepad if it really cost over 100. 

And like she was just saying so many people have a 360 or ps3 so its easier to push their newer consoles, and that most with a wii, are going in for 3ds games.  Like other than Mario for example, she does not have any games to basically try to sell someone for the wii u. 

Nintendo just needs get some games out!  When I got my star wars 360 console last week from gamestop, I had a conversation with the guy and I asked him if he had a wii u and he said no.  I asked him why and he said quote "tell me what games on the wii u are worth me getting the system for?"  and then he said the only reason he would buy a wii u is for the zelda game.  He said mario kart, mario, smash bros. and all that are not convincing enough for him to get the system. 

I guess we all know that the Wii U current failure results from multiple reasons but mainly:  marketing (people dont really know what the wii u is) and no games for it.  It's up to Nintendo to get some third and first party games out for it and promote their product a heck of a lot better than what they have.  If it was not for vgcollect, I would not have gotten one.  I'm really starting to see the problems NIntendo is creating for itself.    I wish we could all submit them our ideas and concerns but not sure if they would actually read their emails?
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: 90snostalga on January 28, 2014, 02:06:33 pm
I do know that when I complete Mass Effect 1 and 2, I'm going to play the 3rd one on the Wii U  :)
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: sin2beta on January 28, 2014, 06:44:45 pm
The best advice I've heard for Nintendo is to sell the WiiU without the Gamepad. Nintendo states this is $100 dollars of the cost. So, here are the benefits:

WiiU $199

" 'nuff said" quoth Stan Lee.

Then sell the gamepad separately. This allows for increased consumer confidence. This comes from knowing that replaceable hardware is found with the Gamepad sold separately. Without the gamepad, there should be no loss in gameplay. Since the gamepad can act as the only screen while the television is used to watch TV. This implies that two screens are not actually needed.

Make the 3DS + circle pad pro be a possible gamepad.

I would totally buy a $199 WiiU. I've owned every Nintendo console except WiiU and 3DS. And believe me, every day I am just a inch away from starting a Nintendo collection. $199 for a system that has Wonderful 101, Bayonetta, Sonic, Mario, Zelda... OMG I couldn't take it anymore.

Or... at least I say... my suspicion is that most WiiU purchasers are like me 2 years ago. Older and not enjoying the same stuff as much as I thought I did. I loved the Wii. I loved Mario Galaxy. But I only played it for about 2 hours. This was my average time on most Wii games. I found myself playing NES and SNES games instead. I have a suspicion that Nintendo's audience is actually aging. I think kids are the main players, but not the main demographic for the original purchase. http://www.nintendolife.com/forums/wii-u/age_of_wii_u_owners (synopsis of link: Lots of people in their 20s and 30s)

As a former teacher, kids never mentioned Nintendo. In elementary school, a few kids would have DSs. This was not many though. In middle school, I never heard Nintendo once. I wonder if the company really is too kid-centric. Or if they are just old hat. I wonder if it's audience is slowly aging and slowly moving on. And honestly, that kind of makes me sad.
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: burningdoom on January 28, 2014, 06:55:54 pm
Selling it without the GamePad is a terrible idea, I think. That would suck to buy the entire system, get it home, then realize you have to buy another $100 worth of equipment to be able to use it properly. That would feel like Nintendo was gouging you and forcing you to go out and buy more stuff.

Selling Gamepad's separately (and getting one with your system) would work just fine. Controllers are sold with systems, and sold separately as well.
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: turf on January 28, 2014, 07:38:00 pm
I think the idea he's sin2beta is getting at is having the 3DS replace the gamepad as the controller.  Nintendo could sell a "3DS Owners Bundle" where they include the circle pad pro and charge $100 less. If the connectivity is possible, I think it's an awesome idea. Then, if the customer wants, offer a $100 gamepad.  Not a bad plan, if they can get the connectivity down. Will it help?  I don't know.

Personally, the Wii wasn't my favorite system. It had some fun games, but the gimmick controls wore on me.  This time around, I found myself not really worried about what Microsoft and Sony are doing. I don't have time or energy for a. 100+ hour cinematic masterpiece. I just want games; fun, easy to play games.  Mario Bros U? Yep. Mario 3D World? You bet. Sonic Lost Worlds? Yeah. I've been playing Assassins Creed IV (Which is shaping up to be great), but I more often than not turn my WiiU on. Hell, I play Skylanders more than play anything on my XBox 360.

My tastes are changing. I'm afraid they're more in line with a 10 year old's taste. Other people may think that realistic graphics and "grownup" game play is the bee's knees, bug I just want fun. Nintendo can still do that.

Fun is fun is fun. I don't care if it's bright colors and cartoony or dark and gritty.
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: badATchaos on January 28, 2014, 10:28:52 pm
The best advice I've heard for Nintendo is to sell the WiiU without the Gamepad. Nintendo states this is $100 dollars of the cost. So, here are the benefits:
WiiU $199

You're forgetting that retailers take an even bigger cut out of the sale. But still, I kinda agree with what your saying.
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: 90snostalga on January 29, 2014, 12:33:14 am
A quote from Turf

"I still have my original day one Wii.  Works perfect.  BEAT THAT XBOX"


hahaha  ;)
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: 90snostalga on January 29, 2014, 12:34:17 am
I'm not sure selling the gamepad separate will make a difference because at the end of the day, the wii u is still the cheapest next gen console.  And if you play a game like zombie u, you need the game pad anyways.
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: inexodus on January 29, 2014, 12:55:48 am
4.) Bring online functionality up to MS/Sony standards. 
Free online is a big selling point.
I think this is the biggest issue.  When you've got friends playing games online, you buy the same system so you can play together.  That means an entire group of friends usually goes for either PSN (more recently) or Xbox Live.  Nintendo isn't even in that contest, but now that they're on HD hardware they could be a bigger player if they added a comparable online system with friends lists.  Even better if they bring 3DS users along for the ride.  I hoped Club Nintendo or the Nintendo Network would be used for some of that, but I don't see it happening any time soon.

The one thing that would really sell me on a premium service here, and I think a lot of other gamers too, is if they threw in a pile of VC games each month.  To the article's point, Nintendo could very easily do a Netflix style offering where you get access to a big game library as long as you subscribe.  Maybe they rotate the collection, so if you really like Mario you can buy that title and always have it available, but otherwise you're still getting a decent pile of games to pick from.  It seems to be working well for PSN's Instant Game Collection, and Nintendo has a much larger catalog to offer.


The best advice I've heard for Nintendo is to sell the WiiU without the Gamepad. Nintendo states this is $100 dollars of the cost. So, here are the benefits:

WiiU $199

" 'nuff said" quoth Stan Lee.
Several good points, but I don't see this happening.  The most recent lesson comes from Kinect- if you don't bundle it with every console, nobody develops for it.  If Nintendo pulled the gamepad, or didn't include them in the first place, I seriously doubt many games would use it.  At the very least it wouldn't be the primary control option like it is now.  And without the gamepad, it's really just a Wii HD.

I do like the idea of a 3DS as an alternative controller or second screen, but I'm not sure it could completely replace the gamepad due to the low video resolution and different controls.  Still, individual 3DS controllers for each player would be great on some games.  I'm thinking local 8-player Mario Kart, racing on 3DS systems while watching highlights and a map on the TV.  Who could pass that up?
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: scott on January 29, 2014, 09:59:56 am
I like the idea of 3DS controls for the Wii U. It harkens back to the GameCube + GBA days.
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: turf on January 29, 2014, 11:37:52 am
If Nintendo would just let us run shit, we could put them on top of the world again!
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: 90snostalga on January 29, 2014, 11:45:33 am
If Nintendo would just let us run shit, we could put them on top of the world again!

Turf, I was actually reading something about upcoming Wii U releases, and the comments.  There was actually LOTS of people saying they would get a Wii U for a game called "Bayonetta 2" and a RPG called "X".  Now, the X game looked pretty cool and I'm now looking forward to it but not sure about Bayonetta.  I'll have to play the first one first.

Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: karyann on January 29, 2014, 12:46:06 pm
The gamepad is necessary to navigate through most applications (starting with mii plaza, the "main menu"), so it would be awful to sell the Wii U without any gamepad.

Also, I'm completely not buying the "no games" argument. There are plenty of great Wii U games already, and a lot more to come. Sure, Mario's another Mario (I'm tired of Mario, too), but the other games are filled with new content and ways to play. Nintendo Land has great diversity and lots of "party" use, Pikmin 3 has a LOT of improvements and different mechanics over the last Pikmin game (which was 2 generations ago, so it's far from being overused), Wonderful 101 is a completely new game, Rayman Legends has been developped especially for Wii U at first and uses the gamepad in a wonderful way, LEGO city undercover is a fun adventure for anyone of any age, and that's only to name 5. There are a lot of great games already, but a lot of people ditch them with the "too childish" excuse without ever taking a look past the graphics.

Sorry, I think that turned into somewhat of a rant :P But I'm tired of people always judging games on Nintendo consoles by their looks only, and never wanting to even see how gameplay is like. They're still putting in a lot of creativity in most of their games (once again, I know Mario has pretty much "stabilized" its state by now, but so has Call of Duty and the likes, which people never seem to get tired of. But I digress).
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: scott on January 29, 2014, 12:58:11 pm
That X game is one of the reasons I want a Wii U eventually. I'll buy it long before I get a system to just to ensure that I have it  (like I did w/ Luigi U).
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: 90snostalga on January 29, 2014, 02:54:52 pm
That X game is one of the reasons I want a Wii U eventually. I'll buy it long before I get a system to just to ensure that I have it  (like I did w/ Luigi U).

I thought you already have a Wii U?
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: 90snostalga on January 29, 2014, 04:15:42 pm
Nintendo's CEO and executives took a 20 to 30 percent pay cut for the next 5 months to help with the sales.  That's what I'm talking about.  Nintendo knows what they are doing.  I think 2014 will be the year for Nintendo  :)
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: scott on January 29, 2014, 05:20:40 pm
That X game is one of the reasons I want a Wii U eventually. I'll buy it long before I get a system to just to ensure that I have it  (like I did w/ Luigi U).

I thought you already have a Wii U?

Nope I was sold on the PS4 as my first next gen console. Not disappointed at all. I will get a Wii U eventually and plan on picking up thing I must have beforehand.
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: redblaze57 on January 29, 2014, 10:49:13 pm
there really isn't anything I can add to this topic but I try to voice my opinion

First off I just want to say Nintendo saying the Wii U in their commercial was "an upgrade" was a bad idea. I could go on about this, but I'm just going to leave this at they should have said it was Nintendo next/newest Console. and advertise it as the system that not only could you play your Mario's and Zelda's on but also you would be able to play your Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed, and Batman Arkham and other huge 3rd party games  that they have on the system.

as for the stuff in the Article
1.Personally I think they should go more PSplus than Netflix

2.Dropping the Wii U is the absolute worst thing they can do right now, I can see it having a shorter life span maybe 4-5 years at minimum but it's just going to end up pissing off those who have already bought the Wii U. Also I'm calling bullsh*t on the "Fusion" console, a Coaxial connection doesn't make sense and to have full specs this early doesn't sit right with me.

3. Having a giant touch screen in the middle of the controller isn't crazy enough

Things I think Nintendo should do that aren't listed above
-new IP/bring in the "hardcore Crowd": everyone's said it, and I think that Having the Vastley superior version of Ninja Gaiden 3(before it went multiplat),  Bayonetta 2 and "X" is a good start, what else can they do? maybe see about an Eternal Darkness 2 or retry Geist, and bring in some new games that could become Staples in the Nintendo universe.

-maybe a Pro controller bundled in? another thing I fell that isn't great is the fact that people don't know that you can play a lot of games with just the regular Pro controller and some games can use both (I mainly played Wind Waker HD with the pro controller while having the tablet controller in front of me displaying maps and items)

-3DS Player: just release an attachment that would allow you to play your DS/3DS on the Big screen, with the hype that surrounded the Vita TV this would seem like a no Brainer to me

-finally allow the 3DS to also act as a Second tablet/replacement screen. I've said this from the beginning no need to go into details

EDIT:wel something I said is sort of might be happening???
http://operationrainfall.com/nintendo-ds-coming-to-virtual-console/
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: bobster on January 30, 2014, 10:24:17 am
Get Shigesato Itoi to make Mother 4 for it. Boom another million consoles sold.
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: 90snostalga on January 30, 2014, 01:20:42 pm
Get Shigesato Itoi to make Mother 4 for it. Boom another million consoles sold.

Pure Genius Bob :)  Pure genius.  Is there a way we can all send Nintendo a recommendation or a petition or something to help them out?
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: bobster on January 30, 2014, 01:25:42 pm
Get Shigesato Itoi to make Mother 4 for it. Boom another million consoles sold.

Pure Genius Bob :)  Pure genius.  Is there a way we can all send Nintendo a recommendation or a petition or something to help them out?
I wouldn't be surprised if the fine folks over at starman.net haven't already done that lol.
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: bobster on January 30, 2014, 01:26:51 pm
I guess last night Nintendo talked about it's future plans. They actually all sound really promising.

Here's the link to the kotaku article about it. (http://kotaku.com/how-nintendo-plans-on-tackling-its-toughest-year-1512339954)
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: 90snostalga on January 30, 2014, 01:29:14 pm
While I'm currently playing Shenmue 2 for Xbox, I would like to add to the Mother 4 list that Nintendo team up with Sega to make Shenmue 3 exclusive to the Wii U.  Any one else with me?
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: 90snostalga on January 30, 2014, 01:36:36 pm
I guess last night Nintendo talked about it's future plans. They actually all sound really promising.

Here's the link to the kotaku article about it. (http://kotaku.com/how-nintendo-plans-on-tackling-its-toughest-year-1512339954)

Thanks for the article. I read it and I will have to say, personally, I'm disappointed.   Why?  Well, I do like that they are not really moving to the smart phone market but;  I don't care about more DS titles on the virtual system.  Maybe because I dont play virtual or online games so I dont care about that.  I could get the games on the DS to play them.  I guess this feature would not make more Wii U sales.  People who dont have a Wii U will not say "Im going to buy that Wii U so I can download DS games and play them"

One Nintendo username across all of Nintendo?  Again, how will this increase sales...

I just feel nothing in that article will make more Wii U sales.  Nintendo needs to focus on what can give more sales.
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: 90snostalga on January 30, 2014, 01:44:47 pm
Nintendo if you read this.  Please read our opinions and hear our voices.  Please focus on better marketing and getting games out.  There are still millions who don't know the Wii U is a new system, they believe it's just an add on for the Wii.  Also, put out more better Wii U games please.  Not a bunch of DS games.  There is a good lineup this year but just keep the line up going. 
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: scott on January 30, 2014, 02:41:37 pm
There are still millions who don't know the Wii U is a new system, they believe it's just an add on for the Wii.

I still stand by my opinion that the Wii U is a stupid name. And its no wonder that people are confused by it.
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: burningdoom on January 30, 2014, 02:42:36 pm
There are still millions who don't know the Wii U is a new system, they believe it's just an add on for the Wii.

I still stand by my opinion that the Wii U is a stupid name. And its no wonder that people are confused by it.

It is, but it's not like Xbox One is any less stupid of a name.
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: 90snostalga on January 30, 2014, 02:47:10 pm
There are still millions who don't know the Wii U is a new system, they believe it's just an add on for the Wii.

I still stand by my opinion that the Wii U is a stupid name. And its no wonder that people are confused by it.

It is, but it's not like Xbox One is any less stupid of a name.

Lol!   ;D   It's seem more stupid to older folks like me who were around for the original Xbox because now I have to say Original Xbox when referring to the original xbox because when I say first xbox, my little brother wants to correct me and say "you mean the xbox one?"

Sega and Nintendo should join forces and put out a console called the Sega Nintendo!!!   ;)  No?
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: scott on January 30, 2014, 03:07:57 pm
There are still millions who don't know the Wii U is a new system, they believe it's just an add on for the Wii.

I still stand by my opinion that the Wii U is a stupid name. And its no wonder that people are confused by it.

It is, but it's not like Xbox One is any less stupid of a name.

True. I suppose its just because I came from the generation where each console was named something different.

I also remember thinking "PlayStation 2" was a dumb name too tho.
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Post by: karyann on January 30, 2014, 03:43:07 pm
There are still millions who don't know the Wii U is a new system, they believe it's just an add on for the Wii.

I still stand by my opinion that the Wii U is a stupid name. And its no wonder that people are confused by it.

It is, but it's not like Xbox One is any less stupid of a name.

True. I suppose its just because I came from the generation where each console was named something different.

I also remember thinking "PlayStation 2" was a dumb name too tho.

And yet in the end, it's the only name that doesn't sound stupid haha. Playstation 4 is the only one that feels "right" this gen. I also hate the name "Wii U" a lot, it sounds bleh and it's a lot more confusing to people who don't follow news in the video games industry. And don't get me started on "Xbox one"  :P
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: redblaze57 on January 30, 2014, 07:37:26 pm
probably the best reaction to all this negative stuff. Honestly I've got to start acting more like this towards any negative stuff in video games unless it actually affects me or my habits.
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Post by: sin2beta on January 30, 2014, 07:44:22 pm
probably the best reaction to all this negative stuff. Honestly I've got to start acting more like this towards any negative stuff in video games unless it actually affects me or my habits.

That's sound advice. During the Dreamcast years, I was pretty oblivious. And I'm glad. I just enjoyed the hell out of it. Although I don't think the WiiU is Nintendo's last.

Enjoy the time and do the things you want to do, play the games you want to play. If you don't you could regret it. It's just like the time I could have met Mr. T at the mall. The entire day, I kept saying, "I'll go a little later, I'll go a little later..." And when I got there, they told me he just left. And when I asked the mall guy if he'll ever come back again, he said he didn't know. Well, I'm never going to let something like that happen again! I'm going to play the WiiU now, dammit!
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: 90snostalga on January 30, 2014, 07:50:21 pm
probably the best reaction to all this negative stuff. Honestly I've got to start acting more like this towards any negative stuff in video games unless it actually affects me or my habits.

That's sound advice. During the Dreamcast years, I was pretty oblivious. And I'm glad. I just enjoyed the hell out of it. Although I don't think the WiiU is Nintendo's last.

Enjoy the time and do the things you want to do, play the games you want to play. If you don't you could regret it. It's just like the time I could have met Mr. T at the mall. The entire day, I kept saying, "I'll go a little later, I'll go a little later..." And when I got there, they told me he just left. And when I asked the mall guy if he'll ever come back again, he said he didn't know. Well, I'm never going to let something like that happen again! I'm going to play the WiiU now, dammit!

Awesome video and funny!!   :)

Give us more information on Mr. T.  Was he just there to sign autographs or what?  Why did you delay?
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: sin2beta on January 30, 2014, 07:52:22 pm
probably the best reaction to all this negative stuff. Honestly I've got to start acting more like this towards any negative stuff in video games unless it actually affects me or my habits.

That's sound advice. During the Dreamcast years, I was pretty oblivious. And I'm glad. I just enjoyed the hell out of it. Although I don't think the WiiU is Nintendo's last.

Enjoy the time and do the things you want to do, play the games you want to play. If you don't you could regret it. It's just like the time I could have met Mr. T at the mall. The entire day, I kept saying, "I'll go a little later, I'll go a little later..." And when I got there, they told me he just left. And when I asked the mall guy if he'll ever come back again, he said he didn't know. Well, I'm never going to let something like that happen again! I'm going to play the WiiU now, dammit!

Awesome video and funny!!   :)

Give us more information on Mr. T.  Was he just there to sign autographs or what?  Why did you delay?

Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: karyann on January 30, 2014, 07:56:37 pm
That video was awesome! Video games are just that... games. So let's have fun!
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Post by: 90snostalga on January 30, 2014, 08:03:54 pm
Oh, thanks Sin2Beta for making me feel like a dumb ***  ;)
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: redblaze57 on January 30, 2014, 08:05:21 pm
Oh, thanks Sin2Beta for making me feel like a dumb ***  ;)

I don't remember that moment on the Simpsons either so he had me fooled too.
Title: Re: Another Wii U stat
Post by: 90snostalga on February 01, 2014, 04:14:32 am
Oh, thanks Sin2Beta for making me feel like a dumb ***  ;)

I don't remember that moment on the Simpsons either so he had me fooled too.

I know right?  There is only like a million Simpsons episodes and they are still on the air somehow.