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General and Gaming => General => Topic started by: disgaeniac on March 16, 2014, 11:33:40 am
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...Gave me the idea for this topic:
What is (are) the rarest & most expensive game(s) for each system (platform)?!
"Platform" can = Any & all consoles, computers, handhelds, etc.
Basically, if there's enough games for ____ to have some that stands out as the rarest & most valuable games for the platform...it's fair game ;D
ALSO - instead of just listing the name of a game & what platform it's on...let's also try to (if we know) say/explain some things about the games; really, you can post whatever you want to about it -but- I was thinking that some *specific* things might be more useful, helpful, and educational to the rest of us gamers & collectors here.
As has been covered & discussed in other topics - most of us that have been around here for a minute & that are at least somewhat active on the forums & involved with the community here, already have a good idea of who has/knows (*"Specializes"*) in different games & systems.
The consoles/platforms that are my favorites and the ones that I focus the most on collecting games for, well, I like to think that I know a good amount about them.
However...none of us (at least *I* don't) know everything about everything.
Point is, that I could be standing there - holding a game in my hand (for certain platforms) that's worth thousands of dollars -and- is priced @ 99 cents...that I put back down & walk out of the store w/o buying it :o
So...in the spirit of making this a more interesting & helpful thread - instead of just the name + system (like I said earlier, if you happen to know) any stories, trivia, and/or *WHY* and/or *HOW* did this game become so rare & valuable?
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Probably the rarest thing I have ever wanted is the Elemental Gearbolt Assassin's Briefcase on the PS1. To my understanding there were only 50 ever produced and they were handed out to people at E3 1998 if I am not mistaken. It is a metal briefcase with the Elemental Gearbolt logo engraved on the front, and has the standard print Elemental Gearbolt game in it along with a gold memory card, gold Namco Guncon and a certificate. I know most collectors crave things like NWC or Stadium Events, but this is one item that I would buy if I had the money. They rarely come up for sale though given there super limited numbers, and I think they are worth several thousand for a complete one.
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Hrm, so are you asking for the rarest games we own for each system, or just the rarest we know of?
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One of the rarest games I know of is a PC game called Alice: An Interactive Museum. The English version of the game is incredibly rare, but the Japanese one is a bit more common. Copies of the game used to sell for over a grand six-eight years ago.
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Hrm, so are you asking for the rarest games we own for each system, or just the rarest we know of?
You don't have to own (or have ever owned) them...any ones that you know of are fine!
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Well, none of these are super-rare, but I was kinda surprised to see they've gone up in value a bit recently:
The Wild Arms games for the PS2 seem to be going up. Probably the last big-name RPG series I need to get into my PS2 RPG collection (the rest are more niche games). Sad thing is I had all of these at one time, had bought them all brand-new - now the only one I have left is Wild Arms 3. :(
I tend to ignore the value on games I own and don't plan on getting rid of, so I was kinda surprised to learn that the two Powerstone games on the Dreamcast are getting valuable and considered somewhat rare.
A month or two before I started posting regularly here I came across a thread that had made the front page about how the component cable for the Gamecube had somehow gotten really expensive. Not a game, but related. Anyway, whoever that person was I owe you a big "thank you", because I sold mine on ebay the week after reading that poster for about $170. Which is insane. Why are they sought after, anyway? If you wanted to play GC games over component, why not just get a backwards compatible Wii & its component cable, both of which are MUCH easier to come by? Oh well, I shouldn't ask questions like that. ;)
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Air Raid for the Atari 2600. It was made by a small locally owned and operated toy store somewhere in Cali, and only a dozen or so are known to exist, about 3 complete. You'd know if you saw one, it is shaped like a small shovel and light blue in color, with just a picture for a label and no name on the cart. The toy company was believed to have been a front for a drug business, and it was said that they might have also produced a few other 2600 games that are so rare, none have ever been found.
To me these kinds of rare phenomena are very interesting. Much more so than some championship cartridges, because these were technically games that were available to the general public at some point in time.
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Air Raid for the Atari 2600. It was made by a small locally owned and operated toy store somewhere in Cali, and only a dozen or so are known to exist, about 3 complete. You'd know if you saw one, it is shaped like a small shovel and light blue in color, with just a picture for a label and no name on the cart. The toy company was believed to have been a front for a drug business, and it was said that they might have also produced a few other 2600 games that are so rare, none have ever been found.
To me these kinds of rare phenomena are very interesting. Much more so than some championship cartridges, because these were technically games that were available to the general public at some point in time.
In the video game world there is rare, then there is Atari rare :p. I think pound for pound Atari has more genuinely rare games then console's made by other companies. The crash of 1983 has a lot to do with that as well.
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Air Raid for the Atari 2600. It was made by a small locally owned and operated toy store somewhere in Cali, and only a dozen or so are known to exist, about 3 complete. You'd know if you saw one, it is shaped like a small shovel and light blue in color, with just a picture for a label and no name on the cart. The toy company was believed to have been a front for a drug business, and it was said that they might have also produced a few other 2600 games that are so rare, none have ever been found.
To me these kinds of rare phenomena are very interesting. Much more so than some championship cartridges, because these were technically games that were available to the general public at some point in time.
In the video game world there is rare, then there is Atari rare :p. I think pound for pound Atari has more genuinely rare games then console's made by other companies. The crash of 1983 has a lot to do with that as well.
Yeah. I enjoy coming across some of the more uncommon Atari carts myself. Every time I find a stack in the wild, I look through it to see if there is something I've not heard of. If I've not heard of it, I buy it. A couple of years ago I found a stack and to my amazement there was Sword Quest Water World. Snapped that one up for about $3, valued at about $80 to $100!
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Air Raid for the Atari 2600. It was made by a small locally owned and operated toy store somewhere in Cali, and only a dozen or so are known to exist, about 3 complete. You'd know if you saw one, it is shaped like a small shovel and light blue in color, with just a picture for a label and no name on the cart. The toy company was believed to have been a front for a drug business, and it was said that they might have also produced a few other 2600 games that are so rare, none have ever been found.
To me these kinds of rare phenomena are very interesting. Much more so than some championship cartridges, because these were technically games that were available to the general public at some point in time.
In the video game world there is rare, then there is Atari rare :p. I think pound for pound Atari has more genuinely rare games then console's made by other companies. The crash of 1983 has a lot to do with that as well.
Yeah. I enjoy coming across some of the more uncommon Atari carts myself. Every time I find a stack in the wild, I look through it to see if there is something I've not heard of. If I've not heard of it, I buy it. A couple of years ago I found a stack and to my amazement there was Sword Quest Water World. Snapped that one up for about $3, valued at about $80 to $100!
That is the rarest Atari cart I've found as well. I guy on CL had a huge lot of 2600 games, spotted it, asked how much he was asking, $5 per game, SOLD!!! I don't collect for the Atari 2600 so I ended up selling it, I think for $90.
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Rare and most valuable don't always go together, and personally I learn about a game that's rare or valuable all the time. Then there are rare/valuable prototypes and promo carts.
These include;
- Nintendo World Championships 1990 (NES)
- Nintendo Campus Challenge (NES & SNES)
- Pepsi Invaders (Coke Wins) (Atari 2600)
- Atlantis II (Atari 2600)
- Test Carts (multiple systems)
- Donkey Kong Country - Competition Cart (SNES)
- Star Fox - Super Weekend (SNES)
Then there's games that become rare and sometimes valuable due to it was pulled from the market. I added why they got pulled.
These Include;
- Stadium Events (NES) - most famous and expensive of the recalled games. recalled due to Bandai trying to release a power pad before Nintendo.
- Tengen Tetris (NES) - Nintendo sued Tengen for selling games unlicensed games and won the rights to Tetris.
- Tiger Woods PGA Tour Golf '99 v1 (PS1) - an episode of South Park can be found on the disc. lol
- 007 Agent Under Fire (XBOX) - Early versions of this game had software hidden on it that could turn your Xbox into a Modded version and play copied games.
- Kakuto Chojin: Back Alley Brutal (XBOX) - Recalled due to material considered offensive to middle eastern Religion.
- The Guy Game (PS2/XBOX) - This game was recalled off the market and is the only banned game in the US. When it was found out one of the Girls that flashed was underage.
- Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas version 1 (PS1/XBOX/PC) - When the PC/Xbox version was released a year after the PS2 version, it was hacked and a Hot Coffee Sex game was found. And players could open it with a hack device. While the PS2 version is common, the Xbox/PC versions are harder to find.
- 2010 FIFA World Cup South Africa (PS3/XB360) - Early copies had a soccer ball that had symbols that where sacred to Middle East Religions and players where kicking it around.
- Lego Lord of the Rings (XB360) - Some copies had the disc labeled "Demo Disc" but it was a full copy.
- Too Human (XB360) - Most recent recalled game, was pulled due to developer using another companies Game Engine and not giving them any credit or royalties.
- X-Men: Distiny (XB360/PS3) - Same reasons as Too Human. (Although I still see this game all the time new) lol
Then there was store exclusive games. These are the Blockbuster Video Ones.
- Hagane (SNES)
- Final Fight Guy (SNES)
- Clay Fighter Tournament Edition (SNES)
- Ren & Stimpy Fire Dogs (SNES)
- Madden Championship Edition (GEN)
- Clay Fighter Sculptor's Cut (N64)
- Stunt Racer (N64)
- Transformers: Beast Wars Transmetals (N64)
- NFL Blitz Special Edition (N64)
- Razor Freestyle Scooter (N64)
- Freestyle Street Soccer (XBOX & NGC)
- Outlaw Golf and Vollyball mini games (XBOX) - there's 3 total (another was given away by Toys R Us)
Then there's games that are rare/valuable due to not many copies of the game was released.
Many Atari 2600 games, they include.
- Air Raid
- Red Sea Crossing (only 2 are known to exist today)
- Gamma Attack (again only a couple copies are known to exist)
- Birthday Mania (this was a game mail ordered game that was personalized to a player)
- Video Life (Was mail ordered only)
- Magicard (another Mail ordered game)
- Quadrun & Sword Quest Waterworld (Only bought through atari club)
- Chase the Chuckwagon (only sold with bags of Dog Food)
- Tooth Protectors (only sold as a promotion for Johnson & Johnson)
- Halloween & Texas Chainsaw Massacre (where to violent for the time)
- The Atari Porno games (only available from mail order)
This list would be way to long but here's some other famous rare games.
- Cheetahmen 2 (NES) this game technically was never released, many copies where found in a warehouse and sold off.
- Flintstones Surprise at Dinosaur Peak - Very limited release, most was found as a rental.
- The 3 "Adult" games on NES. Peek-a-Boo Poker, Hot Slots & Bubble Bath Babes
- Little Samson
- Magical Case (T16)
- Several Neo Geo AES games
With the exception of many on first list, some of the Atari Games, Some AES carts and Magical Chase many of these games do appear on Ebay quite often (just pricey). Some are not even that expensive (some recalled and BB exclusive ones) Try finding a game to an extremely rare game console.
Bandai/Apple Pippin US games
Casio PV1000
Funtech A'Can (I found 1 and never seen one again)
Gizmondo
Tomy Tutor (I was lucky and bought a complete collection)
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Xbox:
Metal Wolf Chaos - It's a japanese game for the original Xbox. It was never released in the United States so not may copies were produced. On top of that, it's an extremely over the top satire of the U.S. In the first minute of the game, the U.S. president jumps out of the oval office while piloting a mech as the oval office explodes behind him. It's a really stupid and funny game that's a cult classic. It sells for over $100 used on ebay.
PS2:
Rule of Rose - It sells for over $200 used. It was met with mixed criticism when it first came out and highly controversial because people claimed it sexualized minors and displayed acts of violence against children. Although many have defended the game on the grounds that the sexualization is a very small and minor part of the game. Most people said the controls were horrible (some called it unplayable), in fact the game has a "59" on metacritic. I've never played it but from I've heard it has a great story and has an amazing atmosphere.
Wii:
Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn - Used it sells for over $60 and new it sells for over $170. I've never played it so I couldn't tell you why it's so valuable.
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Rare and most valuable don't always go together, and personally I learn about a game that's rare or valuable all the time. Then there are rare/valuable prototypes and promo carts.
These include;
- Nintendo World Championships 1990 (NES)
- Nintendo Campus Challenge (NES & SNES)
- Pepsi Invaders (Coke Wins) (Atari 2600)
- Atlantis II (Atari 2600)
- Test Carts (multiple systems)
- Donkey Kong Country - Competition Cart (SNES)
- Star Fox - Super Weekend (SNES)
Then there's games that become rare and sometimes valuable due to it was pulled from the market. I added why they got pulled.
These Include;
- Stadium Events (NES) - most famous and expensive of the recalled games. recalled due to Bandai trying to release a power pad before Nintendo.
- Tengen Tetris (NES) - Nintendo sued Tengen for selling games unlicensed games and won the rights to Tetris.
- Tiger Woods PGA Tour Golf '99 v1 (PS1) - an episode of South Park can be found on the disc. lol
- 007 Agent Under Fire (XBOX) - Early versions of this game had software hidden on it that could turn your Xbox into a Modded version and play copied games.
- Kakuto Chojin: Back Alley Brutal (XBOX) - Recalled due to material considered offensive to middle eastern Religion.
- The Guy Game (PS2/XBOX) - This game was recalled off the market and is the only banned game in the US. When it was found out one of the Girls that flashed was underage.
- Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas version 1 (PS1/XBOX/PC) - When the PC/Xbox version was released a year after the PS2 version, it was hacked and a Hot Coffee Sex game was found. And players could open it with a hack device. While the PS2 version is common, the Xbox/PC versions are harder to find.
- 2010 FIFA World Cup South Africa (PS3/XB360) - Early copies had a soccer ball that had symbols that where sacred to Middle East Religions and players where kicking it around.
- Lego Lord of the Rings (XB360) - Some copies had the disc labeled "Demo Disc" but it was a full copy.
- Too Human (XB360) - Most recent recalled game, was pulled due to developer using another companies Game Engine and not giving them any credit or royalties.
- X-Men: Distiny (XB360/PS3) - Same reasons as Too Human. (Although I still see this game all the time new) lol
Then there was store exclusive games. These are the Blockbuster Video Ones.
- Hagane (SNES)
- Final Fight Guy (SNES)
- Clay Fighter Tournament Edition (SNES)
- Ren & Stimpy Fire Dogs (SNES)
- Madden Championship Edition (GEN)
- Clay Fighter Sculptor's Cut (N64)
- Stunt Racer (N64)
- Transformers: Beast Wars Transmetals (N64)
- NFL Blitz Special Edition (N64)
- Razor Freestyle Scooter (N64)
- Freestyle Street Soccer (XBOX & NGC)
- Outlaw Golf and Vollyball mini games (XBOX) - there's 3 total (another was given away by Toys R Us)
Then there's games that are rare/valuable due to not many copies of the game was released.
Many Atari 2600 games, they include.
- Air Raid
- Red Sea Crossing (only 2 are known to exist today)
- Gamma Attack (again only a couple copies are known to exist)
- Birthday Mania (this was a game mail ordered game that was personalized to a player)
- Video Life (Was mail ordered only)
- Magicard (another Mail ordered game)
- Quadrun & Sword Quest Waterworld (Only bought through atari club)
- Chase the Chuckwagon (only sold with bags of Dog Food)
- Tooth Protectors (only sold as a promotion for Johnson & Johnson)
- Halloween & Texas Chainsaw Massacre (where to violent for the time)
- The Atari Porno games (only available from mail order)
This list would be way to long but here's some other famous rare games.
- Cheetahmen 2 (NES) this game technically was never released, many copies where found in a warehouse and sold off.
- Flintstones Surprise at Dinosaur Peak - Very limited release, most was found as a rental.
- The 3 "Adult" games on NES. Peek-a-Boo Poker, Hot Slots & Bubble Bath Babes
- Little Samson
- Magical Case (T16)
- Several Neo Geo AES games
With the exception of many on first list, some of the Atari Games, Some AES carts and Magical Chase many of these games do appear on Ebay quite often (just pricey). Some are not even that expensive (some recalled and BB exclusive ones) Try finding a game to an extremely rare game console.
Bandai/Apple Pippin US games
Casio PV1000
Funtech A'Can (I found 1 and never seen one again)
Gizmondo
Tomy Tutor (I was lucky and bought a complete collection)
Most of the games that you listed because they were pulled off the market are actually very common and very inexpensive. There are dozens of copies of Too Human for $7 on Ebay.
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Also, this topic came up on Assembler before and there was agreement that the Blockbuster games aren't really that rare. Either that or people do not care about them as much.
What about what vgcollect's partner, Pricecharting has on their blog?
http://blog.pricecharting.com/
Don't forget about PC games. One I know about is MVP Baseball 2005.
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the vampire diaries for PC in 1995: this game is based on vampire diaries novels and was massive failure for her interactive also there was probably some other problems behind the scene, what make this intriguing for a collector is that her interactive denies making this game and average price for this game is about $400 to $1200 depending on how complete it is
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Xbox:
Metal Wolf Chaos - It's a japanese game for the original Xbox. It was never released in the United States so not may copies were produced. On top of that, it's an extremely over the top satire of the U.S. In the first minute of the game, the U.S. president jumps out of the oval office while piloting a mech as the oval office explodes behind him. It's a really stupid and funny game that's a cult classic. It sells for over $100 used on ebay.
PS2:
Rule of Rose - It sells for over $200 used. It was met with mixed criticism when it first came out and highly controversial because people claimed it sexualized minors and displayed acts of violence against children. Although many have defended the game on the grounds that the sexualization is a very small and minor part of the game. Most people said the controls were horrible (some called it unplayable), in fact the game has a "59" on metacritic. I've never played it but from I've heard it has a great story and has an amazing atmosphere.
Wii:
Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn - Used it sells for over $60 and new it sells for over $170. I've never played it so I couldn't tell you why it's so valuable.
RoR is up to $200? I'm so glad I jumped on one last November. $75. That game is going to be the holy grail of costly PS2 games in the future.
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This thread made me think of a certain PS1 game that isn't really rare. Probably 5 years ago or more, I was browsing a PS1 collecting site and there were several collectors going crazy over a game called Easter Bunny's Big Day just because it was one of the last games ever released. They were buying up every copy of the game they could get a hold of as in investment. Yeah, I don't think obscure and end of life cycle automatically means rare, or valuable. That game is still worth as much as it was 5 years ago, almost nothing.
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This thread made me think of a certain PS1 game that isn't really rare. Probably 5 years ago or more, I was browsing a PS1 collecting site and there were several collectors going crazy over a game called Easter Bunny's Big Day just because it was one of the last games ever released. They were buying up every copy of the game they could get a hold of as in investment. Yeah, I don't think obscure and end of life cycle automatically means rare, or valuable. That game is still worth as much as it was 5 years ago, almost nothing.
This is why game prospecting is so foolish. Even some games that seem like they'd be really valuable some day based on rarity, when they were released, or genre, end up being worth less then their lowest retail price. On the flip side certain games that people would never expect to get valuable completely skyrocket in price. Just because it was a late release game certainly is no reason to assume that it's going to be ultra valuable some day.
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This thread made me think of a certain PS1 game that isn't really rare. Probably 5 years ago or more, I was browsing a PS1 collecting site and there were several collectors going crazy over a game called Easter Bunny's Big Day just because it was one of the last games ever released. They were buying up every copy of the game they could get a hold of as in investment. Yeah, I don't think obscure and end of life cycle automatically means rare, or valuable. That game is still worth as much as it was 5 years ago, almost nothing.
This is why game prospecting is so foolish. Even some games that seem like they'd be really valuable some day based on rarity, when they were released, or genre, end up being worth less then their lowest retail price. On the flip side certain games that people would never expect to get valuable completely skyrocket in price. Just because it was a late release game certainly is no reason to assume that it's going to be ultra valuable some day.
At the end of the day, the only kind of prostpecting I do, is whether or not I have time to wait for a game I actually want. Sometimes I think I'll get around to it. Then when I decide to go ahead a grab it, there has been a spike in price for whatever reason. Doesn't seem to matter if it's new, old, early release, late release, common, rare, it happens to any type of game if there is a desire for it. Look at Earthbound. Not rare, not obscure, not really late, but super desirable.
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This thread made me think of a certain PS1 game that isn't really rare. Probably 5 years ago or more, I was browsing a PS1 collecting site and there were several collectors going crazy over a game called Easter Bunny's Big Day just because it was one of the last games ever released. They were buying up every copy of the game they could get a hold of as in investment. Yeah, I don't think obscure and end of life cycle automatically means rare, or valuable. That game is still worth as much as it was 5 years ago, almost nothing.
This is why game prospecting is so foolish. Even some games that seem like they'd be really valuable some day based on rarity, when they were released, or genre, end up being worth less then their lowest retail price. On the flip side certain games that people would never expect to get valuable completely skyrocket in price. Just because it was a late release game certainly is no reason to assume that it's going to be ultra valuable some day.
Well that's why this thread isn't about seeing which games might net you the biggest return on investment if you buy them now - that's silly, even if we could determine that you'd be better off investing your money in something other than games if you're just looking for profit. This is just about trying to see what games that you might want to actually own/play have a good chance of being hard to find and/or expensive in the future.
At least, that was my understanding of what we were talking about.
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This thread made me think of a certain PS1 game that isn't really rare. Probably 5 years ago or more, I was browsing a PS1 collecting site and there were several collectors going crazy over a game called Easter Bunny's Big Day just because it was one of the last games ever released. They were buying up every copy of the game they could get a hold of as in investment. Yeah, I don't think obscure and end of life cycle automatically means rare, or valuable. That game is still worth as much as it was 5 years ago, almost nothing.
This is why game prospecting is so foolish. Even some games that seem like they'd be really valuable some day based on rarity, when they were released, or genre, end up being worth less then their lowest retail price. On the flip side certain games that people would never expect to get valuable completely skyrocket in price. Just because it was a late release game certainly is no reason to assume that it's going to be ultra valuable some day.
Well that's why this thread isn't about seeing which games might net you the biggest return on investment if you buy them now - that's silly, even if we could determine that you'd be better off investing your money in something other than games if you're just looking for profit. This is just about trying to see what games that you might want to actually own/play have a good chance of being hard to find and/or expensive in the future.
At least, that was my understanding of what we were talking about.
I agree, but I was referring to the people Warmsignal knew that were buying up all those copies of Eater Bunny's Big Day. Obviously their intention wasn't to collect 15-copies of it. They were hoping that it would spike in price some day because it was an obscure, late release game and then cash in on Ebay. Much is the same way people buy certain stocks with the hope that certain market trends will cause them to spike someday and they will be able to get 300% returns on a stocks they paid very little for. I know that the purpose of this thread isn't to find out what cheap PS2 game is suddenly going to be going for $50+ in a few years so we can buy them all up now and sell them later; I know it is to get the Tron Bonnes and the Demon's Crests before they eventually hit the crazy prices these once cheap games used to go for so we can have them for our collections.
I know some game prospectors and I always wonder why they just don't play the stock market, lol it's probably a safer bet anyways.
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Xbox:
Metal Wolf Chaos - It's a japanese game for the original Xbox. It was never released in the United States so not may copies were produced. On top of that, it's an extremely over the top satire of the U.S. In the first minute of the game, the U.S. president jumps out of the oval office while piloting a mech as the oval office explodes behind him. It's a really stupid and funny game that's a cult classic. It sells for over $100 used on ebay.
I've got a sealed copy of this at my store.... Part of me wants to keep it and play it.... But.... Sealed.... :(
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This is why game prospecting is so foolish.
I disagree!
I also think that's a pretty generic & blanket kind of statement to make :o
I'll get just a little bit personal & use myself as an example; 'cuz there's no shame in my game 8)
I'm disabled.
More specifically, due to Dr. & hospital negligence + incompetence...I lost my left hand several years ago to an amputation.
Yeah, I sued their asses -and- yeah, I "won" (if you can put a price tag on one of your hands, that is) :-\
So, here I am...unable to work - while at the same time, being pretty comfortable financially.
I do "game prospecting" :-[ ;)
And, I see absolutely nothing wrong in using my knowledge & past experiences to pick & choose items that (IMO), have a good likelihood of being sold a year or 2 later for significantly more $ than I bought them for.
I mean...it *CAN'T* hurt the business/industry because my goal/accomplishment is to buy any & every damn thing that's gaming-related that I want...w/ the profits I make from my 'prospecting' = all of the money is put back into the industry; while it costs me none (of my own) money to buy and/or play anything that I want...kinda' like "playing with house money", I suppose.
Well that's why this thread isn't about seeing which games might net you the biggest return on investment if you buy them now - that's silly, even if we could determine that you'd be better off investing your money in something other than games if you're just looking for profit. This is just about trying to see what games that you might want to actually own/play have a good chance of being hard to find and/or expensive in the future.
At least, that was my understanding of what we were talking about.
Thank you, Argyle ==> for saving me the time + keystrokes! :P
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This is why game prospecting is so foolish.
I disagree!
I also think that's a pretty generic & blanket kind of statement to make :o
I'll get just a little bit personal & use myself as an example; 'cuz there's no shame in my game 8)
I'm disabled.
More specifically, due to Dr. & hospital negligence + incompetence...I lost my left hand several years ago to an amputation.
Yeah, I sued their asses -and- yeah, I "won" (if you can put a price tag on one of your hands, that is) :-\
So, here I am...unable to work - while at the same time, being pretty comfortable financially.
I do "game prospecting" :-[ ;)
And, I see absolutely nothing wrong in using my knowledge & past experiences to pick & choose items that (IMO), have a good likelihood of being sold a year or 2 later for significantly more $ than I bought them for.
I mean...it *CAN'T* hurt the business/industry because my goal/accomplishment is to buy any & every damn thing that's gaming-related that I want...w/ the profits I make from my 'prospecting' = all of the money is put back into the industry; while it costs me none (of my own) money to buy and/or play anything that I want...kinda' like "playing with house money", I suppose.
Well that's why this thread isn't about seeing which games might net you the biggest return on investment if you buy them now - that's silly, even if we could determine that you'd be better off investing your money in something other than games if you're just looking for profit. This is just about trying to see what games that you might want to actually own/play have a good chance of being hard to find and/or expensive in the future.
At least, that was my understanding of what we were talking about.
Thank you, Argyle ==> for saving me the time + keystrokes! :P
First off I am sorry to hear about that :/. I can't imagine having to lose a body part, especially as a result of someone's mistake.
But most games, will not net you a profit if you buy them retail and try selling them years later. Look at something like Arc the Lad Collection on PS1; the game was releaased nearly 2-year after the PS2 came out, sold in relatively low numbers, and definitely is unique (cool Working Designs item) as well as a good game. It has all the makings of a really valuable game right? It currently sells complete for about what it retailed for. And this is one of the more lucrative examples. The vast majority of games never come close to what they retailed for years down the road, even when sealed. Sure, there are definitely exceptions where a game that was once a bargain title is now worth way more (late release Capcom Dreamcast titles for example), but my point is that the majority of games, even ones that intuitively seem like they'd be worth a ton some day, seldom actually live up to their future perceived value. That is why I said it was foolish.
And my comment that I made before this one says that I realize what the purpose of this thread is. I was addressing Warmsignal's comment about how he knew people trying to buy up every copy they could of that Easter Bunny game (currently charts for under $10) because they all though it's be worth a ton some day because it has "all the signs." We'd all like to find those games that someday will go up dramatically in value before they potentially do so, and being collectors and long time gamers, we are all aware of what types of games typically do this, but these games seldom live up to the high prices we all expect them to go for some day.
Sure there is money to be made with games, I don't argue against that at all either, I just think going out and buying several copies of a certain game new because you think you're going to have a big return on it someday is not the way to go. To one his/her own though.
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@bikingjahuty -
You make some good & true points -and- if I came across as insulting, nasty, or an ass-hole (despite being all of the above; at times:) ==> I didn't mean to 8)
I actually agree with you on your point about (probably) at least 99% of games being "go no-where's".
I guess that I should have been more specific:
I almost never do this w/ vanilla games.
I only do it with LE/CE's that I'm planning on keeping and/or re-selling as still sealed; like
- The Tales of Symphonia LE is out of a run of only 18,000 (w/ each one individually numbered) + it comes jam-packed full of *GOOD* swag &
- The Drakengard III LE (which, if one Argyle didn't help me out & save my ass here)...I would certainly have missed out on & been too late for is, similarly to the above, out of a run of only 5,000.
There's no doubt in my mind that (keeping in mind what some 'lesser' equipped LE's w/ larger print runs (Looking @ the 2 LUNAR CE's here) still sell for); that it would be even possible to *lose* money, unlikely to only double the original cost, unsurprising to triple it, etc, etc...
As another example - for (at least) the last 3 gens, I've bought multiple copies of EVERY single NISA LE (that was released on any of the Playstations, PSP, DS, and/or Vita) -and- (again, still talking only sealed LE's here); not only have I Never lost any $ on a single one of them (the "quality" of the games actually is seemingly irrelevant:) -but- I've doubled, tripled, quadrupled, and beyond...on certainly > 75% of them.
That aside...if the absolute very worst that I've ever done is to break even ==> well then...just like when I leave the casinos = I'm a happy -n- smiling man ;D
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I'll just say the people who buy up Easter Bunny's Big Day are the wacky kind of prospectors. The only people they could hope to corner in the future would be completionist collectors when they suddenly realize they've got every PS1 game on their shelf but EBBD and there are none to buy anywhere. 99% of collectors out there can sleep peacefully knowing they'll never own a game like that. If you're going to scarf up games, you need to make wiser choices than EBBD.