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VGCollect Site Stuff => Site Feedback => Topic started by: cstorm on September 08, 2014, 12:05:19 am
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Using the Price Charting data, it doesn't seem like it would be all that difficult to implement. I wholeheartedly apologize if this feature is already available but I couldn't find it.
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Using the Price Charting data, it doesn't seem like it would be all that difficult to implement. I wholeheartedly apologize if this feature is already available but I couldn't find it.
My guess would be; doubtful.
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I feel like somebody asks this question pretty often. Wasn't there already a thread about this a month or two ago?
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I feel like somebody asks this question pretty often. Wasn't there already a thread about this a month or two ago?
It does sound familiar...
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I feel like somebody asks this question pretty often. Wasn't there already a thread about this a month or two ago?
This question is probably asked at least once per month, but imo it's impossible to do accurately. Pricecharting doesn't have entries for all existing video games, and they do not separate entries between normal/collector's/greatest hits, which all impact a game's value.
In my opinion, if the estimation isn't accurate enough, it's not really worth it. :-\
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I feel like somebody asks this question pretty often. Wasn't there already a thread about this a month or two ago?
This question is probably asked at least once per month, but imo it's impossible to do accurately. Pricecharting doesn't have entries for all existing video games, and they do not separate entries between normal/collector's/greatest hits, which all impact a game's value.
In my opinion, if the estimation isn't accurate enough, it's not really worth it. :-\
c'est vrais!
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I feel like somebody asks this question pretty often. Wasn't there already a thread about this a month or two ago?
This question is probably asked at least once per month, but imo it's impossible to do accurately. Pricecharting doesn't have entries for all existing video games, and they do not separate entries between normal/collector's/greatest hits, which all impact a game's value.
In my opinion, if the estimation isn't accurate enough, it's not really worth it. :-\
c'est vrais!
Oui Monsieur!
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I feel like somebody asks this question pretty often. Wasn't there already a thread about this a month or two ago?
This question is probably asked at least once per month, but imo it's impossible to do accurately. Pricecharting doesn't have entries for all existing video games, and they do not separate entries between normal/collector's/greatest hits, which all impact a game's value.
In my opinion, if the estimation isn't accurate enough, it's not really worth it. :-\
c'est vrais!
Oui Monsieur!
Fermez la bouche, mon ami :P
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I feel like somebody asks this question pretty often. Wasn't there already a thread about this a month or two ago?
This question is probably asked at least once per month, but imo it's impossible to do accurately. Pricecharting doesn't have entries for all existing video games, and they do not separate entries between normal/collector's/greatest hits, which all impact a game's value.
In my opinion, if the estimation isn't accurate enough, it's not really worth it. :-\
c'est vrais!
Oui Monsieur!
Fermez la bouche, mon ami :P
Et noli esse cum Francis
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Ik versta niks van dat frans.
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I believe this is the most popular request we get on this site. It gets brought up all the time. Yet the same regulars again and again keep saying it's not worth it and there's no interest in it.
...history says differently. Obviously there is a LOT of interest in implementing this to the site. But it keeps getting struck down by the vocal minority. Are there at least ways to link to other sites that already do this?
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And who's priceing would VG follow? America, The Netherlands, France, Japan, Australia, Poland?
Different country's have different games they like or dislike. So 1 game can be worth a fortune in America, but worthless in France.
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Just do it manually
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Just do it manually
If you volunteer.
I did something similar on another site where i was a mod. But its impossible to do this by hand. And if for some reason you pull it off, you get the comments from other users that its to high, or to low.
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I believe this is the most popular request we get on this site. It gets brought up all the time. Yet the same regulars again and again keep saying it's not worth it and there's no interest in it.
...history says differently. Obviously there is a LOT of interest in implementing this to the site. But it keeps getting struck down by the vocal minority. Are there at least ways to link to other sites that already do this?
I think that you're 'reading' what these "regulars / vocal minority" (at least *this* regular) is saying the wrong way -
I don't think that it's stupid *OR* that just because I don't care about it = that no one does; more like - because of all of the variables involved + the constantly changing prices + the differing prices for the same game in different areas, etc that IMO, it's just a pointless waste of time to keep asking for (and complaining about the lack of) something that can/will never be able to be implemented in a way that will be accurate for all users in all areas (read: make everybody happy).
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Is it possible? Absolutely. Is it likely? No. We only have one person capable of doing the coding for the site (Matt), and he's busy with other things going on in his life. Also, I'm no programmer so I don't know how all this would work, but I can see this being very hard to implement correctly. We strive to list every known variation of every game, and as far as I know, we are pretty much the only ones doing so. We have occasional problems with the amazon purchasing links because of that.
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Is it possible? Absolutely. Is it likely? No. We only have one person capable of doing the coding for the site (Matt), and he's busy with other things going on in his life. Also, I'm no programmer so I don't know how all this would work, but I can see this being very hard to implement correctly. We strive to list every known variation of every game, and as far as I know, we are pretty much the only ones doing so. We have occasional problems with the amazon purchasing links because of that.
is it possible?
I know nothing about programming but, keep in mind that:
a). we have different users from different countries using different currencies,
b). the exchange rate(s) fluctuate, and
c). the price of a game changes when sealed, cib, not cib, complete vs incomplete LE's, good, fair, poor, average, like new, etc conditions...
...is it really possible to do this & make it accurate for ALL of our members?
No, not *that* member :P
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I believe this is the most popular request we get on this site. It gets brought up all the time. Yet the same regulars again and again keep saying it's not worth it and there's no interest in it.
...history says differently. Obviously there is a LOT of interest in implementing this to the site. But it keeps getting struck down by the vocal minority. Are there at least ways to link to other sites that already do this?
I'm not saying it's not interesting, I'm actually curious about my collection's value, too (for insurance and for fun). But it's really hard work and it's never going to be accurate, so I personally wouldn't want to work on making this work :P
If someone ever finds a website that lists value for all games and all variations, and gets updated very regularly, then I think it could be worth it. So if someone finds that hidden gem of a website, please come forward :P
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If we already went through this kind post multiple times why are we still lingering on "im interested but im not willing to put time in something trivial as researching the price for each individual games due to multiple factors". Its ether you do it or not... it's easy as that.
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If we already went through this kind post multiple times why are we still lingering on "im interested but im not willing to put time in something trivial as researching the price for each individual games due to multiple factors". Its ether you do it or not... it's easy as that.
I don't know if Matt ever voiced his opinion on that, but I haven't seen him do so. And if he really didn't, well... we're kinda "arguing" for nothing, since he's the one programming, and so he has the final word on things :P
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If we already went through this kind post multiple times why are we still lingering on "im interested but im not willing to put time in something trivial as researching the price for each individual games due to multiple factors". Its ether you do it or not... it's easy as that.
I don't know if Matt ever voiced his opinion on that, but I haven't seen him do so. And if he really didn't, well... we're kinda "arguing" for nothing, since he's the one programming, and so he has the final word on things :P
Honestly, I dont think an auto price chart is a top priority. It will be nice to have but it's not necessary. It's a lot of work for 1 programmer (Matt) to make just because of a couple people didn't want to individually price their collection because it was tedious or too many things. I would rather have things that will further grow the community by making communication easier with a chat box, simplifying parts of search function and give it more fluidity, better method of selling and buying, some kind of trust mechanism for newcomer (so scamming doesn't occur), and etc. These are not easy options ether but I feel like they are more benefical, however these are my opinion so take with a grain of salt.
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Some entries already have PriceCharting plugged into them. (Example here (http://vgcollect.com/item/2685)) Some have Amazon, some have PriceCharting, some have nothing. I'm not sure how it's set up but I know it's automatic. If the site recognizes something it'll add a link. It's kind of all over the place. I think it would be neat if we can enter a URL from PriceCharting and the site could draw that information and place it into the Value/Price field.
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Some entries already have PriceCharting plugged into them. (Example here (http://vgcollect.com/item/2685)) Some have Amazon, some have PriceCharting, some have nothing. I'm not sure how it's set up but I know it's automatic. If the site recognizes something it'll add a link. It's kind of all over the place. I think it would be neat if we can enter a URL from PriceCharting and the site could draw that information and place it into the Value/Price field.
From what Im getting from this conversation is that everyone else wants something that automatically inserts the price without having to manually add the price for it & adds all of the price for a overall valuation of there collection that also automatically keep up with the fluctuation.
I see the link but some of them dont link accurately... The amazon link for the doom game you linked goes to a skylander figure...
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Some entries already have PriceCharting plugged into them. (Example here (http://vgcollect.com/item/2685)) Some have Amazon, some have PriceCharting, some have nothing. I'm not sure how it's set up but I know it's automatic. If the site recognizes something it'll add a link. It's kind of all over the place. I think it would be neat if we can enter a URL from PriceCharting and the site could draw that information and place it into the Value/Price field.
I noticed that, and that was a great step in that direction. I just wish there was some way for the site to give you a running total. Yeah, we can figure it out ourselves as suggested, but it's a lot easier to have the figure staring at you than it is to add-up 100s (1000s in some users' cases) games individually.
We already have pie-charts and bar-graphs and such that do running totals for other stats in your collection. And we already have VideoGame Chart prices. So to me, it wouldn't seem that hard to implement since all the pieces are already here, just not put together.
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Some entries already have PriceCharting plugged into them. (Example here (http://vgcollect.com/item/2685)) Some have Amazon, some have PriceCharting, some have nothing. I'm not sure how it's set up but I know it's automatic. If the site recognizes something it'll add a link. It's kind of all over the place. I think it would be neat if we can enter a URL from PriceCharting and the site could draw that information and place it into the Value/Price field.
I noticed that, and that was a great step in that direction. I just wish there was some way for the site to give you a running total. Yeah, we can figure it out ourselves as suggested, but it's a lot easier to have the figure staring at you than it is to add-up 100s (1000s in some users' cases) games individually.
We already have pie-charts and bar-graphs and such that do running totals for other stats in your collection. And we already have VideoGame Chart prices. So to me, it wouldn't seem that hard to implement since all the pieces are already here, just not put together.
Well this is up to Matt. Im done with this topic for now.
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I believe this is the most popular request we get on this site. It gets brought up all the time. Yet the same regulars again and again keep saying it's not worth it and there's no interest in it.
...history says differently. Obviously there is a LOT of interest in implementing this to the site. But it keeps getting struck down by the vocal minority. Are there at least ways to link to other sites that already do this?
I'm not saying it's not interesting, I'm actually curious about my collection's value, too (for insurance and for fun). But it's really hard work and it's never going to be accurate, so I personally wouldn't want to work on making this work :P
If someone ever finds a website that lists value for all games and all variations, and gets updated very regularly, then I think it could be worth it. So if someone finds that hidden gem of a website, please come forward :P
Yeah.
Someone (who's been here longer than me, correct me if I'm wrong) but, my understanding has always been that the goal/"mission statement" for this site has been to simply be a place for listing as many variants of as many games (and other gaming stuff) as possible for users to be able to keep track of their collections.
The fact that we've lucked out w/ a marketplace that has had an excellent success & satisfaction rate (relative to the # of transactions/trades done) and that we've grown and attracted a pretty awesome community of users, regulars, and staff is (as is anything & everything else)...
...just gravy 8)
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Pretty much, yeah. And earlier when I said it was possible, I meant it in a "anything is possible" sort of way. I would be geuinely shocked if this was pursued at all.
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Some entries already have PriceCharting plugged into them. (Example here (http://vgcollect.com/item/2685)) Some have Amazon, some have PriceCharting, some have nothing. I'm not sure how it's set up but I know it's automatic. If the site recognizes something it'll add a link. It's kind of all over the place. I think it would be neat if we can enter a URL from PriceCharting and the site could draw that information and place it into the Value/Price field.
I noticed that, and that was a great step in that direction. I just wish there was some way for the site to give you a running total. Yeah, we can figure it out ourselves as suggested, but it's a lot easier to have the figure staring at you than it is to add-up 100s (1000s in some users' cases) games individually.
We already have pie-charts and bar-graphs and such that do running totals for other stats in your collection. And we already have VideoGame Chart prices. So to me, it wouldn't seem that hard to implement since all the pieces are already here, just not put together.
Woah! Hold up.
I knew about the pie chart.
But what's this I hear about a bar chart?
When the hell did this happen and why am I always the last to know!?
:)
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Yeah what are you hiding from us Burningdoom!
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I, uh, may have been thinking of RFGeneration.
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I, uh, may have been thinking of RFGeneration.
Now Biff! Don't con me!
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Some entries already have PriceCharting plugged into them. (Example here (http://vgcollect.com/item/2685)) Some have Amazon, some have PriceCharting, some have nothing. I'm not sure how it's set up but I know it's automatic. If the site recognizes something it'll add a link. It's kind of all over the place. I think it would be neat if we can enter a URL from PriceCharting and the site could draw that information and place it into the Value/Price field.
I noticed that, and that was a great step in that direction. I just wish there was some way for the site to give you a running total. Yeah, we can figure it out ourselves as suggested, but it's a lot easier to have the figure staring at you than it is to add-up 100s (1000s in some users' cases) games individually.
We already have pie-charts and bar-graphs and such that do running totals for other stats in your collection. And we already have VideoGame Chart prices. So to me, it wouldn't seem that hard to implement since all the pieces are already here, just not put together.
Woah! Hold up.
I knew about the pie chart.
But what's this I hear about a bar chart?
When the hell did this happen and why am I always the last to know!?
:)
I *think* that there is (or was) a bar graph/chart that showed what times of the day you visited the site the most...?
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I, uh, may have been thinking of RFGeneration.
Now Biff! Don't con me!
The pie-chart is still there:
http://vgcollect.com/about/BurningDoom (http://vgcollect.com/about/BurningDoom)
I just could have sworn there was a bar-graph too, which what I must have been mixing up with RFGeneration (I used to use that site until I came here).
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I would very much like to see this feature, for pretty much the same reasons as have already been suggested. It would be extremely helpful for insurance purposes as well as just satisfying my curiosity. And I really don't care if it's 100% accurate as long as it gives me a pretty good idea of the replacement cost, although it might help to indicate what percentage of game/hardware pricing data is available.
I would guess that the pricing data could be significantly improved if everything had a barcode, since PriceCharting and Amazon both let you search for that. That's something I would be happy to work on for my own collection at least, but it would help to have an export that included the barcode field and pricing so I could see what's missing.
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I, uh, may have been thinking of RFGeneration.
Now Biff! Don't con me!
The pie-chart is still there:
http://vgcollect.com/about/BurningDoom (http://vgcollect.com/about/BurningDoom)
I just could have sworn there was a bar-graph too, which what I must have been mixing up with RFGeneration (I used to use that site until I came here).
Forgot about the forums bargraph. Here is your bargraph (http://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;area=statistics;u=3205)
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Real- time price calculations are gonna be hard to implement because of the constantly changing data, and finding a reliable source for current price info that reflects actual cost value. For example, akai katana(x360) says its $5.51 in estimate value, but I'm assuming that's disk only since complete copies are around the $11-14 w/o shipping for the regular edition. Amazon is ok for some price data, but on other items the price data is totally off when coming to used or new copies. So in order to program real time price calculation will be a huge undertaking to implement the site and something that's probably not gonna happen anytime soon, so just put your price you paid for games to calculate your collection prices, and compare to the going rate from multiple sites to make sure the actual value of your items are correct.
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Any game on this site with an Estimated Value is pulled from PriceCharting.com, which tracks a number of sources to get a fairly reasonable value for each item over time. They already provide values for loose, CIB and new versions of each item. The Doom (http://vgcollect.com/item/2685) example posted earlier includes both PriceCharting and Amazon data. Although looking at that and a few other titles, they seem to be using loose pricing from January so I'm not sure if that's being kept up to date.
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Bumpin for more supports! :D
GameCube Collector on the Apple App Store already does this, so i would reeeeallly like it here too T_T <3
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Im going to pipe in on this thread and say that this is pretty much a no. As Disgaeniac already mentioned, the main goal of this site is to catalog all games/hardware/accessories and variants. Those do not change from day to day. Estimated value of this and that fluctuates at a crazy rate and we just do not have the time or manpower to keep 24/7 track of this.
If you are curious on what your collection is worth, just look at http://videogames.pricecharting.com/ and write down every item and hit your calculator.
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Im going to pipe in on this thread and say that this is pretty much a no. As Disgaeniac already mentioned, the main goal of this site is to catalog all games/hardware/accessories and variants. Those do not change from day to day. Estimated value of this and that fluctuates at a crazy rate and we just do not have the time or manpower to keep 24/7 track of this.
If you are curious on what your collection is worth, just look at http://videogames.pricecharting.com/ and write down every item and hit your calculator.
QFT!
...and, 'cuz I've got a bit of a *thing* for señor soera :-[
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Im going to pipe in on this thread and say that this is pretty much a no. As Disgaeniac already mentioned, the main goal of this site is to catalog all games/hardware/accessories and variants. Those do not change from day to day. Estimated value of this and that fluctuates at a crazy rate and we just do not have the time or manpower to keep 24/7 track of this.
If you are curious on what your collection is worth, just look at http://videogames.pricecharting.com/ and write down every item and hit your calculator.
QFT!
...and, 'cuz I've got a bit of a *thing* for señor soera :-[
No need for a sad face. :D
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Im going to pipe in on this thread and say that this is pretty much a no. As Disgaeniac already mentioned, the main goal of this site is to catalog all games/hardware/accessories and variants. Those do not change from day to day. Estimated value of this and that fluctuates at a crazy rate and we just do not have the time or manpower to keep 24/7 track of this.
If you are curious on what your collection is worth, just look at http://videogames.pricecharting.com/ and write down every item and hit your calculator.
QFT!
...and, 'cuz I've got a bit of a *thing* for señor soera :-[
No need for a sad face. :D
That's not a sad face, brah...it's the "Oh my!" (shy & embarrassed) one :-*
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Ahhh that works then. 8) 8) :-* :-*
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Ahhh that works then. 8) 8) :-* :-*
It's all good, baby ;)