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Title: Which system is it better for?
Post by: silversyx on February 26, 2015, 10:54:28 pm
I have always wondered which games are better for which system when they are mulitplats. Is Tomb Raider 4 best on PSone or Dreamcast? Is Sonic 06 worse on PS3 or 360? How do you guys decide which system to get a game for?
Title: Re: Which system is it better for?
Post by: fighterpilot562 on February 26, 2015, 11:06:32 pm
When it came to ps3/360 ps2/xbox. ill get it for PS since they are the ones i prefer playing on and the ones normally plugged in
Title: Re: Which system is it better for?
Post by: topspot123 on February 26, 2015, 11:07:32 pm
I will generally do a bit of research on the matter before purchase.  There is often times a better version on a certain system.  That could be due to game performance, or exclusive features.  That is the one I generally try to get.

But when all other things are equal, I use different criteria to decide.  Like which controller I might prefer, free multiplayer (ps3), or maybe I just need more games for a certain system. 
Title: Re: Which system is it better for?
Post by: tafk on February 26, 2015, 11:10:25 pm
Get both because I'm like that lol...
Title: Re: Which system is it better for?
Post by: argyle on February 26, 2015, 11:14:50 pm
Nine times out of 10 the differences are so minuscule that you will never notice them unless they are running side by side. So I always buy the game for my favorite platform, Sony. To me, controller preference / eco system preferences / etc. trump any minor differences.
Title: Re: Which system is it better for?
Post by: betelgeuse on February 26, 2015, 11:31:14 pm
Nine times out of 10 the differences are so minuscule that you will never notice them unless they are running side by side. So I always buy the game for my favorite platform, Sony. To me, controller preference / eco system preferences / etc. trump any minor differences.

This ^

IMO the only system that truly had a huge difference was the Saturn with its fighting games and no load time due to the ram cart over the Playstation.

The other would be a trade off for better sound and FMV on Playstation vs. no load time on N64
Title: Re: Which system is it better for?
Post by: asmodean on February 27, 2015, 02:24:40 am
This question used to be more interesting during the 8bit/16bit-eras since the games developed for the different platform were often developed by totally different developers (and sometimes different publishers). Since the different 8bit/16bit systems also contained very different HW the implementation of the games could be, really really different. Some games could be awesome on one platform, and totally suck on another platform.

Today it seems that the only difference between platforms you get are some pixels less in resolution and some less FPS on one or the other platform. Essentially, the differences today are tiny compared to how things used to be
Title: Re: Which system is it better for?
Post by: kamikazekeeg on February 27, 2015, 02:43:01 am
It's rare in the past couple generations to find one that is worse than the other.  I actually just watched a video where The World is Not Enough on N64 is an entirely different game on PS1.  A lot of it comes down to stability and performance.  Then it's about if it has anything unique to that platform.  Like Resident Evil 4 is a better game on the PS2 I think compared to the GC version, since it has more content.  I believe Skyrim on the PS3 had some serious issues in comparison to the 360 or PC.
Title: Re: Which system is it better for?
Post by: badATchaos on February 27, 2015, 07:50:35 am
PC > everything else
Long live the PC Master Race!
Title: Re: Which system is it better for?
Post by: gf78 on February 27, 2015, 11:37:34 am
For me, my "ecosystem" of choice trumps any minor technical differences.  Since I am a "Sony is #1" guy, I try to get all games for those platforms.  If it is a game like Tekken Tag 2, I will undoubtedly purchase it for a PlayStation without question because I have Tekken 1-6, Tag, etc. all on PlayStation. 

That's not to say I would never pick up Tekken Tag 2 for the Wii U if it was a cheap price.  It would just be a fun game for that system.  But my "collection" of that series would remain complete and whole on PlayStation.   :P
Title: Re: Which system is it better for?
Post by: fighterpilot562 on February 27, 2015, 11:53:16 am
PC > everything else
Long live the PC Master Race!

Where is the ignore list.  ;D
Title: Re: Which system is it better for?
Post by: badATchaos on February 27, 2015, 12:03:02 pm
PC > everything else
Long live the PC Master Race!
Where is the ignore list.  ;D

 :'(
Title: Re: Which system is it better for?
Post by: desocietas on February 27, 2015, 12:58:20 pm
I will usually do some research to see if there's any noticeable difference.  Usually there isn't, but I know for some games, there were key differences.

The PS3 version Star Ocean: The Last Hope, for instance, was the international version and included both Japanese and English voices as well as exclusive content.

And then there was the infamous PS3 port of Bayonetta...
Title: Re: Which system is it better for?
Post by: burningdoom on February 27, 2015, 01:03:00 pm
Out of modern consoles, I'd say that generally the Wii U version (if there is one) is often the best due to the GamePad options that often come with it.

But other than that, a lot of modern games are just straight ports. It's not like it was in the day with Sega Genesis and SNES where there would often be two completely different versions of a game.
Title: Re: Which system is it better for?
Post by: gf78 on February 27, 2015, 01:34:28 pm
Out of modern consoles, I'd say that generally the Wii U version (if there is one) is often the best due to the GamePad options that often come with it.

But other than that, a lot of modern games are just straight ports. It's not like it was in the day with Sega Genesis and SNES where there would often be two completely different versions of a game.

With the exception of games in the first six months, there pretty much aren't any Wii U "versions" anymore.  Such a shame.  It's a good system and the tablet/controller gets a bad rap.  Aside from the usual first party stuff, I'm almost assuredly going to get Devil's Third.  In part because Nintendo is publishing it, in part because Tomonobu Itagaki is the director and in part because well...there isn't all that much on the way.   :'(
Title: Re: Which system is it better for?
Post by: burningdoom on February 27, 2015, 02:01:32 pm
Out of modern consoles, I'd say that generally the Wii U version (if there is one) is often the best due to the GamePad options that often come with it.

But other than that, a lot of modern games are just straight ports. It's not like it was in the day with Sega Genesis and SNES where there would often be two completely different versions of a game.

With the exception of games in the first six months, there pretty much aren't any Wii U "versions" anymore.  Such a shame.  It's a good system and the tablet/controller gets a bad rap.  Aside from the usual first party stuff, I'm almost assuredly going to get Devil's Third.  In part because Nintendo is publishing it, in part because Tomonobu Itagaki is the director and in part because well...there isn't all that much on the way.   :'(

There's been some third-party support for the Wii U: Zombi U, Watch Dogs, Ninja Gaiden 3, Assassin's Creed, Call of Duty, Batman Arkham games, Sonic games. Not as much as PS4 or Xbox One, but it seems to be more promising than the last couple of Nintendo consoles.
Title: Re: Which system is it better for?
Post by: insektmute on February 27, 2015, 03:01:33 pm
We've tried this sort of topic before, but it doesn't really pan out. People always add a subjective element to their perspective, get caught up in trading falsehoods propagated by console war types, so on and so forth.

If you dig up 'slimm head to head', he keeps a pretty good list for newer games that's been handy for deciding which version to go with.
Title: Re: Which system is it better for?
Post by: gf78 on February 27, 2015, 03:49:13 pm
Out of modern consoles, I'd say that generally the Wii U version (if there is one) is often the best due to the GamePad options that often come with it.

But other than that, a lot of modern games are just straight ports. It's not like it was in the day with Sega Genesis and SNES where there would often be two completely different versions of a game.

With the exception of games in the first six months, there pretty much aren't any Wii U "versions" anymore.  Such a shame.  It's a good system and the tablet/controller gets a bad rap.  Aside from the usual first party stuff, I'm almost assuredly going to get Devil's Third.  In part because Nintendo is publishing it, in part because Tomonobu Itagaki is the director and in part because well...there isn't all that much on the way.   :'(

There's been some third-party support for the Wii U: Zombi U, Watch Dogs, Ninja Gaiden 3, Assassin's Creed, Call of Duty, Batman Arkham games, Sonic games. Not as much as PS4 or Xbox One, but it seems to be more promising than the last couple of Nintendo consoles.

All of those games you listed with the exception of Watch Dogs and Sonic were pretty much launch titles.  EA, Activision, WB and Ubisoft pretty much dropped the Wii U like a rock shortly after launch because of low sales.  I mean, why wouldn't people pay full price for games that are already available on PS360 for about half that at this point?   ::)  The Sonic game is so bad it is better left unspoken of and Watch Dogs is well...it's a Ubisoft game that was delayed for many months, leaving it's window of opportunity far behind as everyone already saw what Ubi was trying to pull with the other console versions.
Title: Re: Which system is it better for?
Post by: burningdoom on February 27, 2015, 04:04:15 pm
Out of modern consoles, I'd say that generally the Wii U version (if there is one) is often the best due to the GamePad options that often come with it.

But other than that, a lot of modern games are just straight ports. It's not like it was in the day with Sega Genesis and SNES where there would often be two completely different versions of a game.

With the exception of games in the first six months, there pretty much aren't any Wii U "versions" anymore.  Such a shame.  It's a good system and the tablet/controller gets a bad rap.  Aside from the usual first party stuff, I'm almost assuredly going to get Devil's Third.  In part because Nintendo is publishing it, in part because Tomonobu Itagaki is the director and in part because well...there isn't all that much on the way.   :'(

There's been some third-party support for the Wii U: Zombi U, Watch Dogs, Ninja Gaiden 3, Assassin's Creed, Call of Duty, Batman Arkham games, Sonic games. Not as much as PS4 or Xbox One, but it seems to be more promising than the last couple of Nintendo consoles.

All of those games you listed with the exception of Watch Dogs and Sonic were pretty much launch titles.  EA, Activision, WB and Ubisoft pretty much dropped the Wii U like a rock shortly after launch because of low sales.  I mean, why wouldn't people pay full price for games that are already available on PS360 for about half that at this point?   ::)  The Sonic game is so bad it is better left unspoken of and Watch Dogs is well...it's a Ubisoft game that was delayed for many months, leaving it's window of opportunity far behind as everyone already saw what Ubi was trying to pull with the other console versions.

Well I'm keeping the flame of hope alive for Wii U. I'm absolutely loving my Wii U and can't imagine why other people wouldn't be. I will support any third-party efforts that interest me. I already have Hyrule Warriors and Zombi U. Watch Dogs is the next thing I'm getting when I get paid.
Title: Re: Which system is it better for?
Post by: davifus on February 27, 2015, 04:19:42 pm
PC > everything else
Long live the PC Master Race!

Huzzah!
Title: Re: Which system is it better for?
Post by: gf78 on February 27, 2015, 10:11:04 pm
Out of modern consoles, I'd say that generally the Wii U version (if there is one) is often the best due to the GamePad options that often come with it.

But other than that, a lot of modern games are just straight ports. It's not like it was in the day with Sega Genesis and SNES where there would often be two completely different versions of a game.

With the exception of games in the first six months, there pretty much aren't any Wii U "versions" anymore.  Such a shame.  It's a good system and the tablet/controller gets a bad rap.  Aside from the usual first party stuff, I'm almost assuredly going to get Devil's Third.  In part because Nintendo is publishing it, in part because Tomonobu Itagaki is the director and in part because well...there isn't all that much on the way.   :'(

There's been some third-party support for the Wii U: Zombi U, Watch Dogs, Ninja Gaiden 3, Assassin's Creed, Call of Duty, Batman Arkham games, Sonic games. Not as much as PS4 or Xbox One, but it seems to be more promising than the last couple of Nintendo consoles.

All of those games you listed with the exception of Watch Dogs and Sonic were pretty much launch titles.  EA, Activision, WB and Ubisoft pretty much dropped the Wii U like a rock shortly after launch because of low sales.  I mean, why wouldn't people pay full price for games that are already available on PS360 for about half that at this point?   ::)  The Sonic game is so bad it is better left unspoken of and Watch Dogs is well...it's a Ubisoft game that was delayed for many months, leaving it's window of opportunity far behind as everyone already saw what Ubi was trying to pull with the other console versions.

Well I'm keeping the flame of hope alive for Wii U. I'm absolutely loving my Wii U and can't imagine why other people wouldn't be. I will support any third-party efforts that interest me. I already have Hyrule Warriors and Zombi U. Watch Dogs is the next thing I'm getting when I get paid.

I love the Wii U, but it's depressing when a super game like Bayonetta 2 that even included an enhanced version of the first game for free sold like crap. It's criminal. I picked up Captain Toad and the NES Remix the day they came out, but I think they've sold pretty poorly as well. What a shame as they were both low priced and friggin excellent.  :'(
Title: Re: Which system is it better for?
Post by: foxhack on February 27, 2015, 10:15:50 pm
PC > everything else
Long live the PC Master Race!

::)

As a PC player, I hate that stupid master race crap. :P And trust me, there's a lot of modern PC ports that should've remained on consoles - or at least had someone competent work on them.
Title: Re: Which system is it better for?
Post by: olly88 on February 27, 2015, 10:40:25 pm
Usually;

- I'll get the SNES version over the Mega Drive because I prefer the console and controller, and would rather have a bigger library of SNES games. Mega Drive games are much cheaper though, so occasionally I'll get it on that instead.
- Xbox 360 over the PS3 because... I don't know why, I've just started to prefer it that way in the last year or two. It used to be the other way round though, actually.
- Gamecube over the PS2 and Xbox in the rare occasion that the versions are all the same price.
- And finally, I've recently decided that when possible I'll get the Xbox version over the PS2 because the PAL PS2 spines are really boring. I only have an Xbox 360 though, so if the system isn't backwards compatible for a particular game, then obviously I'll get it on the PS2.

Of course this is just when I want a particular game, if I'm out and see a game that interests me I'll get it no matter what system it's on.
Title: Re: Which system is it better for?
Post by: abe on February 28, 2015, 12:36:54 pm
For me it's something like this:
-PS4 over Xbone, since I only have a PS4. :P
-PS3 over 360, unless it's an FPS, then I'll get it for the 360 if it's the same price or cheaper.
-The Wii is at the bottom of the list for multiplatform titles in the 7th generation because the Wii version tends to add some stupid gimmicky control scheme. I tend to stick to only buying exclusives when it comes to Wii games.
-PS2 over GCN, only because PS2 games tend to be cheaper. That being said, I will gladly buy the GameCube version if it's cheaper or close to the same price. I still love my GameCube.
-PS1 over N64, if I actually regularly bought games for these systems. Right now I only have one game for each. :'(
-PS Vita over 3DS, though there aren't too many games that it would apply to. Conception II is the only one I can think of off the top of my head, and I don't even have that yet. :P
-PSP over DS, like with the current gen of handhelds, this rarely applies.
Title: Re: Which system is it better for?
Post by: maximo310 on February 28, 2015, 07:50:52 pm
8th gen- Wii U since that's all I have at the moment
7th gen- I'll pick up the game for the system if its runs quite a bit better than the other, and/or has interesting exclusive content that other versions did not get, and cheap. So far, its pretty much been with the Wii for exclusives and extra benefits of those versions( plus its usually the cheapest by a good margin for most games), followed PS3 for exclusives and most games after 2010, and Xbox 360 for exclusives and most games from 2005-2010.
6th gen- Gamecube, since I'm going for a complete set, followed by Xbox for best multiplats, and PS2 for exclusives. Dreamcast for exclusives.
5th gen- PS1 for most stuff, Saturn and N64 for mostly exclusives
4th gen- SNES over Genesis
Handhelds: 3DS over PS Vita, just because of price for games, and I don't have a Vita yet( probably get for exclusives)
DS over PSP due mostly to the amount of genres+ games available, but both are pretty close because of their amazing libraries
Title: Re: Which system is it better for?
Post by: stethebubble on March 01, 2015, 09:39:35 pm
i think sonic 06 is worse on my tv because it means im playing that awful game.
Title: Re: Which system is it better for?
Post by: stethebubble on March 01, 2015, 09:41:14 pm
Out of modern consoles, I'd say that generally the Wii U version (if there is one) is often the best due to the GamePad options that often come with it.

But other than that, a lot of modern games are just straight ports. It's not like it was in the day with Sega Genesis and SNES where there would often be two completely different versions of a game.

With the exception of games in the first six months, there pretty much aren't any Wii U "versions" anymore.  Such a shame.  It's a good system and the tablet/controller gets a bad rap.  Aside from the usual first party stuff, I'm almost assuredly going to get Devil's Third.  In part because Nintendo is publishing it, in part because Tomonobu Itagaki is the director and in part because well...there isn't all that much on the way.   :'(

There's been some third-party support for the Wii U: Zombi U, Watch Dogs, Ninja Gaiden 3, Assassin's Creed, Call of Duty, Batman Arkham games, Sonic games. Not as much as PS4 or Xbox One, but it seems to be more promising than the last couple of Nintendo consoles.

All of those games you listed with the exception of Watch Dogs and Sonic were pretty much launch titles.  EA, Activision, WB and Ubisoft pretty much dropped the Wii U like a rock shortly after launch because of low sales.  I mean, why wouldn't people pay full price for games that are already available on PS360 for about half that at this point?   ::)  The Sonic game is so bad it is better left unspoken of and Watch Dogs is well...it's a Ubisoft game that was delayed for many months, leaving it's window of opportunity far behind as everyone already saw what Ubi was trying to pull with the other console versions.

Well I'm keeping the flame of hope alive for Wii U. I'm absolutely loving my Wii U and can't imagine why other people wouldn't be. I will support any third-party efforts that interest me. I already have Hyrule Warriors and Zombi U. Watch Dogs is the next thing I'm getting when I get paid.

I love the Wii U, but it's depressing when a super game like Bayonetta 2 that even included an enhanced version of the first game for free sold like crap. It's criminal. I picked up Captain Toad and the NES Remix the day they came out, but I think they've sold pretty poorly as well. What a shame as they were both low priced and friggin excellent.  :'(

i will get both of them some day
Title: Re: Which system is it better for?
Post by: amauriel on March 02, 2015, 09:19:39 am
I don't think you see this much anymore, but back in the day some games were just better on other consoles. For example, I seem to keep getting the game Out of this Word (Another World in Europe) because every version is just a bit different. The 3DO version has some scenes others just don't have, but the scenes break the canon of the game a bit, as Interplay handled the port without a lot of direct input from the original team. It really was a different experience on each and every system it was released for.

Today, I think it becomes just a console war, like we're seeing here. There aren't completely different ports like that any more.
Title: Re: Which system is it better for?
Post by: gf78 on March 02, 2015, 12:29:08 pm
I don't think you see this much anymore, but back in the day some games were just better on other consoles. For example, I seem to keep getting the game Out of this Word (Another World in Europe) because every version is just a bit different. The 3DO version has some scenes others just don't have, but the scenes break the canon of the game a bit, as Interplay handled the port without a lot of direct input from the original team. It really was a different experience on each and every system it was released for.

Today, I think it becomes just a console war, like we're seeing here. There aren't completely different ports like that any more.

Aladdin was a lot like that.  The SNES game was made by Capcom.  It was ok, but nothing close to the Genesis game which looked exactly like (as far as game graphics could in those days) the movie.  Completely different games based on the same property.
Title: Re: Which system is it better for?
Post by: badATchaos on March 02, 2015, 06:31:40 pm
PC > everything else
Long live the PC Master Race!

::)
As a PC player, I hate that stupid master race crap. :P And trust me, there's a lot of modern PC ports that should've remained on consoles - or at least had someone competent work on them.

Yeah... I was just being snarky. I know what you mean but BAD ports. The worst I've played in recently memory was Dead Space. Controls were shit awful.
Title: Re: Which system is it better for?
Post by: azure on March 03, 2015, 08:12:13 am
Nine times out of 10 the differences are so minuscule that you will never notice them unless they are running side by side. So I always buy the game for my favorite platform, Sony. To me, controller preference / eco system preferences / etc. trump any minor differences.
^^^ This. There are some cases, Sonic Heros comes to mind. The Gamecube version is slightly better than the PS2 version and while I don't own it like I do the others I've heard the Xbox port was awful with frame rate and such.
Title: Re: Which system is it better for?
Post by: maximo310 on March 03, 2015, 09:42:11 pm
Nine times out of 10 the differences are so minuscule that you will never notice them unless they are running side by side. So I always buy the game for my favorite platform, Sony. To me, controller preference / eco system preferences / etc. trump any minor differences.
^^^ This. There are some cases, Sonic Heros comes to mind. The Gamecube version is slightly better than the PS2 version and while I don't own it like I do the others I've heard the Xbox port was awful with frame rate and such.
That's not exactly true. The game runs on a modified Sonic Adventure 2 engine, and the Gamecube version is considered the best because its very stable( 60 fps) and has the best shadows, while the Xbox has better resolution and sound options and is very good. The PS2 port is pretty bad, with sub 30fps most of the time, graphical glitches, loading times, etc., and one can tell that the game was not originally suited with the PS2 in mind and the port seems rushed. The only reason Sega released this game on the PS2 was that apparently Sony threatened to bar them from publishing anymore games on their system if there was no PS2 Sonic Heroes port.
Title: Re: Which system is it better for?
Post by: azure on March 04, 2015, 08:10:16 am
Nine times out of 10 the differences are so minuscule that you will never notice them unless they are running side by side. So I always buy the game for my favorite platform, Sony. To me, controller preference / eco system preferences / etc. trump any minor differences.
^^^ This. There are some cases, Sonic Heros comes to mind. The Gamecube version is slightly better than the PS2 version and while I don't own it like I do the others I've heard the Xbox port was awful with frame rate and such.
That's not exactly true. The game runs on a modified Sonic Adventure 2 engine, and the Gamecube version is considered the best because its very stable( 60 fps) and has the best shadows, while the Xbox has better resolution and sound options and is very good. The PS2 port is pretty bad, with sub 30fps most of the time, graphical glitches, loading times, etc., and one can tell that the game was not originally suited with the PS2 in mind and the port seems rushed. The only reason Sega released this game on the PS2 was that apparently Sony threatened to bar them from publishing anymore games on their system if there was no PS2 Sonic Heroes port.
Really, good to know. Everyone I've talked to said the Xbox was the worst port, yeah the PS2 has some issues. Makes a lot of since the GCN is the best version considering SA2B was made for the GCN especially and Heros is running on a modified version of its engine.
Title: Re: Which system is it better for?
Post by: maximo310 on March 04, 2015, 02:51:19 pm
Nine times out of 10 the differences are so minuscule that you will never notice them unless they are running side by side. So I always buy the game for my favorite platform, Sony. To me, controller preference / eco system preferences / etc. trump any minor differences.
^^^ This. There are some cases, Sonic Heros comes to mind. The Gamecube version is slightly better than the PS2 version and while I don't own it like I do the others I've heard the Xbox port was awful with frame rate and such.
That's not exactly true. The game runs on a modified Sonic Adventure 2 engine, and the Gamecube version is considered the best because its very stable( 60 fps) and has the best shadows, while the Xbox has better resolution and sound options and is very good. The PS2 port is pretty bad, with sub 30fps most of the time, graphical glitches, loading times, etc., and one can tell that the game was not originally suited with the PS2 in mind and the port seems rushed. The only reason Sega released this game on the PS2 was that apparently Sony threatened to bar them from publishing anymore games on their system if there was no PS2 Sonic Heroes port.
Really, good to know. Everyone I've talked to said the Xbox was the worst port, yeah the PS2 has some issues. Makes a lot of since the GCN is the best version considering SA2B was made for the GCN especially and Heros is running on a modified version of its engine.
Yeah, I believe Sega managed to use the same engine for the Xbox version, although the PS2 version uses Renderware, and that port job was done by Sega of America. That PS2 version is pretty rushed, and they really should have taken more time on the port since it has alot of problem that hamper the gameplay experience.  Most of the other Sonic PS2 games like Shadow the Hedgehog, Sonic Riders, and Sonic Unleashed run pretty badly for the most part, so its usually better to pick it up on other platforms, since Sega( and other companies) couldn't find ways to bring out the best of the PS2 performance thanks to its complex architecture.
Title: Re: Which system is it better for?
Post by: burningdoom on March 04, 2015, 04:02:08 pm
^ A good majority of ports had the best version on Xbox that generation. Just one reason why I chose Xbox after Dreamcast went out.
Title: Re: Which system is it better for?
Post by: DreamsDied13101 on March 05, 2015, 03:16:45 pm
It probably just made good business sense to release for the PS2 also. It sold the most units on the PS2 even though it was a travesty.

I remember Sega even had a press release or something detailing that the game was scaled back to 30fps on the playstation. It could just be that Hajime Satomi was getting back at Sony for putting Isao Okawa in the grave. Sega definitely had better ties and working relationships with Nintendo and Microsoft. They even tried to sell out to Microsoft after the Dreamcast went defunct.

Nine times out of 10 the differences are so minuscule that you will never notice them unless they are running side by side. So I always buy the game for my favorite platform, Sony. To me, controller preference / eco system preferences / etc. trump any minor differences.
^^^ This. There are some cases, Sonic Heros comes to mind. The Gamecube version is slightly better than the PS2 version and while I don't own it like I do the others I've heard the Xbox port was awful with frame rate and such.
That's not exactly true. The game runs on a modified Sonic Adventure 2 engine, and the Gamecube version is considered the best because its very stable( 60 fps) and has the best shadows, while the Xbox has better resolution and sound options and is very good. The PS2 port is pretty bad, with sub 30fps most of the time, graphical glitches, loading times, etc., and one can tell that the game was not originally suited with the PS2 in mind and the port seems rushed. The only reason Sega released this game on the PS2 was that apparently Sony threatened to bar them from publishing anymore games on their system if there was no PS2 Sonic Heroes port.