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General and Gaming => General => Topic started by: silversyx on March 01, 2015, 05:33:30 pm
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So I've been wanting an Atari Jaguar super badly. I don't know why and the one game I want for it (Rayman), I can get cheaper on the Saturn or PSone. What is the price range I should expect for buying the console and the games? Is it worth it?
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I hear that it still has a very active homebrew community.
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You may want to read this thread:
http://atariage.com/forums/topic/230410-how-did-the-jaguar-possibly-sell-so-poorly/
I always wanted one so badly. But two decades later I feel like I dodged a bullet. :)
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From what I've read, it's got some pretty good ports of PC games, with its port of Wolfenstein 3D being one of the most notable. As Burningdoom mentioned, it does still have a pretty good homebrew community too. Other than that, I don't know too much about them. I've never played one nor have I seen one in person.
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The used prices have gotten crazy. It's actually easier to collect for TG-16 which is hilarious considering even just 5 years ago you couldn't give one away.
The consoles are fetching $200 on ebay.
The crappy carts fetch $50.
The CD (best and easiest way to play homebrew) are very hard to find and can fetch $100-$300 themselves.
It's actually easier (and cheaper) to collect for the TG-16 or 3DO.
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From what I've read, it's got some pretty good ports of PC games, with its port of Wolfenstein 3D being one of the most notable. As Burningdoom mentioned, it does still have a pretty good homebrew community too. Other than that, I don't know too much about them. I've never played one nor have I seen one in person.
I've heard that there's an Alien vs. Predator game on there that's pretty good.
I don't know anything about the Jaguar, really, except for what I've watched on YouTube. But I thought that it was supposed to be hard to find a working one? Or maybe that was just a CD attachment or something.
In any case, let us know what you end up doing! :D
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i have always wanted one of these and i have no idea why. i heard its a poor system
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There's a system with all the hookups (with RF) for $150, the game Rayman (loose) for $70 both on Lukiegames.com, and I'd like to find a composite cable which seems to go for about $25. I just don't know if I want to take the plunge... I would love to have all of that but I wish I could get it all for a bit less than that...
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There's a system with all the hookups (with RF) for $150, the game Rayman (loose) for $70 both on Lukiegames.com, and I'd like to find a composite cable which seems to go for about $25. I just don't know if I want to take the plunge... I would love to have all of that but I wish I could get it all for a bit less than that...
That's as cheap as your going to find it.
It's the CD rom drive that's notorious for breaking down. But honestly that short coming exists for all disc based systems.
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I own a Jaguar and JagCD and it's not the worst system in the world.
Games worth playing (that i've played) are...
Alien vs. Predator
Tempest 2000
Rayman (kinda pricy on Jag)
Zool 2
Defender 2000
Missile Command 3D
Raiden
Wolfenstien
Doom
Some of these are not the best ports, but decent and playable.
As for the JagCD, only if your a die-hard collector, no games on this thing is worth the cost of owning it.
Plus more then half of the CD systems have issues working.
Jaguars are one of those consoles if you can find a deal on one with a bunch of decent games, pick it up. But I wouldn't rush out and pay over $200 just for the console alone.
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There's a system with all the hookups (with RF) for $150, the game Rayman (loose) for $70 both on Lukiegames.com, and I'd like to find a composite cable which seems to go for about $25. I just don't know if I want to take the plunge... I would love to have all of that but I wish I could get it all for a bit less than that...
That's awfully high IMO, especially for an item I can't see in person first. If I saw the system in person, it was in fantastic condition with the box, manuals cables, controller, etc...I might drop $150 on it. Might. And that would be partially based on an impulse buy. Sight unseen with no idea of the condition or if any original materials are with it (more than likely not)? No way. $70 for Rayman is absolutely ridiculous, especially a loose copy that's probably beat all to hell.
I've seen Jaguar's come through the local mom & pop shop occasionally and I think the most they asked for the system with a game was about $75.
If you are seriously wanting one, I would suggest advertising on your local Facebook Buy/Sell/Trade pages (they have them for just about everywhere). Even if one is not listed on their, you can make a "listing" that you are looking for one. You would be surprised at crap people have in their closets collecting dust that they would be more than happy to sell you for $20 or sometimes, even give it away to you.
If you are wanting it to sample the handful of decent games on the system, you can do better elsewhere. The best game was Alien vs. Predator, and an enhanced version of that was released for the PC. Rayman can be had for PC, PlayStation, Saturn, etc. for about $20 for a complete, great condition copy of at least a Greatest Hits version.
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There's a system with all the hookups (with RF) for $150, the game Rayman (loose) for $70 both on Lukiegames.com, and I'd like to find a composite cable which seems to go for about $25. I just don't know if I want to take the plunge... I would love to have all of that but I wish I could get it all for a bit less than that...
That's awfully high IMO, especially for an item I can't see in person first. If I saw the system in person, it was in fantastic condition with the box, manuals cables, controller, etc...I might drop $150 on it. Might. And that would be partially based on an impulse buy. Sight unseen with no idea of the condition or if any original materials are with it (more than likely not)? No way. $70 for Rayman is absolutely ridiculous, especially a loose copy that's probably beat all to hell.
I've seen Jaguar's come through the local mom & pop shop occasionally and I think the most they asked for the system with a game was about $75.
If you are seriously wanting one, I would suggest advertising on your local Facebook Buy/Sell/Trade pages (they have them for just about everywhere). Even if one is not listed on their, you can make a "listing" that you are looking for one. You would be surprised at crap people have in their closets collecting dust that they would be more than happy to sell you for $20 or sometimes, even give it away to you.
If you are wanting it to sample the handful of decent games on the system, you can do better elsewhere. The best game was Alien vs. Predator, and an enhanced version of that was released for the PC. Rayman can be had for PC, PlayStation, Saturn, etc. for about $20 for a complete, great condition copy of at least a Greatest Hits version.
Those a great points and great advice. I'd look around and see if I can find a deal. Thank you!
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Inserting and removing the cartridges is another thing to be very careful of if you buy one of these. It has a top load design that doesn't keep the cartridge very snug. When I play this, I now have to tilt the cartridge forward a bit and put a place holder behind it or the screen freezes up. It seams like this is the only way the pins make contact.
Aliens vs. Predator is probably the best game on the system as others have said. Three story lines, the marine being the most difficult of the three. You're gonna need to make a lot of maps or use a guide for this one. It's very dated by todays standards. Kill an enemy and the body stays in the same direction no matter which way you face (Doom, Wolfenstein style).
IMO the only other must haves are Tempest, Rayman, Raiden, Doom and Wolfenstein. I liked the ports of Rayman, Raiden and Doom better on the Playstation though.
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I'm finding a ton of As-is consoles on eBay for prices I would pay for the actual console. I heard that if they don't power on its because it doesn't detect a game, not because it doesn't work right?
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I'm finding a ton of As-is consoles on eBay for prices I would pay for the actual console. I heard that if they don't power on its because it doesn't detect a game, not because it doesn't work right?
It's true that it won't power on without a game in (or if one isn't detected), but if one doesn't turn on with a game in that doesn't mean that it might not actually just be broken either.
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I'm finding a ton of As-is consoles on eBay for prices I would pay for the actual console. I heard that if they don't power on its because it doesn't detect a game, not because it doesn't work right?
I don't know. An Atari Jaguar isn't a PlayStation or Nintendo console. It's not just some common thing that people that aren't into game collecting just have lying around. I would think that people that own a Jaguar, know exactly how to work the thing. I don't think that they would list it as "as is" unless they knew there was an issue.
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I'm finding a ton of As-is consoles on eBay for prices I would pay for the actual console. I heard that if they don't power on its because it doesn't detect a game, not because it doesn't work right?
The only thing worse than paying a crAzy jacked eBay price for a console you know works is paying what you think is reasonable for a console that very well might not.
One case is a sure thing. The other is a gamble.
Or as Clint Eastwood would say...
Do you feel lucky?
Well, do ya?
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I'm finding a ton of As-is consoles on eBay for prices I would pay for the actual console. I heard that if they don't power on its because it doesn't detect a game, not because it doesn't work right?
The only thing worse than paying a crAzy jacked eBay price for a console you know works is paying what you think is reasonable for a console that very well might not.
One case is a sure thing. The other is a gamble.
Or as Clint Eastwood would say...
Do you feel lucky?
Well, do ya?
Nope! I never feel lucky when gambling XD
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Go back in time about 5~7 years, and the Jaguar was going for only around $50 on eBay. Now it goes for a lot more, as suddenly it became a hot collector's item for some reason. I got mine last year (possibly 2013) with 5 games and I think it was about a hundred bucks. One of the games was Rayman complete in it's box.
These things, I think, are cyclical. I think interest in it will wane eventually as the initial wave loses interest in the consoles and want to unload them, and something else will be the hot collectible. Maybe the Saturn or the GameCube.
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I got the system, cd attachment & several games back in the day when stores decided to dump them. Paid very little for all of it. I kept it for a few years, found a handful of decent to fun games (Defender 2000 being my personal favorite) but in the end I ended up trading it off and honestly have never missed it. I didn't give the kinds of prices you guys are throwing around for it NEW, nor would I have and no the system isn't worth it from a playing standpoint. I guess if you have to have it for your collection then...maybe?
If I were you I'd get Rayman for the PS1 and put the money you saved towards something you'll truly enjoy.
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Rayman on PS1 is pretty common. I agree. Just pick it up for PS1 if you have a way to play it. All PlayStation consoles play PS1 games, BTW.
I hear the two games really worth owning for is Alien vs. Predator and Tempest 2000. But IIRC, Tempest 2000 was also released on Saturn.
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All PlayStation consoles play PS1 games, BTW.
Not the PS4. You can't even play PS1 Classics on the PS4 yet.
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All PlayStation consoles play PS1 games, BTW.
Not the PS4. You can't even play PS1 Classics on the PS4 yet.
Wasn't that PlayStation's selling point for the system over Xbox One at E3? That it was backwards compatible?
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Rayman on PS1 is pretty common. I agree. Just pick it up for PS1 if you have a way to play it. All PlayStation consoles play PS1 games, BTW.
I hear the two games really worth owning for is Alien vs. Predator and Tempest 2000. But IIRC, Tempest 2000 was also released on Saturn.
Tempest is great on the Jaguar. Never knew it came out on the Saturn. I know the Playstation version couldn't touch this one though. Superzapper recharge!!! Can't forget the quote "television is the retina for the minds eye".
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All PlayStation consoles play PS1 games, BTW.
Not the PS4. You can't even play PS1 Classics on the PS4 yet.
Wasn't that PlayStation's selling point for the system over Xbox One at E3? That it was backwards compatible?
They call it "Playstation Now".
Welcome to the generation where you can lease any game you want and pay for it by the hour.
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Okay I'm willing to pay about $100 for a Jaguar Console, the power supply, composite av cables and a controller if anyone finds anything... XD
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All PlayStation consoles play PS1 games, BTW.
Not the PS4. You can't even play PS1 Classics on the PS4 yet.
Wasn't that PlayStation's selling point for the system over Xbox One at E3? That it was backwards compatible?
They call it "Playstation Now".
Welcome to the generation where you can lease any game you want and pay for it by the hour.
Yeah, Playstation Now is a big-ass blemish on an otherwise excellent platform. Sony needs to find a way to make that service not so absurd.
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Well, you can pick up a PS1 for $10, so it's not like playing PS1 games are out of reach if you own a PS4.
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All PlayStation consoles play PS1 games, BTW.
Not the PS4. You can't even play PS1 Classics on the PS4 yet.
Wasn't that PlayStation's selling point for the system over Xbox One at E3? That it was backwards compatible?
No, the selling point was you could buy/trade/play/sell used games because there was no restrictive DRM built into the console. That, and they talked all about games where Microsoft was more about sports, television and side features.
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All PlayStation consoles play PS1 games, BTW.
Not the PS4. You can't even play PS1 Classics on the PS4 yet.
Wasn't that PlayStation's selling point for the system over Xbox One at E3? That it was backwards compatible?
They call it "Playstation Now".
Welcome to the generation where you can lease any game you want and pay for it by the hour.
Yeah, Playstation Now is a big-ass blemish on an otherwise excellent platform. Sony needs to find a way to make that service not so absurd.
No joke, you can get hookers and coke for less than it costs to rent a game for 4 hours.
I may be slightly exaggerating as I've never been a patron of hookers or cocaine but I amagine they are cheaper.
Seriously, some games cost more to rent for 4 hours than they do to buy outright from the playstation store.
The pricing makes no sense.
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All PlayStation consoles play PS1 games, BTW.
Not the PS4. You can't even play PS1 Classics on the PS4 yet.
Wasn't that PlayStation's selling point for the system over Xbox One at E3? That it was backwards compatible?
They call it "Playstation Now".
Welcome to the generation where you can lease any game you want and pay for it by the hour.
Yeah, Playstation Now is a big-ass blemish on an otherwise excellent platform. Sony needs to find a way to make that service not so absurd.
No joke, you can get hookers and coke for less than it costs to rent a game for 4 hours.
I may be slightly exaggerating as I've never been a patron of hookers or cocaine but I amagine they are cheaper.
Seriously, some games cost more to rent for 4 hours than they do to buy outright from the playstation store.
The pricing makes no sense.
Yeah, it seems like it could be a interesting service, but it's way too pricey to justify the cost, especially for just being rentals. Sony didn't do enough to lower pricing after the huge criticism of the beta pricing, but apparently I heard from someone that they are encoding the video from the stream remotely, and they have a high overhead which may be part of the reason they are charging a lot of money, and they may not be able to afford discounting the service. However, they have to lower prices if they want to get more people to use the service, its the only way.