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Title: GameStop tests Classic Console & Games Program
Post by: MJMaranan on April 15, 2015, 01:25:57 am
IGN Article (http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/04/15/gamestop-to-offer-classic-consoles-and-games)

I am somewhat into this since most retro-game stores available in Washington are too far from my house and most Goodwill stores are already fresh out of the games they receive.  Main reason that I'm not is how jacked-up would their prices be on the games once this becomes a nationwide program.  Thoughts to share on this?
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Post by: desocietas on April 15, 2015, 01:41:58 am
hmm very interesting. my bf (who works at gs) had told me about the PS2s being accepted back a few months ago, and we started wondering what GS has in mind.  I'm curious how profitable this will be for them, but having the product be accessible through web or web-in-store only makes sense, but it'd suck to not see the product in person.

The mark up in price is definitely the part I'll be wondering about, considering what they did with Xenoblade on Wii.
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Post by: fighterpilot562 on April 15, 2015, 02:13:54 am
Finally!
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Post by: seberhusky on April 15, 2015, 02:20:16 am
They had all these stuff to begin with, and they took it away because it was "obsolete" and "outdated" and "uncool"....

Why are they bringing it back now? Did it take them that long to realize that people still play old games?  :o
Title: Re: GameStop tests Classic Console & Games Program
Post by: tafk on April 15, 2015, 10:18:16 am
I could do one of two things

1. They charge FMV from like VGPC or directly under, this causes all other stores to charge FMV and the grouping as a whole becomes cheaper, this is good for some things due to finding games as a whole for cheaper but you would never have amazing "Finds" again because people would sell to gamestop and there would be a constant market to compare prices to.

2. Resellers buy up everything from gamestop and continue selling at higher prices on ebay, the program flops and the bubble just gets even bigger :(
Title: Re: GameStop tests Classic Console & Games Program
Post by: argyle on April 15, 2015, 10:35:09 am
Was kinda shocked to see that Birmingham, AL is one of the test markets - that's about 1.5 hours north of me. Once it gets going I may have to ride up there one Sat. & see what they have. I think this is very good for those of us that don't have a lot of retro game stores in the area. Of course I wouldn't recommend trading anything into them, but non-collectors will just to get rid of it. Since GS typically sells well below ebay rates on most of their used games, it may end up making them a good source for older games.

Since I'm mainly a disk-based collector tho, I worry about how many of those will be traded in complete.
Title: Re: GameStop tests Classic Console & Games Program
Post by: abe on April 15, 2015, 11:45:24 am
I feel like this could end really poorly. As tafk mentioned already, their prices are either going to be too high or they'll be low enough that resellers will buy anything of value and they'll just end up with a bunch of shitty old games in stock nobody wants.

As much as I want to like this, I'm worried collecting old games could be made even more mainstream by this and prices could potentially go up even higher than they are now. :-\

That being said, more local sources for old games isn't terrible either I suppose...
Title: Re: GameStop tests Classic Console & Games Program
Post by: kashell on April 15, 2015, 11:50:14 am
Was kinda shocked to see that Birmingham, AL is one of the test markets - that's about 1.5 hours north of me. Once it gets going I may have to ride up there one Sat. & see what they have. I think this is very good for those of us that don't have a lot of retro game stores in the area. Of course I wouldn't recommend trading anything into them, but non-collectors will just to get rid of it. Since GS typically sells well below ebay rates on most of their used games, it may end up making them a good source for older games.

Since I'm mainly a disk-based collector tho, I worry about how many of those will be traded in complete.

Birmingham is (somewhat) near me, as well. If anything, it'll be an excuse to visit since I've never been to Alabama. I can check another state off the list. XD

Of course, I'd still want to check out the goods and see this program face to face.
Title: Re: GameStop tests Classic Console & Games Program
Post by: devancowan on April 15, 2015, 11:57:02 am
I would love to see this catch on and move its way up to Canada. Where I live retro game stores are far and few between.
I don't know how they're going to do this because there is already very limited shelf space with all the skylanders and amiibos
Title: Re: GameStop tests Classic Console & Games Program
Post by: bloodybaron on April 15, 2015, 12:39:10 pm
I really don't care either way.  It's a struggle to find any good deals on anything anymore because it is so popular so I don't think Gamestop will change this.  Resellers are resellers and as long as people online will pay top dollar they will always be running around picking up anything remotely good.  Just keep hunting for your treasures and if there is something you really want then buy it online and then resell it online so you got to play it for free.  It has gotten to the point where old games just mainly rotate between collectors with much less finding going on.
Title: Re: GameStop tests Classic Console & Games Program
Post by: foxhack on April 15, 2015, 02:10:47 pm
Wait a sec.

Haven't they tried this before, and everything was ridiculously overpriced, with trade-in values being absolute garbage?
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Post by: rayne315 on April 15, 2015, 02:21:52 pm
How I see this going is that gamestop is going to pay people trash prices for trade ins and jack them up raising the overall price for each item then after a while they are just going to throw away what does not sell and common games will start to become harder to find but the rare games that everyone wants they are going to hoard in mass (for months without selling any) to intentionally raise the prices then dump them onto the market for a ridiculous markup.
Title: Re: GameStop tests Classic Console & Games Program
Post by: tafk on April 15, 2015, 03:24:01 pm
You people who can test it out please report back, if this gains traction and seems like it may kill the market I may just bite the bullet on a few grails and buy em on eBay ASAP.
Title: Re: GameStop tests Classic Console & Games Program
Post by: burningdoom on April 15, 2015, 03:27:20 pm
I'm quite excited and I REALLY hope it catches on in the test areas.

Not all of us have the best access to classic games locally. I'm betting a lot of people on here get their games much more frequently through online means, like myself. To be able to go to a store and browse through physical games would be fantastic! And I might be able to do something with those sports games or other bad games that I can't even seem to be able to trade away in bulk. (We do have a place called Video Exchange around here that does that, but she religiously follows eBay prices, and if she does that, what's the point? I can find a better selection on eBay.)

I wonder if anyone at GameStop Corporate at this point is thinking, "Gee, I wonder why we stopped doing that to begin with." lol. When they first took over FuncoLand, they kept selling their classic stock and took classic trade-ins for a couple years.
Title: Re: GameStop tests Classic Console & Games Program
Post by: gf78 on April 15, 2015, 03:34:23 pm
I've known this was coming for some time since my buddy is a Gamestop store manager.

The reason for this move is quite simple.  The future is inevitably in digitally delivered content.  I hate it, I hate it, I hate it.  But it doesn't change the fact.  More and more, games are released as download-only and pre-paid cards are taking shelf space.  Hell, the retail releases now are barebones for the most part, with toilet-tissue thick inserts, no manuals and those cheesy recycle cases with holes cut out all through them like a slice of swiss cheese. 

In order for Gamestop to not only survive this change and (they hope) thrive, they are going to move into the "retro" market.  Your new games will be purchased online or through a pre-paid card in store and physical games will be old stuff.  Guarantee this is where this move is coming from.
Title: Re: GameStop tests Classic Console & Games Program
Post by: Warmsignal on April 15, 2015, 06:35:22 pm
I don't mind, but what actually scares me is knowing how they will probably throw away so many retro boxes and manuals people trade-in because they don't keep that stuff on their shelves. Hopefully most people won't trade in pristine retro stuff to them, chucking out everything but the cart and slapping their price tag sticker over a nice label, that would be sad.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 15, 2015, 07:09:22 pm
I don't mind, but what actually scares me is knowing how they will probably throw away so many retro boxes and manuals people trade-in because they don't keep that stuff on their shelves. Hopefully most people won't trade in pristine retro stuff to them, chucking out everything but the cart and slapping their price tag sticker over a nice label, that would be sad.

It doesn't sound like this stuff will be in stores.  Web in store and online only cause there is no way they have room for the vast retro library out there in any store.
Title: Re: GameStop tests Classic Console & Games Program
Post by: tpugmire on April 15, 2015, 07:11:49 pm
There will be if all new games are going digital.
Title: Re: GameStop tests Classic Console & Games Program
Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 15, 2015, 07:13:51 pm
There will be if all new games are going digital.

Which won't happen anytime soon.  They still get a good bit of foot traffic into their stores to just toss that out in favor of the niche retro market.
Title: Re: GameStop tests Classic Console & Games Program
Post by: bikingjahuty on April 15, 2015, 10:03:49 pm
I'm not a fan of GS, but I'm fairly optimistic about this.
Title: Re: GameStop tests Classic Console & Games Program
Post by: MJMaranan on April 16, 2015, 01:35:08 am
In order for Gamestop to not only survive this change and (they hope) thrive, they are going to move into the "retro" market.  Your new games will be purchased online or through a pre-paid card in store and physical games will be old stuff.  Guarantee this is where this move is coming from.

Not to mention some decent game-related swag, their tech trade-ins, and general foot-traffic.  At least in my area.

Physical-edition games for the new generation may be going away but GameStop will still have some relevance with kids since they don't have credit cards.


I don't mind, but what actually scares me is knowing how they will probably throw away so many retro boxes and manuals people trade-in because they don't keep that stuff on their shelves. Hopefully most people won't trade in pristine retro stuff to them, chucking out everything but the cart and slapping their price tag sticker over a nice label, that would be sad.

It doesn't sound like this stuff will be in stores.  Web in store and online only cause there is no way they have room for the vast retro library out there in any store.

As long as we could still browse around for the condition of the games, this would be acceptable.
Title: Re: GameStop tests Classic Console & Games Program
Post by: burningdoom on April 16, 2015, 02:09:22 am
The article is a little confusing as it says that it's testing it out at certain stores in certain areas, then goes on to say that it's only offering it online through their website...so does that mean only residents of the test markets can buy and trade-in online and no one else; or is there going to be stock in those stores only and available online to the rest of us?
Title: Re: GameStop tests Classic Console & Games Program
Post by: matimo on April 16, 2015, 05:08:41 am
Even though i reside in Canada and this won't affect us currently, i' am excited for this and want to see it succeed and come to other countries. The Canadian Retro collecting market is horrible at the moment, anytime you find games at garage sales they're almost always ebay price or worse, and same goes for any retro stores themselves, not to mentioned craiglist and Kijiji is riddled with resellers and no actual sellers. This program in Canada would do well i think, i see it bringing down prices and would make the retro collecting market more competitive, and would hopefulyl screw over a lot of re-sellers(There are far too many here). Here's to hoping it goes well. :)
Title: Re: GameStop tests Classic Console & Games Program
Post by: kashell on April 16, 2015, 09:33:28 am
So this program starts on 4/25, yes? Me going to Birmingham that day wouldn't be beneficial because they wouldn't have anything for sale; they'd just be accepting trade-ins. Is that right?
Title: Re: GameStop tests Classic Console & Games Program
Post by: badATchaos on April 17, 2015, 10:29:15 pm
gf78 stated it best. With physical games disappearing they need to grow in other directions.
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Post by: dashv on April 18, 2015, 01:09:51 am
Shameless plug since no one else has plugged it so far.

Retro Reload East Coast had a very detailed discussion about the good, the bad, and the maybe with this whole game stop thing. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5v1XmwWOD4