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Title: Star Wars Battlefront (2015 Reboot)
Post by: abe on April 16, 2015, 03:44:56 pm
Now that a recent leak has revealed that the game is to be released on November 17th for the PS4, Xbone, and PC it won't be too long before we finally get more Star Wars: Battlefront.

What do you all think about it? Will it live up to its predecessors? Will it be plagued by poorly handled DLC like far too many modern games are? Or will EA handle DLC properly and support the game well into the future with plenty of new content for players?
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront (2015 Reboot)
Post by: burningdoom on April 16, 2015, 03:55:13 pm
I'm happy. I'm not even a big Star Wars fan, and had a great time with those games. Looking forward to a new one.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront (2015 Reboot)
Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 16, 2015, 05:03:03 pm
Now that a recent leak has revealed that the game is to be released on November 17th for the PS4, Xbone, and PC it won't be too long before we finally get more Star Wars: Battlefront.

What do you all think about it? Will it live up to its predecessors? Will it be plagued by DLC like far too many modern games are?

"Plagued" is wrong to say.  DLC isn't a bad thing.  It's a fantastic thing actually, it just depends on what form it takes.  Is it just regular content updates over the next year like the basic Battlefield DLC? That's good.  Is it the obnoxious battlepacks? Not great, but it's not a big deal really and completely optional.

I'm hoping for good things with this.  Still nothing to go on yet on its quality, but we'll know everything tomorrow.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront (2015 Reboot)
Post by: argyle on April 16, 2015, 05:19:57 pm
I never played the original game(s) - but this series is multiplayer-focused like CoD & Battlefield, right?
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront (2015 Reboot)
Post by: turf on April 16, 2015, 05:22:00 pm
I'm just hoping its not online only.  I like to play offline. 
And please leave the damn Jedi out of it.  They were too strong.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront (2015 Reboot)
Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 16, 2015, 05:32:11 pm
I never played the original game(s) - but this series is multiplayer-focused like CoD & Battlefield, right?

There was a singleplayer experience, which was mostly just the multiplayer, but with story aspects and bots.  The multiplayer is essentially like your Battlefield games with infantry and vehicle fighting it out across large maps. 

We don't know what is changing though with the new game.  They could have a proper singleplayer campaign, though I don't expect it to be like a Battlefield or COD in that regard cause it looks like it'll just be famous locations from the movies and some unique ones to battle it out on.  Also being made by DICE, there could be varied multiplayer game modes beyond just the usual point capture.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront (2015 Reboot)
Post by: abe on April 16, 2015, 05:43:42 pm
"Plagued" is wrong to say.

It's my opinion, so it's not wrong to say. ;) You're entitled to your opinion, just as I am. Believe it or not, just because you might have a different opinion than mine doesn't make mine wrong. :o Did I say all DLC is bad? No, I didn't. Some game publishers/developers certainly do handle it the wrong way and go overboard with milking players for every last penny and I would say that those games have issues with DLC.

I never played the original game(s) - but this series is multiplayer-focused like CoD & Battlefield, right?

I'm not really sure if I'd call it multiplayer-focused, but I've never played the originals online so I don't have much to say on that. Battlefront II had solid single player gameplay and excellent split-screen co-op though which made it fun to have friends over to play with. I hope this new one has similar gameplay options. Star Wars Battlefront II isn't terribly expensive on the PS2, so I'd definitely have to recommend picking that up first if you want to get a good feel for the series before trying the new one.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront (2015 Reboot)
Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 16, 2015, 08:02:10 pm
It's my opinion, so it's not wrong to say. ;) You're entitled to your opinion, just as I am. Believe it or not, just because you might have a different opinion than mine doesn't make mine wrong. :o Did I say all DLC is bad? No, I didn't. Some game publishers/developers certainly do handle it the wrong way and go overboard with milking players for every last penny and I would say that those games have issues with DLC.

Then you should've been more specific about it, rather than making it sound like a generalized issue with DLC lol It's easy enough to look at what DICE does with their games in terms of DLC and it's usually fine.  Battlefield 3 and 4 had the content updates that introduced new maps, game modes, weapons, and vehicles, and I think that's good.  Only "meh" stuff they've done is letting people buy battlepacks and shortcut packs, but those are fairly benign bits of micro-transaction.  I assume Battlefront will be similar, though I don't expect things like battlepacks to be there, especially since I heard that it might also not have battlelog, which is their big platform for interconnecting their games.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront (2015 Reboot)
Post by: abe on April 16, 2015, 08:10:03 pm
Then you should've been more specific about it, rather than making it sound like a generalized issue with DLC

Alright then, I'll edit the OP just for you. ;)
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront (2015 Reboot)
Post by: argyle on April 17, 2015, 12:29:25 pm
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DICE general manager Patrick Bach told Eurogamer Star Wars: Battlefront does not feature a campaign. Rather, it features "crafted missions" that are played solo, with a friend via split-screen offline or cooperatively online.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-04-17-star-wars-battlefront-has-40-player-cap

What little interest I had, squashed.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront (2015 Reboot)
Post by: turf on April 17, 2015, 01:06:56 pm
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DICE general manager Patrick Bach told Eurogamer Star Wars: Battlefront does not feature a campaign. Rather, it features "crafted missions" that are played solo, with a friend via split-screen offline or cooperatively online.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-04-17-star-wars-battlefront-has-40-player-cap

What little interest I had, squashed.

I'm still in.  I don't have to have a full on story or campaign.  I'm just fine with a series of missions.  It'll be fun.  I may even buy PlayStation+ for this.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront (2015 Reboot)
Post by: docsarcastic on April 17, 2015, 01:55:24 pm
I hope it's good, mind you, if it isn't then we can all just play Star Wars Battlefront 2, so there isn't a problem I suppose.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront (2015 Reboot)
Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 17, 2015, 01:59:55 pm
I'm glad they aren't forcing a campaign, but sounds like a basic skirmish mode or something.  And 40 is a little low for the player cap, but I'm alright with that as it seems like too often Battlefield has 64 players, but not really maps designed around having 64, so usually ends up feeling better with 32 or 40.  Super stoked about the game and surprised that it will have both first person and third person options.  I fully expected it to be third person only.

Wish the reveal was actual gameplay, because it's clearly not, but it'll look pretty damn good for sure.  Hopefully it runs well after the Battlefield 4 debacle.

Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront (2015 Reboot)
Post by: badATchaos on April 17, 2015, 09:53:36 pm
better be 64 on PC thats all i'm saying. I'm also sad it's EA because I'll be forced to use god damn Origin.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront (2015 Reboot)
Post by: pacpix on April 17, 2015, 09:59:57 pm
Super excited for this game.  Star Wars Battlefront 1 and 2 are two of my all time favorite games.  I don't mind the focus not being on the campaign as there really was no campaign in the originals either.  I do hope there is an offline mode against computer controlled players (instant action mode in 1 and 2).  My main worry is my PC will not be able to run this game as I do not own an Xbox One or a PS4.

I'm just hoping its not online only.  I like to play offline. 
And please leave the damn Jedi out of it.  They were too strong.
I would still like them to be in the game, although have game modes without them.  I enjoyed playing on Jedi only servers online that were fun, but in the regular battles they feel way overpowered.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront (2015 Reboot)
Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 17, 2015, 10:08:22 pm
I'm just hoping its not online only.  I like to play offline. 
And please leave the damn Jedi out of it.  They were too strong.

Vader confirmed, so force users are in lol I'm sure they'll balance them out better with this game.

better be 64 on PC thats all i'm saying. I'm also sad it's EA because I'll be forced to use god damn Origin.

40 player cap for everything it seems.  I'm wondering if that's a concession they had to make for better performance in the game, which I'm fine with.  I'm fine with anything 32 and over.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront (2015 Reboot)
Post by: burningdoom on April 17, 2015, 10:23:25 pm
Wait, there's no campaign mode...and you guys are happy about that?!

Campaign is like the meat and potatoes of a game. If thet don't give us that, I'm out.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront (2015 Reboot)
Post by: pacpix on April 17, 2015, 10:26:30 pm
Wait, there's no campaign mode...and you guys are happy about that?!

Campaign is like the meat and potatoes of a game. If thet don't give us that, I'm out.

Battlefront one and two had campaigns that you could finish in less than an hour.  While I would like a campaign, it has never been the focus of the franchise.  The true fun of the game was playing all the different groups on the various maps in Instant Action mode.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront (2015 Reboot)
Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 17, 2015, 10:30:08 pm
Wait, there's no campaign mode...and you guys are happy about that?!

Campaign is like the meat and potatoes of a game. If thet don't give us that, I'm out.

It's not the meat and potato of all games.  Battlefield has been saddled with crap campaigns no one wants for years.  I never thought it was super great in the previous Battlefront games either.  I'm wanting an awesome online multiplayer experience and I think we'll be getting that.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront (2015 Reboot)
Post by: burningdoom on April 17, 2015, 10:32:32 pm
Wait, there's no campaign mode...and you guys are happy about that?!

Campaign is like the meat and potatoes of a game. If thet don't give us that, I'm out.

It's not the meat and potato of all games.  Battlefield has been saddled with crap campaigns no one wants for years.  I never thought it was super great in the previous Battlefront games either.  I'm wanting on awesome online multiplayer experience and I think we'll be getting that.

Why does it have to be one or the other? And I had a blast with the campaigns.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront (2015 Reboot)
Post by: kamikazekeeg on April 17, 2015, 11:05:28 pm
Why does it have to be one or the other? And I had a blast with the campaigns.

Weren't they just basically the multiplayer maps with bots and objectives? I really don't remember the campaigns very well, but really liked the multiplayer which I think is what most folks seemed to like the most too.  There's still solo play in the game, so nothing will really be missing.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront (2015 Reboot)
Post by: pacpix on April 17, 2015, 11:30:34 pm
Why does it have to be one or the other? And I had a blast with the campaigns.

Weren't they just basically the multiplayer maps with bots and objectives? I really don't remember the campaigns very well, but really liked the multiplayer which I think is what most folks seemed to like the most too.  There's still solo play in the game, so nothing will really be missing.

Yup, the only difference between the campaign in BF1 and multiplayer was a short clip from the movies and a little bit of text before playing a normal multiplayer map.  BF2 had objectives in the campaign, but basically the same gameplay and it was very short. 

As long as they keep offline play with bots as well as the online multiplayer I think the game will be just fine without a campaign as it was not the focus of the series to begin with.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront (2015 Reboot)
Post by: burningdoom on April 18, 2015, 01:03:17 pm
I usually game to relax after a long days work or after I've been watching my daughter for a while. So single-player is exactly what I want. Multiplayer is just an extra bell & whistle for me.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront (2015 Reboot)
Post by: instantreplay on April 25, 2015, 07:02:23 pm
The best thing EA could have done was give it to the guys who made Bad Company.
The only way I see this game going wrong, is if Visceral tries to make it like Battlefield 3, with the classes being very similar. But I don't see that happening since it be really weird to force things like scopes, combat flashlights, and grenade launchers into the star wars universe when they weren't really there to begin with.
They'll probably make it more like Bad Company, with defined classes that have their own roles.

What I hope they do is make a faithful remake of Battlefront 2, with better graphics, more balanced classes and units, bigger maps, and add more bots on the field. SO HELP ME GOD IF THERE AREN'T BOTS!


Also, do away with that verterancy bullshit that was in the second game.