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General and Gaming => General => Topic started by: Warmsignal on May 07, 2015, 12:36:08 am
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Is this happening?
I don't have too many more PS2 games to get, but there are a few I held off last year and now they're double, if not triple what I remembered. Like, when did Dual Hearts become a $40 game? Last I checked it was like $15 on average. When Did Jade Cocoon 2 become a $25 game? It used to be like $5 - $8.
You might not see a full-on spike occuring, but I've noticed across many platforms lately not just PS2, there seems to be a scalping trend going on with obscure titles. Not really rare games, but games that are overlooked / obscure and look solid, are becoming the target of scalping. Doesn't seem to require any sort of demand for them, they're just sort picked at random - "this is worth a lot because most people haven't ever heard of it", I guess.
Gah, you can't escape this sort of thing with any platform nowadays. Seems like folks will pay about anything for a game, if it was $5 yesterday they'd buy it and if it's $50 the day after, they'd still buy it. At such a rate it'll always be a seller's market.
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That's how I feel when I go out looking for NES and SNES games anymore. I mean the RPGs and certain rare titles always held their value. But even the most generic beat-em up or action-game seems to garner value on NES and SNES now.
I've been in this collecting game too long. And I see no getting out any time soon.
But PS2/XBox/GameCube is when I got smart and really stocked up on titles when GameStop was practically giving them away. So I luckily have most of my PS2 wishlist covered. Right now is the perfect to do the same on 360/PS3/Wii & DS titles at GameStop. They're in that mode, it seems, again.
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Yeah, general scalping is attacking all consoles.
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Yeah, general scalping is attacking all consoles.
Sad, but true...
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Is this happening?
I don't have too many more PS2 games to get, but there are a few I held off last year and now they're double, if not triple what I remembered. Like, when did Dual Hearts become a $40 game? Last I checked it was like $15 on average. When Did Jade Cocoon 2 become a $25 game? It used to be like $5 - $8.
You might not see a full-on spike occuring, but I've noticed across many platforms lately not just PS2, there seems to be a scalping trend going on with obscure titles. Not really rare games, but games that are overlooked / obscure and look solid, are becoming the target of scalping. Doesn't seem to require any sort of demand for them, they're just sort picked at random - "this is worth a lot because most people haven't ever heard of it", I guess.
Gah, you can't escape this sort of thing with any platform nowadays. Seems like folks will pay about anything for a game, if it was $5 yesterday they'd buy it and if it's $50 the day after, they'd still buy it. At such a rate it'll always be a seller's market.
Everything except microsoft consoles it seems.
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Is this happening?
I don't have too many more PS2 games to get, but there are a few I held off last year and now they're double, if not triple what I remembered. Like, when did Dual Hearts become a $40 game? Last I checked it was like $15 on average. When Did Jade Cocoon 2 become a $25 game? It used to be like $5 - $8.
You might not see a full-on spike occuring, but I've noticed across many platforms lately not just PS2, there seems to be a scalping trend going on with obscure titles. Not really rare games, but games that are overlooked / obscure and look solid, are becoming the target of scalping. Doesn't seem to require any sort of demand for them, they're just sort picked at random - "this is worth a lot because most people haven't ever heard of it", I guess.
Gah, you can't escape this sort of thing with any platform nowadays. Seems like folks will pay about anything for a game, if it was $5 yesterday they'd buy it and if it's $50 the day after, they'd still buy it. At such a rate it'll always be a seller's market.
Everything except microsoft consoles it seems.
Some of the horror themed games on Xbox have gone up, as the entire genre seems to be way more collectible now than it was a few years ago.
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Is this happening?
I don't have too many more PS2 games to get, but there are a few I held off last year and now they're double, if not triple what I remembered. Like, when did Dual Hearts become a $40 game? Last I checked it was like $15 on average. When Did Jade Cocoon 2 become a $25 game? It used to be like $5 - $8.
You might not see a full-on spike occuring, but I've noticed across many platforms lately not just PS2, there seems to be a scalping trend going on with obscure titles. Not really rare games, but games that are overlooked / obscure and look solid, are becoming the target of scalping. Doesn't seem to require any sort of demand for them, they're just sort picked at random - "this is worth a lot because most people haven't ever heard of it", I guess.
Gah, you can't escape this sort of thing with any platform nowadays. Seems like folks will pay about anything for a game, if it was $5 yesterday they'd buy it and if it's $50 the day after, they'd still buy it. At such a rate it'll always be a seller's market.
Everything except microsoft consoles it seems.
Sega Genesis and Atari 2600 seems to still be safe.
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That's how I feel when I go out looking for NES and SNES games anymore.
Yeah, I held off getting a NES for years and I really regret it. $50+ for just a front loading console and 1 controller. My local stores have Mario Duckhunt for $8. I remember seeing those go for a freaking penny! I have since put together a retro pie for playing cartridge systems. I'll still hunt for disc game, though.
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If I recall from my research, the PS2 has a bountiful selection of RPGs which I was interested in picking up at some point, pretty much all of them were way out of my price range, practically retail price tags for USED games. A good example I recall was 'GrimGrimoire'.
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As a matter of fact, almost 2 years ago now I bought a copy of Dual Hearts complete & in really good shape that included a copy of Jak & Daxter (that I didn't need, but whatever) for $12 + $3 shipping off of eBay. $40 now??? That IS nuts.
Luckily I have most of the really expensive ones I wanted for it now, except for RoR which I honestly won't even bother with unless I stumble across it for cheap in the wild. At least, I think - who knows, maybe some of the ones on my wish list have skyrocketed since I last checked them. :-\
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As a matter of fact, almost 2 years ago now I bought a copy of Dual Hearts complete & in really good shape that included a copy of Jak & Daxter (that I didn't need, but whatever) for $12 + $3 shipping off of eBay. $40 now??? That IS nuts.
Luckily I have most of the really expensive ones I wanted for it now, except for RoR which I honestly won't even bother with unless I stumble across it for cheap in the wild. At least, I think - who knows, maybe some of the ones on my wish list have skyrocketed since I last checked them. :-\
It can surprise you how quickly it will happen. Less than six months ago, Dual Hearts was selling from about $12 - $18. I think the fascination with Rule of Rose is what has inspired this witch hunt for 'rare and desirable' PS2 games, and scalpers hoping to find the next one that will break $100 and actually have people paying for it. Evidently Dual Hearts has been selling steadily at around $35 - $40 for some months. Makes you wonder sometimes if it's all artificial. People selling AND buying their own games to drive up the interest and costs on some of them. What would stop someone from doing just that?
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I knew this was going to happen, I guess I'm not shocked it has finally started to happen now. Gamecube was the first to take off, then Dreamcast, now PS2 (xbox will probably follow soon).
I'm just happy that I got into PS2 collecting a long, long time ago and completed most of my PS2 collection when these games were abundant at under $5, even the rarer titles. The only two PS2 games I'm still actively looking for are Wild Arms 5 w/ box and Sega Classics Collection. Wild Arms will probably give me trouble, but whatever.
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Wild Arms: Alter Code F and the two Growlanser titles (esp. if I try to get those complete w/ the CE stuff) will be the hardest ones that I still want.
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It's about that time, it's 2 generations old. I sold Haunting Ground for like $70 last year & now it's gone up quite a bit. In 2012 I sold Wild Guns at auction for $30 with barely any competition, I don't even like to look at what the prices are on some of the ones I got rid of. 2012 is when it all started climbing, but also right when I got laid off from my job. ::)
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I' am personally really into collecting Ps2 titles, esp RPG's. I grew up with a Ps2 and Gamecube so that i have money im buying the ones i had, and didn't have now. I can't say im too surprised the prices are rising right now, it was bound to happen soon. My most recent additions being Dark Cloud 1&2 (Which was not cheap)
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I' am personally really into collecting Ps2 titles, esp RPG's. I grew up with a Ps2 and Gamecube so that i have money im buying the ones i had, and didn't have now. I can't say im too surprised the prices are rising right now, it was bound to happen soon. My most recent additions being Dark Cloud 1&2 (Which was not cheap)
I used to see Dark Cloud absolutely everywhere, it was a $5 game easily. Dark Cloud 2 I got from a game store for about $12, but this was 2011.
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Sega Genesis and Atari 2600 seems to still be safe.
I disagree on the Genesis... the rise in their prices is why I stopped trying to buy on Ebay. 2600 maybe, but I think people realise that
1. They are super common.
2. They aren't that fun to play anymore.
Now, PC games on the other hand haven't gotten this price hit yet. Big Box games were up a couple years ago, but it has gone down recently.
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Sega Genesis and Atari 2600 seems to still be safe.
I disagree on the Genesis... the rise in their prices is why I stopped trying to buy on Ebay. 2600 maybe, but I think people realise that
1. They are super common.
2. They aren't that fun to play anymore.
Now, PC games on the other hand haven't gotten this price hit yet. Big Box games were up a couple years ago, but it has gone down recently.
It's funny that you mention Big Box PC games; they've become my new collecting obsession, and been able to grab a few over the past several months for fairly cheap. While 80% of the ones I've been after are pretty cheap, some are ridiculously expensive. Take the Ultima games, SSI D&D, System Shock (1 and 2), or Deus Ex, they are all really up there, especially when you consider many of them are available on Steam or GOG for significantly less.
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I have a feeling the people buying the big box PC games aren't playing them. Playing those games in emulator or from Steam/gog just aren't very interesting to me. I want to play on an actual computer capable of playing them.
I also have a few (20-30) big box PC games and honestly I am not sure about actually playing most of them. This is especially true of the ones on floppy disk. I'm not certain how well that media has held up or how long it will last actually using it. At least I can say that I feel more comfortable finding the game online if I actually have it in physical form.
Your examples are top-end titles, it makes sense. But it may also be true that the reason why PC games have come down is just because you can buy them online. It is an ease of use issue, where people don't have to source a working old PC and battle with the compatibility nightmares of the day.
Presuming the used video game market doesn't crash, we could see a similar drop in physical media value if some service comes along where you can play PS2 or other games online or in some downloading fashion. I know you can sort of do that on Sony consoles, but that doesn't seem to have effected the secondary market yet. Time will tell.
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Where are you looking for Sega Genesis games if they're expensive? :o
I mean, yeah, there's titles like Gunstar Heroes and Castlevania Bloodlines that go for a little more. But for the most part I'm still finding them dirt-cheap, on eBay at that. I can go look for a Sega Genesis lot on eBay right now and get like 10 games for $30, and I don't mean all sports titles either.
I think a lot of that has to do with Sega releasing their games a million times over in collection discs for 20 different systems, in emulation machines, and on plug-n-plays.
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2600 maybe, but I think people realise that
2. They aren't that fun to play anymore.
Speak for yourself.
As for the PS2, I've noticed a price spike. The local pawn shops for months had all ps2 games at $2 each. In the last few weeks they've all become individually priced and based pretty much on ebay prices.
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I have a feeling the people buying the big box PC games aren't playing them. Playing those games in emulator or from Steam/gog just aren't very interesting to me. I want to play on an actual computer capable of playing them.
I also have a few (20-30) big box PC games and honestly I am not sure about actually playing most of them. This is especially true of the ones on floppy disk. I'm not certain how well that media has held up or how long it will last actually using it. At least I can say that I feel more comfortable finding the game online if I actually have it in physical form.
Your examples are top-end titles, it makes sense. But it may also be true that the reason why PC games have come down is just because you can buy them online. It is an ease of use issue, where people don't have to source a working old PC and battle with the compatibility nightmares of the day.
Presuming the used video game market doesn't crash, we could see a similar drop in physical media value if some service comes along where you can play PS2 or other games online or in some downloading fashion. I know you can sort of do that on Sony consoles, but that doesn't seem to have effected the secondary market yet. Time will tell.
I only collect PC games on CD-ROM/DVD-ROM because getting a floppy drive for my modern system just doesn't seem worth it to me. However, regarding the CD-based PC games, I have been able to get all of them to work, most without issue so far. Some do require far more skill and patching than others, but there are only a few out there that can't be ran on a modern Windows 7/8 OS. With that said, I do play them all, it is just a matter of having that big box with a manual, registration, and other goodies that makes it that much more awesome to collect PC games. I will also note that I do not consider my Steam/GOG/Origins games part of my collection.
Sorry for hijacking the thread to talk about PC games :p
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Where are you looking for Sega Genesis games if they're expensive? :o
I mean, yeah, there's titles like Gunstar Heroes and Castlevania Bloodlines that go for a little more. But for the most part I'm still finding them dirt-cheap, on eBay at that. I can go look for a Sega Genesis lot on eBay right now and get like 10 games for $30, and I don't mean all sports titles either.
I think a lot of that has to do with Sega releasing their games a million times over in collection discs for 20 different systems, in emulation machines, and on plug-n-plays.
Most of the games are still pretty cheap, but some games, especially shmups like from Toaplan have risen quite a bit in price since a few years ago. I think that the price jump is mostly affecting rarer and more desireable games, since most of the common stuff, especially first-party sega can be found for cheap still.