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Title: Mega Man Legacy Collection
Post by: abe on June 08, 2015, 12:38:42 pm
Sooo... after five or so years since the last Mega Man game (Mega Man 10, if I remember correctly), Capcom has announced that they're releasing the Mega Man Legacy Collection for the PS4, Xbone, PC, and 3DS. The console and PC versions are due to be released in NA and Europe this Summer, while the 3DS version is due for this Winter. The game will cost $14.99 on all platforms when it releases.

Being a huge fan of the franchise, I was initially pretty excited, but that excitement has already worn off. From what I've read online and seen from the trailer, it's just ports of Mega Man up to Mega Man 6 with some added features like leaderboards and video replays, as well as an art gallery. The trailer mentions something about added "HD Flair", though I'm not sure what they mean by that, as the games clearly haven't been visually remade. Judging by the price point, it's very likely that it's also digital only. My impressions so far are that it's similar to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection, except worse. I'm unimpressed, though not particularly disappointed as I considered the franchise long dead since Mega Man Legends 3 was cancelled and Inafune left Crapcom back in 2011.

What are your impressions?

Here's the European trailer
Title: Re: Mega Man Legacy Collection
Post by: bikingjahuty on June 08, 2015, 01:11:48 pm
Why I'm not excited about this at all:


(http://199.101.98.242/media/images/150671-Mega_Man_Anniversary_Collection_(USA)-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Mega Man Legacy Collection
Post by: fighterpilot562 on June 08, 2015, 01:12:47 pm
Not a big mega man fan, but ill get it !
Title: Re: Mega Man Legacy Collection
Post by: fredlepirate on June 08, 2015, 01:29:09 pm
Why I'm not excited about this at all:


(http://199.101.98.242/media/images/150671-Mega_Man_Anniversary_Collection_(USA)-1.jpg)

Same here, and that 15th anniversary collection got episodes 7 and 8... at least they could had Megaman 9 and 10 in that new collection, now I would have been excited.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legacy Collection
Post by: kamikazekeeg on June 08, 2015, 02:13:17 pm
Such a wasted collection.  Why not have all 10? Why no Wii U? It's literally the only console lately that has shown love to Mega Man with him in Smash Bros and guaranteed it's not gonna cost much to put it on that lol I'm not even that huge of a fan of the old Mega Man's, but it seems like kind of a weak release to sorta toss some scraps to the fans.  I might've been more inclined to get it if it was a full selection release.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legacy Collection
Post by: argyle on June 08, 2015, 02:16:23 pm
I'm not a huge Mega Man fan, but I might would have picked this up had the price been right & it was physical - even tho I own the collection for the PS2. Capcom said in a business meeting recently that their remakes had done much better in the west digitally than physically, so you can thank the average consumer for that one.

I just hope they keep putting out the sets in Asia - in English - on physical media, like they did w/ RE HD & are doing w/ DMC 4 HD.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legacy Collection
Post by: fighterpilot562 on June 08, 2015, 02:18:29 pm
Why I'm not excited about this at all:


(http://199.101.98.242/media/images/150671-Mega_Man_Anniversary_Collection_(USA)-1.jpg)

Just added this to my wishlist on here.  ;D
Title: Re: Mega Man Legacy Collection
Post by: maximo310 on June 08, 2015, 02:18:53 pm
Yeah, I don't see a reason why they can't include all 10, especially since it looks like a another digital release, which they've been doing quite a bit lately with some remasters. I'd rather see a new Megaman  game that comes out for all platforms instead of this.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legacy Collection
Post by: gf78 on June 08, 2015, 02:23:05 pm
Oh dear, Crapcom...Crapcom...Crapcom.  Though I am at work and cannot view videos or any other links for the most part, this sounds like a straight port of the PS2 Mega Man Anniversary Collection.  Well, minus the bonus games anyway. 

It's like they aren't even trying anymore to make something new.  Ports of old games is all they are doing it seems these days, and most of them are digital only.  F that bunk!
Title: Re: Mega Man Legacy Collection
Post by: gf78 on June 08, 2015, 02:23:54 pm
Yeah, I don't see a reason why they can't include all 10, especially since it looks like a another digital release, which they've been doing quite a bit lately with some remasters. I'd rather see a new Megaman  game that comes out for all platforms instead of this.

I'd say it's a straight port of the PS2 Anniversary Collection.  Minimal effort and basically free money for them.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legacy Collection
Post by: maximo310 on June 08, 2015, 02:26:52 pm
Yeah, I don't see a reason why they can't include all 10, especially since it looks like a another digital release, which they've been doing quite a bit lately with some remasters. I'd rather see a new Megaman  game that comes out for all platforms instead of this.

I'd say it's a straight port of the PS2 Anniversary Collection.  Minimal effort and basically free money for them.
Unfortunately, you may be right about that, seeing how bare bones it is, even though they cant even include 7 or 8 along with the rest of their games. I think they're really trying to play it safe right now with stuff like this.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legacy Collection
Post by: silversyx on June 08, 2015, 03:24:08 pm
I was really hoping for a physical release of 9 and 10...  :'(
Title: Re: Mega Man Legacy Collection
Post by: gf78 on June 08, 2015, 03:43:48 pm
Yeah, I don't see a reason why they can't include all 10, especially since it looks like a another digital release, which they've been doing quite a bit lately with some remasters. I'd rather see a new Megaman  game that comes out for all platforms instead of this.

I'd say it's a straight port of the PS2 Anniversary Collection.  Minimal effort and basically free money for them.
Unfortunately, you may be right about that, seeing how bare bones it is, even though they cant even include 7 or 8 along with the rest of their games. I think they're really trying to play it safe right now with stuff like this.

I picked up new/sealed copies of the Mega Man Anniversary Collection and Mega Man X Collection on eBay for $30 as a pair.  The Anniversary edition includes Mega Man 1-8 and two bonus fighting games from Japan.  Mega Man X Collection includes Mega Man X 1-6 and the bonus game Battle Chase. 

This set for fifteen bucks is a cheap cash grab from Crapcom and guaranteed, it's not going to be a smooth, highly optimized set for that price.  You would be better off to buy the PS2/Xbox collection and download the games to play on an emulator for the PC, Wii, etc.  That way you have the legal copies and can play the games how you want.  The emulators run good.

On a side (but related) note, I have downloaded several of the Mega Man titles for NES and SNES on my Galaxy S6 and have it paired with a Moga Hero Power controller.  The games are fantastic.  Though it's not necessary because I have emulation on my Wii, I can (for the fun of it) connect my S6 to my tv through a Samsung HDMI adapter, then kick back and play on the Moga controller from the comfort of my chair with the Bluetooth pairing.  Works like a charm.   ;)
Title: Re: Mega Man Legacy Collection
Post by: foxhack on June 08, 2015, 04:48:36 pm
You guys.

Frank Cifaldi is involved. The guy who ran Lost Levels, a renowned video game historian and preservationist, and all around cool guy. He's definitely making sure the games will be up to par.

This is not a port of the PS2 collection. This is something else.

And yes I had my doubts until Frank was revealed as being involved in this. There's no way this is going to be a shoddy DotEmu-styled port. Not with him around.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legacy Collection
Post by: kamikazekeeg on June 08, 2015, 05:02:29 pm
You guys.

Frank Cifaldi is involved. The guy who ran Lost Levels, a renowned video game historian and preservationist, and all around cool guy. He's definitely making sure the games will be up to par.

This is not a port of the PS2 collection. This is something else.

And yes I had my doubts until Frank was revealed as being involved in this. There's no way this is going to be a shoddy DotEmu-styled port. Not with him around.

For me, I don't expect it to be bad, it's just lackluster in what it is.  No Wii U release, only the first 6 games, would've been much better to have the rest up to 10, make it kind of a big deal release.  I'd pay extra to have all 10 of the regular numbered releases.  I mean, it's not like I can't buy up to 7 on the eShop right now, it's just sorta more about creating a really nice package, especially if they are wanting to "remaster" it (The heck is HD flair?).
Title: Re: Mega Man Legacy Collection
Post by: foxhack on June 08, 2015, 05:50:16 pm
(The heck is HD flair?).

It means the game will run at its proper aspect ratio on a TV or monitor. Possibly with borders.

And yes the lack of a Wii U version is weird but something tells me they didn't want to step on Nintendo's Virtual Console moneys.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legacy Collection
Post by: abe on June 08, 2015, 10:48:20 pm
And yes the lack of a Wii U version is weird but something tells me they didn't want to step on Nintendo's Virtual Console moneys.

But there's going to be a 3DS version and most (maybe all 6 now, I don't remember) of the NES Mega Man games are on the 3DS Virtual Console already.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legacy Collection
Post by: kamikazekeeg on June 08, 2015, 10:57:25 pm
And yes the lack of a Wii U version is weird but something tells me they didn't want to step on Nintendo's Virtual Console moneys.

But there's going to be a 3DS version and most (maybe all 6 now, I don't remember) of the NES Mega Man games are on the 3DS Virtual Console already.

Just checked and all 6 are on the eshop for the 3DS.  I know Wii U is still dealing with a smaller ownership amount compared to everything, but I can't imagine they are putting too much into this collection where they can't make money.

The only good thing coming from this, is that if it's really cheap, like 15 to 20 bucks, it's a good deal, cause those games are about 4 to 5 bucks a pop on the eshops.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legacy Collection
Post by: burningdoom on June 08, 2015, 11:16:30 pm
Why would anyone want this when they could get 1-8 and a bonus game for less on the Mega Man Collection?
Title: Re: Mega Man Legacy Collection
Post by: kamikazekeeg on June 08, 2015, 11:34:55 pm
Why would anyone want this when they could get 1-8 and a bonus game for less on the Mega Man Collection?

To be fair, that is two generations removed.  I understand what they are doing by releasing these to new systems, they just don't seem to be putting much effort into it.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legacy Collection
Post by: gf78 on June 09, 2015, 09:55:58 am
Why would anyone want this when they could get 1-8 and a bonus game for less on the Mega Man Collection?

To be fair, that is two generations removed.  I understand what they are doing by releasing these to new systems, they just don't seem to be putting much effort into it.

It's Capcom...they don't put much effort into anything these days.  Mostly HD cash-ins on old titles and a (from all accounts) horrific port of Ultra Street Fighter IV for the PS4. 

For me, regardless of price-this is a lazy port-job.  Not because of how the games may/may not run, but because it's only the first six games.  Why not all 10?
Title: Re: Mega Man Legacy Collection
Post by: davifus on June 09, 2015, 11:41:56 am
So this collection is going have all MM except 9 & 10?
Title: Re: Mega Man Legacy Collection
Post by: burningdoom on June 09, 2015, 12:15:58 pm
So this collection is going have all MM except 9 & 10?

I heard 1-6.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legacy Collection
Post by: kamikazekeeg on June 09, 2015, 12:31:24 pm
So this collection is going have all MM except 9 & 10?

It's only going to have 1-6.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legacy Collection
Post by: doafan on June 09, 2015, 04:41:16 pm
Not a bit excited and kinda mad of this one, despite the extras that the game can have and knowing that the 3DS is capable of more it's a shame that only the six first games are going to make it, maybe I'm asking to much but since they are trying to have a "Legacy Collection" why not include at least the two latest titles that are so similar in graphics and gameplay, yeah it might have the HD Flair whatever this thing is, if Keiji Inafune aka Mega Man father is not involved I totally have to pass this one, won't gonna pay for something that I already have, maybe it's because am from the old school generation so for me this a total waste of money, if at least the game will come with a bonus, I dunno an action figure or a collectible from the series then I can consider the purchase or perhaps that it came with the manuals of the six titles will definitely buy it but knowing cRapc0m already know that this is impossible.

(http://i.imgur.com/3G8cqWj.jpg)
Title: Re: Mega Man Legacy Collection
Post by: argyle on June 09, 2015, 04:55:18 pm
Why would anyone want this when they could get 1-8 and a bonus game for less on the Mega Man Collection?

To be fair, that is two generations removed.  I understand what they are doing by releasing these to new systems, they just don't seem to be putting much effort into it.

It's Capcom...they don't put much effort into anything these days.  Mostly HD cash-ins on old titles and a (from all accounts) horrific port of Ultra Street Fighter IV for the PS4. 

For me, regardless of price-this is a lazy port-job.  Not because of how the games may/may not run, but because it's only the first six games.  Why not all 10?

I don't understand the hate for Capcom. Yeah, it looks like this collection is going to be sub-par, but RE HD was a really good port where they added some nice features - most notably the option to not use tank controls. The 2 DMC ports they're doing both have a ton of content added. Yeah, I know, these ARE all ports but I wouldn't call them lazy - they're really putting effort into making these shine. I'm ok with that. They've announced that they're working on some new stuff, so maybe they're just gonna wait until the Tokyo Game Show to pull those out?  Who knows.

Anyway, I know of a lot of companies that deserve more grief than Capcom does.

EDIT: And from my understanding, Sony was responsible for getting SF4 onto the PS4 & they chose a crappy dev to do the port.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legacy Collection
Post by: maximo310 on June 09, 2015, 05:13:45 pm
Why would anyone want this when they could get 1-8 and a bonus game for less on the Mega Man Collection?

To be fair, that is two generations removed.  I understand what they are doing by releasing these to new systems, they just don't seem to be putting much effort into it.

It's Capcom...they don't put much effort into anything these days.  Mostly HD cash-ins on old titles and a (from all accounts) horrific port of Ultra Street Fighter IV for the PS4. 

For me, regardless of price-this is a lazy port-job.  Not because of how the games may/may not run, but because it's only the first six games.  Why not all 10?

I don't understand the hate for Capcom. Yeah, it looks like this collection is going to be sub-par, but RE HD was a really good port where they added some nice features - most notably the option to not use tank controls. The 2 DMC ports they're doing both have a ton of content added. Yeah, I know, these ARE all ports but I wouldn't call them lazy - they're really putting effort into making these shine. I'm ok with that. They've announced that they're working on some new stuff, so maybe they're just gonna wait until the Tokyo Game Show to pull those out?  Who knows.

Anyway, I know of a lot of companies that deserve more grief than Capcom does.

EDIT: And from my understanding, Sony was responsible for getting SF4 onto the PS4 & they chose a crappy dev to do the port.
I think it has to do with their public image going downhil after their DLC on disc problems and cancelling Mega Man games a while back, and that people want to see new stuff or fix problems in currently ongoing franchises, such as Resident Evil. The other problem too is that all of their content is digitally released with the only options for physical copies are usually in Asia/Japan, and that's a problem if a game of theirs is on a region-locked system like the 3DS. I'm hoping they do announce some new projects at TGS .
Title: Re: Mega Man Legacy Collection
Post by: kamikazekeeg on June 09, 2015, 05:55:16 pm
Why would anyone want this when they could get 1-8 and a bonus game for less on the Mega Man Collection?

To be fair, that is two generations removed.  I understand what they are doing by releasing these to new systems, they just don't seem to be putting much effort into it.

It's Capcom...they don't put much effort into anything these days.  Mostly HD cash-ins on old titles and a (from all accounts) horrific port of Ultra Street Fighter IV for the PS4. 

For me, regardless of price-this is a lazy port-job.  Not because of how the games may/may not run, but because it's only the first six games.  Why not all 10?

I don't understand the hate for Capcom. Yeah, it looks like this collection is going to be sub-par, but RE HD was a really good port where they added some nice features - most notably the option to not use tank controls. The 2 DMC ports they're doing both have a ton of content added. Yeah, I know, these ARE all ports but I wouldn't call them lazy - they're really putting effort into making these shine. I'm ok with that. They've announced that they're working on some new stuff, so maybe they're just gonna wait until the Tokyo Game Show to pull those out?  Who knows.

Anyway, I know of a lot of companies that deserve more grief than Capcom does.

EDIT: And from my understanding, Sony was responsible for getting SF4 onto the PS4 & they chose a crappy dev to do the port.

Other companies have more general problems, it's more of a long running combination of issues that have really strained the fanbase across multiple franchises.  They are slowly kinda coming back from their really low point after what most seem to consider good games, good ports/remasters, and if they are slowly working to bring back Mega Man with this and actual new games, it could reinvigorate the company for people.  Except for Monster Hunter fans.  Apparently they just damn near love everything with that series and I have no idea why lol
Title: Re: Mega Man Legacy Collection
Post by: abe on August 05, 2015, 10:55:40 pm
Yaay, the Mega Man Legacy Collection will now receive physical releases on the PS4, Xbone, and 3DS! ;D The game is releasing August 25th digitally on consoles, and the 3DS and physical releases will be available some time early in 2016. The digital versions will cost $14.99, while the physical versions will cost $29.99 each (probably $34.99 or more for Canada :-\).

http://gematsu.com/2015/08/mega-man-legacy-collection-launches-august-25 (http://gematsu.com/2015/08/mega-man-legacy-collection-launches-august-25)
Title: Re: Mega Man Legacy Collection
Post by: kamikazekeeg on August 05, 2015, 11:18:26 pm
Wait, they are doubling the prices for the physical edition? The heck? It's the same exact game!
Title: Re: Mega Man Legacy Collection
Post by: retroone on August 06, 2015, 07:25:33 am
Yaay, the Mega Man Legacy Collection will now receive physical releases on the PS4, Xbone, and 3DS! ;D The game is releasing August 25th digitally on consoles, and the 3DS and physical releases will be available some time early in 2016. The digital versions will cost $14.99, while the physical versions will cost $29.99 each (probably $34.99 or more for Canada :-\).

http://gematsu.com/2015/08/mega-man-legacy-collection-launches-august-25 (http://gematsu.com/2015/08/mega-man-legacy-collection-launches-august-25)

Why is the physical copy coming out after the digital? You'd think they would release it side by side.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legacy Collection
Post by: gf78 on August 06, 2015, 11:47:00 am
The other problem too is that all of their content is digitally released with the only options for physical copies are usually in Asia/Japan, and that's a problem if a game of theirs is on a region-locked system like the 3DS. I'm hoping they do announce some new projects at TGS .

^^This.  I loathe digital-only games.  Some people love them, some are indifferent, etc.  But me, I'm not spending the cost of a retail game on what is the equivalent of a digital fart. 

This problem isn't just Capcom's, many companies do it.  I've bought Ratchet & Clank Quest for Booty and Infamous First Light  import copies because I wanted these great games on a damn disc.  I'm mulling over importing the Resident Evil Remake and Rain for the PS3 right now.

Not to mention, internet isn't 100% stable and even less when you live in a rural area like me.  If that shiny LTE tower down the road gets hit by lighting-BAM!  No internet for me.  At that point, digital download titles go kaput.  Nah, I'm good.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legacy Collection
Post by: abe on August 06, 2015, 12:17:31 pm
Yaay, the Mega Man Legacy Collection will now receive physical releases on the PS4, Xbone, and 3DS! ;D The game is releasing August 25th digitally on consoles, and the 3DS and physical releases will be available some time early in 2016. The digital versions will cost $14.99, while the physical versions will cost $29.99 each (probably $34.99 or more for Canada :-\).

http://gematsu.com/2015/08/mega-man-legacy-collection-launches-august-25 (http://gematsu.com/2015/08/mega-man-legacy-collection-launches-august-25)

Why is the physical copy coming out after the digital? You'd think they would release it side by side.

Maybe so they can release all three versions at once instead of splitting them up like they have with the digital releases. ??? I don't really know, but at least it's getting a widespread physical release now.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legacy Collection
Post by: turf on August 06, 2015, 12:19:37 pm
I have no problem paying $30 for a physical copy of a game.  If it's good, I'll drop the change. 

What sucks is that there was more on the GameCube version of this than the PS4 version.  Would it have killed them to put all the Mega Man games on there?  9?  10? 
Title: Re: Mega Man Legacy Collection
Post by: gf78 on August 06, 2015, 12:50:10 pm
I have no problem paying $30 for a physical copy of a game.  If it's good, I'll drop the change. 

What sucks is that there was more on the GameCube version of this than the PS4 version.  Would it have killed them to put all the Mega Man games on there?  9?  10?

That's what I'm saying!  The PS2/Gamecube/Xbox compilation had more stuff than this. 
Title: Re: Mega Man Legacy Collection
Post by: argyle on August 06, 2015, 02:44:43 pm
The other problem too is that all of their content is digitally released with the only options for physical copies are usually in Asia/Japan, and that's a problem if a game of theirs is on a region-locked system like the 3DS. I'm hoping they do announce some new projects at TGS .

^^This.  I loathe digital-only games.  Some people love them, some are indifferent, etc.  But me, I'm not spending the cost of a retail game on what is the equivalent of a digital fart. 

This problem isn't just Capcom's, many companies do it.  I've bought Ratchet & Clank Quest for Booty and Infamous First Light  import copies because I wanted these great games on a damn disc.  I'm mulling over importing the Resident Evil Remake and Rain for the PS3 right now.

Not to mention, internet isn't 100% stable and even less when you live in a rural area like me.  If that shiny LTE tower down the road gets hit by lighting-BAM!  No internet for me.  At that point, digital download titles go kaput.  Nah, I'm good.

I completely agree with this, and I've imported several games over the past year or so for this very reason. My biggest issue, besides the fact that I don't feel like you actually own the games because you're dependent on other services staying up to be able to access them, is that they are tied to your account. My wife and I both game, and she has her own systems. If we have a physical game & she wants to play it, she grabs the disk & plays it. If it's digital then it's tied to my account, so that basically means picking up a second copy.

BTW, the RE HD Asian version is excellent, I definitely recommend it. I have been disappointed with a couple I imported tho - neither Okami HD & Resident Evil Chronicles HD run from the disk, they require you to install the games to your hdd. I prefer them to run straight from the disk to save on space.
Title: Re: Mega Man Legacy Collection
Post by: gf78 on August 06, 2015, 03:21:01 pm
I completely agree with this, and I've imported several games over the past year or so for this very reason. My biggest issue, besides the fact that I don't feel like you actually own the games because you're dependent on other services staying up to be able to access them, is that they are tied to your account. My wife and I both game, and she has her own systems. If we have a physical game & she wants to play it, she grabs the disk & plays it. If it's digital then it's tied to my account, so that basically means picking up a second copy.

BTW, the RE HD Asian version is excellent, I definitely recommend it. I have been disappointed with a couple I imported tho - neither Okami HD & Resident Evil Chronicles HD run from the disk, they require you to install the games to your hdd. I prefer them to run straight from the disk to save on space.

Thanks for the info on Resident Evil HD Asian version. 

As for what you were saying about owning the game, it's totally true.  You are beholden and dependent on the goodwill of the publisher to be able to keep using that software.  As a fan, gamer and collector, I can't abide by this.  They can yank the title, scuttle the service or whatever they want.  And as we've seen with P.T. on the PS4 (F you Konami, F you), they can completely remove it where you can never get it again. 

System updates can wipe any content from your system at any time the manufacturer feels like it.  Sure, you can opt out of updating.  But then your system becomes an offline-only unit until you do update. 

Many digital games on various systems require an online authentication to start them.  If you are disconnected, your games are useless.  Maybe I would feel a bit more secure if the online services were bullet-proof.  But as we've seen, even twerps like Lizard Squad can take an entire online community offline with a practically unbeatable DDoS attack.