General and Gaming => Off Topic => Topic started by: pizzasafari on July 15, 2015, 10:24:58 am
Title: Things you loved as a kid... but now realise are terrible.
Post by: pizzasafari on July 15, 2015, 10:24:58 am
I know you guys have it too. Something that, as a naive, innocent kid, you thought was amazing. You grew up remembering it fondly, then one day you decide to revisit your childhood - Barely able to contain the nostalgia, you finally decide experience that thing you once loved again, and then realise what a mistake you have made in doing so. That thing you loved is bad. It is very bad.
I don't just mean things that are cringey to you now because they're aimed at kids and you're not a kid anymore, I mean things that are bad. It could be a TV show, a game, a film, a book, music, anything.
I decided to make this topic because of a TV series I loved as a kid called Cardcaptors. Cardcaptor Sakura. Whatever you want to call it. It's an old anime dubbed as a kids' series that ran from the very late 90's to early 2000s if I remember right. I would've been about four years old when I first watched it. Back in the day we didn't have any of the big TV networks in our house, we only had the default UK channels 1 - 5. I didn't get to watch TV all that often because either my mum or my brother would be watching it, and even when I did get to watch TV none of my favourite programs ever seemed to be on. Finally catching one of my favourites on TV was like this huge monumental occasion for me, and because of how little I got to watch them I held them in this ridiculously high esteem, and even after growing up I still got this overwhelming feeling of awesome when I thought about them.
So my favourites were Digimon, Pokemon and Cardcaptors. Cardcaptors seemed to be on less often than anything else I liked to watch, so this made it even more amazing when I finally caught it. I remember loving so much about it. It's basically about a girl who finds this book, I don't remember many of the details but by opening the book she looses all these monsters on the world that were sealed in these 'Clow Cards'. By beating one of the monsters it gets sealed back inside its card, and she can summon it from that card to fight the other monsters. So you can kind of think of it as Pokemon meets Yu-Gi-Oh. It's episodic from there, each episode is about all these different monsters and spirits and stuff wreaking havoc in places, the main character fights them using cards she's captured over the course of the series and then gets a new card out of it when she beats it. It was great to watch it to find out what card she was going to be against this time, what it would look like, what cool powers it would have, and watching her get all these new cards as the series progressed.
So it sounds pretty interesting. As a kid it was epic to me. Eventually I sort of forgot about it, then one day adult me was watching a YouTube video about nostalgic animated shows, there was like a 3-second clip from Cardcaptors in it, and my brain just exploded. I remembered everything, and it was great. Eventually I finally decided to revisit it once and for all.
And... well... just look at it.
Now I wouldn't quite call the experience childhood-shattering, because I can see why I wouldn't have noticed or cared about the bad things about it when I was as young as I was, but my god. It is bad. It is so bad it hurts. Did they hire a fucking police siren to voice Sakura?
Still glad I watched it back then, Cardcaptors is probably the reason I ended up liking anime-style things, it's just a shame my childhood was built on a foundation of wrong.
Anyway, have you guys had any similar experiences? Anything you held in really high esteem as a kid, then as an adult learned to hate it with all your heart?
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Post by: gf78 on July 15, 2015, 10:48:38 am
He-Man and the Masters of the Universe. As a kid, I thought that show was epic. Watching it now is almost painful. Even worse is trying to watch the spin-off She-Ra. The music itself as soon as it starts brings me great shame regardless of which show it is.
Its quite funny to watch the old toy commercials, though nearly as painful. The commercial for one of the new characters Man-E Faces (lame, right?) has this guy singing in a deep voice "Man-E Faces! Man-E Faces!" Ugh....... ::) ???
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Post by: telly on July 15, 2015, 11:11:18 am
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow, and Oliver and Company are two movies that I thought were awesome as a kid but now realize they aren't that great :(
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Post by: aliensstudios on July 15, 2015, 12:31:59 pm
Yeah, I remember absolutely loving Thomas the Tank Engine up until I was probably five or six. I actually still like the classic wooden toys with the clickety-clack track and the old videos with narration by Ringo Starr and George Carlin but i think after I saw Thomas and the Magic Railroad I really fell out of love with the series. Brit Alcroft ruined the series in the mid 2000s. Now they are so cheap they just make cgi for the episodes instead of using the actual model engines which had quite a bit of charm to them. Last time I was at Caboose Hobbies, I noticed how much the quality of the wooden trains had diminished too since I was a little one. I still have the stories by the Reverend Wilbert Awdry and those were probably the best ones. Once they ran out of those ideas on the show, he fun was all gone.
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Post by: maximo310 on July 15, 2015, 04:55:55 pm
Shows dubbed by 4Kids; I thought that some of their shows were good when I was a kid. Now that I have seen better dubs or watched the original Japanese version, I finally realized how bad 4Kids butchered these shows with their dubs. I think Yu-Gi-Oh is the only decent English dub that they did, but even that one has quite a few problems. Most of the other shows like One Piece just completely destroyed the source material, because of how much stuff was changed to make a show for teenagers appeal to a 6-10 age group.
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Post by: stuntman64 on July 15, 2015, 05:53:27 pm
Our version of pocket monsters. yuck. was not dubbed right.
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Post by: dreama1 on July 15, 2015, 06:58:50 pm
n64
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on July 15, 2015, 07:25:34 pm
I found that with going back to the TMNT movies, that I think the first movie is still great, but the 2nd one is not that good, and the 3rd is even worse than I remember lol
Ikari Warriors on NES was weirdly something I remembered liking, but man that is not a good game lol
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Post by: bikingjahuty on July 15, 2015, 07:34:06 pm
Sadly, many of the cartoons I loved as a kid I can no longer enjoy. This is mostly various Nicktoon and shows on Cartoon Network that were on during the 90s. Funny enough, 90% of the ones I still like are anime, but stuff like Doug, Rocko's Modern Life, Dexters Lab, and Swat Kats are unwatchable for me now.
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Post by: abe on July 15, 2015, 09:35:22 pm
Not too long ago I rewatched a bit of the original Yu-Gi-Oh! anime. Let's say it wasn't quite as good as I remembered. :P
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Post by: fighterpilot562 on July 15, 2015, 09:47:09 pm
Shows dubbed by 4Kids; I thought that some of their shows were good when I was a kid. Now that I have seen better dubs or watched the original Japanese version, I finally realized how bad 4Kids butchered these shows with their dubs. I think Yu-Gi-Oh is the only decent English dub that they did, but even that one has quite a few problems. Most of the other shows like One Piece just completely destroyed the source material, because of how much stuff was changed to make a show for teenagers appeal to a 6-10 age group.
This big time. 4kids is terrible.
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Post by: pizzasafari on July 15, 2015, 10:52:08 pm
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Post by: Warmsignal on July 16, 2015, 01:06:07 am
Slipknot and company, skateboarding, Pokemon, South Park, hideously oversized cargo pants, pogs, WCW/NWO... Just a bunch of crap that I hopped on the bandwagon of.
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Post by: gf78 on July 16, 2015, 10:46:53 am
Battle of the Planets. Until I saw the original version Gatchaman, I didn't even realize how terrible it was. For the US release, they cut out all the violent parts and added the goofy R2-D2 looking robot 7-Zark-7 to fill in the gaps. The little guy didn't even speak in the US version and instead made goofy sounds like he was mental.
Speed Racer. I thought that show was awesome until I tried watching it again a few years ago. The Mach-5 is still awesome, but everything else is pure dumb.
I would add the N64 like a couple others have, but I wasn't a kid when it came out and I pretty much knew that it, Mario 64 and Zelda Ocarina of Time sucked from the get-go.
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Post by: rancesama on July 16, 2015, 03:08:39 pm
Sadly, many of the cartoons I loved as a kid I can no longer enjoy. This is mostly various Nicktoon and shows on Cartoon Network that were on during the 90s. Funny enough, 90% of the ones I still like are anime, but stuff like Doug, Rocko's Modern Life, Dexters Lab, and Swat Kats are unwatchable for me now.
LOL! I have some good memories watching all of those shows. That's my childhood your hating on man ;)
Cartoons in the 90's might not have been the best, but I still love them ... well maybe not Swat Kats. That was one I barely even watched as a kid. One of my favorite things was when Toonami would come on Cartoon Network. That actually introduced me to anime, which is something I still enjoy today.
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Post by: indenton on July 16, 2015, 07:31:02 pm
I feel like I'm a minority who grew up watching the Pokemon anime without playing the games. I will say the lack of knowledge of the Pokemon universe made the show so much more special to me.
Oh my god!! Charmander is evolving!! What's he gonna evolve into!?
I eventually got my hands on Pokemon Sapphire sometime around 2005 and from there I lost that gift, all of the sudden I noticed how each season just fumbles on as the games progressed, with another movie for each legendary Pokemon introduced. Everyone in the world knows the pokemon, characters and storyline before the hundreds of episodes even air. The episodes become extremely predictable, and if I'm catching onto what exactly 4Kids have changed, then it's sapped out all personality and attitude from the show, the extras are bland and the characters are all lovey-duvey, even the original seasons had a few edgey or antagonized characters once in a while (If I recall Blaine with his Magmar was a pretty menacing battle, for a young kid at least). Now I've even grown bored of the games. Sorry Pikachu, I probably won't choose you next time, I'll probably go with Duck Hunt Duo or Mr. Game & Watch, Roy seems to be pretty good now
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Post by: maximo310 on July 16, 2015, 08:15:21 pm
After checking it out again, I'd have to say that One Piece is perhaps the worst localization that I've seen 4Kids do. Expanding on my earlier point, this is a show that for young adults that 4Kids tried to rewrite for a young audience from 5-10 yrs old. The editing and censorship is just staggering( 90% edited) , the opening song is just ear splitting along with removing the original orchestral score for medicore synth pieces, some story arcs are completely cut out even if they are important to the plot, and a ton of dialogue is just dumbed down w/ terrible jokes to appeal to kiddies. I think Funimation did a much better job at dubbing the series once they got the rights to it, even though they are behind the japanese releases by several seasons.
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Post by: kamikazekeeg on July 16, 2015, 10:39:44 pm
I feel like I'm a minority who grew up watching the Pokemon anime without playing the games. I will say the lack of knowledge of the Pokemon universe made the show so much more special to me.
Pokemon was a show I knew I didn't like even as a kid lol I liked the Game Boy games and Pokemon Snap and Stadium, even sorta liked a movie or two, but man the show is god awful lol
Also man...I knew stuff from the early 2000's edited for kids and such with One Piece and DBZ was bad, but I didn't realize it was that bad overall in One Piece lol
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Post by: gf78 on July 16, 2015, 11:27:10 pm
After checking it out again, I'd have to say that One Piece is perhaps the worst localization that I've seen 4Kids do. Expanding on my earlier point, this is a show that for young adults that 4Kids tried to rewrite for a young audience from 5-10 yrs old. The editing and censorship is just staggering( 90% edited) , the opening song is just ear splitting along with removing the original orchestral score for medicore synth pieces, some story arcs are completely cut out even if they are important to the plot, and a ton of dialogue is just dumbed down w/ terrible jokes to appeal to kiddies. I think Funimation did a much better job at dubbing the series once they got the rights to it, even though they are behind the japanese releases by several seasons.
Well son, this is 'murica! Can't be showing none of them there socialist boobies and such! Gotta tone down that blood too! We save that for Memorial Day showings of Saving Private Ryan where all kindsa guts are hangin out. Back then 'murica knew how to git er dun! /s
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Post by: maximo310 on July 16, 2015, 11:51:51 pm
After checking it out again, I'd have to say that One Piece is perhaps the worst localization that I've seen 4Kids do. Expanding on my earlier point, this is a show that for young adults that 4Kids tried to rewrite for a young audience from 5-10 yrs old. The editing and censorship is just staggering( 90% edited) , the opening song is just ear splitting along with removing the original orchestral score for medicore synth pieces, some story arcs are completely cut out even if they are important to the plot, and a ton of dialogue is just dumbed down w/ terrible jokes to appeal to kiddies. I think Funimation did a much better job at dubbing the series once they got the rights to it, even though they are behind the japanese releases by several seasons.
Well son, this is 'murica! Can't be showing none of them there socialist boobies and such! Gotta tone down that blood too! We save that for Memorial Day showings of Saving Private Ryan where all kindsa guts are hangin out. Back then 'murica knew how to git er dun! /s
Well, to appeal to those darn Americans, 4Kids went even further:
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Post by: aliensstudios on July 17, 2015, 03:21:57 pm
Battle of the Planets. Until I saw the original version Gatchaman, I didn't even realize how terrible it was. For the US release, they cut out all the violent parts and added the goofy R2-D2 looking robot 7-Zark-7 to fill in the gaps. The little guy didn't even speak in the US version and instead made goofy sounds like he was mental.
Speed Racer. I thought that show was awesome until I tried watching it again a few years ago. The Mach-5 is still awesome, but everything else is pure dumb.
I would add the N64 like a couple others have, but I wasn't a kid when it came out and I pretty much knew that it, Mario 64 and Zelda Ocarina of Time sucked from the get-go.
Huh, I still love Speed Racer. I don't think it's any less unrealistic or tacky than lots of other anime shows.
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Post by: gf78 on July 17, 2015, 03:36:34 pm
Battle of the Planets. Until I saw the original version Gatchaman, I didn't even realize how terrible it was. For the US release, they cut out all the violent parts and added the goofy R2-D2 looking robot 7-Zark-7 to fill in the gaps. The little guy didn't even speak in the US version and instead made goofy sounds like he was mental.
Speed Racer. I thought that show was awesome until I tried watching it again a few years ago. The Mach-5 is still awesome, but everything else is pure dumb.
I would add the N64 like a couple others have, but I wasn't a kid when it came out and I pretty much knew that it, Mario 64 and Zelda Ocarina of Time sucked from the get-go.
Huh, I still love Speed Racer. I don't think it's any less unrealistic or tacky than lots of other anime shows.
Well, in all fairness I find a lot of the anime shows pretty bad. Pokémon, Yu-gi-oh, Digimon and a lot of those shown on television have cheap animation, annoying voices, stupid stories, insipid dialogue and just plain blow.
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Post by: stuntman64 on July 18, 2015, 05:48:11 pm
Hopefully that was a joke. I guess my love for it is shameful. It's my favorite console. :(
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Post by: stuntman64 on July 20, 2015, 02:47:14 am
When it comes to my earlier post. I was joking. It was hurtful to see N64 on this list. :( Overall it was a good console, but still had it's weaknesses. Some of those where the 3d stick, the parts would rub and the stick would become loose. Yuck loose parts. lol There was also the flopping of the N64dd and never made it out of Japan. They did not use the VRU and mic as much in NA than they did Japan. The box art was realistic here and creative and that is just my personal preference. They could of really made Hey You Pikachu a good game. Despite these flaws, the N64 still remains my favorite console of all time even though I jumped into it later than other people and of course my favorite game of all time is Ocarina of Time.
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Post by: fighterpilot562 on July 20, 2015, 09:24:45 am
WWE/F Attitude ERA. Use to be epic as a kid, now, not so much.
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Post by: gf78 on July 20, 2015, 10:23:07 am
When it comes to my earlier post. I was joking. It was hurtful to see N64 on this list. :( Overall it was a good console, but still had it's weaknesses. Some of those where the 3d stick, the parts would rub and the stick would become loose. Yuck loose parts. lol There was also the flopping of the N64dd and never made it out of Japan. They did not use the VRU and mic as much in NA than they did Japan. The box art was realistic here and creative and that is just my personal preference. They could of really made Hey You Pikachu a good game. Despite these flaws, the N64 still remains my favorite console of all time even though I jumped into it later than other people and of course my favorite game of all time is Ocarina of Time.
It's cool. Everyone has opinions on what they like & dislike. It also depends on how you are first exposed to and play a console and it's games. For me, I was coming from PlayStation. Resident Evil, Tomb Raider, Crash, Spyro, MediEvil, WipeOut, Rayman, Street Fighter Alpha, Final Fantasy VII, Castlevania Symphony of the Night, etc. Picked up the N64 in '08 for Ocarina, Mario 64, Banjo, GoldenEye, Shadows of the Empire and a few others.
It was like going retro. No voice-acting. No FMV (pretty cool at the time). Tedious, repetitive gameplay to make up for the cartridges lack of storage space. For me, every game on the N64 had something comparable and IMO, better on the PlayStation. This isn't even counting mature games like Metal Gear Solid, Tomb Raider and Resident Evil that had no peer on the N64. And it's pretty much been that way ever since for me.