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General and Gaming => Modern Video Games => Topic started by: fighterpilot562 on August 22, 2015, 01:02:54 am
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http://powerupgaming.co.uk/2015/08/21/nintendo-files-patent-for-new-games-console-will-not-include-optical-disk/
*sighs*
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The return of cartridges?
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The return of cartridges?
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I hope so, and not digital only.....
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includes a “controller with a display screen” as well
/facepalm
Ok let's just say it's a new "light" version of the Wii U like they did for the Wii Mini...
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I've seen other discussion that they could move towards something like an SD card type of format for the NX or maybe a new cartridge form which I would love, as I can't see them going digital only would be a smart move. North America being a big market for them isn't ready infrastructure wise for this to truly happen yet. Some day it will happen, that's a guarantee, it's just not a feasible thing to do right now.
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I'm really hoping this means Nintendo plans to release their games on SDXC cards because I'd be totally for that. If this means they're going digital only then it looks like the Wii U will be my last Nintendo console :/
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I heard that they are releasing two versions of the NX. One that will have a disc drive and is backwards compatible with Wii U games and a version with no disc drive. The one without the disc drive will of course have a bigger hard drive to store more digital games (I think like 500GB or something). It's also suppose to have a main terminal and a portable unit that you can take with you when you leave the house. But who knows how much of that is true or not.
Of course, I guess we won't know for sure until E3 next year.
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Wii U is already my last Nintendo console. I feel completely burned by it. Yeah, there are fun games on it. But it's nearly been a year since I've bought anything for my Wii U. In the meantime, I'm watching all kinds of awesome stuff coming out on Xbox One and PS4.
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Going digital only could be a disastrous move for Nintendo right now. I certainly hope for their sake this isn't true. I already skipped the Wii U as many have, how many more will skip a digital only NX?
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Going full on digital only will kill the collector market for the NX. I know I wont be buying one at launch. Maybe later once the price drops and a couple games I wanted to just play are out for a while and maybe price drop.
The SD card idea I'm totally down for, Make games like the old Turbo Grafx days. lol
I remember reading about the NX would have compatibility with the next handheld system, maybe they are trying to do what Turbo Grafx and Sega did and have a home console and handheld that plays the same games. Play it on the NX then pull it out put it in the NXDS and continue the game on the go. This would make sense for no CD drive. :D
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Long as it isn't digital only otherwise Wii u will be the last system I get from Nintendo and I guarantee I am not the only one who thinks that way. Let the waiting game begin.
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Long as it isn't digital only otherwise Wii u will be the last system I get from Nintendo and I guarantee I am not the only one who thinks that way. Let the waiting game begin.
I am the same way, once its all digital, ill stop buying systems. And a lot of people seem to share the same idea. I only know a handful of people that like the idea of digital gaming. But these are your COD/BF only players.
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It would be stupid for them to go all- digital for their next console,since physical profits are still doing pretty well. I'm seeing a SD card option for physical, along with eshop for digital, and then a disk drive add on for backwards comptability. However, I don't know how cost effective SD cards will be compared to discs, since discs are extremely cheap to produce at this point. I wish that hvds ( holographic discs) would fall in price, since that storage format seems to be a sizable improvement over blu-ray in data transfer and storage, but I don't think its a viable and cost effective option to use just yet.
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includes a “controller with a display screen” as well
/facepalm
Ok let's just say it's a new "light" version of the Wii U like they did for the Wii Mini...
I really hope that this is the case.
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Im not going to say anything that hasnt been mentioned ... Digital only = no buy for me. Im pretty much done with nintendo home consoles anyhow. I have a Wii U and barely have 10 games on it and only one in the future.
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Companies file patents all the time that they don't use for years, decades, or even ever. If that were true, we would all have Walt Disney dolphin phones, but we don't. They just file patents in the event they decide to pursue that idea or to make money from when someone else tries to do so.
We have no idea what this is yet. A console that is digital only is 99% likely to be a no-go for me, and just as likely to fail miserably. I sincerely doubt this is Nintendo's next console.
Also the idea of them moving to cartridges of some sort seems highly unlikely, considering that alienated them so badly with the N64 vs. Playstation. SquareEnix has expressed interest in porting Final Fantasy XV to the NX (whatever that may be, new console or not), and if that is supposed to be this digital only console, or cartridge based console, then that just doesn't make sense. No way is Final Fantasy XV fitting on a cartridge, and that's something SE would have known in advance of making that statement.
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I really doubt they will produce actual cartridges anymore. Compared to the 90ies they'd now be able to cram insane amounts of data in a little N64 cart sized plastic box (probably even more than on bluray or whatever), but the production is way too complicated and cost intensive to be a sensible format to use today. If they would use a physical format that is not an optical disk it's maybe going to be a special SD card type similar to Nintendo DS's. I sure hope it's not digital only as well but as haloofthesun said, after all it's all just speculation about a patent file.
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Wii U is already my last Nintendo console. I feel completely burned by it. Yeah, there are fun games on it. But it's nearly been a year since I've bought anything for my Wii U. In the meantime, I'm watching all kinds of awesome stuff coming out on Xbox One and PS4.
For curiosity's sake, what is some awesome stuff that came out on Xbox or PS4? I haven't seen a single game I couldn't' live without come to these platforms. Well, not one that I couldn't just get for PC instead.
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Wii U is already my last Nintendo console. I feel completely burned by it. Yeah, there are fun games on it. But it's nearly been a year since I've bought anything for my Wii U. In the meantime, I'm watching all kinds of awesome stuff coming out on Xbox One and PS4.
For curiosity's sake, what is some awesome stuff that came out on Xbox or PS4? I haven't seen a single game I couldn't' live without come to these platforms. Well, not one that I couldn't just get for PC instead.
Rare Collection, Ryse of Rome, Halo 5, Batman: Arkham Knight, Bloodborne, Witcher 3, Axiom Verge, Dead Rising 3, No Man's Sky, etc.
And PC does nothing for me. I'm a console gamer, always have been, always will be. I prefer a controller, and I like the ease of popping in a game and playing. No need to worry about having the right 3D card, enough RAM, a compatible video card, a compatible version of windows, etc., etc.
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Wii U is already my last Nintendo console. I feel completely burned by it. Yeah, there are fun games on it. But it's nearly been a year since I've bought anything for my Wii U. In the meantime, I'm watching all kinds of awesome stuff coming out on Xbox One and PS4.
For curiosity's sake, what is some awesome stuff that came out on Xbox or PS4? I haven't seen a single game I couldn't' live without come to these platforms. Well, not one that I couldn't just get for PC instead.
Rare Collection, Ryse of Rome, Halo 5, Batman: Arkham Knight, Bloodborne, Witcher 3, Axiom Verge, Dead Rising 3, No Man's Sky, etc.
And PC does nothing for me. I'm a console gamer, always have been, always will be. I prefer a controller, and I like the ease of popping in a game and playing. No need to worry about having the right 3D card, enough RAM, a compatible video card, a compatible version of windows, etc., etc.
I think that Axiom Verge will be getting a Wii U port in the near future from what I've heard from an interview with one of the creators.
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Wii U is already my last Nintendo console. I feel completely burned by it. Yeah, there are fun games on it. But it's nearly been a year since I've bought anything for my Wii U. In the meantime, I'm watching all kinds of awesome stuff coming out on Xbox One and PS4.
For curiosity's sake, what is some awesome stuff that came out on Xbox or PS4? I haven't seen a single game I couldn't' live without come to these platforms. Well, not one that I couldn't just get for PC instead.
Rare Collection, Ryse of Rome, Halo 5, Batman: Arkham Knight, Bloodborne, Witcher 3, Axiom Verge, Dead Rising 3, No Man's Sky, etc.
And PC does nothing for me. I'm a console gamer, always have been, always will be. I prefer a controller, and I like the ease of popping in a game and playing. No need to worry about having the right 3D card, enough RAM, a compatible video card, a compatible version of windows, etc., etc.
I think that Axiom Verge will be getting a Wii U port in the near future from an interview with one of the creators.
Score!
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Rare Collection, Ryse of Rome, Halo 5, Batman: Arkham Knight, Bloodborne, Witcher 3, Axiom Verge, Dead Rising 3, No Man's Sky, etc.
Well Rome, Batman, Witcher 3, Axiom Verge, Dead Rising 3, and No Man's Sky are on PC. There aren't a ton of really good console exclusives yet for either PS4 or Xbone. It's why I'm waiting till next year to get a PS4.
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D R A G O N Q U E S T H E R O E S !!!!
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Most of the sources I have seen say Nintendo is making a return to cartridges. However, they won't be the cartridges like in the 90's. Like what has already been mentioned, it's going to be more like an SD size cartridge, very similar to the 3DS and Vita. Some think they are doing this because the system is suppose to have a main terminal and a portable unit. Sounds like the goal is to allow you to play your games on the go, come home, and finish playing on your TV. If this is the case, Nintendo needs a good format for games. Disc doesn't really fit the bill unless they are going to try the whole UMD thing or something similar (which I would prefer them not). SD cards are a better answer and they can store a lot of info.
Also, they can save money on packaging because they can ship their games in smaller cases much like 3DS and Vita. Of course, we may no longer get manuals, but anyone who collects Vita games is already used to that :P
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It's still so early in it's development phase that all of his is just heresay and theories anyways. At this point, Nintendo could still scrap every idea they have and start-over again.
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It's still so early in it's development phase that all of his is just heresay and theories anyways. At this point, Nintendo could still scrap every idea they have and start-over again.
If the outlook of a 2016 release is happening, then the system is mostly already all planned out and far too deep in development to throw it out.
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You Know what Screw it 3DS TV I'm Calling it.
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It's still so early in it's development phase that all of his is just heresay and theories anyways. At this point, Nintendo could still scrap every idea they have and start-over again.
If the outlook of a 2016 release is happening, then the system is mostly already all planned out and far too deep in development to throw it out.
And who said that was happening? All this article says is that Nintendo filed a patent.
If Nintendo has been clear about anything about the NX, it's that they aren't being clear about anything about it. They've said this is basically nothing more than ideas being bounced around in more than one interview. That they have no hardware or software to show off yet, and that they don't even have a ballpark release date yet. I also find it hard to believe a 2016 release date when Nintendo has been adamant that Zelda U will be a Wii U game, and we already know for a fact the release date for that got pushed back to 2016.
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And who said that was happening? All this article says is that Nintendo filed a patent.
If Nintendo has been clear about anything about the NX, it's that they aren't being clear about anything about it. They've said this is basically nothing more than ideas being bounced around in more than one interview. That they have no hardware or software to show off yet, and that they don't even have a ballpark release date yet. I also find it hard to believe a 2016 release date when Nintendo has been adamant that Zelda U will be a Wii U game, and we already know for a fact the release date for that got pushed back to 2016.
Not from the article, just the conjecture that's been going on for awhile that the NX has a good chance of releasing fall of 2016, mostly due to them not having really any games announced for the Wii U yet. I'm sure the Wii U will get Zelda, but I wouldn't be surprised if they pull a Twilight Princess with it, the Wii U getting a good version of it, but the NX version packing more of a punch and utilizing whatever features that system might have.
I mean, if we look at E3 2014 and what they were showing off for 2015, we had Yoshi's Wooly World, Mario Maker, the new Zelda which got moved to 2016, Splatoon, Xenoblade Chronicles, and that tiny tease of Star Fox. What did E3 2015 have for next year? Nothing. That Hyrule Warriors port for the 3DS...Think that was mostly it. Heck, one of their new additions to the lineup this year is just bundle deal of two games that came out 2 to 3 years ago, which I'm cool with cause those games are pricey still to get separately, so this makes them abit cheaper lol
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I've been thinking about this. I am very against download only. I like to physically own my games. With that said, I came up with a way that I might be ok with download only.
If I can own the game and put it on my SD card, flash drive, or hdd; I think I'm ok. If I can play this on my Nintendo NX years down the road or without online checks or anything like that. It'll be like me supplying the materials to have a physical copy.
Now, do I think that will happen? I doubt it. It would be encourage piracy I think. Who knows. It's just a thought.
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Regardless of what it is, it seems like Nintendo is brewing up yet another "innovative" piece of hardware that developers aren't going to touch with a pole that has at least ten feet to spare on it. What else is new.
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It seems more like the upgrate to the wii u. If you look at the diagram for the Controller you will notice there is a spot for a "Display Unit" maybe they are just going to make it a cheaper version by removing the disc drive.
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Black Hound, a game for PS4 and XB1, is also being announced for a "currently unannounced Nintendo console", making it seem more likely that the reports of third party devs being happy with the NX are true. I believe this is a Hideo Kojima game, not entirely sure.
Whether or not the NX will be digital only (I still find this highly unlikely), it's pretty cool that Nintendo may finally get some third party support again.
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While this is the rumoriest of rumors, if proven true, it would basically be quite the leap for Nintendo.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nintendo/comments/3jiqin/rumor_nx_platform_details_both_console_handheld/
It has most of what people would want out of the system. It would be a unified online platform with proper online accounts, friends lists, cross save/cross play, all the stuff a modern game system should have. The optical drive is still said to not be built in, but optional. It sounds like a big part of the NX is essentially something that interconnects with all its parts easily, but you can sorta pick the system you want in bundles at different prices. Very clearly is getting the third party support. It's also supposed to be close to the current gen systems so it can be easier to port stuff. Some other good things, though I question bringing out the portable first as replacing the 3DS and then up to a year later, bringing out the home unit. The 3DS, while at its peak now and basically unable to progress further, is still selling. 2 more years of the Wii U just doesn't seem feasible to me, especially if they start promoting the NX, which will kill more sales of the Wii U.
Anyways, its all just rumor at this point, but its interesting information to consider.
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I'm not believing anything till I hear it from Nintendo themselves. After the Rayman in Smash debacle I'm pretty sure a lot people follow this same thought
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I'm not believing anything till I hear it from Nintendo themselves. After the Rayman in Smash debacle I'm pretty sure a lot people follow this same thought
This is different than that, really. A well executed hoax like that is more for the attention than an anonymous source leaking out very rumor filled information on just the possibility of what is to come with the NX. Always best to take with a grain of salt, but a lot of the ideas are smart and make a lot of sense.
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My hat is that its similar to the PSTV. Its a 3DSTV, lets you play DS/3DS carts on your TV.