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General and Gaming => Modern Video Games => Topic started by: dashv on October 15, 2015, 11:05:58 pm
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Late to the party I know, but I just got a new 3DS XL.
I haven't really kept up with mobile gaming after the regular gray DS.
Help me put together a wish list of must plays.
So far my list is:
- Resident Evil Revelations
- Zelda: A Link Between Worlds
- Dead or Alive Dimensions
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If you're looking for some good 3DS games, theres some good suggestions here: http://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,6571.0.html
Also, I wanna say that Dead or Alive Dimensions might be a bit of a dissapointment unless you want to play through story mode to learn the story and such. I think that Super Street Fighter IV 3DS/ or Tekken 3D Prime Edition might be better options for a fighting game on the 3DS.
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If you have never played the two N64 Zelda games the 3DS remakes are fantastic. Also be sure to check out Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon.
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Bravely Default
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Dual Destinies (eshop only)
Kid Icarus: Uprising
Super Mario 3D Land
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Mario & Luigi: Dream Team is pretty fun.
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Fire Emblem: Awakening and Super Smash Bros. 4 are two of my favorite 3DS options.
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Fire Emblem: Awakening and Super Smash Bros. 4 are two of my favorite 3DS options.
I really enjoyed Fire Emblem Awakening as well. Highly recommended!
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If you're looking for some good 3DS games, theres some good suggestions here: http://vgcollect.com/forum/index.php/topic,6571.0.html
Yup, some definitely good stuff on that thread (and a good reminder that there are so many great DS games that many have yet to play).
Also, Nintendo has given out some demo codes for folks for to try out the multiplayer in the new Tri Force Heroes. Check your inbox - you might have some codes in there!
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Most games for the system are pretty decent! Here are a few of my must own suggestions though:
- Tales of the Abyss
- Tomodachi life
- Bravely Default
- Puzzles and Dragons.
- Xenoblade Chronicles 3D
And ofc there are the expected Mario, Pokemon and other Nintendo games i didn't need to list here. :P
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I'm going to counter the idea that Xenoblade Chronicles 3D is worth getting. I think it's actually a pretty bad port that they did very little with to actually accommodate being on the 3DS hardware. It plays, but it does nothing well.
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Fire Emblem: Awakening - A must play.
Bravely Default - A great JRPG with amazing music.
Harvest Moon: A New Beginning - I'm a huge Harvest Moon fan and this is probably the best addition to the series recently.
Pokemon: Y/X - One of the best Pokemon games to date.
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Downloaded the demo for Bravely Default.
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Holy crap, it's an awesome demo!
Getting the game!
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I'm going to counter the idea that Xenoblade Chronicles 3D is worth getting. I think it's actually a pretty bad port that they did very little with to actually accommodate being on the 3DS hardware. It plays, but it does nothing well.
Yeah, the 3DS port looked like pixilated meh to me.
I already have the Wii version so I'm thinking I'm going to pass on the 3DS version.
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I'm going to counter the idea that Xenoblade Chronicles 3D is worth getting. I think it's actually a pretty bad port that they did very little with to actually accommodate being on the 3DS hardware. It plays, but it does nothing well.
Yeah, the 3DS port looked like pixilated meh to me.
I already have the Wii version so I'm thinking I'm going to pass on the 3DS version.
The downgrade was significant and I would say the textures are actually very ugly. There's pretty significant slow down in parts such as boss fights. Also they didn't do anything to make it functional with the 3DS such as the touch screen with menus. Basically where games from the N64 benefited from being brought to the 3DS, Xenoblade Chronicles suffered. I'm not really sure why they thought it was a good idea to do this.
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I'm going to counter the idea that Xenoblade Chronicles 3D is worth getting. I think it's actually a pretty bad port that they did very little with to actually accommodate being on the 3DS hardware. It plays, but it does nothing well.
Yeah the Wii version is better graphically, but for a port to a handheld system it is pretty decent. I do happen to own both, and i think for it being portable it's fine. :P
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Yeah the Wii version is better graphically, but for a port to a handheld system it is pretty decent. I do happen to own both, and i think for it being portable it's fine. :P
I would say "decent" is being generous for such a bare bones port that mostly functions, but this thread isn't about ragging on Xenoblade, so we'll just move on lol
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- Animal Crossing: New Leaf
- LoZ: Link between worlds
- Fire Emblem: Awakening
- MH4
- Professor Layton
- BoxBoy
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Kid Icarus: Uprising
New Super Mario Bros. 2
Pokemon Alpha Sapphire/Omega Ruby
Ocarina of Time 3D
Super Mario 3D Land
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I would say Fantasy Life & Bravely Default are both must plays on the 3DS :)
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I'm going to counter the idea that Xenoblade Chronicles 3D is worth getting. I think it's actually a pretty bad port that they did very little with to actually accommodate being on the 3DS hardware. It plays, but it does nothing well.
From the point of view of someone who didn't play Xenoblade Chronicles on the Wii, I strongly beg to differ. Especially considering how hard the original game is to come by in the UK, it's practically retail price and beyond
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I'm going to counter the idea that Xenoblade Chronicles 3D is worth getting. I think it's actually a pretty bad port that they did very little with to actually accommodate being on the 3DS hardware. It plays, but it does nothing well.
From the point of view of someone who didn't play Xenoblade Chronicles on the Wii, I strongly beg to differ. Especially considering how hard the original game is to come by in the UK, it's practically retail price and beyond
If price is a major concern, I believe the European Eshop release for the Wii U is about 20 euros/18 british pounds. It's not a physical copy, but its a cheaper legal option than paying $60+ for the game, plus it is the defenitive version of the game.
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From the point of view of someone who didn't play Xenoblade Chronicles on the Wii, I strongly beg to differ. Especially considering how hard the original game is to come by in the UK, it's practically retail price and beyond
From that point of view, it's a slight thing to consider, I didn't play it on the Wii either, but it's still a bad port. Price wise, looking at it in the US and the UK on Ebay, to get it on the Wii used, is only slightly more than buying 3DS new. I would probably say just get the Wii version then. Portability is nice, but so many sacrifices were made and little was done to make it 3DS functional, especially New 3DS functional.
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From the point of view of someone who didn't play Xenoblade Chronicles on the Wii, I strongly beg to differ. Especially considering how hard the original game is to come by in the UK, it's practically retail price and beyond
From that point of view, it's a slight thing to consider, I didn't play it on the Wii either, but it's still a bad port. Price wise, looking at it in the US and the UK on Ebay, to get it on the Wii used, is only slightly more than buying 3DS new. I would probably say just get the Wii version then. Portability is nice, but so many sacrifices were made and little was done to make it 3DS functional, especially New 3DS functional.
I don't know where you're looking for price comparison, but that's not the case on my end, with either eBay & Amazon UK
I found the original Xenoblade Chronicles in-store a few days ago, which as I already knew, no GC controller support. How about the classic controller, which I don't own and don't plan on buying anytime soon. As far as I've heard, the graphics in the Wii version were nothing to boast about to begin with. Was that really what made Xenoblade Chronicles all that great. DEH GREFIKS!? A beloved RPG, on the go. You fail to see the simple benefit of the game being on a handheld system here, for me that's how I like my RPGs. I'm not trying to prove the n3ds port as superior, but that it's still very much enjoyable nonetheless. There are certianly worse ports out there, You want a bad 3DS port? Go out and buy Rayman 3D
So how about that Bravely Defunct, I've heard great stories about that man
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From the point of view of someone who didn't play Xenoblade Chronicles on the Wii, I strongly beg to differ. Especially considering how hard the original game is to come by in the UK, it's practically retail price and beyond
From that point of view, it's a slight thing to consider, I didn't play it on the Wii either, but it's still a bad port. Price wise, looking at it in the US and the UK on Ebay, to get it on the Wii used, is only slightly more than buying 3DS new. I would probably say just get the Wii version then. Portability is nice, but so many sacrifices were made and little was done to make it 3DS functional, especially New 3DS functional.
I don't know where you're looking for price comparison, but that's not the case on my end, with either eBay & Amazon UK
I found the original Xenoblade Chronicles in-store a few days ago, which as I already knew, no GC controller support. How about the classic controller, which I don't own and don't plan on buying anytime soon. As far as I've heard, the graphics in the Wii version were nothing to boast about to begin with. Was that really what made Xenoblade Chronicles all that great. DEH GREFIKS!? A beloved RPG, on the go. You fail to see the simple benefit of the game being on a handheld system here, for me that's how I like my RPGs. I'm not trying to prove the n3ds port as superior, but that it's still very much enjoyable nonetheless. There are certianly worse ports out there, You want a bad 3DS port? Go out and buy Rayman 3D
So how about that Bravely Defunct, I've heard great stories about that man
If you don't care about ugly textures, bad framerate, and no real 3DS functionality, and purely want it cause you play it on the go, that's fine. For those that can't look past the problems the game has, it's not a good port, which is a shame because I was interested in playing it because I didn't play it on the Wii. It was just one of my big disappointments of the year and this is a year that had Arkham Knight in it lol
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From the point of view of someone who didn't play Xenoblade Chronicles on the Wii, I strongly beg to differ. Especially considering how hard the original game is to come by in the UK, it's practically retail price and beyond
From that point of view, it's a slight thing to consider, I didn't play it on the Wii either, but it's still a bad port. Price wise, looking at it in the US and the UK on Ebay, to get it on the Wii used, is only slightly more than buying 3DS new. I would probably say just get the Wii version then. Portability is nice, but so many sacrifices were made and little was done to make it 3DS functional, especially New 3DS functional.
I don't know where you're looking for price comparison, but that's not the case on my end, with either eBay & Amazon UK
I found the original Xenoblade Chronicles in-store a few days ago, which as I already knew, no GC controller support. How about the classic controller, which I don't own and don't plan on buying anytime soon. As far as I've heard, the graphics in the Wii version were nothing to boast about to begin with. Was that really what made Xenoblade Chronicles all that great. DEH GREFIKS!? A beloved RPG, on the go. You fail to see the simple benefit of the game being on a handheld system here, for me that's how I like my RPGs. I'm not trying to prove the n3ds port as superior, but that it's still very much enjoyable nonetheless. There are certianly worse ports out there, You want a bad 3DS port? Go out and buy Rayman 3D
So how about that Bravely Defunct, I've heard great stories about that man
If you don't care about ugly textures, bad framerate, and no real 3DS functionality, and purely want it cause you play it on the go, that's fine. For those that can't look past the problems the game has, it's not a good port, which is a shame because I was interested in playing it because I didn't play it on the Wii. It was just one of my big disappointments of the year and this is a year that had Arkham Knight in it lol
Okay, hold your horses, those horses need to be held. Besides the graphical downgrade, I haven' noticed nor heard about these other issues. Like I said, I haven't gotten too far into the game, if something does come to my attention I'll get back to you. You know all that other stuff in the game, atmosphere, visuals, music, characters, gameplay, all the things that made Xenoblade Chronicles great? That's very much still intact in the New 3DS version, and that sold me on the game.
There's only so much there were able to do with a port of a Wii game (the biggest Wii game, no less) to a handheld with bit of extra juice.
Remember the original 'Legend of Zelda', the graphics were terrible and had a pretty bad framerate. What was it on a 8-bit system or something?
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Okay, hold your horses, those horses need to be held. Besides the graphical downgrade, I haven' noticed nor heard about these other issues. Like I said, I haven't gotten too far into the game, if something does come to my attention I'll get back to you. You know all that other stuff in the game, atmosphere, visuals, music, characters, gameplay, all the things that made Xenoblade Chronicles great? That's very much still intact in the New 3DS version, and that sold me on the game.
There's only so much there were able to do with a port of a Wii game (the biggest Wii game, no less) to a handheld with bit of extra juice.
Remember the original 'Legend of Zelda', the graphics were terrible and had a pretty bad framerate. What was it on a 8-bit system or something?
You keep wanting to make this about me being some sort of "graphic elitist", when it is has nothing to do with that. Bringing up a 30 year old game is kinda pointless. I'm sure the core of Xenoblade Chronicles is fine, the overall package though is a game that doesn't look to good with muddy textures (It doesn't seem like the game was too impressive on the Wii itself which is noticeable in up close shots, shows the limitations of the hardware which isn't great for a game that was supposed to sell the New 3DS, and is such a barebones port it really doesn't take advantage of the handheld its on as it could've greatly benefited from touch controls. To me, that doesn't make for a great port and it affected my experience. If people can ignore the issues, then great. I couldn't and I think as far as ports go, it wasn't too great of one.
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From the point of view of someone who didn't play Xenoblade Chronicles on the Wii, I strongly beg to differ. Especially considering how hard the original game is to come by in the UK, it's practically retail price and beyond
From that point of view, it's a slight thing to consider, I didn't play it on the Wii either, but it's still a bad port. Price wise, looking at it in the US and the UK on Ebay, to get it on the Wii used, is only slightly more than buying 3DS new. I would probably say just get the Wii version then. Portability is nice, but so many sacrifices were made and little was done to make it 3DS functional, especially New 3DS functional.
I don't know where you're looking for price comparison, but that's not the case on my end, with either eBay & Amazon UK
I found the original Xenoblade Chronicles in-store a few days ago, which as I already knew, no GC controller support. How about the classic controller, which I don't own and don't plan on buying anytime soon. As far as I've heard, the graphics in the Wii version were nothing to boast about to begin with. Was that really what made Xenoblade Chronicles all that great. DEH GREFIKS!? A beloved RPG, on the go. You fail to see the simple benefit of the game being on a handheld system here, for me that's how I like my RPGs. I'm not trying to prove the n3ds port as superior, but that it's still very much enjoyable nonetheless. There are certianly worse ports out there, You want a bad 3DS port? Go out and buy Rayman 3D
So how about that Bravely Defunct, I've heard great stories about that man
If you don't care about ugly textures, bad framerate, and no real 3DS functionality, and purely want it cause you play it on the go, that's fine. For those that can't look past the problems the game has, it's not a good port, which is a shame because I was interested in playing it because I didn't play it on the Wii. It was just one of my big disappointments of the year and this is a year that had Arkham Knight in it lol
Okay, hold your horses, those horses need to be held. Besides the graphical downgrade, I haven' noticed nor heard about these other issues. Like I said, I haven't gotten too far into the game, if something does come to my attention I'll get back to you. You know all that other stuff in the game, atmosphere, visuals, music, characters, gameplay, all the things that made Xenoblade Chronicles great? That's very much still intact in the New 3DS version, and that sold me on the game.
There's only so much there were able to do with a port of a Wii game (the biggest Wii game, no less) to a handheld with bit of extra juice.
Remember the original 'Legend of Zelda', the graphics were terrible and had a pretty bad framerate. What was it on a 8-bit system or something?
There was defenitely more they could have done with the port; it was a pretty bare bones port from what I heard. The port simply exists to showcase the power of the New 3DS as its only exclusive, although the problem is that there will be downgrades because the New 3DS isn't powerful enough for this game. Now how this affects your experience of the game is somewhat subjective so if you wanna get the New 3DS game go for it. On the same token, the eshop release for wii u is the cheapest of the three options, and I believe the Wii version is the defenitive version of the game.
Also, trying to compare Legend of Zelda to Xeno 3DS is a terrible comparision for a 25+ year gap and doesn't make much sense considering Zelda NES is 60 fps/ graphics looking different to your liking.
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Even with Xenoblade Chronicles 3D, I haven't gotten too much mileage out of my New 3DS either.
I wasn't going the Graphic elitist direction, it was more about considering the console specs. At this point we should be criticising the New 3DS itself. Come to think of it, it's not often that you get a port to a console with inferior specs like this. Xenoblade Chronicles 3D is a bit of an unusual case.
Can we just specify that there's a difference between an inferior port and a bad port? For the compromises it had to make for the console, I don't think they could of done much else.
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From the point of view of someone who didn't play Xenoblade Chronicles on the Wii, I strongly beg to differ. Especially considering how hard the original game is to come by in the UK, it's practically retail price and beyond
From that point of view, it's a slight thing to consider, I didn't play it on the Wii either, but it's still a bad port. Price wise, looking at it in the US and the UK on Ebay, to get it on the Wii used, is only slightly more than buying 3DS new. I would probably say just get the Wii version then. Portability is nice, but so many sacrifices were made and little was done to make it 3DS functional, especially New 3DS functional.
I don't know where you're looking for price comparison, but that's not the case on my end, with either eBay & Amazon UK
I found the original Xenoblade Chronicles in-store a few days ago, which as I already knew, no GC controller support. How about the classic controller, which I don't own and don't plan on buying anytime soon. As far as I've heard, the graphics in the Wii version were nothing to boast about to begin with. Was that really what made Xenoblade Chronicles all that great. DEH GREFIKS!? A beloved RPG, on the go. You fail to see the simple benefit of the game being on a handheld system here, for me that's how I like my RPGs. I'm not trying to prove the n3ds port as superior, but that it's still very much enjoyable nonetheless. There are certianly worse ports out there, You want a bad 3DS port? Go out and buy Rayman 3D
So how about that Bravely Defunct, I've heard great stories about that man
If you don't care about ugly textures, bad framerate, and no real 3DS functionality, and purely want it cause you play it on the go, that's fine. For those that can't look past the problems the game has, it's not a good port, which is a shame because I was interested in playing it because I didn't play it on the Wii. It was just one of my big disappointments of the year and this is a year that had Arkham Knight in it lol
Okay, hold your horses, those horses need to be held. Besides the graphical downgrade, I haven' noticed nor heard about these other issues. Like I said, I haven't gotten too far into the game, if something does come to my attention I'll get back to you. You know all that other stuff in the game, atmosphere, visuals, music, characters, gameplay, all the things that made Xenoblade Chronicles great? That's very much still intact in the New 3DS version, and that sold me on the game.
There's only so much there were able to do with a port of a Wii game (the biggest Wii game, no less) to a handheld with bit of extra juice.
Remember the original 'Legend of Zelda', the graphics were terrible and had a pretty bad framerate. What was it on a 8-bit system or something?
Also, trying to compare Legend of Zelda to Xeno 3DS is a terrible comparision for a 25+ year gap and doesn't make much sense considering Zelda NES is 60 fps/ graphics looking different to your liking.
I would like to clarify, if you couldn't tell, the legend of Zelda comparison was a joke, I'm not that 2-dimensional of a person. Just trying to make this seem all in good fun instead of feeling miserable about myself. It also doesn't feel good being completely outnumbered here.
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Even with Xenoblade Chronicles 3D, I haven't gotten too much mileage out of my New 3DS either.
I wasn't going the Graphic elitist direction, it was more about considering the console specs. At this point we should be criticising the New 3DS itself. Come to think of it, it's not often that you get a port to a console with inferior specs like this. Xenoblade Chronicles 3D is a bit of an unusual case.
Can we just specify that there's a difference between an inferior port and a bad port? For the compromises it had to make for the console, I don't think they could of done much else.
I'm not sure there's really much difference between an inferior port or a bad port. Both aren't very good and not things I'd recommend. I don't even think Xenoblade Chronicles was a good choice to begin with for the system. I'm sure others could've been chosen to show off the hardware and fit better on the system, maybe even benefited from the shift in hardware. It's just so barebones and with the limitations it suffers, I just didn't think it was super worthwhile.
And sorry if it felt like I was being too confrontational. Didn't mean it that way, it was just such a big disappointment to me this year, it's a sore spot. I put 7 hours into the game, was very fed up with it, and very quickly sold it off on Ebay with Amiibo in tow lol To me it was just too big of a game to stuff onto a handheld, at least for the current 3DS line. The system just doesn't have the power for quality Wii level games. Which makes me glad they did Chronicles on the 3DS, instead of Twilight Princess, which is looking to get a Wii U HD port.
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Even with Xenoblade Chronicles 3D, I haven't gotten too much mileage out of my New 3DS either.
I wasn't going the Graphic elitist direction, it was more about considering the console specs. At this point we should be criticising the New 3DS itself. Come to think of it, it's not often that you get a port to a console with inferior specs like this. Xenoblade Chronicles 3D is a bit of an unusual case.
Can we just specify that there's a difference between an inferior port and a bad port? For the compromises it had to make for the console, I don't think they could of done much else.
I'm not sure there's really much difference between an inferior port or a bad port. Both aren't very good and not things I'd recommend. I don't even think Xenoblade Chronicles was a good choice to begin with for the system. I'm sure others could've been chosen to show off the hardware and fit better on the system, maybe even benefited from the shift in hardware. It's just so barebones and with the limitations it suffers, I just didn't think it was super worthwhile.
And sorry if it felt like I was being too confrontational. Didn't mean it that way, it was just such a big disappointment to me this year, it's a sore spot. I put 7 hours into the game, was very fed up with it, and very quickly sold it off on Ebay with Amiibo in tow lol To me it was just too big of a game to stuff onto a handheld, at least for the current 3DS line. The system just doesn't have the power for quality Wii level games.
The game is definitely the biggest handheld game I've played, for better and for worse, and yes it was an unusual choice to port for the new 3DS. Looks more like a "look what the new 3DS can do!" rather than "this is the definitive way to play Xenoblade Chronicles"
I stand by a philosophy that 'Nintendo knows how to turn a limitation on it's head' take a game put it on a supposedly under powered console and still make it look like the best damn thing on the market with silky smooth gameplay to boot, they just know how to strike that balance. Seeing as Nintendo were not entirely involved with this port, it really seems like this game was just too ambitious for the poor thing.
For crying out loud, just leave Xenoblade Chronicles X on the Wii U for now
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Just FYI.
The Bravely Default demo is effing amazing!
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Just FYI.
The Bravely Default demo is effing amazing!
I actually need to pick up the game someday, especially before the sequel is released lol I played the demo and thought it was kinda cool, just never decided to pick it up.
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Just FYI.
The Bravely Default demo is effing amazing!
I picked up the Final Fantasy III remake on DS recently, it's weird seeing them looking somewhat similar, mainly the character models during combat. I think I'll try out this Demo later too
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I would like to clarify, if you couldn't tell, the legend of Zelda comparison was a joke, I'm not that 2-dimensional of a person. Just trying to make this seem all in good fun instead of feeling miserable about myself. It also doesn't feel good being completely outnumbered here.
It was a pretty silly joke to be honest. All I was trying to say was that the New 3DS port is not up to the high standards that I expected for Xenoblade, although I think it is just system limitations. It just can't compare, especially when the new 3ds is only 240p. Nintendo should have made a better choice to show the new 3DS power.