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General and Gaming => Modern Video Games => Topic started by: silversyx on January 04, 2016, 01:23:30 am
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So I was thinking if people are even remotely okay buying another Konami game, what do people think of a VR Yu-Gi-Oh game?
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So I was thinking if people are even remotely okay buying another Konami game, what do people think of a VR Yu-Gi-Oh game?
I think Konami can shove it up their ass.
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So I was thinking if people are even remotely okay buying another Konami game, what do people think of a VR Yu-Gi-Oh game?
I think Konami can shove it up their ass.
Tell us how you really feel. ;D
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So I was thinking if people are even remotely okay buying another Konami game, what do people think of a VR Yu-Gi-Oh game?
I think Konami can shove it up their ass.
Tell us how you really feel. ;D
Pahaha I agree. And they wouldn't be smart enough to do anything anyway but just dreaming. I'm pretty bitter about Silent Hills.
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Hopefully Konami (and Capcom) are just going through a rough patch. I hope they can come back as strong as ever, because they have some killer IPs.
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I think I understand what you're envisioning here you want the experience just like the Yu-Gi-Oh Anime, I feel like it won't be practical for an actual card game and I'll go out on a whim and say Konami won't do that. Just all of the things that has happened with Konami recently, I just don't care about what they're doing anymore.
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So I was thinking if people are even remotely okay buying another Konami game, what do people think of a VR Yu-Gi-Oh game?
I think Konami can shove it up their ass.
This made me laugh.
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Hopefully Konami (and Capcom) are just going through a rough patch. I hope they can come back as strong as ever, because they have some killer IPs.
Capcom is solely into making video games and is actively trying IMO to get back into gamers good graces. Recent moves such as free DLC unlocked as you play Street Fighter V, talking about taking Resident Evil back to what made it great and actually releasing HD versions of the original, more popular RE games show they are trying.
Konami on the other hand is first and foremost a holding company with interests in toys, trading cards, anime, pachinko machines and health & fitness clubs in Japan.
Where Capcom sees profits and revenue from video games alone, Konami makes money in all of their various ventures. In the changing game market, Konami has diverted away from making traditional console and arcade games, opting for the more lucrative free to play phone game market. Whether that trend continues is irrelevant. Konami sees the dollar/yen signs there and have moved in that direction. Konami has also scuttled most of their console game development and let go/terminated industry luminaries like Hideo Kojima and Koji Igarashi.
Konami is done with console games. And in the slightest chance that they may decide to return, their talent is gone and the only thing you would see is derivative sequels to their franchises with no soul or HD remasters and compilations of old titles.
Put a fork in her....Konami's done.
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Pahaha I agree. And they wouldn't be smart enough to do anything anyway but just dreaming. I'm pretty bitter about Silent Hills.
Bitter doesn't begin to describe my seething, burning hatred for Konami and the cancellation of Silent Hills. And just to rub salt in the wound, they removed P.T. from the PlayStation Store.
As a fan of Konami's games and the potential for Silent Hills, I feel like that poor made fella in Goodfellas. You know, the one they all stomp on after he insults Joe Pesci in the bar? If that's not bad enough, the removal of P.T is like that one, last stomp Robert DeNiro made on the schmucks head and then said "Look what this f*cking mutt did to my shoes!"
Yeah...that's how I feel.
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A VR yu-gi-oh game would be pretty cool, actually. Though the games they've come out with so far aren't terribly interesting graphically, they do the job for folks. Makes me want to go back and watch the cartoon...
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If they were to make a Yu-Gi-Oh VR, then they really need to improve the presentation/graphics of the game; since the last few games such as Zexal Carnival and Legacy of the Duelist had mediocre graphics along with a somewhat lacking story mode. But I don't think that will happen, considering how they treat the fan of the regular card game.
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I think Konami can shove it up their ass.
Not my first choice for a VR experience.
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After what GF said about Konami, I did some Googling, and wow, Konami are worse off than I thought. I just thought it was a string of bad business decisions. But it looks as if GF is right, Konami is completely done with traditional video games. Their site is focused only arcade ticket machines for kids, and gambling machines.
...THAT SUCKS!!!
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After what GF said about Konami, I did some Googling, and wow, Konami are worse off than I thought. I just thought it was a string of bad business decisions. But it looks as if GF is right, Konami is completely done with traditional video games. Their site is focused only arcade ticket machines for kids, and gambling machines.
...THAT SUCKS!!!
It is painful for me to see this happen. As much as Nintendo in some ways, Konami had a significant impact on gaming. Contra. Castlevania. Metal Gear. Track & Field. Gradius. Silent Hill. Zone of the Enders. So many more. Thrown to the wayside.
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At least we're getting Bloodstained, and Kojima is having at least a one night stand with Sony. Konami may have the IP but the talent is still out there.
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I think I understand what you're envisioning here you want the experience just like the Yu-Gi-Oh Anime, I feel like it won't be practical for an actual card game and I'll go out on a whim and say Konami won't do that. Just all of the things that has happened with Konami recently, I just don't care about what they're doing anymore.
Yeah that is what I was envisioning. I think it would be pretty cool if you could upload your own deck and even if they use the models from old games like Duelist of the Roses, Falsebound Kingdom, and Capsule Monsters, I would be pretty satisfied. And it would be cool to face people with my own deck online without having to go all the way to a hobby shop to lose and turn around and go home hahahaha
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I'm honestly not sure how I feel about VR period. If anything I'd be interested in Sony's offering, but there are too many unanswered questions for me. How much will it be? Will I even be able to use it comfortably or will it make me nauseous and/or give me a headache? What kind of support will it have going forward - not just at launch?
I don't see myself buying one this year for sure, but maybe later on if I get good answers to some of these (especially the usability).
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I'm honestly not sure how I feel about VR period. If anything I'd be interested in Sony's offering, but there are too many unanswered questions for me. How much will it be? Will I even be able to use it comfortably or will it make me nauseous and/or give me a headache? What kind of support will it have going forward - not just at launch?
I don't see myself buying one this year for sure, but maybe later on if I get good answers to some of these (especially the usability).
All valid concerns and ones that I share. I'm particularly leery because I've experienced motion sickness just playing regular Xbox games in the past and the thought of riding a rollercoaster makes me nauseous.
My wife won (yes, won!) a Samsung Gear VR headset and I'm just waiting for it to arrive. I figure that will give me at least some indication of whether VR will make me sick or not.
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Speaking of VR.
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/oculus-rift-price-finally-confirmed/1100-6433557/
Oculus Rift just opened up for pre orders. For the low low price of $599!
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And 699€ in EU !
Let's say it's a bit high for a price considering you'll need a PC 7 times more powerful to run VR (http://venturebeat.com/2015/12/30/to-handle-vr-graphics-gaming-pcs-have-to-be-7-times-more-powerful/view-all/)...
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Speaking of VR.
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/oculus-rift-price-finally-confirmed/1100-6433557/
Oculus Rift just opened up for pre orders. For the low low price of $599!
$599 = dead in the water. Twice what everyone was expecting? On top of having to have a powerful PC rig just to run it? What a joke. This item will sell pitifully, software support will be equally as bad and it will die a quick death.
I mean really, what the hell are they thinking?
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Speaking of VR.
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/oculus-rift-price-finally-confirmed/1100-6433557/
Oculus Rift just opened up for pre orders. For the low low price of $599!
$599 = dead in the water. Twice what everyone was expecting? On top of having to have a powerful PC rig just to run it? What a joke. This item will sell pitifully, software support will be equally as bad and it will die a quick death.
I mean really, what the hell are they thinking?
Are you talking about the Rift or the PS3? *zing*
Jokes aside, it does come with an Xbox One controller (what's that $60?), EVE: Valkyrie (That's worth something, right?), and Lucky's Tale (probably not worth anything), among other things. They've already "sold" all of the allocations for March and April. I put quotes on sold because they aren't actually taking your money, you can always cancel your "order" or not pay.
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Are you talking about the Rift or the PS3? *zing*
Jokes aside, it does come with an Xbox One controller (what's that $60?), EVE: Valkyrie (That's worth something, right?), and Lucky's Tale (probably not worth anything), among other things. They've already "sold" all of the allocations for March and April. I put quotes on sold because they aren't actually taking your money, you can always cancel your "order" or not pay.
I'm sure they have already went through all preorders. You will always have the hardcore buy a new device no matter the cost. What happens then? I'm telling you now, the price is too high, especially with the cost of the PC to run it.
If PS VR follows this path, it's dead too. I don't think Sony will try to launch a peripheral for $600 because it's retail suicide. If PS VR is any more than $400, it's done. $300 is a lot to ask for a peripheral, no matter what went into it.
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Are you talking about the Rift or the PS3? *zing*
Jokes aside, it does come with an Xbox One controller (what's that $60?), EVE: Valkyrie (That's worth something, right?), and Lucky's Tale (probably not worth anything), among other things. They've already "sold" all of the allocations for March and April. I put quotes on sold because they aren't actually taking your money, you can always cancel your "order" or not pay.
I'm sure they have already went through all preorders. You will always have the hardcore buy a new device no matter the cost. What happens then? I'm telling you now, the price is too high, especially with the cost of the PC to run it.
If PS VR follows this path, it's dead too. I don't think Sony will try to launch a peripheral for $600 because it's retail suicide. If PS VR is any more than $400, it's done. $300 is a lot to ask for a peripheral, no matter what went into it.
No, they've said they are going to take preorders as long as people want them, they'll just have to push back the ship date on later orders. Last I checked current sales ship out in May.
The Galaxy Gear VR or whatever it's called, when you think about it, it more expensive than Rift or PSVR. You need the Gear VR device plus a compatible smart phone to fit in it. To my knowledge, those "compatible" phones cost nearly $700-800 either unlocked or factoring in how much your contract is going to cost you to subsidize the cost of the phone.
I don't know what the requirements are for the Rift, if someone will post that, that'd be awesome, but I have a gaming PC, I figure that's probably good enough. I'm willing to bet the Rift's "requirements" are based on playing EVE: Valkyrie, not watching porn in VR or minesweeper or netflix or whatever other really simple things people might reasonable do with it.
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No, they've said they are going to take preorders as long as people want them, they'll just have to push back the ship date on later orders. Last I checked current sales ship out in May.
The Galaxy Gear VR or whatever it's called, when you think about it, it more expensive than Rift or PSVR. You need the Gear VR device plus a compatible smart phone to fit in it. To my knowledge, those "compatible" phones cost nearly $700-800 either unlocked or factoring in how much your contract is going to cost you to subsidize the cost of the phone.
I don't know what the requirements are for the Rift, if someone will post that, that'd be awesome, but I have a gaming PC, I figure that's probably good enough. I'm willing to bet the Rift's "requirements" are based on playing EVE: Valkyrie, not watching porn in VR or minesweeper or netflix or whatever other really simple things people might reasonable do with it.
Taking preorders for as long as people want them doesn't really change anything. It's still your hardcore early adopters buying them.
System requirements for Oculus Rift:
◾Nvidia GTX 970 / AMD 290 equivalent or greater
◾Intel Core i5-4590 equivalent or greater
◾8 GB+ RAM
◾HDMI 1.3 video output
◾three USB 3.0 ports and one USB 2.0 port
◾Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (64-bit) or newer
Those are hefty requirements for a peripheral that alone costs $600 plus shipping. I don't think you can run Oculus on "lesser" hardware because those are the requirements to make it function. So regardless if you just want to watch porn or play some casual games, the hardware has to be there for the Oculus to work with it.
The Gear VR is a niche product and I don't think anyone expects any different from it. It's a $100 system. Yes, you have to have a compatible phone from the Galaxy line. I already have that and the phone performs many functions I need or want, regardless of any desire to play a VR game. I don't see the point in bringing up the cost of a phone for a peripheral, unless you want to talk about the $1200 it will cost to buy a compatible PC to play the Rift.
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No, they've said they are going to take preorders as long as people want them, they'll just have to push back the ship date on later orders. Last I checked current sales ship out in May.
The Galaxy Gear VR or whatever it's called, when you think about it, it more expensive than Rift or PSVR. You need the Gear VR device plus a compatible smart phone to fit in it. To my knowledge, those "compatible" phones cost nearly $700-800 either unlocked or factoring in how much your contract is going to cost you to subsidize the cost of the phone.
I don't know what the requirements are for the Rift, if someone will post that, that'd be awesome, but I have a gaming PC, I figure that's probably good enough. I'm willing to bet the Rift's "requirements" are based on playing EVE: Valkyrie, not watching porn in VR or minesweeper or netflix or whatever other really simple things people might reasonable do with it.
Taking preorders for as long as people want them doesn't really change anything. It's still your hardcore early adopters buying them.
System requirements for Oculus Rift:
◾Nvidia GTX 970 / AMD 290 equivalent or greater
◾Intel Core i5-4590 equivalent or greater
◾8 GB+ RAM
◾HDMI 1.3 video output
◾three USB 3.0 ports and one USB 2.0 port
◾Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (64-bit) or newer
Those are hefty requirements for a peripheral that alone costs $600 plus shipping. I don't think you can run Oculus on "lesser" hardware because those are the requirements to make it function. So regardless if you just want to watch porn or play some casual games, the hardware has to be there for the Oculus to work with it.
The Gear VR is a niche product and I don't think anyone expects any different from it. It's a $100 system. Yes, you have to have a compatible phone from the Galaxy line. I already have that and the phone performs many functions I need or want, regardless of any desire to play a VR game. I don't see the point in bringing up the cost of a phone for a peripheral, unless you want to talk about the $1200 it will cost to buy a compatible PC to play the Rift.
eh, you brought up the PC thing, I was just mentioning that if you are going talk about the need for a PC you have to factor the need for the phone. Like you said though, the Gear VR is a niche product, not built or made to be the same quality as the Oculus, and yet, it costs a lot regardless. Can't expect a higher quality product to be cheaper than that. If the Oculus had similar processing capabilities as a smartphone, would you expect it to be cheaper than a smartphone? In this case, technically it is cheaper than a smartphone. Does it have the same high usability as a smartphone? No. Therein lies that cost vs demand thing. I don't know if I am arguing, and if I am, I don't know why. I sure as hell wouldn't pay $600 for a screen to put on my face. Maybe $150... but I also have vision problems in general, so even then I'd probably pass.
I don't know what that graphics and processor actually breaks down to. 2GB Video Ram? 2.4Ghz quad core? I do know that 4 USB ports is a lot of usb ports.
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Update on the Oculus Rift minimum specs. This is what you will need to run Elite: Dangerous:
OS: Windows 7/8/10 64-bit
Processor: Intel Core i7-3770K Quad Core CPU or better / AMD FX 4350 Quad Core CPU or better
Memory: 16 GB RAM
Graphics: Nvidia GTX 980 with 4GB or better
Network: Broadband Internet Connection Hard Drive: 8 GB available space
How ridiculous.
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What it boils down to are all the components in a PC required to run the Oculus include a hefty price tag. Again, minimum requirements to run the damn thing are steep, not even taking into account what it takes to run it's "flagship title" Elite: Dangerous.
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What it boils down to are all the components in a PC required to run the Oculus include a hefty price tag. Again, minimum requirements to run the damn thing are steep, not even taking into account what it takes to run it's "flagship title" Elite: Dangerous.
I thought the flagship title was EVE: Valkyrie.
I don't know, I haven't been following Oculus, I find it hard to believe the thing costs anywhere near $600 to make when they were selling the DKs for what, $250?
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What it boils down to are all the components in a PC required to run the Oculus include a hefty price tag. Again, minimum requirements to run the damn thing are steep, not even taking into account what it takes to run it's "flagship title" Elite: Dangerous.
I thought the flagship title was EVE: Valkyrie.
I don't know, I haven't been following Oculus, I find it hard to believe the thing costs anywhere near $600 to make when they were selling the DKs for what, $250?
I think the DK2 was $350. That's a big jump up to $600. :o
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Ive stayed out of this conversation cause I wanted the VR to possibly succeed. With a $600 price tag, I will agree with whoever said "Dead in the water". I work at Gamestop part time and I get people complaining on a daily basis about $60 for a game. There is no snowballs chance in hell that Im going to be selling $600 peripheral accessories on a daily basis. Its going to be a ridiculously priced option for a limited number of games that are most likely going to be bargain bin games within weeks of release anyhow.
I really want to see how Microsoft/Sony respond to this.
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Ive stayed out of this conversation cause I wanted the VR to possibly succeed. With a $600 price tag, I will agree with whoever said "Dead in the water". I work at Gamestop part time and I get people complaining on a daily basis about $60 for a game. There is no snowballs chance in hell that Im going to be selling $600 peripheral accessories on a daily basis. Its going to be a ridiculously priced option for a limited number of games that are most likely going to be bargain bin games within weeks of release anyhow.
I really want to see how Microsoft/Sony respond to this.
I think it'll go the same way as Google Glass. Tons of people will buy it, just to have it.
I think I read an article that said when it comes to new types of media, whichever media the porn industry sides with is the one that succeeds. VHS over Beta. DVD over Laserdisc. Bluray over HDDVD. There is no competition in this "media", but if the porn industry embraces VR Porn, I think a lot more people will buy into the VR thing for that alone. Will it succeed because of this, probably not, but I do think it'll sell more units than Google did with Google Glass.
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VR failed once already, I'll be surprised if it does do better this time around.
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What it boils down to are all the components in a PC required to run the Oculus include a hefty price tag. Again, minimum requirements to run the damn thing are steep, not even taking into account what it takes to run it's "flagship title" Elite: Dangerous.
I thought the flagship title was EVE: Valkyrie.
I don't know, I haven't been following Oculus, I find it hard to believe the thing costs anywhere near $600 to make when they were selling the DKs for what, $250?
I think the DK2 was $350. That's a big jump up to $600. :o
That's what they were selling it to (mostly) developers for. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if $600 is pretty close to break-even for them just to get it out. And they'll probably have a price drop once Valve and Sony get close to release date especially if they have lower price points. I'm almost positive that Playstation VR will be less expensive as there is no way they can get any kind of mass market adoption if it costs double what the console itself does. However, I think they can get away with a higher price on PC however especially to a hardcore crowd that was probably willing to pay more than the $600 to be one of the first to own one.
Honestly, I'm a bit surprised to see so many balking at the price point. This is kind of where I assumed it would be ($500+).
Edit: Here's a tweet (https://twitter.com/PalmerLuckey/status/684809421675872256?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) saying they are selling it at cost by the founder. So take that for what it's worth, I suppose.
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$599.99 $599.99 $599.99 $599.99
RIIIDGE RACER!!!
am I the only one getting this flashback?
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With that price and performance market, this defenitely looks like its being aimed towards the high-end market. But it won't suceed with that price point especially if they want a foothold in the general market and compete with other companies.
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These prices aren't really crazy. People pay just as much for phones, I remember when HDTV's were crazy expensive and now are very cheap, 4k tv's are very expensive now. Prices will go down and the Oculus will get cheaper. It's probably more important to see what console versions like the Playstation VR are priced at and how well they do in terms of garnering mainstream appeal. There's really no reason for VR to fail, it has its uses, even if I have no real plans to get one anytime soon. The novelty is just that, a novelty. Same as it was for motion control. There will be VERY specific gamestyles that'll work for it, but I'll never use it for hours on end playing an RPG, shooter, or survival game lol
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Ive stayed out of this conversation cause I wanted the VR to possibly succeed. With a $600 price tag, I will agree with whoever said "Dead in the water". I work at Gamestop part time and I get people complaining on a daily basis about $60 for a game. There is no snowballs chance in hell that Im going to be selling $600 peripheral accessories on a daily basis. Its going to be a ridiculously priced option for a limited number of games that are most likely going to be bargain bin games within weeks of release anyhow.
I really want to see how Microsoft/Sony respond to this.
I think it'll go the same way as Google Glass. Tons of people will buy it, just to have it.
I think I read an article that said when it comes to new types of media, whichever media the porn industry sides with is the one that succeeds. VHS over Beta. DVD over Laserdisc. Bluray over HDDVD. There is no competition in this "media", but if the porn industry embraces VR Porn, I think a lot more people will buy into the VR thing for that alone. Will it succeed because of this, probably not, but I do think it'll sell more units than Google did with Google Glass.
VR porn is just something I don't really want to see. HD video let us see every razor bump and pimple. What now? You will be able to "explore" and get a birds-eye view while they are doing it doggy? I don't need hairy testicles panning around in my vision in HD. Yeah. Thanks but no thanks. :-X
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VR failed once already, I'll be surprised if it does do better this time around.
VR failed before for numerous reasons. It was prohibitively expensive for one and two, it sucked. The technology wasn't advanced enough to give you an enjoyable experience.
Since those days of N64 quality blurry graphics and nausea inducing gameplay in the arcades, technology is at a place where it's feasible for the first time. Hell, Google Cardboard is more advanced than many of those original VR games and those headsets are a couple bucks. Can't wait to get my Gear VR and take that for a spin.
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Ive stayed out of this conversation cause I wanted the VR to possibly succeed. With a $600 price tag, I will agree with whoever said "Dead in the water". I work at Gamestop part time and I get people complaining on a daily basis about $60 for a game. There is no snowballs chance in hell that Im going to be selling $600 peripheral accessories on a daily basis. Its going to be a ridiculously priced option for a limited number of games that are most likely going to be bargain bin games within weeks of release anyhow.
I really want to see how Microsoft/Sony respond to this.
I think it'll go the same way as Google Glass. Tons of people will buy it, just to have it.
I think I read an article that said when it comes to new types of media, whichever media the porn industry sides with is the one that succeeds. VHS over Beta. DVD over Laserdisc. Bluray over HDDVD. There is no competition in this "media", but if the porn industry embraces VR Porn, I think a lot more people will buy into the VR thing for that alone. Will it succeed because of this, probably not, but I do think it'll sell more units than Google did with Google Glass.
VR porn is just something I don't really want to see. HD video let us see every razor bump and pimple. What now? You will be able to "explore" and get a birds-eye view while they are doing it doggy? I don't need hairy testicles panning around in my vision in HD. Yeah. Thanks but no thanks. :-X
I think it's supposed to be POV, so if you see hairy testicles, it's because you are looking down at your own testicles... in a sense.
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Ive stayed out of this conversation cause I wanted the VR to possibly succeed. With a $600 price tag, I will agree with whoever said "Dead in the water". I work at Gamestop part time and I get people complaining on a daily basis about $60 for a game. There is no snowballs chance in hell that Im going to be selling $600 peripheral accessories on a daily basis. Its going to be a ridiculously priced option for a limited number of games that are most likely going to be bargain bin games within weeks of release anyhow.
I really want to see how Microsoft/Sony respond to this.
I think it'll go the same way as Google Glass. Tons of people will buy it, just to have it.
I think I read an article that said when it comes to new types of media, whichever media the porn industry sides with is the one that succeeds. VHS over Beta. DVD over Laserdisc. Bluray over HDDVD. There is no competition in this "media", but if the porn industry embraces VR Porn, I think a lot more people will buy into the VR thing for that alone. Will it succeed because of this, probably not, but I do think it'll sell more units than Google did with Google Glass.
VR porn is just something I don't really want to see. HD video let us see every razor bump and pimple. What now? You will be able to "explore" and get a birds-eye view while they are doing it doggy? I don't need hairy testicles panning around in my vision in HD. Yeah. Thanks but no thanks. :-X
I think it's supposed to be POV, so if you see hairy testicles, it's because you are looking down at your own testicles... in a sense.
I was thinking more along the lines of you being able to move around the "set" of a scene. Images of the anal scene from Zack & Miri Make a Porno immediately sprung to mind. I for one, don't want to be frosted like a cake. :o
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Ive stayed out of this conversation cause I wanted the VR to possibly succeed. With a $600 price tag, I will agree with whoever said "Dead in the water". I work at Gamestop part time and I get people complaining on a daily basis about $60 for a game. There is no snowballs chance in hell that Im going to be selling $600 peripheral accessories on a daily basis. Its going to be a ridiculously priced option for a limited number of games that are most likely going to be bargain bin games within weeks of release anyhow.
I really want to see how Microsoft/Sony respond to this.
I think it'll go the same way as Google Glass. Tons of people will buy it, just to have it.
I think I read an article that said when it comes to new types of media, whichever media the porn industry sides with is the one that succeeds. VHS over Beta. DVD over Laserdisc. Bluray over HDDVD. There is no competition in this "media", but if the porn industry embraces VR Porn, I think a lot more people will buy into the VR thing for that alone. Will it succeed because of this, probably not, but I do think it'll sell more units than Google did with Google Glass.
VR porn is just something I don't really want to see. HD video let us see every razor bump and pimple. What now? You will be able to "explore" and get a birds-eye view while they are doing it doggy? I don't need hairy testicles panning around in my vision in HD. Yeah. Thanks but no thanks. :-X
I think it's supposed to be POV, so if you see hairy testicles, it's because you are looking down at your own testicles... in a sense.
I was thinking more along the lines of you being able to move around the "set" of a scene. Images of the anal scene from Zack & Miri Make a Porno immediately sprung to mind. I for one, don't want to be frosted like a cake. :o
Barf.
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VR failed once already, I'll be surprised if it does do better this time around.
VR failed before for numerous reasons. It was prohibitively expensive for one and two, it sucked. The technology wasn't advanced enough to give you an enjoyable experience.
Since those days of N64 quality blurry graphics and nausea inducing gameplay in the arcades, technology is at a place where it's feasible for the first time. Hell, Google Cardboard is more advanced than many of those original VR games and those headsets are a couple bucks. Can't wait to get my Gear VR and take that for a spin.
If it was a hit, it would have continued to grow and evolve into better graphics and technology, like those blurry graphics on the N64 you talked about; I would think. Atari 2600 looked terrible, but it was fun, which sold systems and games and drove the technology to evolve.
It's a cool idea, but for the casual person, it's all too bulky, cumbersome, and a pain in the butt to even deal with when you can just play a game on your console or phone instead.
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If it was a hit, it would have continued to grow and evolve into better graphics and technology, like those blurry graphics on the N64 you talked about; I would think. Atari 2600 looked terrible, but it was fun, which sold systems and games and drove the technology to evolve.
It's a cool idea, but for the casual person, it's all too bulky, cumbersome, and a pain in the butt to even deal with when you can just play a game on your console or phone instead.
It was never a hit. The only VR you could get yourself into was at large arcades. Not only were the games crap, it cost several dollars for one play. People thought stuff like Max Headroom, Lawnmower Man and Hackers were cool with their VR and it seemed a natural progression for gaming. As I already stated, home VR wasn't possible and the technology of the day was limited, limiting VR's appeal. Not to mention, the price of admission.
That being said, VR has come a long way. Google Cardboard can provide an entertaining experience with just your cellphone, a cardboard box, two cheap lenses and a magnet. Gear VR provides a much improved experience for $100. It's very premature to write-off VR and say it will never go anywhere when it's just finding it's legs. I fully believe that while the tech in the Oculus is cool, the cost of admission will ensure it never gains mainstream acceptance. We don't know what Sony or HTC are planning to charge, so we should all sit back, relax and see what they are planning before coming to premature conclusions.
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FWIW, I will (mostly) gladly pay $600 for Oculus if it ends up being the superior product. I'm just waiting to see how it shakes out with the Vive and Playstation VR.
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FWIW, I will (mostly) gladly pay $600 for Oculus if it ends up being the superior product. I'm just waiting to see how it shakes out with the Vive and Playstation VR.
Same, I'm almost tempted right now to Pre-order it. I have pretty capable computer to handle it so I dont see that as an issue.
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I received my Gear VR yesterday and played around with it for an hour or two. For what it is and for $100, I am fairly impressed. Naturally, when you have what basically amounts to magnifying glasses right in front of a AMOLED phone screen, you are going to see the pixels. With that being said, sitting on a virtual couch, looking around a beautiful virtual home and watching Netflix on "the big screen" was pretty fun. I also downloaded an underwater simulation with sharks, turtles, etc.
With that being said, would I have bothered with this if I didn't already own a compatible phone? No. Would I have actually bought this if my wife hadn't won it from Samsung? Possibly. Will I continue to tinker and enjoy it? Definitely.
The problem with VR is the cost of entry, at least so far. Gear VR is a cool, but niche product that only users of Samsung's latest flagship phones can use. Oculus Rift is a niche product that only owners of a pretty potent, powerful PC can use.
I know that they claim they are selling it "around cost", but when the dev kits cost $350, I can't see how the retail unit would be $600+. The storage box can't cost all that much. Even tacking on $60 for an Xbox controller only brings it up to $410. And the two games are worth what, about $40 for the pair? $60 tops? That makes it $470. And please note, if you look up the costs of buying development kits for just about any hardware platform, they are always outrageously priced compared to a retail model.
With all that being said, I believe VR can and will be a viable platform. My hope is that PlayStation VR comes in around $300-$350 for the standalone kit. I know it has that extra CPU box, but without needing a camera, controllers, bundled game, etc. it should be cheaper. I hope anyway.
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At the $600 price tag for the Oculus Rift I was an instant pass for right now. The only reason I was semi interested in the Rift was they where talking about maybe making it usable on the Xbox One at some point. (I guess they where having talks with microsoft about it.)
But this is only a maybe, so ATM my interest in the Rift is zero.
I'm more interested in Sony's VR because I'm a console gamer.
While we don't know what Sony's price is going to be (i'm sure they will try and beat the Oculus Rift) if Sony has a Price tag over $400 ya... I might wait. They already claim it will cost about the same price as a PS4 so I'm guessing around $400.
I think the whole VR thing is cool, but in a gimmicky way. It would be fun to mess around with it and see your friends mess with it. But it would get old quick in time and probably left of the shelf more then used.
I think the only way I would race out and buy one is if it bombs so bad and is discontinued quick and because not many where made it might become a rare collectors item like the Power Glove or Virtual Boy. :P
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At the $600 price tag for the Oculus Rift I was an instant pass for right now. The only reason I was semi interested in the Rift was they where talking about maybe making it usable on the Xbox One at some point. (I guess they where having talks with microsoft about it.)
But this is only a maybe, so ATM my interest in the Rift is zero.
I'm more interested in Sony's VR because I'm a console gamer.
While we don't know what Sony's price is going to be (i'm sure they will try and beat the Oculus Rift) if Sony has a Price tag over $400 ya... I might wait. They already claim it will cost about the same price as a PS4 so I'm guessing around $400.
I think the whole VR thing is cool, but in a gimmicky way. It would be fun to mess around with it and see your friends mess with it. But it would get old quick in time and probably left of the shelf more then used.
I think the only way I would race out and buy one is if it bombs so bad and is discontinued quick and because not many where made it might become a rare collectors item like the Power Glove or Virtual Boy. :P
I'm hoping for $350 to $400 max. If all you need is the VR itself because you already have the camera, it should save a bit and I can't see Sony forcing people who already own the camera to buy another one.
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Take it with a grain of salt but
http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/science-technology/632733/Sony-PS4-PlayStation-VR-Headset-UK-Price-Release-Date
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2016/01/07/playstation-vr-listed-for-800-on-amazon-canada-pre-order-page/
They are claiming its an error, but we gotta wait and see
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600 is nutz. When the dev kits were going for 200-250 I figured that it might be 400 or something, which is do-able, but 6 bills?
I'm waiting for the Valve/HTC Vive. That's going to blow everything out of the water.
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600 is nutz. When the dev kits were going for 200-250 I figured that it might be 400 or something, which is do-able, but 6 bills?
I'm waiting for the Valve/HTC Vive. That's going to blow everything out of the water.
Uhmm...if you think Oculus was high, it's rumored that the Vive is going to cost upwards of $800 because of the bundled controllers, etc. :-\ If PlayStation VR is much more than $400, I'm not buying.
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Take it with a grain of salt but
http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/science-technology/632733/Sony-PS4-PlayStation-VR-Headset-UK-Price-Release-Date
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2016/01/07/playstation-vr-listed-for-800-on-amazon-canada-pre-order-page/
They are claiming its an error, but we gotta wait and see
Annnnnd.......Sony can shove it straight up their tailpipe.
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Take it with a grain of salt but
http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/science-technology/632733/Sony-PS4-PlayStation-VR-Headset-UK-Price-Release-Date
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2016/01/07/playstation-vr-listed-for-800-on-amazon-canada-pre-order-page/
They are claiming its an error, but we gotta wait and see
That's most likely
Annnnnd.......Sony can shove it straight up their tailpipe.
most likely just a placeholder for when they actually release it. I remember seeing Wii U Launch games having a $100 price before the price was set to $60 on Amazon
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Take it with a grain of salt but
http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/science-technology/632733/Sony-PS4-PlayStation-VR-Headset-UK-Price-Release-Date
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2016/01/07/playstation-vr-listed-for-800-on-amazon-canada-pre-order-page/
They are claiming its an error, but we gotta wait and see
That's most likely
Annnnnd.......Sony can shove it straight up their tailpipe.
most likely just a placeholder for when they actually release it. I remember seeing Wii U Launch games having a $100 price before the price was set to $60 on Amazon
I really hope that is the case.
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http://playstationcollecting.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=61&threadid=159673
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Geez, more expensive than the console lol Maybe in like 5 or 10 years I'll consider looking at one of these VR headsets when they are much cheaper.
Also the cost of PSVR is more than just 400 bucks. It requires the PS Camera which is 60 bucks and will basically need the move controller, so it's more like 500 bucks.
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Geez, more expensive than the console lol Maybe in like 5 or 10 years I'll consider looking at one of these VR headsets when they are much cheaper.
Also the cost of PSVR is more than just 400 bucks. It requires the PS Camera which is 60 bucks and will basically need the move controller, so it's more like 500 bucks.
The Camera is $50 everywhere I look and the move controllers are not required in any way. That's what the light bar on the back of the DualShock 4 is for.
I agree the price is high for VR, but when you consider all of the hardware involved they really couldn't make it any cheaper. It's also cheaper by far than the HTC and Oculus options out there by itself, not to mention the PC components required for those systems to operate. The PS4 is less than half the price of a PC equipped to run VR. :o
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Geez, more expensive than the console lol Maybe in like 5 or 10 years I'll consider looking at one of these VR headsets when they are much cheaper.
Also the cost of PSVR is more than just 400 bucks. It requires the PS Camera which is 60 bucks and will basically need the move controller, so it's more like 500 bucks.
The Camera is $50 everywhere I look and the move controllers are not required in any way. That's what the light bar on the back of the DualShock 4 is for.
I agree the price is high for VR, but when you consider all of the hardware involved they really couldn't make it any cheaper. It's also cheaper by far than the HTC and Oculus options out there by itself, not to mention the PC components required for those systems to operate. The PS4 is less than half the price of a PC equipped to run VR. :o
Playstation VR:
Playstation 4: $350
Playstation Camera: $60
Playstation VR: $400
Total New Cost: $810
Oculus Rift:
Cheapest pre-built computer (ASUS): $950
Oculus Rift: $600
Total New Cost: $1550
HTC VIVE:
Cheapest pre-built vive compatible computer: Cant find information but I am assuming it will be slightly cheaper than the ASUS due to lower required parameters.
HTC VIVE: $800
Total New Cost: $1300-1700 (estimated cost of pc between $500-900)
Please feel free to tell me if I got any price information wrong and to update me with the price of the cheapest pre-built (not self-built) pc for the VIVE
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PlayStation VR: $400
Occulus Rift: $600
HTC Vive: $800
Xbox One flopping: Priceless :P
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Geez, more expensive than the console lol Maybe in like 5 or 10 years I'll consider looking at one of these VR headsets when they are much cheaper.
Also the cost of PSVR is more than just 400 bucks. It requires the PS Camera which is 60 bucks and will basically need the move controller, so it's more like 500 bucks.
The Camera is $50 everywhere I look and the move controllers are not required in any way. That's what the light bar on the back of the DualShock 4 is for.
I agree the price is high for VR, but when you consider all of the hardware involved they really couldn't make it any cheaper. It's also cheaper by far than the HTC and Oculus options out there by itself, not to mention the PC components required for those systems to operate. The PS4 is less than half the price of a PC equipped to run VR. :o
The move controller isn't required, but said to be used in a number of games, so if someone wants the full experience, they are going to need it anyways. And sure it's cheaper than most of the other hardware out there, but I want it far cheaper than what it is because I see it as just a novelty and 400 bucks isn't novelty pricing. So I'll wait for the tech to get cheaper, which it will, and probably see if it's worth grabbing towards the end of the PS4's run.
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well I broke and put a pre-order for the Playstation VR, mainly because I'm curious. I still don't see me using this all the time, but might be a fun time with friends messing around with this and seeing peoples reactions.
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well I broke and put a pre-order for the Playstation VR, mainly because I'm curious. I still don't see me using this all the time, but might be a fun time with friends messing around with this and seeing peoples reactions.
The only reason I have not pre-ordered it yet is because I cannot find a version that comes with only the PSVR and a game. I don't know about you but I do not feel like shelling out an extra hundred bucks for something I already have (playstation move).
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well I broke and put a pre-order for the Playstation VR, mainly because I'm curious. I still don't see me using this all the time, but might be a fun time with friends messing around with this and seeing peoples reactions.
The only reason I have not pre-ordered it yet is because I cannot find a version that comes with only the PSVR and a game. I don't know about you but I do not feel like shelling out an extra hundred bucks for something I already have (playstation move).
Really? You are that cheap??? LOL...just kidding! :P I'm not surprised. This seems to be like new console launches where they try to bundle in two crappy games as the only way to get the new system. I remember waiting on the original Xbox because all the retailers were trying to force Fuzion Frenzy and some other junk down my throat just to get a system.